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Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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First for Macbook Pros out there.
T410, 420 or 430?
>>54500173
T420 is the sweet spot.
>>54498848
anyone?
Just got the expresscard USB 3 thing for my X220. At first I thought it was shit cause it kept sliding out but you gotta push that shit in really friggen hard for it to stay in.
>>54500255
Just set a limit for max battery capacity and don't let it die all the way. Keeping it between 80-20 maximizes battery life.
>>54500227
I'm still in doubt myself. I like how the newer keyboard feels but I'm not very big fan of the the layout. But looking at performance the 430 is slightly faster than the 420 so I think I'll go for the 430. Is there any other reason to pick the 420 over the 430 other than the keyboard?
>>54500255
Set battery thresholds to 40/80 (default answer, I do 30/85) with lenovo's power management software in Windows or TLP under Linux. That alone will help it last longer because you're not beating the hell out of the cells at the upper and lower ranges of their capacity.
Do a "full charge" on it only when you know you're going to be out and about for a while and really need it.
>>54500313
No, the graphics on IvyBridge laptops are better, as well as the instructions per clock.
Got a pretty nice W520 coming from the US to the UK soon. What should I get as far as storage is concerned? So far I have in mind:
>256GB SSD - Linux + Windows
>1TB Travelstar
>16GB 1866MHz
>256GB MSATA SSD - Linux + Windows
>1TB Travelstar - Raid 0
>1TB Travelstar - Raid 0
>16GB 1866MHz
With Raid 0, is it possible to be setup across both OS's (Linux and Windows) without using the hardware level raid which originally was an option?
>>54500289
>>54500320
Thanks guys :)
Exactly what I needed to know
>>54500355
Is the pic related going to be yours? motherfucker's clean.
>>54500355
>i7-2860QM
>NO RAM
>NO HDD/OS
>NVIDIA Quadro 2000M
>1920 x 1080
£350 exc shipping etc.
Did I do 'ight?
>>54500340
Alright, thank. I think I've made my decision then. Now all I have to do is find one for a good price. I'm in the EU and found one T430, i7 3520M 2,90Ghz, 8GB, 1600x900 resolution for €519, is that a good price? It also comes with Win7 and a SSD but I'm going to install Linux anyway and I already have a SSD so I hope I can get a discount if he excludes those from the package.
>>54500426
enjoy paying 20% vat + handling fees
>>54500426
Yes, RAM is cheap anyway and if you're doing it right your OS will be free.
>>54500436
519 sounds pretty fair for such a high spec thinkpad, even if it is a alot it's gonna give you great performance and not be some cheap crap.
>>54500447
W520s like these are literally impossible to buy from what I've seen - it still works out cheaper anyway.
>>54500451
That's the plan!
>>54500173
I got my T420 with I5 dedicated graphics and 9 cell battery with no hdd for $150
>>54500393
Not the one in the image, I couldn't view the ebay ad before posting - this is the one that's on it's way.
To be fair, it looks just as clean when looking at the other pictures. The original one just looks as good as it does because it's in natural light and noise free.
Ayy. I have a TP as well.
Is there anything redeemable from a T400? I got it for free, used, from a friend that no longer needs it (2 actually). I've installed a hybrid 500gb Hard Drive / 120gb SSD, as well as moved from the original CPU to an i5-6500.
>>54500530
Damn man, shit is beautiful, thinking about getting one for adobe premiere.
>>54500530
The display had better be fucking good, relatively speaking.
>>54500552
get a dell precision instead
>>54500552
I'm getting one for Lightroom/PS (And maybe an alternative on Linux if it is actually viable) I've heard that the displays are supposed to be relatively decent. *fingers crossed*
>>54500541
Hope you plan on staying next to a power outlet and enjoy overheating with the new I5
>>54500561
>get a dell
>/tpg/
Are you sure you're not lost?
My X220 i5 2.6GHZ hits 95° When I'm playing League of Legends. Do I need to put new thermal paste or clean it or something or is this normal?
>>54500600
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
We love anything phat.
>>54500600
Dell Precisions are superior to the W series.
>better cooling
>MXM gpus, not soldered down bullshit
>no whitelists of any kind
>better quality screen options (10 bit IPS)
>>54500552
I hope that's not backlight bleeding I see. kek
>>54500606
that seems high, do you have TP fan control installed?
>>54500606
If that does not work plan on investing in a new cooler
>>54500355
By the way, any suggestions about the Raid? Ideally I'd like the two 1TB drives in Raid 0 across Linux and Windows. Is there a somewhat reliable way to go about doing this?
How are 2Tb 2.5mm drives now?
>>54500623
Don't know what your talking about you loser my t420 with dedicated graphics and has removable gpu
>>54500623
Dell's do not have based think lite tho you fucking loser
>>54500697
If anything I think it's the centred keyboard that I like the most. That's one of the main things which puts me off the P50...
>>54500355
>>54500530
Why do these looks so different to one another, is it just a mixture of the lighting/angle of the photo...? The first looks far more appealing and A E S T H E T IC
>>54500289
>>54500320
Actually, guys, just found out I can't do this :(
I'm on windows 10 and Lenovo doesn't support it for the T420,
The people from Lenovo online seem to be saying that the hardware of the battery should gradually set a threshold automatically for battery longevity.
What can I do? Should it not make too much of a difference hopefully?
Can someone tell ktgee to update their Dell guide?
Ordered this beauty today, probably as excited as I've ever been for a laptop.
>>54500893
Comfy.
>>54500893
How much and from where
>>54500840
It's really not that big of a deal. Your battery will last 3-5 years then you buy a new one. An extra few months at most isn't worth the hassle imo
>>54500173
t430 if you have the extra money
it is so worth it for hd 4000 alone
>>54500902
Tfw the trackpoint is all you'll need
>>54500910
30 bucks on eBay and it came with a T5600 and 8 cell. Wew lad
>>54500840
>battery should gradually set a threshold automatically
only on officially supported thinkpads
try the registry method: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Windows-10/Windows-10-charges-T450s-to-100-charging-threshold-not-respected/m-p/2139747#M1566
it works on a T420s with windows 8.1
Guys, I can buy a thinkpad x220 for 150-175€, 4gb ram 500gb hdd.. And I dont have money atm because I am a fucking student. Fuck me right?
>>54500078
1st for 'Books went to shit when they became aluminum.
How comfy are you right now /tgp/?
>>54501491
Pretty comfy with my T420
>>54501491
Pretty good.
Listening to Rush and playing Bugdom.
>>54501491
What do you use your X200 for?
anybody know why i cant order the 460p with dgpu from the lenovo store?
Anybody knows what are those gubbins called and where can I get them for cheap?
>>54501550
>x220
ftfy
>>54501599
>32nm beast
Even better.
>>54501642
leave me alone anon.
>>54501491
Why no cute stickers?
>>54501932
Hello Pajeet
>>54501941
That's not fair..
>>54501980
I was obviously joking. Don't take everything so seriously.
>>54501989
Mom pls, don't tell me what to do, I'm on the internet!
I just got an ssd and an ultrabay with it for my t520. I was going to leave the ssd in the ultrabay but since it contains the os, I'm worried it might get loose and mess up the system so I wanted to put it in the primary bay instead. When I opened it, I noticed the hdd in there had these rubber things on the side. Are these there to reduce the shock to the hdd and should I keep it there instead of the ssd? Also is the ultrabay getting loose a real concern or is it alright to just leave the ssd in there?
How hot do your thinkpads get? My T430 goes 70c when playing l4d2 on minimum settings. And even if I don't play games, just having a chat and browser with a few tabs (chrome or other) makes it run pretty hot.
Currently at 60c with discord and two chrome tabs open.
>>54502038
the rubber rails are to keep the drive snug in the drive bay, keep them with the caddy and whatever you stick in the drive bay
whatever drive is going to be your main drive you should stick in the drive bay and leave the other in the ultrabay, in case you actually need your CD reader or want to move your data drive to another computer or stick another hard drive in there or something it would be more convenient to just swap out the ultrabay hard drive since I'm pretty sure it is also hot swappable
>>54502051
>T420
>2 tabs chats, 1 1080p youtube
>dual 1680x1050 monitors off the iGPU
>never goes above 77c, usually around 55-60c
>xubuntu
I dont game so i have no idea show hot it would get but it wouldnt run too hot with burnout paradise via WINE back when i played that.
>>54502051
My T420 hits 80c when I open Firefox
Reposting archive with IBM-Lenovo schematics:
https://mega.nz/#!uY9RlKpJ!vGcVFF3C1VmHplhRm1_OqWjBG8Ld2WDoIya_-6OFsbo
>>54502051
I've never seen my T601F go over 70C, but I never leave the fan off.
>>54502099
My X220 stays below 50C with at least 20 FF tabs open + skype (I know, eww)
>>54502124
damn, i dont remember mega being this fast.
Worth it or not?
T450s
i5-5200U
1080P IPS
12GB RAM
500gb HDD
>>54502095
Also the browser is Chromium and the cpu is the i7-2620m. Chromium has a memory leak or something. I have to reboot at least once a week. otherwise literally nothing will open.
>>54502194
>Nu thinkpad
No
>>54501491
M8 is that pb&j? That shit's not healthy
>>54502282
you can't stop the progress
>>54502194
Nah, get the glorious 420
>>54502291
It's clearly just pb
>>54502192
Damn man, what isp you on I've got Junk Warner 50mbps and it sucks.
>>54502194
I like mine (though honestly I'm selling towards a MacBook Pro).
Battery life on Xubuntu is around 3-4 hours on the normal battery with mid-heavy use.
Upgrading was a bit of a bitch though. Finding the clamps to open it was a pain in the dick.
What are the ThinkPads of headpones?
>>54500061
where do I find graphics drivers for this t40 running 32 bit win 7
>>54502427
Verizon FiOS 150/150
I have torrents running in the background so i wasn't expecting my full 18.75MB/s But seeing over 5MB/s was nice.
>>54502840
Omg, you mother fucker, I hate where i'm at, I used to have verizon DSL 6.5mbps and was happy, now, but they discontinued it and now i've got TWC 50 and the latency is awful and theres buffering, I think they're violating net neutrality but no one cares.
So /tpg/, my T400 seems to have developed a slight issue. Every time I turn it on, the computer gives me a "fan error", beeps twice and then shuts off. I've managed to bypass the error screen by just hitting esc on startup, and the computer still seems to work fine under Ubuntu 14.04, but it gets ridiculously hot just a few minutes after starting anything processor-intensive.
Is this a common problem, and is there an easy fix? Or am I going to have to replace the entire fan assembly, thermal paste and all?
>>54502163
>below 50C
Damn, mine sits around 65-70 most of the time running Windows 10.
Do you think it would benefit from a change of thermal paste?
Probably about time to take it apart and clean the keyboard anyway.
>>54502873
Yeah latency is pretty good with FiOS from my experience.
5-15ms in CSGO, 8-20ms in rocket league, etc.
>>54502923
Replace the fan you jew
>>54501565
Ultrabay slim? HDD caddy, off of amazon
I was looking for a new laptop and I came across this
>http://www.amazon.com/dp/B018YIGHVK/ref=psdc_565108_t1_B018VJXAEO
It seems like a steal, but I think there might be a catch
>>54502307
Lenovo already stopped it, by going backwards.
>>54502739
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/itemdetails/0B47313/460/42C705410A574F998E810C8B32EABB79
>>54502749
Uh, IObit Driver Booster?
>>54500061
What is the lightest, most portable Thinkpad that still has the classic keyboard?
>>54503545
X220 probably
maybe X201s? rare as hell though
>>54503545
>>54503634
How much classic? I'm thinking X301 for really classic and light, but it is only as "fast" as a T61. If you can live with the double height Delete, then X220.
The X301 also has a bigger resolution (1440x900 against 1366x768 in the X220), but it supports less RAM (8GB instead of 16GB) and obviously the X220 is faster.
>>54503502
Also I am thinking of getting an E-reader for the shit ton of data hoarding Ive done with PDFs
>>54503665
>I'm thinking X301 for really classic and light, but it is only as "fast" as a T61.
No, X301 used SU processors. It's around 1/3 the speed of a T61.
Are i5 U processors never worth getting?
Looking at a 450 t550 with a i5-5300U 1080P screen and 4gb ram.
Should be easily upgradeable
>>54503753
You can't upgrade ULV processors. They're soldered to the board.
>>54503316
I don't think it's the fan, because if you remove the battery, the fan works again for a few days.
>>54502095
>>54502099
>>54502140
Thanks for the responses. Wanted to make sure my fan wasn't going bad.
I bought an external fan (not a mat) and it works well enough. Although if I end up not using it putting it on an actual fan for three minutes also works pretty damn good.
Okay guys, I just found a Dell Latitude E6430 for $280 which is slightly under the price I usually find X230 and T430 around my area.
Should I get it?
Alright /tpg/, come cringe with me
>disassemble T420:
>memory door, keyboard, keyboard bezel, screen
>replace screen panel with kickass alienware
>reassemble T420
>boot. Looks great! Everything works!
>notice small bulge where keyboard bezel wasn't exactly seated/snapped in properly
>ok, disassemble again:
>remove memory door, keyboard screw
>remove keyboard
>CABLE TEARS INSTEAD OF COMING LOOSE FROM HEADER
>bezel bulge isn't even fixable with keyboard removed
>mfw
now waiting on eBay replacement keyboard, can't even power on without it since the power button uses the keyboard cable and header
Pic related.
>>54503929
It's the fan, anon. Replace with genuine fan or one already fitted to the heatsink. Replaced my T601F fan with a chinese fan and it had different detents for the heatsink tabs than the original. Absolute fucking nightmare getting it fitted, and even then it's not 100% correct.
>>54504040
How did you I don't even. Those cables are fucking tough.
>>54504040
That's a real bitch, I'm sorry that happened. I'd call you a gorilla but those cables bend weird and may have suffered fatigue over time.
Have a kitty in a box.
>>54504216
That's a big cat
>>54504213
it tore right along the stupid metal clip which holds it flush to the back of the keyboard.
Just pulled a bit too hard at a particularly bad angle, I guess.
>>54504216
>>54504222
>>54504323
I love this board.
>>54504270
At least that cable is a separate part. You can get a fucked up used keyboard for $3.99 used and just swap the cable.
>>54504366
Baneposting is eternal.
t520, i7, 8GB RAM, NVS 4200m, 1600x900 screen.
$299
good deal? W/ windows of course.
>>54504563
Yeah nigga, buy it, that 4200m is like a Gt 610 and it performs real good for $299.
>>54504580
Comes with the 9cell and is apparently Grade A condition...
Hmmmm
I dont really NEED a laptop for anything I have a 5820k rig i use for my daily computing at home...
>>54504416
this is my plan, actually.
bought a $10 ebay keyboard with free shipping in "used-good" condition
if it doesn't work or has more wear than my current one, I'll just swap the cable. Hopefully without tearing it this time.
Will I look like a total loser carrying a T420 around college?
>>54504624
You'll be a loser if you carry around a dented up MBP, choose one.
>>54504624
>caring what random passerby faggots think
>not covertly carrying your T420 in your backpack with your extra mags
>t420
>i5
>8GB RAM
>1600x900
>9 cell
$190
will make for an alright traveling shit posting machine if nothing else.
>>54504624
Yeah, probably. Apple fans are hateful and will take advantage of the opportunity to speak about how great their product is.
The trick is to tackle them and suck on their wiener in front of everyone.
>>54504893
W-what
>>54505625
you heard him
>>54500697
>needing keyboard illumination
>wanting extra glare from the shitty light
I'm thinking about getting the new Thinkpad 13, 1080p, IPS panel, ssd and a good keyboard for about 700 eurobucks. I already have a x220 which unfortunately starts feeling it's age.
>>54501491
LOL! Just sent back my audio technika, they really weren't what I expected them to be. Just ordered a pair of overear marshall headphones, did I do good?
>>54506530
Go to the proper thread on g for general
>>54500061
>the red button displays a red balloon on the monitor for your red balloon viewing needs neatly placed in the middle of the keyboard to keep frequent red balloon viewing users happy
what thinkpad has the longest battery life?
>>54506704
9-Cell battery plus one in the ultrabay with give you the longest battery life on any thinkpad that can support those extra batteries.
>>54506530
everyone gives the M50X's a bad rap, tb.h i don't find them 'bad', but that said, I'm not such an audiophile. They work for me fine, maybe a bit bassy?
>>54503502
>>54503690
Pavilions seem kinda flimsy?
If you like the specs and aren't hauling it up Everest however...
>>54504893
>>54504642
>>54504624
Friend has hp flip non-removable battery touch screen memePC©.
Pull out x220,
>Hey do you have a fingerprint reader?
>Hey do you have an ssd?
>Hey can you replace the battery on your laptop with ease?
>Hey do you have a cute nightlight?
>Hey do you have trackpoint?
>Hey, how much was your laptop?
>mfw when he says $500 aud
>mfw i got this x220 for $250 aud
(I realise they are cheaper in the glorious US)
>>54506952
My friend has a Mac something, older one.
Got on me about my x200t and his fancy drawing set up.
So I showed him some of the porn I draw and he doesn't talk to me anymore.
Happen awhile back.
>>54506971
kek
pls don't tell me that you draw strange r34 Disney channel porn
>>54506971
Can you show us too? Just sensor it if it's really fucked up
>>54506991
censor
>ftfy
Absolutely cannot upgrade wireless ac 7260 driver 64bit from 18.33.2.2 to 18.40.anything.
Installs of the newer driver always succeed but fail to actually update the driver version.
Tried total uninstalls, 7/8.1/10 compatible versions, 18.40.0.0 instead of 18.40.0.2, direct from intel, via intel driver update, via lenovo system update.
My current driver will intermittently fail so hard it fucks up the whole device manager and I have to fail a restart into a bsod in order to return to operation.
What am i doing wrong?
>>54507020
thanks for correcting me, I'm not a native speaker
>>54507108
happy to help anon.
>>54500972
>30 bucks on eBay
nice, congrats on you purchase
T430
Core i5 3320M
180GB SSD
8GB
1600x900
290 eur
Is it worth it /g/?
>>54502051
My x230 goes around 75C (L4D2 1366x768 med-high settings, 45-70fps)
>>54507318
I'd say yes, although I think you're going to upgrade that SSD very soon
>>54504040
I can feel you pain, anon. I'm waiting for a replacement power jack (and mSATA SSD) to arrive for my X230 and I'm kinda nervous about disassembling the thing.
>>54507350
why?
>>54507370
not >>54507350
but I have similar config (i5-3320m/8GB/120SSD) and 120GB is kinda low.
>>54507385
It's 180 GB anon, I'm fine with size, is speed the issue?
>>54501491
I have those same headphones, so yes, I'm comfy.
So on a scale of Great to Will set my house on fire (and or bag), how bad of an idea is it to stick a I7-2720QM in my t420
>>54500061
hello fellow thinkpad owners and t420 owners.I was wondering if any of you have a baidu account to use to download a t420 motherboard schematic and upload it please
http://wenku.baidu.com/view/5e7827a4bb4cf7ec4afed0a9.html?from=search
T430, the last great chinkpad of our time.
>>18 cells of battery
>>1 mSATA + 2 SATA drives (running OSX off mSATA, Wangblows off SSD, exFAT 1TB spinndinger shared between)
>>4 USB3, 2USB2, mDP+VGA
Nvidia NVSButtSuck chip is not worth looking for, intelHD is so close in performance for less money/heat/power.
Also just purchased an X240.
Have wanted a 12" thinkpad forever.
This model fucking sucks.
Wish I had an X230T
>>54507408
Size was my only concern, I'm >>54507350 btw.
I don't use streaming services like spotify so my music library alone is already 200GB
>>54507530
>buying chinklet shit
we warned you
>>54507671
>my music library alone is already 200GB
I don't believe you
>>54507782
I'll take a screenshot when I'm home
>>54507782
That's only like 5 3 minute songs in .flac
>>54507782
its not that hard, im sitting at around 230GB and i could easily get more shit if i merged library's with other people in this house.
>>54507842
>flac
>not using surperior .wav files
what kinda difference is the x220t i5 against the x200t's c2d?
>>54507877
wavs are disgustingly big. I have a few files in mp3/320, flac and wav and the wav files as so much larger than either of the others. Unless you had infinite storage or were using it for archival i really would never use flac.
>>54507915
expect around a 2x performance increase going with the x220t vs an x200t. If you really want the aspect ratio that comes with the x200t try and find an x201t, at least they will have 1st get core i5s or i7s
>>54507950
I have the storage so I get my music flac if possible, it's not really noticeable but just the archival aspect sounds very appealing to me. It's like collecting CDs or Vinyl, more than an obsession than anything else
The usage of .wav files was a joke btw
>>54507995
yeah looking at the x201 tabs now
I use to own a t420 awhile back, and it was very nice. it had an i5 something
the wiki in the OP says that the x201 tab's one mark under my old t420, I can live with that
is there anything else I should know about the specifics of the cpu when browsing ebay? is there a model to avoid? it says "low voltage" on the wiki, how can I tell?
>>54500173
>>54500227
>>54500313
You can put t420 keyboards in t430 now thanks to a new BIOS mod, so there's no reason not to get a 430 other than higher price
>>54508024
yeah, flac isn't nearly as bad, i have quite a bit of stuff in it just because when i downloaded it i was not really paying attention. As long as your not using apple devices compatabilityauthy isn't really an issue either
Thinking of getting either a t520/30 or w520/30
Is there a significant difference in performance between a NVS and a Quadro? I need it for CADshit and some light gaming (CS:GO is it really, 60fps would be nice, dont care about what settings)
Is an NVS satisfactory? I know the Quadro adds a bit of weight
>>54508144
I stil use my old iPod sometimes, I convert it to mp3 V0 then, takes about 3 minutes per album. Anyway, I think talking abou this stuff is great but doesn't really belong ITT
On topic: do you guys ever use the fingerprint reader?
>>54508206
>fingerprint reader
Every time I need to log in on my windows thinkpad
What I never use is the clit mouse
feelio when waiting for the t420 in the mail
i wonder if my stupid ass will be able to figure out how if i can replace the dvd drive with an additional hdd
can my t420's charger work on a x201?
>>54508159
Substantial enough to be worth bothering with yes
But in the end, the weight addition is still minor. If you were that flimsy, you'd just get an ultrashit anyway. Also, you get a quad core with the W
Your battery life will be shorter but on battery if you crank up the Optimus and throttling, it should still work out
>>54508262
There's a thing you flick and a tab you pull and the DVD drive slides out. Then you just find the Ultrabay caddy that fits and stuff a hard drive in there and slide it in
>>54501565
>>54503386
I asked a few threads back about 3d printing one, is that a good idea?
>>54508320
Yes. All lenovo era ThinkPad chargers* before the X1 carbon are the same
*the 170w and 230w or so bricks are notched and won't fit
>>54508347
are you sure? it makes or breaks a bid
I have a 65w 20v one ina box with my t420 somewhere
this will work with a x201 t?
>>54508206
I use fingerprint for lastpass and W7 login/BIOS startup
Breddy gud
>>54508441
>letting the government legally obtain all your passwords without a warrant
>>54508507
that reminds me to sticker my webcam
>>54508540
>not disabling it completely
why bother they can see you via infra red
>>54507782
>>54508326
i.e, will the material used make a significant difference or any overheating issues. And of course, has anyone tried it or even thought of it?
>>54508540
I personally use a thick bit of blu-tack
Does the x220 support USB3 for boot devices? It doesn't seem to recognize my USB3 stick, so I can't install an OS right now.
>>54508364
Yes. I regularly use the same chargers between my X61t, L412 X220t and the other X220t (also work on the X100e "Mini 10")
>>54504624
Friendly reminder normies really don't give a shit what technology you are using.
>>54508936
Seconding an answer to this. I was about to buy an x220.
>>54509056
how's the x220t feel when you draw? Feel like you could draw a masterpiece?
>>54504624
No. Tbh, everyone in uni is broke so it's cool if you carry cheap stuff around. Just don't brag about your T420 or act to fanatically about it. Be like "yeah lol I needed an old laptop for uni and this piece of shit will do"
Then later when you get home you give your thinkpad all the love it deserves and make your apologies about acting that way in front of all those people. But don't worry, it'll understand that you just did it to survive. Thinkpads are smart, they're not stupid like a cheap ASUS machine
>>54509165
>digital drawings
>masterpiece
Pick one
>>54509143
Mine just arrived, I will test my USB 2.0 stick and then we see if USB 3 is the issue here
What's a decent thinkpad for a budget of $250 that has 4gb ram?
>>54509173
Wow dude, I wouldn't want you as a friend. Your fucking thinkpad gives it his best every day, compiling tirelessly for you just because that's what friends do and you fuck him over in front of everyone just so you could pretend to fit in?
You don't deserve your thinkpad.
>>54509234
EXACTLY
>>54509173
STAND UP FOR YOUR THINKPAD #ThinkPadsMatter
>>54509234
It's not about fitting in, it's about survival. Real friends know they'll be there for each other no matter what. It was actually my thinkpad who came up with the idea to be a coolguy in uni so I could finally get a gf. I think he got tired of downloading all that porn
No all jokes aside, it's fine to carry a ThinkPad around at the campus. I get more remarks about my OS than about my PC
>wow your windows looks very weird
>it's actually Linux
>>54509297
>wow your windows looks very weird
>have arch OS
>everyone thinks I'm programming Jesus
>>54509356
>have arch OS
>wear gloves because it's winter
1337 H4x0R
>>54509297
>too inexperienced to pirate windows
>use xubuntu
>don't even program
>everyone thinks I'm some bad ass hacker
>...
>still no gf
>>54509165
Somewhat slippery as one would expect. The accuracy around the edges issue means you can't drawfag as well as say an X61t
I could never draw well though
Have something done on it from a long time ago
>>54509232
X220, T520, T420, etc. You could probably even get something newer for that price
>>54509173
Uni here is somewhat diverse. It's mostly the Chinese students (welcome to any Australian uni as you do) who use apple computers
>>54509383
>too inexperienced to pirate windows
Pirated windows is literally the worst OS
>>54509391
wait so, you'd say the x61t's a better alternative for drawfag?
why?
would krita/photoshop cc run alright on it?
>>54509143
Okay, it seems like USB 3.0 isn't supported for booting, my USB 2.0 worked just fine.
>>54509475
Ps will rape the X61t, but Krita should be alright since Sai runs fine - you may have colour accuracy issues on the XGA ones since the overlay and backlight yellow with age. As much as I did say the X61t does a better job for drawfagging, I will concede that it's really getting to that point of hard to use. It's nearly 10 years old! Alternatively, the X201t may also be more ideal
But yeah, the X220t's (and by extension X230t's) digitiser has this issue where the pen cursor goes spastic around the edges of the screen, especially the bottom edge. That and the aspect ratio isn't drawfag friendly I find
>>54502739
mdr-v6/7506
>>54508364
Yes.
You can even charge the new thinkpads with the rectangular plug with the old chargers, if you get an adapter. Currently having my X1 on some old 90W charger, that came with my X61, because one of the previous owners probably switched power bricks for whatever reason.
Anybody running Qubes OS on your X220?
>>54509232
I picked up a t420 with 8GB RAM for $190. Gonna put an SSD in it for boot. Use a GB of RAM for a browser cache RAMDisk. Should make it pretty snappy
>An aftermarket Quad Core i7 CPU will work in a T420, but they do not come as standard on any T420.
I can put one in my normal t420? How so?
>>54510107
Just take the heatsink off and pop an i7-2720qm in. Should wirk just fine. However the t420 was never meant to handle the TDP of the i7 so it will run pretty hot and will likely even thermal throttle itself to avoid doing damage.
>>54509484
did you try the usb slot on the right?
>>54510227
I tested all of them, just to make sure.
Anyone with a T460 here?
I want to get one but I'm afraid of the screen, it's supposedly not the brightest and the colors are dull. Is it really that bad?
>>54510508
>nuthinkpad
Oh boy
Does anyone have experience with T420 hinges? Do you need to buy replacement ones after they have loosened or can you tighten them with a screw?
>>54510508
buy a dell latitude if you want a decent panel
![IBM%20Trackpoint%20Soft%20Rim%20163[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/R3JkhDk.jpg "IBM%20Trackpoint%20Soft%20Rim%20163[1].jpg")
Damn, all these years wasted on the mediocre soft dome, which loses its texture after 1 month of use.
It's extremely comfortable to just press on the edges for scrolling.
Which has the better display?
X220 or T420?
>>54510796
they're both mediocre, but one is bigger, and the other has better replacements.
>>54510796
x220 has ips, t420 is a higher resolution.
>>54510796
t420s can get a 1080 screen mod
>>54510763
using soft rim right now. If it wasn't for the fact that classic dome wears out so fast and its hard to find bulk replacements i would be using it instead. Soft rim could do with more grip though, thinking of gluing some sand or something into it.
>>54510796
X220 has 1366x768 TN which is meh, but with the IPS upgrade will have better colors and viewing angle.
T420 also has a regular 1366x768 but also has the optional 1600x900 screen. But it's neither are IPS.
Finally you can mod the t420 with other screens if you're a DIY sort.
>>54510508
>>54510522
I dont have the T460, only the X1Cm but from what I have seen and read, the screen in the nuthinkpads are generally quite the improvement compared to the old ones (if you ignore the shit 16:9 aspect ration).
Which is to say:
they are only shitty, not totally shitty.
>>54510823
>>54510829
>>54510845
>>54510863
Are there any models outside of the X and T line that won't make me compromise between panel and resolution? Or am I dreaming?
>>54511093
It's the rest of the build quality that was my concern desu senpai.
>>54511139
Depends on your price range. W530 maybe
>>54510763
master race coming through…
>MFW I bough a whole bag of those, and only realized that the new chinkpads need a special one, after the time to send them back was over
And those fuckers are a bitch to properly cut to size.
>>54511189
where did you get them from?
>>54511152
Havent dropped it from my desk yet, and I also havent flooded it yet, but so far, the built quality (as in how big are the openings between two pieces of plastic, how much this-is-all-one-solid-piece it feels and how much flex there is) seems mostly even better than on my X200! Compared to my X61 or some even older models, I am not so sure…
And the new hinges, while still miles better than anything in best buy, are much more wobbly than the old hinges.
And of course the missing clamshell…
Who thought that was a good idea?
I am always getting dirt and dust into the machine when transporting it, and without any hooks, the lid isnt staying as closed as I would want it to.
But all in all, its quite OK.
But as soon as those crazy chinks manage to bring out something affordable and dependable, I am going to reactivate my X61. 14" is way to big to lug around daily.
>>54511237
nbwn.de
But its only soft rim and classic dome, since they only ship their stuff with soft dome preinstalled, and sell the others in 5 or 10 piece bags.
>>54511321
thats exactly what i want anyway, soft dome is trash and classic dome is where its at, with soft rim in second place.
Hey! Can i install Ubuntu 14.04 in a thinkpad ibm 600???
Anyone running arch Linux on a t420? Looking to get more into linux and unix-like OSs and the t420 looks cheap and capable
>>54511556
there's a bunch of idiots around, yes
>>54511571
I'm just looking for something cheap and portable that runs Linux without significant hardware conflicts.
>>54503665
X301 is alright with a lighter distro, but not the best.
does a dell vostro 500 count?
My t530 will be arriving today. Should I try out Debian?
>>54511742
Specs on the t530? Been debating one myself but not sure I can dewan with the 15" footprint
How many girls have you had type on your keyboard? I just had a Mac grill type on mines and one of her hairs fell on it uguuu.
>>54511617
>runs Linux without significant hardware conflicts
>arch
Oh man, that's a good one. You got a sensible chuckle out of me.
>>54511809
*can deal with
>>54511830
>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T420
>>54511830
T420 runs arch flawlessly. I actually get better battery life on arch than on Windows.
quad core t430 >>>>>>> shit > other thinkpads
>>54511967
>That keyboard
No thank you.
Nice specs though dude.
>>54498306
>>>>>>r9k
>>54511809
i5, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD. I don't know which screen out has but for the price I don't care what it's got.
>>54511967
Costs double what I paid for my T420.
I have my desktop at home for my primary use, no need for a quad core or the NVS 5400m.
That'd make a decent poor student laptop though
>>54500606
The i7-2640M in my X220 does the same. I have a new full copper cooler in the mail.
>>54511967
I hope that's not your only PC since it's still rather slow compared to my desktop
I only have a ThinkPad because it's the best price and quality and does everything I need it to do (which isn't much more than typing and browsing the web desu) and occasionally compile something
>>54512030
>what is eGPU
i7-3630qm is as fast as i7-2600k. With eGPU it's enough to handle any gaym I could think of.
>>54512335
>quad core ivy bridge
>slow
Yeah, because you need at least i7-6700k to browse the internet and handle virtual machines. Good goy!
