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Help me anons,
Pic related, should I buy a T420 or a X220? Both of them are around 270$.
>>54453650
t420: Bigger screen
x220: Lightweight
They're both the same in other aspects, so you need to decide what you want based on those differences.
>>54453684
I know that. Isn't 12.5" too small for 768p? Don't know if it is comfortable enought to work.
>>54453763
It's not really good for work.
Get the T420.
X220 is nice for shitposting and watching videos.
Also next time >>>/g/tpg
>>54453650
>$270
overpriced if that is superior american currency.
>>54453763
768p a shit
I own an x220 and while working I use another screen (1080p) via displayport. Get the t420 if you want a laptop that does everything right. It's heavy af tho
>>54453650
I assume they are the I7 versions for $270.
The I5 versions are $190-220 here IN MEXICO.
>>54453650
t420
>>54454437
Also get the T420 900p.
If you are going to carry it around everywhere and school, get the x220.
>>54454437
Build wall Paco.
>>54454620
Trump supporter here. Lay off in /g/ help threads.
>>54453854
>>>54453763
>768p a shit
>I own an x220 and while working I use another screen (1080p) via displayport. Get the t420 if you want a laptop that does everything right. It's heavy af tho
Hello Manlet
>>54453650
x220 no doubt my man
>>54454620
And the wall will be built meanwhile you get rid of NAFTA.
i got the x220, i wanted something smaller and didnt need an optical drive
T420 is the patrician laptop of choice
>>54454903
x220*
>>54453763
>Isn't 12.5" too small for 768p
It's alright, if anything I wouldn't mind a higher res screen (X230 here).
I'd say go for X220 if you really need an actual portable laptop, as in carry it around on a daily basis, otherwise physical screen size might be a tad too small for everyday use
I got the T420, my brother got the X220, the T420 is better IMO, I swapped out the optical drive for a HDD and used the existing SSD. Fingerprint reader is great because I don't have to input my long as fuck password every time I want to sudo.
The screen on the X220 is a little small for doing much past a single web browser window or a single word processor.
There isn't much of a difference in weight either.
I'd go the T420 all the way.
>>54453650
that off center screen drives me nuts
Can you panel swap a T430/T420 with an IPS panel?
I know you can with a X230/X220 pretty easily.
>>54453763
I mean 768p is a shit tier resolution, but the small display size makes it more bearable.
If it means anything to you, when I first used my X220, I was pretty amazed at how clear everything looked despite the resolution. But then again that's probably because I've only used 768p laptops with larger displays all my life, so the X220's display has the highest pixel density I've seen.
>>54453802
best advice unless you're more likely to take this think on and off the airport or train frequently
>>54455159
>T420 owner trying to justify an inferior machine that doesn't know what it wants to be
Thinklets, when will they ever learn ?
>>54455427
The only difference is screen size and weight, its not really that different.
>>54455427
This post makes the least sense of all the posts I've ever seen. In no way is the T420 inferior, it's got the same guts as the X220 with a bigger screen and more expansion.
>>54455449
the T420 has a shit standard screen and the battery life can be limited because of the shit you put on it
but like other ppl said you can swap the dvd drive for another battery pack
it is inertially heavy if you take in on an airplane bag, but its perfect for work, and extremely durable, and versatile in work situations
when i travel i switch to an X201T, but at work i use the T420
>>54455488
What's this about a DVD drive battery pack? I use my T420 for around 8 hours a day and it's a pain having to find a charging socket throughout the day.
Luckily I managed to get the HD+ screen without the seller realising it.
Are there any small thinkpads that are good for gaming? Nothing too intense just some light games for while I'm in the back of a plane or something.
>>54455522
Not really, unless the games you play only need a G2 IGPU.
>>54455522
Not really the only Thinkpads with GPUs tend to be the W series, which are fuckhueg and have shitty battery life.
>>54455511
its a "3-cell" -- you can find peoples' reviews on thinkpad forums
they range in price from $40 to $120
>>54455433
No, the difference is that T420 compromises on EVERYTHING. Everything about the T420 is a tradeoff for something else. Everything is that sad middle ground that doesn't know what it's trying to appeal to.
X220 is a small lightweight laptop. Its resolution is small, but it fits the size. It is significantly smaller and lighter than its bigger brothers. The tablet version is also a thing.
T420s is a thin and light normal sized laptop. It also weighs a notable amount less than its bigger brothers. Is has the same god awful screens as T420 does, but it still brings something to the table being thin and light with a large screen with a decent resolution.
Now the T520 is a more normal size. This machine is fit to take a quadcore CPU, which is an advantage even with a dualcore CPU thanks to the better thermals. With a dualcore, you're seeing desktop-tier temperatures on this one. It's a bit on the heavy side, at around 2.5kg, much like you would expect from a 15.6" laptop.
When it comes to its screen, it shares the same panels as its workstation twin, the W520, meaning that with the 900p option you get what you would expect from a decent TN desktop panel, and with the 1080p option you get a near-IPS quality display. Still TN, but a damn good one.
But then what about the T420 ? It weighs about 200g less than the T520. Above 2kg this is nothing. The best goddamn screen it offers has been measured to a 150:1 contrast ratio. It's only a couple cm smaller than a T520 on width/height, and it doesn't have the same options for higher specs as the T520 does, nor does it have a heatsink meant for a quadcore CPU.
So what does T420 bring to the table ? Nothing. Nada. It doesn't appeal to anyone. It's a cheap machine made with cheap parts, and corporations ate them raw because of the price. And because corporations ate them raw, the used market is fucking flooded with these mediocre-at-best machines that don't really do anything as well as their brothers.
>>54455565
i think the 420s has a few less ports or variety of ports, yes?
and the 420 has better battery life or adaptability for battery add on
420s would be better for traveling
>>54455679
The point is that T420s makes sense. It's a thin and light 14" laptop, and it accomplishes that.
On the other hand, if you're considering picking up a T420, there is no reason not to get a T520 instead. There are no valid arguments to choose a T420 over a T520. It's not notably lighter, it's insignificantly smaller, its screen fucking sucks (as does the T420s, same panels), it doesn't have much better battery life, it doesn't have the same potential specs from the factory, and the list goes on.
There are reasons to choose a T420s, there are reasons to choose an X220, and there are plenty of reasons to choose a T520 or W520.
But the T420 has absolutely nothing going for it compared to all the others.
>>54455740
Price maybe?
>>54455779
Same up some more allowance you poor sack of shit.
>>54455792
Save, even
>>54455740
I actually got a T420S for my kid because he has to fly often to get to college and back. It's very nice.
The only reason I wouldn't get a T5x0 is because they're really huge as fuck. They don't fit that well in my work bag. The literal brick-tops of old, like a Warhammer. Otherwise they're great, almost too much power.
>>54455779
The good used resellers sell T520 and T420 units with some overlap in the price depending on which company is dumping how many units of which at the time of sale.
>>54453650
x220
>better IPS screen
>same performance, unless you choose the t420 housefire edition
-better battery life
>much more mobile
>works better with 65W PSU
>>54455488
Is it possible to change the screen?
>>54456381
I think so, but you have to check the thinkpad forums. Some techs you can pay to do the work for you.
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>>54455822
>The only reason I wouldn't get a T5x0 is because they're really huge as fuck.
They're not that big. Here's a T520 with a cat for size.
>>54455367
Yes you can swap it. No big deal at all.
>>54453763
are you blind or something?
even 1440x900 is fine on a 12/13" screen
Doesn't the X220 wight like 4 LBS isn't that quite a bit for a laptop that small?
>>54453650
T420s with 1600x900 ips screen.
You won't regret it.
>>54456598
Aren't these just 15 inch laptops, just like normal ones?
>>54457316
Yes, that's exactly what they are. Thinkpad naming scheme is simple: The letter in front is the series, first number is size, second number is generation, third number is usually a 0, optional suffix to note slim/performance/tablet laptops
So T520: T series, 15.6", 2nd generation Intel Core i5/7 (Sandy Bridge)
>>54453650
I got an x220 the other day but I already have two other laptops. I only got it cause it's portable and I can program on it whenever I go out. If portability is important then X220.
x220 with extended 9 cell battery aswell as this shit
http://www.amazon.com/Thinkpad-Battery-19-Cell-Slice/dp/B004UC59Q4
as a primary computer any good?
Also, does it support Debian good? I'd dual boot Winshit 8.1 and Deb
>>54457273
Don't listen to this man the size difference isn't much and the t420s has a cucked battery
How is the 1900x600 Intel HD Display compared to the 1366x768? What are the reasons for choosing one over the other? Can the former play 720p HD video content?
>>54453650
pic related is a w500 you fucking moron
>>54457273
They werent IPS screens, and they had heat issues
>>54459101
>will 1280x720p play on a 1600x900 screen
Really
Also these generation thinkpads had fucking awful screens. The 1600x900 was a good improvement over the 1366x768. Was still a mediocre screen, but well worth the extra money.
They fucked us. People asked for years to get the IPS screens back. They only brought in 1080 IPS screens after they had removed the original keyboard. I guess they figured someone who wanted a nice screen enough will get over fucking them in the ass with the keyboard.
>>54458665
>the size difference isn't much
The size difference is more than T420 vs T520, and then T420 has a cucked screen, heatsink, and practically everything else
>>54459419
Spoken just like someone who has literally never touched these in real life.
The t520 feels huge in comparison to the T420, and if you peek inside the T520 you realize there is a lot of empty room because they used identical hardware
Funnily enough, the T520 had some really bad panel issues at launch, and the T420 had far superior screens for the first like 6 months.
The S is marginally lighter and thinner, but not worth it to have a shittier battery, especially when gets even hotter than the regular 420.
And to compare the size difference to the T520 is plain wrong.
>>54453650
As long as you get one with a decent resolution either is fine.
I made the mistake of getting an X220 Tablet, which only comes with a 1366x768 screen, and I regret it every time I use it.
The portability is nice though.
>>54459408
>>will 1280x720p play on a 1600x900 screen
>Really
There was an error in the listing, with it stating the resolution as 1900x600, which had me wondering.
I was thinking of buying a t420 for school since I'm going to be starting in august.
Why is everyone saying the screen is so shit?
I'm only going to be using it for web browsing and word processing, so viewing angles/color accuracy isn't very important to me.
Is the t420 a good deal for like $220?
I got an x220 on ebay last summer for school. I've never had a t420 so I can't compare but I love my x220. I think the general consensus is if you carry it around a lot, get the x220. But i'm sure you'll be happy either way.
>>54458609
get x230
>>54461018
the screen of the T410 and T420 have, like, this shitty contrast, and it can really be viewed well at a certain angle with only 10 degrees leeway -- if you have any glare from lights or direct sun, its hard to read -- not a problem usually in a business office
if youre gonna carry the thing around, the X220 is better like other anons have said, because more portable, and the screen is better
im not knocking the T420 - its a solid machine - but id hate to transport that fucker around from class to class, and to try to use it outdoors
>>54455427
14' laptops are objectively better than 12' ones. Less heat problems, easier disassembly, still portable, better keyboard, better screen, better everything really.
I fell for 12' chinkpad once and I'm not doing it again.
>>54453650
I bought my memescreen 420 for $100
