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It costs the same amount as the 980ti and yet it only has a 20% improvement. Is this really what Nvidia expects us to pay for? Shitty overpriced cards that barely outperform the last gen. If you buy a 1080, you are legit retarded.
Everyone with a brain will wait for the 1080ti.
>>54510115
Or Vega.
>>54510115
Assuming they buy nVidia.
I'm waiting to see how cost effective that AMD card that matches or exceeds the 980ti is going to be.
>>54510115
depends this time; 1080ti has always been a cut down version of their top end board; this time their top end board isn't supposed to come out for another year or more (GP100 is Volta, right?) so this time the 1080ti might just be a slightly faster, slightly bigger 1080 rather than a cut down titan.
might not be worth it if you can grab a 1080 for cheap
>>54510139
Same here. Hopefully Vega 11 impresses. I'm looking to buy 2 of them when they come out, unless the 1080ti rekts it. 6144 stream processors looks promising tho.
People are looking at the 1070,meanwhile they have a 290x...
>>54510179
I have a 290. I'm not really looking to upgrade unless AMD's new cards blow my ass out. Hahaha.
If anything I need to upgrade my FX-6300 to something else.
Newegg has FX-8300s on sale for $100, but idk if it's worth it.
>>54510382
It's not.
Zen is coming out.
>>54510115
The problem with this is that you wait 6 months for ti variant and get much more for your money, but then you've only got a year until the next generation of graphics cards gets released, in which the **70 tier card will beat your ti card for a fraction of the cost
When does 1080 embargo lift?
>>54510678
Which is why I buy AMD.
It's cheap, and it lasts a few years.
The only card worth buying from nVidia over the last year was the 980ti, otherwise it made more sense to buy AMD.
Plus nVidia will find a way to gimp the shit out of the older cards to make the newer ones seem better.
Maybe I'm just a poorfag.
>>54510179
>>People are looking at the 1070
>7.5GB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANE2verd1dk
>>54510130
>>54510157
Lamoing @ these brandname-cucks.
AMD isn't even trying to hide that nVidia will rek their shit with Pascal, so now they had to make an emergency decision to stress out Vega, which is a completely shit business decision since it will cannibalize their own Polaris sales, but they have no choice since Pascal is THAT superior.
Vega will be like any rushed launch, poor availability, unfixed hardware bugs, poor drivers. Just like Freesync, which still doesn't work properly on half the monitors
>>54510154
>GP100 is Volta, right?
You're an idiot. What do you think the P stands for?
Does Nvidia really gimp older cards with their latest drivers? I think I may stick with AMD this year if so since i want my GPU to last 3 years.
>>54511250
Thats wrong actually lmao. The 1080 beats a 980ti by about 20% if even that. All AMD has to do is release a card over 20% better than the Fury X and they win the high end for now. The Vega 10 is gonna have 4096 SPs which are GCN 4.0 and are 40% faster than the Fury Xs SPs. Not to mention with the clock speed increase caused by the node shift, AMD should be well ahead of the 1080, and that's not even the flagship card lmao.
Polaris isn't meant to be competing with the High end, its a mid ranged GPU meant for most consumers to be able to afford. It already is at 390x preformance with extremely low clocks (800mhz), and considering the yields the final clock speed could be around 1400mhz, which is already better than the 980ti considering how AMD scales better than Nvidia in terms of clock speeds.
Vega coming out early is because they know it will beat Nvidias offerings, not because they know it won't. Typical Nvidia shill, doesn't even care to look at the facts.
(Also async is a thing Nvidia still doesn't have)
>>54511250
I have a freesync monitor, it works literally flawlessly. What the fuck are you talking about.
>>54511053
What a piece of shit, the Original 3.5 was way better.
>>54511759
>The 1080 beats a 980ti by about 20% if even that
Besides, 20-25% is expected of a die shrink from 28 to 16nm. This is nothing spectacular.
>1080 for 3 years
>1070 for 2 years?
which should I pick /g/
>>54511759
>The 1080 beats a 980ti by about 20% if even that
>so desperately brandname-cucked that you have to literally lie on the internet to defend your master
Also, not only are you lying, but you're comparing cards in two different price segments, it's not valid. You're both dishonest AND retarded.
>>54511791
>Just like Freesync, which still doesn't work properly on half the monitors
>half the monitors
>I.E. It works OK on the other half
>You have one of those
>It doesn't contradict what I said
How fucking retarded are you?
>>54511647
No, stop spreading FUD
>>54511791
>literally "works fine for me ;)"
>>54511918
>980ti is 600$
>1080 is 600$
OK.
So? it's not like AMD has anything that beats the GTX980Ti let alone the Titan X.
>>54511647
>>54511964
yeah that's why the performance steadily goes down over time.
>>54511856
>Nvidia
>2 years
>3 years
You do know they are only good for 1 year, right? That's when not using DX12.
>>54512034
So? It's not like your mom loves you let alone your stepdad.
>>54512043
They're going to drag out DX12 and instantly shit all over these cards that aren't even out yet in less than a year.
>buying nvidia ever
>>54512043
There are plenty of people still using 770's and 780Ti's so I'm not sure what you mean. Also DX12 is trash right now, by the time there are more games using it pretty much everyone will have upgraded to something else by then.
Well I started my new build with this. One 1080 should be enough right?
>>54512002
1. You're still a liar, ignoring that doesn't suddenly mean any of your points matter
2. TI launced at 650, and obviously is still a different segment card, the correct comparison is 980-1080 and 980ti-1080ti
>>54512138
That thing is basically a tv
>>54512043
How fucking new to technology are you AMCucks?
>let's base our entire judgement of upcoming architectures on a single benchmark done on a different architecture on an unfinished and unreleased standard.
Do you believe intel Optane/X-point will literally be 1000 times faster than current SSDs too?
>>54512036
>performance goes down
No. Performance of the newer cards increases more than the older cards. There's no worse performance.
>>54512190
Yeah it's gonna look nice in my bedroom with my 55 inch curved UHD.
>>54512218
>Do you believe intel Optane/X-point will literally be 1000 times faster than current SSDs too?
Once we move past legacy interfaces yes. SATA is so fucking slow with that is coming out and they have no idea how to fix it. So they put a band aid on it(2 data connectors to 2 drive).
>>54511250
>a completely shit business decision since it will cannibalize their own Polaris sales
Uh, what? Why would a card for the enthusiast segment cannibalise sales of lower-priced cards? That's dumb. If anything, having the most powerful card on the high end boosts sales of the rest of the stack. Nvidia have been winning for years solely by having the most powerful (single GPU) card on the market at any given time. AMD cards outperform their Nvidia counterparts at every other price point, yet sell like shit because people see Nvidia as being better because the top card is so good.
>>54512172
How am I lying? The 1080 is literally 20% more powerful than the 980ti at stock speeds. That's literally a fact.
>>54512002
1080 is $699 for another couple of months fag.
>>54512331
It's $699 for the collectors edition or whatever autistic name they are calling it. The base one is still $599
>>54512307
No its 25% at pure stock. Boost makes it even higher with early oc benchmarks showing it has a 50% performance increase when overclocked over a titan x and 980 ti.
>>54512307
Is that so? Doesn't seem to be performing 20% better. Depending on what you're doing the 1080 is slower. What you're saying is a very general sweep that can't hold up.
>>54512383
If you want to pull those out, then we can pull these out and laugh at AMD
http://videocardz.com/59725/nvidia-gtx-1080-polaris-10-11-directx12-benchmarks
>>54512307
There aren't even proper reviews out yet. You're lying, or you're incredibly retarded for extrapolating all that from some cellphone photo of a 3D mark benchmark or whatever.
Also, the point is retarded to begin with, what's wrong with it "only" being 20% faster AND cheaper?
>>54512478
>ayymd
Kek
>>54510179
>People are looking at the 1070,meanwhile they have a 290x...
Hai, I got a 750 ti almost brand new in my dell inspiron 570. It rules, man. There is no perceptible difference between 720p abd 1080p from a 10" monitor 1 meter away, and beyond 24 fps no human eye can tell the diference anyways.
>>54512499
Its from a trusted overclocker who put a video up of his review sample. Its legit. Nvidia is cucking us again with there shitty incremental updates, only 20% for the same price, we should be seeing 2x for the same price considering the node jump.
>>54512382
When overclocked compared to a stock 980ti. You are comparing a stock 980ti to an Overclocked (by a professional overclocker by the way) 1080. You are autistic. And guess what, the 980ti has a boost clock too. 20%
>>54512478
That's the site that has 2 supposedly identical polaris 10 GPUs and both have drastically different FPS. Totally legit.
>>54511250
October was the original launch time before an HBM2 packaging issue was discovered. It got fixed far quicker than expected so the launch only got delayed a few weeks as opposed to three months as the slide they showed said.
>>54513016
The source is the same place >>54512383
got his image. So it can either be totally legit is people can stop throwing those benchmarks around.
>>54512940
>countless number of early benchmarks prove him wrong
>he's comparing a heavily oc custom PCB $900 980 ti to a $599 1080
>still goes on about the same figures making him look like a laughing stock
>i-I swear I'm right, m-my dad works for nvidia
>i-I'm a p-professional overcucker
Kek
>>54510110
980ti buyers remorse thread
>>54512861
Nigga, the real tests are out in like two weeks. You're either a 12 year old ADD kid or just fucking retarded for drawing conclusions from some youtuber or whatever
And again, even if it turns out like you said what's wrong with it "only" being 20% faster AND cheaper?
>we should be seeing 2x for the same price considering the node jump.
Says a guy who can't even solder. Top Kek
>>54513066
It's still a completely shit business decision since it will cannibalize their own Polaris sales, but they have no choice since Pascal is THAT superior.
And the announcement came literally hours after nVidia rekt their shit. It's unrelated to HBM2
>>54512708
>beyond 24 fps no human eye can tell the diference anyways
please tell me this is bait
>>54513302
ofc it is. everyone knows it's 27 fps
>>54513245
>Nigga, the real tests are out in like two weeks.
5 days. The NDA lifts the 17th.
>>54513392
Well there you go. Makes him even more retarded
>same price
>only
>>54513302
>>>54512708 (You)
>>beyond 24 fps no human eye can tell the diference anyways
>please tell me this is bait
The movies are at 24 fps, I don't see any fedora saying they are unwatchable because its low frame rate. Also, the europeans are famous by they PAL standar at 25 fps, and no complains were made beside the color superiority than NTSC.
>>54513637
I'll take what is precomputed motion blur for 500$ bob.
>>54513637
24fps was not always the standard, but it was arrived at for a few reasons.
18fps is the minimum before motion appears to be linear or smooth. Ever wonder why old silent movies move fast? It's because they were originally shot in 18fps (or even less, early on) and are being played back as 24fps.
Why the move to 24fps? Divisibility. You can divide a second of film into halves, thirds, fourths, sixths, eighths, and twelfths and keep whole frames if it's shot as multiple of twelve per second. We also measure time itself in multiples of 12.
The reason we didn't go higher until recently with 48fps films is that film is expensive. Double the frames, you double your cost of film and the processing of it.
The film industry's choice of 24fps has nothing to do with "maximum framerate" the human eye can perceive.
>>54513637
Movies are not interactive. Higher frame rates make games feel more responsive. Movies also have to deal with the physical limitations of cameras, where faster shutter speeds can lead to reduced image quality in some lighting conditions. This is especially true of when 24 fps was made standard.
Stop this faggotry now.
Simple answer, which is better.
980ti or stock 1080.
>>54513292
AMD didn't announce jack about a schedule push, their single graph on the matter had Polaris 10 smack dab in the middle between 2016 and 2017, and Vega 10 right over 2017.
Why would you think it'd cannibalize Polaris 10 sales anyways. That's like saying Tonga cannibalizes Hawaii sales. They're completely different price point products.
>>54510110
This is the future you've chosen
Almost all of the benchmarks we've seen so far are either via NVidia's marketing team or through synthetic benchmarks. This conversation is almost pointless until we see its performance in the wild, because that is the only thing that matters.
>>54514083
stock 1080
>>54511647
They optimize them for new titles less.
Just look at how the GTX 970 is being shit on by the 390 right now in brand new games. Just in time for the 1070 guys!
>>54515509
>Just look at how the GTX 970 is being shit on by the 390 right now in brand new games.
You're right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Jgf6rtEg8
>>54512861
This is how it's been for the past 5 years at least. The new cards are ~20% faster than the previous and use a lot less power. People expecting the 1080 to be anything more than 20% faster than a 980ti are idiots. Why would Nvidia change their business strategy now? If you have a x80 ti there's no reason to buy the the new gen. The 1080 and 1070 are going after the people sitting on 290xs or 780s. I always wait two generations before upgrading because at that point it's actually worth the money.
>>54515438
Don't worry, there'll be at least another couple hundred threads about comparing cards that aren't even out yet.
>>54515714
>Hawaii will be the new Tahiti gpu that will get even better over time.
Please god.
