![geforce-gtx-1080-3qtr-front-left[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qmmLIiG.jpg "geforce-gtx-1080-3qtr-front-left[1].jpg")
http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2427-difference-between-gtx-1080-founders-edition-and-reference
>Every single instance of “Founder's Edition” can be replaced with the word “Reference,” using previous-gen nomenclature. There is not one difference in its market positioning. They are synonymous. NVidia has replaced its “Reference” name with “Founder's Edition.”
>There are not two GTX 1080 models made by nVidia. Only the “Founder's Edition” exists; there is not a cheaper card made by nVidia than the $700 Founder's Edition, which ships first.
>The “Founder's Edition” is not specially binned.
>The “Founder's Edition” is not pre-overclocked.
>The “Founder's Edition” uses the new reference cooler. The cooler is more-or-less identical to the previous reference models.
>This card is not "limited edition," despite its name that would indicate as much, and will run production through the life of the GTX 1080 product line.
>FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This your first time using graphics cards?
The most expensive shit always comes out first
>>54452220
>implying nvidia didn't try to make people think the cards were $100 cheaper than they actually are
>>54452193
That's fucked.
I get the premium if they're including the backplate and metal cooler shroud, but the misleading branding is horse shit. Typical for nVidia though.
>>54452193
980ti
8
0
t
i
i don't worry about new shit because i have the best card
>>54452410
Nvidia survives and thrives on misleading branding and advertising.
it's unbelievable how many people are so easily fooled by nvidias announcement, on so many levels - this one was just one of them.
the other one is that people are so excited about a paper launch.
>>54452220
That's not true at all. Udually the highend versions come last.
As far as we know there are zero $599 cards unless a board partner decides to charge less than Nvidia. This is pretty fucked up for Nvidia to mislead people like this.
So same price and performance of an OC 980 Ti then. I think I'm skipping this one for the 1080 Ti.
So, if you want one of Nvidia's standard coolers, you'll pay extra for it?
And if you buy a card from a 3rd party vendor, you'll get their cooling solution, custom PCB and better overclocking while paying less?
Is that what I'm understanding? What makes paying the premium worth it?
>>54452539
that's just so fucking false it's hilarious
>>54452611
Nvidias shroud is metal so you'd have to care about materials.
>>54452611
You can actually buy it since there won't be any custom designs for months
>>54452595
Nigger they said it was significantly faster
We'll see what 'significantly' means when reviews go live.
Apparently tech reviewers at the event got sent home with cards so they'll probably have videos go up soon
>>54452193
980 was 550 at launch, what are you getting at?
>>54452619
Buy a 1080 for 599 at launch then. Prove me wrong.
>>54452193
>SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS
fix'ed
>>54452631
So when the cards launch it will only be the more expensive reference models available?
>>54452645
was already planning on it :^)
>>54452648
yep
>>54452611
That's how it went with the 980 ti. The reference cards more or less stayed at the msrp of $650 while quieter cooler running custom non-reference cards sold for $50~$100 less.
And as usual amd apologist try to spin it the other way around.
>>54452632
It will be their shill reviewers though like James 2centz or whatever.
>>54452665
How is he a shill?
>>54452663
That never happened. There were no $500 980 Ti's.
>>54452676
I was just going to ask the same thing, the dude did an APU build and showered AMD with tons of praise.
>>54452704
He also ran an AMD build for a long ass time before finally upgrading to Intel when the performance gains became necessary
>>54452648
I'm sure you can put in an order for 10,000 units and they will give you the big discount that the non reference card sellers get and you can come up with your own cooling regime and and overclocking firmware. shit will be so cash
>>54452692
nice reading comprehension
you have to be 21 years old and under to fall for nvidias marketing and trickery
the pc tard race is full of idiots
Who cares.
I'm worried about nvidia sending the cards home with reviewers after showering them with gifts and a fucking ranch vacation.
When people are given the item they review for free, they're more likely to spin it in a positive light. I'll wait for people who didn't get free samples to review it.
>>54452902
The majority of people who review stuff professionally get it for free
When AMD launches their cards they'll most likely throw a huge spread as well and invite people to come party.
>>54452922
amd cant afford to pay shills
>>54452665
kek
Jay is many things, but he isn't a shill. Although...
>>54452902
This is absolutely on point. They got an all expenses paid vacation and a free top-end (likely binned) video card. That can color basically anyone's opinion. I'll be more interested in the 3rd party vendor's cards and how they end up running performance-wise against retail examples of the Founders edition card.
>>54452902
Nah, people give positive reviews because nvidia can effectively deny people cards if they felt like it and if you are a reviewer professionally, you would be screwed.
AMD isn't in the same position because even if you don't get some AMD cards, you can still just write nvidia reviews and still get tonnes of nvidia fanboys to follow you because there is so many of them.
>>54452193
gtx 660 all over again?
Reminder amd lied through their teeth about overclockers dream when you couldn't oc at all. They all do it. It does rub me the wrong way though.
>>54452451
You mean last year you had the best card
>>54452977
http://www.kitguru.net/site-news/announcements/zardon/amd-withdraw-kitguru-fury-x-sample-over-negative-content/
http://www.eteknix.com/things-go-from-bad-to-worse-for-reviews-of-amd-radeon-fury-x/
>amd are the good guys, i-i swear!
>>54452193
I for one look forward to Nvidia being more and more audacious. It's interesting to see just how deep the throats of their consumers go.
>>54452974
Watch the vlogs that are going up
It's sickening at how much they are buttering up the reviewers
>free plane ticket in 1st class
>free luxury hotel room
>free steak dinners and custom omelet bars
>free booze
>horseback riding, skeet shooting, wine tasting and poker tournaments at a private Texas ranch
>get sent home with free top of the line gpus and probably a couple hundred dollar bills in their back pockets with a wink as they left
But oh no, we'll definitely be objective and point out any flaws during our review sponsored by EVGA
>>54453047
Custom omelettes? Damn
>>54452922
I'm of the belief that businesses should be expected to eat the cost of whatever they use to conduct business.
If you're business is to review hardware, go buy the fucking hardware.
I hate "professional" reviewers in any capacity. They're just paid shills 99% of the time.
>>54453023
Yep, AMD can deny cards and the reviews trash AMD and make a fuss, Nvidia didn't give out a single Titan Z for review and everyone is hush hush and try to not piss nvidia off.
>>54453047
Did you not read my post? That's exactly what I said.
>>54453074
I know, and I'm agreeing with you
>>54453047
anybody in their right mind would be positive about nvidia after all that
it's human nature, nvidia must really hire psychologists and shill experts
i'm pretty sure nvidia also paid people to cheer and yell during the livestream when they announced the cards
if you rewatch the stream you can hear people yelling and cheering at ridiculous things such as the price tag announcement, a girl was like "OMG YEAHHH OMG!!!" like really?
>>54453071
There are good ones like Kitguru who will just say the cards are bad even if it makes companies MAD.
>>54453090
I think those shouters were plants too. But sometimes nerds can't control themselves.
>>54453072
not giving anyone a review sample and only giving certain favorable sites a review copy are totally different. amd didn't give any sites the fury x2 either i believe.
also amd have actually BANNED these review sites from review copies and they're also banned from any future amd event. nvidia blacklist reviewers and totally ignore them when they give their feedback but they don't explicitly ban them from everything. everyone who has shitted on nvidia has received a review copy eventually, even if it was months later.
>>54453082
My bad. Sarcasm detector isn't on point today.
Awesomesauce drank the whole trip and bailed on most of the shit aside from the actual reveal conference. I'm looking forward to his review video, though he's not my favorite and I have no idea how biased he is one way or the other.
Also interesting that they sent Luke from LTT. Possible that it'll be a less biased review when Linus gets his mits on the review sample.
>>54453093
KitGuru is another one I'm looking forward to. They have a zero-fucks mentality when it comes to reviewing product that I greatly appreciate.
>>54452469
And the fact that they're better at it than AMD.
>>54453127
>everyone who has shitted on nvidia has received a review copy eventually, even if it was months later.
LOL like anyone cares about months later
So the founders edition is just a lube me up and fuck me card? Sounds perfect for all the nvidia fan bois. The presentation was terrible with apple tier graphs. Overall it was a wow fucken nothing presentation, at least the cards are good for the price point not the overpriced shit they always do.
>>54453183
that's the point. they receive a review sample eventually but the whole point here is that they're not being perma banned from samples.
>>54452636
What we're getting at is there will not be a $599 1080 for sale, definitely not at launch and definitely not until Vega or the 1080ti are out, and you can likely expect to find 1080s for sale from third party vendors at $650-$670
>>54453144
Luke's so dreamy. Their reviews are shit though. It's like watching normies play computers.
>>54453206
It's actually worse than that. The founders card is literally the only card.
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>54453384
they can and will
>>54453384
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ means yes, they most certainly can.
>>54453384
what are they getting away with?
>>54453435
Making money while AMD doesn't.
>>54453435
Misleading consumers. I've got to hand it to them though, everyone thinks it's a $599 card that was critical for a positive reception. It's fascinating watching this Huang operate. Better than any business course.
>>54453460
kek
>>54453515
really?!
Implying AMD doesn't do the same.
>>54453685
>its ok when nvidia does it
>>54452193
This just in, nvidiots are the retard!
>>54453435
Making cards that get beat at all price points by AMD yet still selling more
>>54453816
who said that even?
>>54453816
It is.
Its called having good PR.
/g/ and AMDcucks demonstrating once again how retarded they are.
Reference cards are always more expensive than aftermarket cards.
This is nothing new, try finding a reference GTX970/980 and look at the price.
>>54453869
people who bring up AMD to defend nvidia's wrong doings
>>54454046
>Reference cards are always more expensive than aftermarket cards.
So, 1070s in SLI or single 1080?
>>54454320
>getting two 7.5gb meme cards
What does founders mean anyway?
>>54454421
Nvidia marketing term for reference design
>>54454046
We know that, retard. Try reading OP and try again.
>>54454421
Absolutely nothing, amazingly.
>>54454320
>buying nvidia ever
Wait so nvidia are making people pay $100+ for a fucking reference card?
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>54454635
It's not a 'reference' card in the sense it's a stock model. The new 'reference' cards will be high quality and high binned chips. There will probably be vendor partners with cheaper cards that have the low binned chips. It's a pretty good idea imo. I like the new look of the reference cards and I'll be picking one up for a mini itx build in December just because of that blower design.
>>54454709
Just to clarify. There are several different youtubers who are saying the opposite of op's post. Saying mostly what I just said.
>>54454709
>>54454813
lol, you are a delusional faggot
So when can we expect to get the non reference 1070/1080?
>>54455244
2017
>>54455258
Be srs pls
>>54455271
July obviously at the latest
>>54452193
so the bait and switch is just for people who spend extra preordering the founders edition?
People thought they were getting something better? I thought it was just common knowledge that you're paying a premium just to have it early
how can anyone be mad at this?
>>54455355
you are paying a premium to have it at all when the card is supposed to be "released"
>>54455395
oh, so is that what I'm missing?
That there is no set release date for the card, sans founder edition, at all? What a fucking joke, that's hilarious
what about the 1070?
>>54455418
same story
>>54455468
top fucking kek
So Nvidia only won the press conference... I guess AMD still has a chance
So is the 1070 really $379 or was that bullshit too?
>>54455512
The "founders editions" is $450. I'm assuming the other vendors will be around $379.
Nvidiots BTFO, holy shit.
I thought op was blowing shit out of proportion, but Jesus Christ.
I'm salty FOR Nvidia lovers
>>54453177
kekles
>>54455512
its 450 until custom cards are out which will be a longggg time because designs take time. It took like 4 months before the first 28nm cards got aftermarket coolers.
>what is marketing and non reference cards
oh wait its just another shit flinging thread
>>54455589
How is anyone BTFO by anything? I'll still be buying mine from a vendor at $379. This doesn't affect most people. Very few people even buy reference cards anymore. They're probably selling this at a slightly higher price because they want to actually make a profit on these reference cards unlike the norm where they just about break even on these.
>>54455717
>$379 plus cost of cooler, profit margin, and pre oc
FTFY
>>54455717
the $379 card doesn't have a release date so good luck with that
>>54455717
>his face when he ends up buying a 1070 for $500 after taxes, anyway and defending his purchase
>>54454813
>>54454709
DENIAL
E
N
I
A
L
Wait, so Nvidia doesn't have a new card under the $450 price range? What the hell are they thinking.
>>54455687
Fucking hell this annoying. I'm going to build a PC soon. I wanted to buy something this summer. Why doesnt Nvidia work with the other vendors during the design process on the cooling and shit so that they can all launch at the same time? I'll probably just get one of the next AMD GPUs because I'm really looking for something that would be one tier below the 1070 anyways.
>>54452532
Welcome to /g/, where paper launches happen on any day ending in 'y'.
Also, availability in the same month as launch is barely a paper launch anymore. And it's sad that I just wrote that.
>>54453047
This is why I like hardocp. You could be giving Kyle a bj while he types up the review and he'd still call shit shit.
>>54452539
generally the ti versions come last, bait harder friend.
Nvidia and Jewtel wouldn't be able to pull this bullshit if amd were to pull its head out of its own asshole.
Get well soon ;_;
>>54455901
Well, AMD is killing the MOAR CORES meme on the next architecture and delivering what looks to be a par with intel performance with a bit of brute force.
>>54455977
"Moar cores" is still their approach, they're just recognizing that there's a certain single core bar they need to reach.
>>54456003
They went from batshit insane moarcoring to intel level of moarcoring.
The excavator/bulldozer architecture was about recycling as much as possible from the CPU to shove moarcores (stuff on the left), where they shoved 8 pipelines, an anemic 128bit FPU and splitted it in two cores with a shared weak sauce FPU.
New stuff use 6 pipelines (to match the 4 intel pipelines) and a beefy FPU that only one core use.
>>54456091
Oh yeah, they're definitely going about it more intelligently this time. No doubt about that. But they still very much intend to build CPUs with lots of cores as a standard. Allegedly they want to make the future of GPUs "more GPUs" as well.
>>54455805
That you'll go be poor somewhere else. Honestly though they probably got together with AMD and said this is stupid, you guys do low-lowmid and we'll do highmid-high.
>>54456151
Well, with GPUs at least that works.
I think a good approach would be a "D&D" like approach, with some specialized cores meant to deal with specific tasks, like having a "dwarf core", as in a core that only have like 4-5 stages and runs at half of the main CPU clock, but gets tossed to solve stallfests.
>>54456185
Well it "works" with GPUs, but that's one of the things vulkan is supposed to alleviate.
I'm not too sure about specialized cores but I could see the desktop adopting the "BigLittle" structure from phones. Two beefy cores for legacy + X amount of small cores for performance in applications that scale worth a damn.
>>54455772
can't wait till AMD releases their cards for $300 and btfo the nvidiot "founders"
>>54452451
Until a driver gimps your card or just wrecks it.
Why does the GTX 1080 not have HBM2, and why does it not matter?
>>54456517
Yields aren't high enough
>>54456517
>HBM2
Wait until 2017 :^)
>>54456517
because there's not enough HBM2 to actually put in products yet, and it does matter, but not on a market level until Vega hits with the successor to the Fury X.
>>54456517
Memory bandwidth has never been an issue. You are being memed by AMD.
>>54452193
Oh wow, that was really confusing.
/v/thread/336965507
Have you ever seen a bigger bunch of retards in your life.
>>54456954
>going on /v/ ever
>>54452611
Founder edition is the only thing launching. The nonreference cards have no release date.
>>54456984
There's a fucking guy trying to convince the whole thread you can build a 300w pc with high end components. That board hurts my head, I swear.
I really hope the board partner cards have more than a single 8-pin. The card has a higher listed TDP than a 970 and some of them come with 2x8-pin because they can draw a shit load of power. I highly recommend avoiding the flounders edition for this reason (you will probably power throttle).
>>54457040
I'm going to be honest and say that I found that thread too
They think TDP directly relates to power draw in watts
>>54452193
Anybody with half a brain knew that it was just an early adopter tax. I guess that does rule out most gaymers.
>Talking with ancaps/lolbertarians
>"All monopolies are just government created, it's impossible for a monopoly in a free market"
>Nvidia is the shadiest as fuck, anti-consumer video card producer yet dominates the market to near monopoly levels and AMD has been BTFO'ed the video card market with a rapidly dwindling consumer base and their new strategy isn't even to really compete in enthusiast/gamer markets anymore
>"But but only government created monopoly, muh free market, muh rational consumer!"
The only thing Nvidia has given me over the years is a way to BTFO austrians and general econ fetishists with their bullshit market worship. Nvidia is perfect proof you can absolutely fuck a consumer in the ass non stop and brand loyalty, marketing and brand awareness is all you need to dominate an entire industry.
It's sad AMD have basically given up the ghost.
>>54457040
>implying you can't.
i bet you think you need a 1000W psu for your gtx980
>>54454320
I remember when you fags were convinced 2 gtx 970s were a better deal than 1 gtx 980.
>>54457077
Man, that guy is trying so hard to convince everyone. It's got to a point where he's taking it personally. I didn't even know you can still buy 300w power supplies.
>>54457094
Oh god they're leaking
No, you don't need a 1000W psu for a 980, but a 500-600W one will do fine, allow for overclocking head room, and run in the most efficient part of the power curve
Now fuck off back to your containment board
>>54457094
I have a 620w psu to accommodate for my 980@1450 and my [email protected]
>>54452193
>3.5 worked guys
>rev up those apple and sonytv tactics
But seriously, they probably trying not to lose money on those monster 320mm2 dies.
>>54455805
This is how Nvidia launches have always been buddy.
X70 and X80, then X60 and X50. Later on you'll get an X80ti or a Titan.
>>54455805
>Wait, so Nvidia doesn't have a new card under the $450 price range? What the hell are they thinking.
1070 will be priced under 400$
>>54457158
>>54457158
>>54457158
THE BEACONS ARE LIT
>>54452757
>10k
Probably more like 100k
In going to be building my first pc from scratch in about two months, I was wondering, what's the best gpu between 200-400$
Also, when the pascals are released, will the 970, etc. drop in price
>>54457169
Did you read the OP?
>>54457183
Fuck off tripnigger
>>54452193
This is why I try to only support AMD
>>54452451
Until you turn on DX12
>>54457189
There's literally no reason to buy a Maxwell gpu any more
Spend $380 on a 1070 and fuck off
>>54452193
>Irrelevant site suddenly the first to learn secret news about incredibly popular card
woooooowww
>>54454320
Neither, do you even have a 4k display ?
>>54457257
Here's a direct quote from the main guy behind the site
"[5/8/2016 5:27:08 PM] Steve Burke: NVidia is only making one reference card, and that card is called the Founders Edition
[5/8/2016 5:27:17 PM] Steve Burke: there is no other 1080 :)
[5/8/2016 5:27:46 PM] Steve Burke: They were very unclear in that presentation. We spoke to them after (see article/video I just put up), but the gist of it is that the $600 MSRP is the bottom-line entry-to-market price for board partners like EVGA/ASUS/MSI.
[5/8/2016 5:28:00 PM] Steve Burke: The $700 price is the nVidia reference card, which is called "Founders Edition." There is only one card made by nVidia."
>>54457257
He's actually pretty on this shit.
>>54457257
>https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/05/06/geforce-gtx-1080/
>“Founders Edition,” available June 10 for $449, and custom boards from partners expected to start at $379.
Straight from the horse's mouth. There is no reference $379 model. Just the vague promise that someone is going to make a non-reference cooler that's somehow $70 cheaper than the blower reference design.
>>54457289
so they want 100$ for the cooler
then it is up to third parties how they want to handle their income
>>54452193
NVIDIA IS KILL
http://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/ladders/benchmark/overall/Medium_1080p?viewType=myself
>>54457246
i'm more of a fuck on person to be honest senpai.
>>54457479
>Pascal has no a-sync support
it's literally over if polaris is at all decent
>>54457087
Nvidia isn't even close to a monopoly dude.
They just do pretty good in a niche part of the high end gpu market. AMD and Intel dominate the far larger APU market, by far.
But hey
>muh lolbertarians ecks dee
>>54457479
Same as a Pro Duo that is $1500?
>>54457479
A game built for AMD runs good on AMD? Shocking.
The more important question now is: will AMD undercut Nvidia with 490/490x at $320/400 at maybe 5% performance less and proper partner cards out of box. I want to believe.
>>54457246
>thinking you can have a 1070 for $380
You're gonna have a bad time
>>54457512
I'd imagine there's a CPU bottleneck for most of those, otherwise why would a 290 be at the top?
>>54457509
>tfw rumours are placing the low end polaris at 390x performance and the high end at fury x
>These were supposed to be about $200 and $300 respectively
>If pascal actually blows this hard they're going to sell them at a higher price
Fug
>>54457523
Why can't games be built for both...i just wanna play video games with little to no problems. Probably asking for to much though.
>>54457534
pro duo is not made for games, drivers for it suck
>>54457544
90% of games are built around Nvidia because they dominate the market. So the obvious thing to do would be buy Nvidia.
>>54457541
probably not, it's time to hit the nail in the coffin for market share if they have hardware they say they have they gotta to press on market
they almost do not have driver problems now, they haver perfect chance to lose all hosuefire/driver/powerhungry memes in one go with lower pricing
next gen it is probably business as usual if this works out
>>54457545
Well no but it still performs as well as 2 nanos
>>54457541
They would stay the same because AMD desperately needs to gain market share, that's worth more than short term profit
>>54457559
except that AMD owns the consoles, and the only reason devs would use any gameworks stuff is if nvidia paid them money to implement it, that's part of how gameworks works.
>>54457545
>drivers for it suck
Doesn't need to be said really.
>>54457577
it still stutters as hell if graphs to be believed
drivers are sharpened for specific work, it's niche card not worth mentioning in games context
>>54457611
You can either use the workstation drivers or gaming drivers for it, but ya it is going to have stuttering issues in some games, like any dual GPU set up, AMD cards scale better but the software support isn't there
If you crank up the setting the GTX1080 is getting worse.
>>54457588
>AMD owns the consoles
Lol.
Right where they belong.
>>54457623
Pls stop. AMD literally had a deal with the developers of that game.
>>54457640
that would be fair, if all amd games didn't perform perfectly on nvidia without patches/drivers etc. before dx12 started
the only thing that didn't work without driver update was purehair and it worked fine after that
meanwhile nvidia games perform terribly on anything including nvidia
>>54457623
LOL welp polaris it is
does 1080 have a-sync or not?
>>54457728
No just better software in the driver extentions for software async
>>54452193
Any DX12 benchmarks fir pascal yet?
also DX12 W10 only
>>54457750
You mean it offloads the work to the CPU potentially, that was rumored/mentioned a while ago
>>54457728
We'd have to guess no. That Pelly_NV is Sean Pelletier btw who will probably get fired over this. Huang must be furious.
Maybe he's even an AMD double agent.
>>54457778
If thats true alot of games arnt going to run very well especially if their older Quad Cores with only 4 threads
>>54457782
Kek the skullduggery contiues
>>54457783
just means people with nvidia cards are stuck with DX 11 or DX12 with no A-sync
>>54457728
>>54457246
You'll have to shell out at least $500 for a 1070.
I'll just buy a 490X for $399 which will eat the 1070 for breakfast.
>>54452663
Don't know how the pricing works in land of the free, but where I live, the non-reference cards are always more expensive.
>>54457728
lel
>>54457814
Yes, but is it physical or still software hocus pocus again?
>>54457814
but if that benchmark is real then that basically prove it still doesn't have it
and if it did have it Nvidia would have fucking raved about it and showed off the 1080 running Ashes or Hitman under DX12 with the performance gains AMD current gets potentially
I suspect they're lying and or doing more driver emulation for it
>>54457832
We shall see when the reviews drop
>>54457814
Ambiguous as hell. If Nvidia doesn't explicitly say something it's probably not true.
>>54452193
>guys we need to update our design
>ADD MORE ANGLES
why am I seeing this fucking everywhere?
>>54452193
Can't blame Nvidia for cashing in on suckers who won't do the research first.
guys, how is this
http://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/personas/b1f1beaa-6f5a-40a6-ac83-151b2dc39dbe/match-details/5b962a1c-afd9-41fc-8f08-f09683d104f5
>>54457782
He's going to get Tom'd. Funny he's from marketing.
>>54457839
It's the only logical step after all the material desgin bs
>1080 benchmark in Ashes. +10% over 980 Ti in DX12.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NLBbNBwqxE
NVIDIA BTFO.
>>54457844
how has this game so little fps even on an furyX
game looks like shit
>>54457871
It's CPU bound. These benchmarks don't mean a whole lot.
>>54457871
if I remember right it has more units rendering than 3 total war matches combined
>>54457871
Isn't it still in development? Also probably heavily CPU dependent, his i7 there is only at 4ghz
while this is the top guy
GPU
AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
GPU 2
AMD Radeon R9 200 Series
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5930K CPU @ 3.50GHz
>>54457895
It's fucking huge, I just hope the gameplay is good when it comes out
Wait hold on the aparent 1080 guy has the same CPU, Pascal no A-sync confirmed it got beat by 2 290s
GPU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5930K CPU @ 3.50GHz
>>54457921
it's out
>>54457921
>Got beat by two 290s
Ruh roh
>>54457921
>Isn't it still in development?
It has been out for a month or so.
>>54457888
>>54457895
Game reminds me of Supreme Commander... but kinda less exciting
here is a 4k benchmark everything at max
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE4pyFHlv8o
particles looks like shit, shitty as fuck textures
seems like this game is just shitty programmed
Full image, probably going to turn up fake though
Sure am glad I only buy AMD where possible
>>54457942
>>54457944
Neat I guess, I haven't seen like anyone playing or talking about it
>>54457963
watch>>54457861
>>54457959
With the amount of shit going on there you couldn't have it be in incredibly high detail, that's like Starcraft X 10
>>54455512
379 without taxes and import fees and currency conversion fees and shipping fees. So its like 450
![1422731788610[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/LvKmMq1.gif "1422731788610[1].gif")
>>54456663
gave me a good chuckle, thanks.
>>54457837
nah, if they had async it wouldnt be written ambiguously in font size 6 somewhere where noone reads. They would brag about it everywhere.
>>54452193
>Founder's Edition
Founder's Edition?, no that's is the new name for reference cooler
from what i hear the PR department doesn't like the name Reference Card
its just a name change.
sorry lads.
Tech sites already have the review models. Where are the benchmarks?
>>54459766
Almost certainly embargoed until closer to launch.
>>54452350
you know what price you believe? the one at the checkout.
especially when nvidia's quoted price only applies to a relatively small segment of the market. Who buys a top of the line GPU and gets a reference card? Most people will be getting a 3rd party card which come at different prices and overclocks anyway.
>>54457782
>implying it wasn't done on purpose
>>54457523
>built for AMD
it's built for DX12 not AMD
pascal sucks at dx12 games, mark my words
nvidia is focusing on raw performance power because pascal can't do async compute on hardware
>>54456517
>Why does the GTX 1080 not have HBM2
the gooks choked, delivery slipping to end of year = GP100 early customers literally getting engineering samples
>why does it not matter?
>>>> [imblying]
>>54460312
nice meme retard
>>54459932
>Who buys a top of the line GPU and gets a reference card?
More cucks than you'd expect. Brand whores who want the True Nvidia Experience, people planning SLI setups where blowers are better, people planning to remove the cooler for a water block (reference PCB-compatible blocks always come first), etc.
>>54452220
what? the mid range comes first (or low end like 750 ti) and then the top/high end (titan and then ti)
>>54456498
Nice FUD AMD cuck
>>54452654
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>54456517
HBM2 is overrated, like when you buy RAM, you don't need the fastest RAM because it barely makes any difference whatsoever. it's nice to have, but gtx 1080 shits all over anything amd can come up with anyway
>>54460757
The 1080 is slower than the Pro Duo.
Why are people surprised by the vapor chamber reference cooler used from the gtx 690 to now? In single GPU setups a single blower design will provide better cooling but in multiple GPU setups you'd rather use a reference cooler that exhausts air rather than blowing hot air onto the other GPU.
>>54452193
>the way it's ment to be jewed
>>54460788
>pro duo
more latency because dual gpu, 2.5x the price, 2-3x the power consumption
R9 270x user here, waiting for the high-end 16nm AMD card, it will be out this year right?
>>54461241
shitty ass 256b GDDR5(/X?) will be out at basically the same time as for the 1080/1070 likely under the 480(X)/490(X) names.
HBM2 cards (currently codenamed Vega) won't be out until Q1'17, presumably around the same time that the Titan X/980 Ti-tier Nvidia cards will come out as well.
>>54461285
Well shit, maybe if 490x doesn't suck "That" much I might get that, thanks anon.
My little bro pc blow up (Had my old q9550, hd4870) and I gifted him my now ex-pc (i7 3770, r9 270x) so I build a new one for me but I don't have a gpu yet.
>>54461285
What's wrong with gddr5?
>>54457839
Giving it the edge
>>54457640
what does that even mean though?
AMD doesn't use any proprietary technology or software in their hardware and drivers that NVIDIA doesn't also have access to. when AMD helps a game out all that means is that the game will run well on all hardware.
>>54457888
if it's CPU bound then why does AMD, which has a larger CPU overhead in their drivers, beat nvidia by a hilarious margin?
>>54461172
Only about twice, AMD cards usually have more raw compute performance though, the pro duo is 16 Tflops, still going to be the fastest dual slot card for a while
Since gaming is never going to catch up, one of these cards should last for quite a while barring mechanical failure right?
>>54461449
1080 will have >50% more compute power with ~5% less bandwidth compared to 980Ti because Nvidia moved from 384b@7GHz to 256b@10GHz.
The problem isn't that GDDR5(X) is inherently shit, it's that they cut the bus width by 33% for the products the 1080 is supposed to be a successor to.
480/490(X) are also supposed to be 256b, compared to the 512b@6Hz of the 390X.
Just built a pc newfag here.
I've got a new i7 6700k system with a 620w power supply and the standard z170-a asus mobo.
also a 750Ti borrowed from another computer until i buy my own gpu.
What should i get? Right now I'm considering waiting until reviews come out for the 1070 because 400$ is totally manageable after a month or two. I just dropped like $950 on all my other components though, so if I should get a $600 card (if its even worth it) I'm gonna be waiting a while.
What should I do /g/?
>>54452193
>more or less identical
so why can it be 67 C under load?
>>54461818
Wait of course. Or where you seriously going to buy a fucking reference card?
>>54461818
Wait just how much you need to, not how much someone else tells you. You'll always find "something better around the corner"
Look how many replies already about:
-wait for hbm2
-wait for 1080ti
It's never going to be over
After saying that, if you're comfy with the temporary 750 the only real thing you might want to wait for are benchmarks. That's the only thing that will give you any usefull direction. Once you purchase never ever ever ever come back to graphic cards threads. They will do anything in their power to make you regret it no matter what you bought
Once you know: what's the significant difference between 1070/1080 and once you know what polaris gonna be, chose and never look back
>>54461967
I'm not buying shit until /g/ and /v/ shills the fuck out of the best option for the money. 1070 has me hopeful, but I'm green as fuck when it comes to computer tech. My boss said build a computer for games/ something he can program in sql with.
>>54461982
thank you, this seems like honest guidance.
Will probably go with the best option in July for the $300-450 pricerange after researching benchmarks etc.
>>54462008
Yeah, you'll have to wait anyway. Computex in taipei is end of may to beginning of June where AMD will announce their shit and then add a month or two to get reviews from everywhere for every non-reference card for both AMD and Nvidia and you can make a choice.
>>54456663
>>54456498
This doesn't happen you autist.
>>54453127
Nah theres been a few outright banned from their events, like Demerjian
