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/g/ has fallen for the 1080 meme.. 980ti (reference) >28nm
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/g/ has fallen for the 1080 meme..

980ti (reference)
>28nm
>2,048 shaders
>5.2 billion transistors

1080 (founders)
>16nm
>2560 shaders
>7.2 billion transistors

Double-generational leap in production, not even 50% more transistors/shaders. No Async shaders. No HBM.

(Pic related)
2x perf in "VR" vs. an unoptimized 'rendering' not gayming card
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>relative vr gaming performance
>my fucking sides
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>>54539471
Clearly you don't understand how GPUs work.
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>>54539507
What's to understand?
They exaggerated their cards performance with misleading graphs
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>>54539507
>>54539493
*AMDs*
*shills*
*poos*
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>>54539471
>no Async shaders

Citation needed

Shaders are more efficient in 1080.

meanwhile in AMDrones

Wait for Vega,Wait for Polaris,Wait for Zen,Wait for bulldozer,Wait for Phenom, wait for 8core cpus, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

"We got it right this time" "just wait for..."

fucking joke and disappointment of entire industry. Rolling with Nvidia as usual, although I will get 1080 Ti or equivalent.
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>>54539775
This.
Coming from a 660TI I think I'll just grab a partner 1080. I don't think I can wait for a 1080TI.
Looking at AMD, they can't even get driver updates, let alone cool new features like Ansel (which I'm totally excited about).
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Nvidia stock surged 15% in a few days gg with the hype /g/, the buzz is real

Nvidia has more to lose than to gain, bubble incoming

Polaris and Vega bowling balls for a strike
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>>54539865
>NVIDIA is successful so that means they're going to fail
>just wait for it guys
>AMD answer for the market is to just wait
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>>54539893

>market unaware of nvidia proprietary practices
>lies but it's all relative
>deep learning privacy
>google fb car datacenter hype
>owning both stocks and hedging for the underdog just for the lulz

Ppl forget war is entertainment
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I'm just waiting until AMD fucks up this year too.
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Should AMD become the new open justified tech Apple of the next decade, this board is going to be fun
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>>54539775
AMDfags stay one generation behind waiting for new features.

This is why NVidia will always have the most powerful hardware. They deliver.
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As Moore's law end, we're looking at a paradigm shift hence the bubble risk, fabs and minion outlets are churning it out
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>>54540087
>most powerful hardware
>still no multi-gpu
>still no 295x2 competitor
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>>54540148
>>still no multi-gpu
>>still no 295x2 competitor
Because they're completely worthless.
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>>54540148
>multi gpu is good

nah dawg
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>>54540148
It's like AMD invented the dual-core processor 4 years ago, and nVidia is still churning out faster and faster Pentium 4s instead

The reckoning is coming.
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>>54539556
What you're doing is essentially comparing the clock speeds on CPUs from different microarchitecture families.

GPUs are basically processors that are made to do a special few tasks very very well. It's highly ponderable that they could nearly double a GPU's performance at a task relative to old models that weren't designed to perform that task.

We have to wait for the benchmarks to find out.
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>>54539556
True
>>54539775
You can expect 5% more efficient shaders. At the best 10%, not more. This efficiency comes from the architectural changes but not from the die shrink.

Doing some math based on the picture:
980 = 2,6 points of performance
1080 = 4,4 points of performance
So we can expect 1,7 times more performance.

Efficiency:
980 = 165W
1080 = 180W
1,1 times more power draw, that means 1,54 more power efficiency considering that it is 1,7 times faster.

Shaders:
980 = 2560 CUDA cores, 1607MHz
1080 = 2048 CUDA cores, 1126MHz

So the 1080 has 1,25 times more CUDA cores and 1,43 times higher frequency. That means that the 1080 should have 1,79 times higher performance over 980. If to take the architectural efficiency increase in account then it should be over 1,79. If the architecture improved 5%, it should be around 1,88 times faster.

But yeah, look back to the image and you can see that NVidia shows that it is 1,7 times faster. 1,7 is less than the expected 1,88.

The 1080 might be disappointing, I think it has some flaws and bottlenecks. One of those bottlenecks must be the GDDR5X memory. No HBM means bad news.

Meanwhile AMD has smaller dies and GDDR5. Those GPU-s will be cheaper to produce. I think that AMD made a good move with the shader performance and memory bandwidth configuration. They didn't push too far and their cards seem to be more balanced. They also launch Vega in october with HBM2 for the richer gamers.
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Lets see if AMD will have anything to counter this
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If all you people seriously believe the shit nvidia throws at you then holy shit. I'm not defending AMD here, but believing that a 1080 will be faster than 2x980? Bullshit. It may not even be as fast.

That graph shows the 1080 performing in VR with the simultaneous multiprojection, which will probably be available on Maxwell as well, which will increase the performance in a similar way.
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so how much will this thing cost and when can we expect third party versions of it?
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>>54539471
Yet in DX12 and Vulkan/Mantle games it will barely be better than 290x 8gb OC

KEK thats a 3 year old car
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>>54540412
/thread
10/10 pasta (if not pasta, is now pasta)
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>>54540474
>AMDrones grasping at straws

Where's your high end card this generation buddy?

Oh right, you only get mainstream shit
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>>54539969
>proprietary practices

Its like you think people care about that in the real world. lol
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>>54540636
it's actually other way around

after 1080 paper launch we've seen 5 anti AMD articles/rumors spread everywhere based on pure speculation from some forum posts/nobody knows who.
Meanwhile any negative rumor supported by known facts and numbers about nvidia is shush-shush.
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>>54540884
>it's actually other way around
This

And i own a 770 4GB its not exactly a powerhouse been based off a 5 year old chip but it does alrite for itself
>>54540636
Fury X obviously
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>>54539893
>>54539775
>AMD answer for the market is to just wait
Yeah like you still wait for Pascuck. Enjoy the 700$ price and general unavailability for the next half year.
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>>54540636
I dont need your fucking 700$ GPUs. I want to spend less than 300 since newest games are shit and i barely play them.
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>>54540636
What is Vega?
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>>54540899
>Fury X obviously
I said THIS generation not last generation
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>>54541061
A card that won't be released until near the end of this year.
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>>54540988
>600$ price tag for a card that beats the 980ti at almost half the power draw is an unreasonable price

Enjoy your cheap mainstream Polaris cards so you can boast to your friends about buying a new card with last years midrange performance
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>>54541146
Not waiting for Vega
Instead buying a card that was promised to have 16GB of HBM but is actually just a grossly overclocked card with 3 point of relative VR gaming performance
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>>54540412
what is the function of their curve?
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>>54541193
>just wait Amd will be better next year!
I've heard this before
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>>54541175
600$ is MSRP. It will be sold for 700$ like founders edition.
>so you can boast to your friends about buying a new card
Thats what nvidikeks usually do though. Nice projection.
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>>54541236
Why are you even bringing up the founders edition? Only retards will pay 100$ extra for a reference card.

>Thats what nvidikeks usually do though. Nice projection.

No, what Nvidia owners do, is buy the fastest single gpu you can have at that moment while AMDrones are still stuck with outdated performance from last year
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>>54541338
>AMDrones are still stuck with outdated performance from last year
That is going to be the case for almost an entire year, until Vega hits. How is AMD expecting to survive?
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>>54541139
>4092 CU's
>Last Generation
Yeah OK buddy 'last generation'
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nvidia has a stanglehold on graphics cards and it's best to just ignore all the rebranding and hype.

buy only midrange cards, 4k won't be relevant for years and vr is stillborn.
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>>54541440
/thread
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>>54541440
>nvidia has a stanglehold on graphics cards
Only on desktops and servers of which Desktops are a shrinking market

Everything is moving towards more what AMD are doing

>Consoles
>Mobiles
>AIO's
>Laptop
Low watt high power in a small package.

Something Nvidia cannot into
>tegra
LERL ok
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When you cut down size from 28nm to 16nm, you're looking at not a 12/28 drop, but a 16*16/28*28 relative size. And that equates to resistance.

That's 0.184 if you didn't know.
So going by raw size; you could have hit up to a 5x energy efficiency increase.

Now, that's a fairly out-there assumptuous proposition.
Point is that however much of the power goes into the cores; it could've improved by up to 5x. 28nm to 16nm is a big leap.

An overall halving of energy usage is really really believable when it comes to such big changes in transistor size.
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>>54541412
It is last generation because it still gets shit on by the 980ti which is last generations top card
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>>54540425
>that OC just through the roof
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>>54541475
980Ti is literally just a 780TI with more memory and cores slapped on it with a Die Shrink

Its hardly new tech and runs DX12/Vulkan like CRAP

Hence why they rushed the 1080 to market
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>>54540412
Well explained
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>>54541461
>Desktops are a shrinking market
Except for PC gaming, the only area where you need a GPU.

>Consoles
That's a declining market, and there isn't much profit in it for those who make the hardware, the money is made on the expensive games. But yes, it's AMDs market
>Mobiles
Qualcomm, samsung, apple, huawei's market.
>AIO's
>Laptop
Intels market.
There's a reason AMD is only used in the lowest end, because their power efficiency and performance is terrible compared to intels offers.
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>>54541488
>980Ti is literally just a 780TI with more memory and cores slapped on it with a Die Shrink
No it isn't, Maxwell is a completely different architecture you fool
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>>54541530
>that graph
Damn I didn't think the console market was sinking like that. Good on Sony for actually selling an increasing amount of playstations
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>>54541338
>Why are you even bringing up the founders edition? Only retards will pay 100$ extra for a reference card.
just like every nvidiots
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>>54541396
>>54541338
>No, what Nvidia owners do, is buy the fastest single gpu you can have at that moment
Not everyone needs to play newest CoD on ULTRA settings.
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>>54541530
Intel officially announced they will stop producing CPUs in 5 years.
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>>54541581
Yeah they just did what people actually want. A as powerful console as possible for a lower price than the xbone, Without the junk gimmicks of kinnect, wii u, etc.
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>>54541530
>the only area where you need a GPU
Forgetting 4K HEVC video decoding, and any other kind of video decoding. I know people who are having trouble decoding 4K on newer Intel APUs.
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>everyone buys the 1080
>wait 2 more months
>Polaris pushed out
>get more FPS than their gayvidia card
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>>54541645
Most of people wont buy 1080 m8. They're just like fanatics need high end cards to meme on 4chan.
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>>54541581

It's not sinking really. It's Nintendo and MS tanking hardcore.
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>>54541622

The newest cod actually runs amazing on two 8GB 290x. I just turned off sub surface scattering or whatever that was that makes faces look better or some shit and I get usually mid 100s for frames at 1440p 144hz much higher than a 980ti even.
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A billion trillion years in gimp
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>>54541645
>>54541657

true. Gaymers will wait for the poo-card

People who do actual 3d card work are waiting for the 1080-Ti or titan though. First generation pascal is basically just a cheaper 980 Ti.
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>>54541688
Titans are slower than 1080/ti
Look at 980ti vs titan x. Titan just has more memory but overclocks less and is overall slower.
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>>54541679

AHAHAHAHA. 10/10. Me and all my friends were watching the stream laughing WTFing at that graph. Shit comparing "Relative gaming performance" to power to try to make it look like some new gaming revolution. Even my NVIDIA fanboys had a good laugh at how stupid that shit was. I'm saving your shit because in 10 years we can all look back and remember some newfag oldfag shit.
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>>54541641
>Forgetting 4K HEVC video decoding, and any other kind of video decoding.

Any decent CPU can do that.
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>>54541688
You just prove my point, gaymer friend. I rarely play new games, mostly emulate PS2 and other consoles. I need a good mid tier card mostly for high quality video playback.
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>>54541704

Titans are always slower than Ti.

But have more CUDA, vram, and TMU units. These are vital for non-gaymers.
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>>54541740
Who cares about that. FPS is all that matter. Graphics cards are only made for games. Unless you game on one, you don't need high-end graphics for video rendering as you're just some poorfag who probably can't edit for shit. Professionals use Quadro or FirePro, and I'm pretty sure nobody around is a professional.
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>>54541770
>FPS is all that matter.

Kill yourself.
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>>54539471
7 what?
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>>54541785
"I'm too poor for a video card that can push at least 60FPS: The Post."
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how much can one expect the price of last gen cards to drop after the release of the 1080?
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>>54539471
980 =/= 980ti fucktard.
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>>54539493
"2x VR performance" is based on single benchmark of a game that's not even released yet.
It's complete bullshit.
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>>54541608
Nvidia reference cards come with a reference cooler.
Like an Nvidia designed one with all the best bells and whistles and vapour chamber.
Maybe some people like that and want to spend $100 extra on it.
Not me but they're not forcing you to get the founders edition are they?
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>>54541715
Maybe in the +$500 range but I'm talking about average people.
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>>54541832
It says relative performance.
Also it's a launch marketing event. It's not like Nvidia doesn't have a history of fudging numbers either do they?
Oh right.
Just wait for benchmarks like every other sane non-retarded fanboy for either side before poking holes in imaginary charts with imaginary scales made for media photo opportunities.
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>>54541793

I've never been impressed with nvidia generational leaps in gaying.

The 780 Ti felt exactly like a 980 Ti. But the Titan X actually helped in autocad.
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>>54541715
Anyway it's much cheaper to buy a ~$100 GPU to decode it.
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>>54541863
>28nm flagship feels like 28nm flagship
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>>54541838
>they been called reference edition since before 1080/1070
>1080/1070 announce
>early access founder edition
>$100 more
they trying to scam people to buy the card with "inferior" cooler design by raise the price and calling it founder edition. those uninformed buyers will fall for it.
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>>54541852
They say which game it is on their website.
Doesn't even have a release date yet.
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>>54541896
The founders edition is literally the only reference cards they're going to make looks like.
The rest are going to be 3rd party cooling solutions.
I don't think you understand how GPUs are sold.
>early access founder edition
It's just a fancy name for reference card with vapour chamber cooler.
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>>54541912
It's still just a useless metric without any actual detail.
Relative performance may as well be the number of donkeys it takes to pull each card.
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>>54541896
Nvidia reference coolers are pretty much the best cooling solutions available this isn't even debatable.
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>>54541934
i fixed the graph

>>54541944
>see titan x
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>>54539471
That chart is so purposefully misleading...
>no real numbers, just relative performance, compared to what?
>maybe compared against the gtx 960 except for the fact that the gtx 960 isnt at y = 1, it is not the baseline
>Gtx 1080 label appears above the dot, instead of to the right as the rest do, this makes it seem the gtx 980 uses less power than the gtx 1080 when it does in fact use 20 W less.
>not to talk about tdp, which nvidia has been caught lying time and time again with fake values
>also 2x performance in that chart, when in real benchmarks it is only 25% faster than the previous cards
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>>54541961
>this makes it seem the gtx 980 uses less power than the gtx 1080 when it does in fact use 20 W less.
Sorry got this backwards, i meant that the gtx 980 uses 20W less than the 1080, but the label of the gtx 980 makes it look like it consumes even more
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>>54541944
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>>54541955
>titan x
If they ship it with the same titan x cooler it would have so much headroom it would be laughable considering how much lower the tdp is.

Also the founders editions are out early because they're fucking reference cards. Go call your 3rd party board partners if they're 2 slow to release new cards especially when they're literally going to be half the TDP and only use one 8 pin connector.
I would literally just saw off a 980ti cooler and stick it on top of a 1080 and charge full price.
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>>54541985
>he doesn't believe in the kami-sama called vapour chamber
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>>54539471
I'm coming from a 570, so, a 1080 is going to blow my mind.

Why the fuck would I care about benchmarks compared to a 980?

Why would anyone care? If you have a 980, why are you even looking to upgrade this generation? Get a grip you crazies.
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>>54541678
>sub surface scattering or whatever that was

You don't know what subsurface scattering is and you're talking about graphics cards like you know anything.

Please stop.
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>>54542023
>I'm coming from a 570, so, a 1080 is going to blow my mind.

Who invited this poorfag to this discussion?

I'm not even referencing him directly because I don't want to catch his poor disease.
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>>54539775
They have no hardware async. Its all software with the regular cores being the carrier to the "performance".
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>>54542031

I only know what I know. I don't play many new games. I'm more of a Quake 3 freezerail, CSS, CSGO player. Twitch skill based stuff which don't really use gpu power at all. I'm not a fan of single player games unless its late 90s turn based stuff. I like to play GTA5 and COD:BO3 every week or so though. The new COD was the first time I ever came into sub surface scattering options but its the first time I've played COD since 2 minus playing with non-pc friends on XBOX 360 together.
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>>54540412
Use a decimal, faggot. Those commas are confusing.
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>>54540425
Nothing until Vega.
They have already stated that.
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>http://videocardz.com/59932/amd-launches-radeon-m400-series

>retards have fallen for the AMD meme once again

Retards stay retards
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>>54539775
Pascal is still using compute pre-emption m8.

http://images.nvidia.com/content/pdf/tesla/whitepaper/pascal-architecture-whitepaper.pdf
Go to page 9.

They have some new stuff like 49-bit virtual addressing that'll put it ahead of Maxwell, but it's still going to fall short to even the 290x when it comes to Async.
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>>54540173
most retarded thing I've read so far

educate urself
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>>54540446
nobody is believing that, except the VR performance that might be true
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>>54541863
>780 Ti felt exactly like a 980 Ti
wat
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>>54539471
The VR performance increase is pretty substantial because of the new tech.

Non-VR performance is about 20% more than a 980ti according to the Doom benchmarks and it also checks out if you do the math.
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>>54539828
>they can't even get driver updates
pic related. AMD released day1 DOOM drivers.

>>let alone cool new features like Ansel
>muh le gaywerks feature (tm) xDDD

>>54539893
>>54539775
>A new card a years keeps the goyim in fear
Except your precious Novideo releases cards every 9 months. How do you greentards ever feel satisfied or sane, knowing you're getting cucked, even if you buy a card a week or two after its release? Do you idiots buy old cards and just cross your fingers Nvidia doesn't gimp the drivers that year?
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>>54544308
Oh wow one game, great work there hoss.
Ansel looks awesome by the way. Not surprised AMDrone is acting jelly. When has AMD ever come out with innovative features?
You mean I never have to wait to have the latest performance increase? How does it feel to have to wait years for a rebrand, poorfag?
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>>54540425
>970 slowest
kek
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>>54541934
You are literally retarded.

It's relative because all 980 fps results are mapped to 1 and the 1080 results are then modified to that scale.

So let's say in Witcher the 980 is producing 15fps, that would mean the 1080 is at about 25fps.

You stupid son of a bitch.
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>>54544481
>When has AMD ever come out with innovative features?
Not knowing about Mantle. Not knowing how it forced Microshill and Khronos to develop finally proper modern 3D-APIs.
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>>54544481
>When has AMD ever come out with innovative features?
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If these AotS benchmarks are canon, then my non-X Fury isn't super far behind a 1080 when it comes to DX12 performance, which isn't bad for a $400 card

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-dx12-benchmarks/

I guess now I have to hope that DX12 actually has a future, since being tied to Windows 10 might do the same thing Windows Vista did to DX10, at least Vulkan is a likely fallback since it's OS independent
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>>54544627
No, you dumb shit, he was arguing about the ambiguity of the word "performance". There are probably hundreds if not thousands of metrics we could use to measure the "performance" of a GPU, hence why the graph is worthless.

For all we know it could be talking about how little friction is experienced by the reference card's cooling fan.
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Reminder that the 1080 is a stupid purchase when the 1070 delivers similar performance at $200 less.
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>>54546071
Source?
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>>54546145
speculation,
used 980 ti's however are selling for at $400 now.
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>>54546145
Nvidia. We don't know shit until we get benchmarks that aren't tampered with.
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>>54541796
980ti's are already in the low $400 range now.
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>>54546071
Lol polaris 10 will deliver all you need for 200 less than 1070
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>>54540412
What part of the render pipepline is bottle necked by memory bandwidth?
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ITT speculation and meme throwing. Wait for the actual cards to come out and then we'll talk.
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>>54546450
That's a fucking trip

I'd rather have that than a 1070. Too bad I'm waiting for at least a 150% performance gain over my 290x. I think I'll be waiting for another year or more
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>>54539471
Oh look another buttflustered AMDrone assblasted because they won't get anything other than 'mainstream' cards for the majority of this year while Nvidia owners will be rolling in pussy with their 1080's and 1070's

>but muh vega

Who gives a shit, by that time 1080ti will be out to shit all over it.
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>>54547296
>390x performance is all you need
If you game at pleb resolutions and settings yeah
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>>54549413
>Rolling in pussy over a graphics card
Actually, its the complete opposite.
What woman REALLY wants to hear about how some geek just spent $700 on his brand new graphics card so he can play games better?
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>>54549517
Not even the 1080 will deliver UHD at 60fps, fuck off. The other poster also needs to fuck off, side mentality is the worst shit.
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>>54549571
Holy shit did you actualy take that seriously? Are you an autist?
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>>54549580
>Not even the 1080 will deliver UHD at 60fps
It might deliver 1440p at 100 fps+ though, which is a fuckton better than what plebshit like the 390x offers
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>>54549586
No I am not, or, I've never been diagnosed with autism/aspergers at the very least. I don't think I fill enough of the quotas to be diagnosed with it.
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>>54549612
Did you actualy think I was being serious though when I said buying a high end graphics card would mean I would be rolling in pussy? Are you a woman?
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>>54549608
It won't go to 120fps judging by how the 980Ti performs. I mean there will be some games that get there, but it won't be for the majority of them.
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>>54539471
>implying the 1080 was released as a replacement for the 980 ti and not the 980

Spotter the imbecile
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>>54549640
>but it won't be for the majority of them.
You can stop now
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>>54540412
This guy literally just copied everything adoredtv said in his latest video.
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>>54549670
Stop what nigga? Look at http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1496 and tell me the 1080 will get at least 120fps on all of them. I'm not a side shitter.
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>>54549717
>and tell me the 1080 will get at least 120fps on all of them
There's 4k in there so obviously that won't happen
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>>54549743
Like my previous post(and yours), I was referring to 1440p.
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>>54549792
Even if it won't offer 120hz+ on every game

Does it honestly have to do that to be a big upgrade over the 980ti? Its a retarded argument.
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>>54541461
>consoles

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Consoles are failing and failing hard. Literally everyone is predicting these refresh consoles to be the last consoles. Even the Ubisoft CEO said like 2 days ago this is the last console gen. It's either going to go into streaming or mini pc's like the steambox or these new nvidia upgradable pc's they're building for Microsoft (which the xbox ceo has confirmed they're working on).

Consoles are dead. Streaming on form factor affordable pc's are the way forward.
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>>54549819
If you have forgotten already, the main post was the retarded pricing of the 1080 when the 1070 brings similar performance at $200 less. Someone on 1080p shouldn't be upgrading to these Nvidia cards. The ones that have higher end cards like the 980Ti or FuryX should really wait for 1080ti and Greenland since they're probably on 1440p or above monitors.
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>>54549832
Streaming or*
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>nvidiots buy pascal cards
>later this year true hbm2 cards are released making 1080 obsolete
>retards have fallen for nvidia jewery again

Why is it so difficult to just wait a couple of months?
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>>54539775
You dont need to wait for anything. Obviously AMD and Nvidia are slotting their initial GPUs into entirely different price segments with only one exception.

P11 is going to be $150-200, P10 is going to be $350/275, Vega might be $550/450

1080 and 70 are 600(700) and 380(450) respectively. 1060 wont be released until the end of the year, following Nvid's usual pattern, which is also when 1080 price dr- I mean Vega is released.

Until full reticle limit chips are feasible to mass produce all the market segments are taken up unnoposed by the two companies, with the near exception of full P10 and the 1070.
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>>54547433
Go look Fury X, it loses less frames in bigger resolutions because it has very good bandwidth.
By the way, this makes me think about the 980ti, it is a 384 bit card, the 1080 is 256 bit. I think that NVidia has been fucking around with memory/bandwidth optimizations. Maybe this is why they didn't get as much performance as expected. I wonder how the 1080 would perform in high (4k) resolution.
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AMD is so behind this time around Nvidia might just start rebranding the 1080 next year.
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>>54540087
This is some pretty bad shilling even for here
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>>54549876
>If you have forgotten already, the main post was the retarded pricing of the 1080 when the 1070 brings similar performance at $200 less.
Obviously the 1070 will be the better buy, thats not even something thats open for debate
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>>54550046
Why wait when you have the money and can enjoy it now?

Vega will still be at least a 600$ card, I can have fun with the 1070 until it and the gp 102 arrive
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ITS THE CURRENT YEAR AND YOU'RE STILL NOT WAITING???!?
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>>54550459
Holy shit I kek'd hard
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As an AMD drone I'm tired of having to wait to catch up. Unless the 490 is amazing I'll just get a 1070.
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When are we expecting Polaris to drop?
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>>54539471
Better than AMD rebrands.

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-400-mobility-gpus-confirmed/
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>>54550242

Pascal is basically a maxwell rebrand except a die shrink, it brings nothing new
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>>54539775
>2016
>still no async
>1080 Ti will still be Pascal, so no async either
It's like you faggots enjoy getting scammed. Have fun when nvidia starts gimping Maxwell, a 980 Ti will perform worse than a 390X, kek.
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>>54551944
>yfw they can't gimp Maxwell since Pascal is a shrunken Maxwell.
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>>54551982
>Volta releases
>DOUBLE GIMPING TIME!
kek
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The graph says "Relative VR Gaming Performance", so what about non-VR (aka 99% of everything) stuff?
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>>54539615
Over 20% of nvidias employees are Indian
Nice try, pajeet
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will a 4670 be cpu bound with this generation of cards? do I have to make the skylake jump?
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>>54540412
>1.7
>1.7

NVIDIA MEMES ARE BACK BOYS
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>>54552621
Fire up them woodscrew and pork shoulders.
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>>54539556
and nvidia have been doing this for years.

The only thing this thread reinforces is that instead of being a moron consumer buying into advertising, you should critically analyse the purchases you are making and the claims of advertisers.

To that I say: no fucking shit.

Personally I'm waiting for the hbm2 cards.
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>>54541944
Try to be less obvious when shilling, friend.
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is there any source on the 7.5GB GTX1070?
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Leaving /g/ until these cards come out seems like the right option.
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>>54552452
In typical games, no, not even close to seeing any cpu 2500k or better bottlenecking a single gpu set-up.
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>>54555344
that's good to know
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>>54540148
>buying multi-gpu cards
Stop being retarded, m8.
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