Which of the two deserves the title of the greatest /tech/ genius of all times, /g/?
Musk is the only actual genius-level IQ in that picture.
neither you dumb niggers
iPhone vs. revolution in sustainable energy/cars/ going to space
>>54514980
Musk is the real thing. He sold a game he programmed himself, he has a degree in Physics. Jobs is just a walking meme PR person compared to Musk.
Elon
>>54514980
One was a shill, the other actually invented something and then became a shill
Musk
Steve Wozniak
Eon musk didn't do shit. It's actually insulting him to jobs.
>>54515069
Electric cars are hardly rocket science.
>>54514980
Serious question: from a technology stand point what has Jobs actually achieved ?.
One enabled hipsters with child slave labor.
The other one is going to enable us to live on Mars with American inguity.
>>54515097
Comparing him*
>>54515099
A revolution.
>>54515098
subtle irony
>>54515151
In what ?.
>>54514980
>>>/biz/
Seriously tho, only genius in tech celebrities I can think of is Carmack, but I'm not entirely sure.
>>54515118
>believing Musk's mars bullshit
yeah Musk has finally surpassed Jobs on shilling prowess
No doubt about which one has more of a head for hairplug technology.
Still impressed how good the hairjob looks.
>>54515223
It sounds absurd and ambitious but he's delivered on all projects I've heard of him undertaking. I'm sure hes failed before, but it must not have been as notable.
Musk made PayPal and sold it so that we'd be driven around by robotic electric cars with our waifus on Mars.
>>54514980
marketing specialist vs. actual engineer
>>54514980
Jobs is the inventor of the smartphone, used throughout the entire world, he flipped the lifestyle of many persons in a single decade.
Musk made a kind of nice electric car, but it's fucking expensive and I'm not too sure people have heard about his other ventures.
>>54515283
>he's delivered
he hasn't delivered shit, he's only a poster boy for all those tax funneling companies which are actually falling apart like solar city
>>54515328
>invented the smartphone
LG would like a word with you.
>>54515354
Motherfucker he just launched a satellite for Japan that had the launching rocket land on a fucking barge in the ocean so that it could be reused and slash the shit out of launch costs.
He's been delivering time and again.
>>54515384
who cares? no one used it.
The iPhone was the first smartphone and everyone knows it
>>54515328
>steve jobs invented the smartphone
You are dumb as shit.
You realize smartphones existed before the iphone yes? You realize that Steve Jobs had nothing to do with the creation of the iphone right?
Fucking wow.
>>54515393
>He
no you mean the engineers that actually bought the engine designs from a bunch of russians in the 90s while Musk acts as the poster boy for the jew shareholders
>>54515384
Steve Jobs invented more than just the smartphone.
What about tablets?
We forget today because we have so many different tablets, Nexus, Kindle Fire etc we forget the original one was the first iPad
Each product Jobs released revolutionized the whole field
>>54515428
>oh no a man who started a company uses the expertise of the employees he is paying what a fool
>>54515434
Thanks to steve jobs they're literally worse now
>>54515476
he didn't start it his shareholders did
>>54515493
It looks like you don't know how the share market work.
Educate yourself http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shares.asp
>>54515418
Apple used it to design the iphone. Apple each case of Apple "revolutionizing" a product simply means they threw their marketing department behind a product line that other companies spent years working on.
>>54515434
See above and pic related, which was taken in TWO THOUSAND AND MOTHERFUCKING TWO.
Other companies do the heavy lifting, Apple comes in after they've worked out the bugs, slaps a Apple logo on it and threws a few million in marketing shekels behind their "invention."
See also: mp3 player, smart watch, htpc
>>54514980
Neither, both are pretty much PR campaigns because people can't relate to companies alone they need figures to look up to.
Although I must say Elon Musk is more qualified but concepts the companies he owns have are not his to be fair. It's just that he is the one who took the risk, and he is still taking risks as even Tesla is not yet profitable (but likely to be soon).
>>54515523
looks like you don't know shareholders actually found a company along with a CEO
but hey keep sucking on Musk's dick maybe he'll pay you a hairjob too
Steve Jobs knew shit about tech
He did have vision for widespread use of pcs, but Wozniak was the one who actually knem how it worked
>>54515434
Except the tablet and the GUI, which is what Apple's early computers were famous for, were not invented by Steve Jobs or his team.
They were invented at an independent research lab Xerox PARC by Alan Kay and his friends
>>54515098
I see what you did there.
>>54515561
This. To be fair though, historically we've always given credit to the owner of a company for the inventions of the company. Most notably Thomas Edison.
>>54514980
>implying either one of them isn't a shill and the product of PR campaigns so that people can relate to them and see them as idols
>>54514980
Like I give a fuck.
Fucking grow up. Does it matter? No.
>>54515566
Wozniac didn't forsee ipads and iphones though.
>>54514980
both of them are media made cult leaders for idiots to follow them and give them their money, so none
>>54515196
His grave
>>54514980
>>54515428
You should really get a new tinfoil hat, the current one is a bit tight on you.
>>54515538
again, who cares?
that's how it works.
If all those companies have invented those things way beyond apple why does no one remember some LG shit? Why did no one buy it?
Maybe they were just too dumb to do it properly, otherwise they'd be the first, they'd be big and making lots of money. But, no, they're not, Apple is. Think about that. They're simply the best and you have to acknowledge that.
>>54515684
can't wait until my self driven Tesla kills me after the US government considers me an undesirable by error cause some algorithm failed
>>54515719
They're the best at manipulating brain dead retards like you.
>>54515733
>Tesla
One put plugin connectors on cars, and the other removed them from computers.
>>54515733
lel
>>54515733
"A man in San Francisco died today after his Tesla burst into flames, now on to the sports news"
>>54515719
There is a distinct difference between successful engineering and successful marketing. Apple is good at rebranding the inventions of others and marketing them as their own. Actual innovation takes place elsewhere.
They're not even particularly good at marketing even. They don't have a commanding marketshare anywhere they compete. The reason for their financial success is that they're able to gouge the few people who do buy their shit.
>>54515733
I'm super on the fence about self driving cars.
Eliminating human drivers would remove a lot of deaths due to distraction/texting/drinking/stupidity. Not sure if that's good or not because that's one of the few modern implementations of Darwin's Law to keep the gene pool strong. Being able to take a long trip and just read a book, nap, look at the scenery or browse /g/ the whole time would be great. Would make the work commute suck far less.
On the other hand, the government and corporations having full tracking of everywhere you go is a disgusting thought, and there will surely be mandatory backdoors for the NSA and/or other agencies to get in to the car software on the fly, meaning that of course other people will find them too and all of them might decide to crash you one day.
But man would it be nice to just take a nap while the car drives.
>>54515733
>self driven cars
>>54515874
>>54515749
your envy at Apple is showing.
Just admit that other companies are inferior. It's no good denying.
>>54515940
Your envy at above room temp IQ is showing.
Just admit you got scammed and move on. It's no good post purchase rationalizing.
>>54515324
Musk owned a portion of PayPal.
He didn't do shit except hire developers.
>>54515940
They're superior at extracting high profit margins out of Foxconn shit from idiots like you.
>>54514980
Say what you will about Jobs not actually knowing the ins and outs of his tech but everything Musk did would've been done eventually, in a comparable amount of time by someone else, I think. I don't know if you could say the same thing about Jobs' accomplishments.
Jobs
musk can land a spacerocket safely without getting destroyed and re-use it again.
he made a mass production car factory that nobody done in decades.
fuck steve jobs with his homoseksual apple phone.
>>54515898
People having access to you self driving software is an important problem but the quality of the code that goes into it is also abysmal, if you read what the engineers that reviewed Toyota's code said for a lawsuit you'd never drive a car with an electronic system ever again.
>>54515094
>>54516000
>>54515973
Again, it just seems you're envious that they're making the highest profit, have the best brand value, lots of important people use their products.
Meanwhile, who cares what an LG crap is? No one.
>>54516030
>accomplishments
>phones were geared toward functionality and features
>iShit comes out
>everything is catered to mouthbreathing iDiots who want to play GAYMES on flash glossy touch screen shit
>>54515196
Social engineering.
He successfully created a way to actively control the collective psychie and created tools for Jews to take you money with the click of a button on your phone...
>>54516089
>bragging about a company profitting off you
Spotted the American.
>>54516097
this desu senpai
Apple is a toy company mass producing shiny useless toys for technology illiterate morons.
Tesla is actually doing something useful.
Musk:Can create an answer.
Jobs: Pancreatic cancer.
>>54516127
>not recognizing the most critical metric for success in a company
>companies shouldn't be profitable
>profit is bad
>everything should be free!
Spotted the worthless statist socialist parasite.
>>54515151
>>54515328
You realize jobs was not a tech genius. He was an ex hippie that ran the buisness. Steve woziak was the one who did the tech stuff.
>>54516141
>>54516097
You people dismissing Apple's contribution to mobile computing are absolutely deluding yourselves.
>>54516127
That's how business works fampai unless you want to live in the USSR but you see how well that worked out for them lol
>>54515781
Seriously, I"m curious. Is Apple Maps usable now?
>>54516204
Apples contributions != steve jobs
>>54516204
>iToddler defending his toyPhone and single panic home button interface
Go sit in the corner iToddler, this is a technology board.
>>54516075
links pls
>>54516224
>Is Apple Maps usable now?
>>54516241
Not all of it, sure.
>>54516251
I've never owned any Apple devices, actually. But I do recognize the trend-setter.
>>54516210
I realize that profits are necessary but you must be some kind of financial cuck to brag that a company profits more off of you than any other company, both per product sold and in total.
>>54515081
This.
>>54516204
>hard to use
I mean it's common knowledge Apple customers are subhuman retards that can't breathe without being told to, but that picture just drives the point even further.
Why are you proud of being a literal brain dead moron that can't even figure out how a Moto Q works?
>>54516204
>that chart
Applel users really are rerarded.
>>54516204
WinCE was dumbed down shit. It was literally W98/XP with a start menu and a limited selection of programs. How is that hard to use?
Oh, you want just a one button toy with an Angry Birds shortcut right on the home screen, gotcha.
Why to Appletard morons even come to technology forums just to brag about how fucking retarded they are?
>>54516173
underrated
>>54516173
kek
>>54516204
>Apple's contribution to mobile computing
If Apple does have any claim to said contribution, which I find highly doubtful, Jobs had nothing to do with it.
>>54516389
>How is it hard to use.
Fuck off, windows shill. Didn't you see the chart?!
>>54516389
>>54516383
>>54516305
this desu senpai
>>54516389
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>>54516287
I'm not the guy you're talking to but, seriously, learn supply and demand. Apple's not forcing anyone to buy their products but they've raised the value of their products so that people do it anyway. If you can do it, do it. Make as much money as you can because money helps you do the things you want to do later. Nobody's being forced into anything. That's just good business.
>>54516075
I know someone who uses the Tesla autopilot feature reasonably often and absolutely loves it, says its worked flawlessly for him
>>54516173
jej
>>54516498
>money helps you do the things you want to do later
Irony.
>>54515094
fuck this thread you fucking dragon dildo fucks. it is now a terry thread.
>>54516525
The business point is still true though.
>>54516537
based terry
>>54516498
I understand supply and demand, but the demand is created in large part because of marketing, not technological innovation. Also, the true cost of ownership is hidden from consumers in America through obscure cell phone contracts that offer the product for "free".
Traditional supply and demand assumes an informed consumer. Look at marketing campaigns and you'll see the intent is to create anything but an informed consumer.
Steve jobs popularized smart phones, tablets, and mp3 players and helped push the rest of worlds companies forward in each category. He also made computers more mainstream.
Steve jobs made Apple the most valuable company in the fucking world. If he were still alive it would still be to this day
>>54516657
>muh shekels: the post
At least you tried.
>>54515094
Serious question here.
Is Terry A Davis a 'genius'? Is his OS any good?
What is his educational background? He seems smart, but crazy.
>>54516875
He's schizophrenic, which is highly correlated with high IQs.
>>54516612
this is true
>>54516498
that's not even the point, what makes us mad is the fact that apple has convinced their followers that they're buying a superior product which they are objectively not. this leads to retards thinking their product is actually superior because derp it's so easy to use and so fast when they don't realize that's only possible because it's a dumbed down OS that they can't do shit with. in the end it's all just about exploiting normies, charging extra money for less features
Richard Stallman
>>54516926
I never heard of him until just now
>In an elementary school gifted program, he started using an Apple II; in the early 1980s, he learned assembly language on a Commodore 64, then continued programming throughout high school. Then he enrolled at Arizona State University, where he earned his bachelor’s degree, then a master’s in electrical engineering in 1994.
The guy is freakin brilliant but equally insane.
>>54515328
Also, must actually revolutionized the way payments are made over the internet today. He's the reason PayPal exists and why you can pay for your shit tier waifu in seconds instead of weeks.
>>54516732
He did more for the world than Elon
>>54514980
ok who the fuck is that untermencsh on the right
>>54514980
Steve Jobs is basically Dana White.
Dana White's friends were billionaire Brazilian Jiujitsu fans based in Vegas, so they went into the fight business. Jobs' friend was Steve Wozniak, a computer engineer based in California at the cusp of the personal computer revolution, so they went into computers and tech.
>>54515118
>The other one is going to enable us to live on Mars with American inguity.
It's incredible how quick nationalists buy into Musk's rhetoric, forgetting he just likes to sweeten them up so he can get more UncleSamBux for his rockets.
>>54517097
>t. Foxconn Executive
>>54517110
Except Musk didn't do shit with paypal and didn't create paypal.
Paypal became what it is today via Ebay more than anything Musk could have contributed to it.
