Previously on: >>54433478
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>>54441907
Testing it on the most popular distros simply makes the most sense because they are the ones that your potential customers are most likely to be using. You never know when some quirk introduced if the forking might cause a massive problem with your code. It just makes the most business sense.
>>54441989
there is no supportable evidence that buntu or mint are more used than debian. distrowatch is not a reputable source.
you also never mentioned a reason other than popularity (which doesn't make sense since buntu is debian+patches+bloat and mint is buntu+bloat+patches) as of why mint or buntu would make sense to test on.
>>54442031
>distrowatch is not a reputable source.
It's the best that we have.
Then make it for Debian then double check it on Unbuntu and Mint.
>>54442098
Someone forgot the f in /fglt/.
I want to block app ads in my phone via my portable 3G router (Hame A2).
I can block http traffic just fine : http://www.example.com
But for some reason it doesn't block https traffic : https://www.example.com
I tried to block https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net IP via the router's firewall :
74.125.200.154, 74.125.200.155, 74.125.200.157, 74.125.200.156
But for some reason the ads were still loaded, perhaps because Google has shitload of IP for load balancing.
As a last resort, I blocked port 443, it worked but that's kinda dumb as I couldn't access other HTTPS website.
Changing DNS won't work as our ISP use transparent proxy to block websites.
tl;dr :
Any idea how to block https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net in my router ?
I'm planning to install openwrt later in my router.
>>54442147
If you can't follow the rules of the anonymous imageboard culture, also the friendly rule will not include you.
why should i try out and install different DE? differences are in
>wm
>dm
>other programs (editors, browsers...)
all of these i could just try out by installing them instead of installing whole DE.
Am i wrong? If so, any easy way to try out different DE with one distro?
Or is best way with live-usb?
>>54442195
You could try out live CDs/USBs, but it would probably just be better just to play with them in virtual machines.
>>54442195
Install debian in a vm via netinstall, install all DEs during the install or after. You can switch between them with your dm.
>>54442220
Kill yourself.
>>54442169
There is a package called xul-ext-ublock-origin in the debian repos, maybe there is something similar for openWRT?
>>54442195
linuxBBQ has 76 window managers in one live iso. Installing them one by one could be done but some have to be set up a little for them to be usable.
>>54442272
But wouldn't i have all progs of all DEs then (like kate and gedit e.g.)?
Can i switch between DE in DM, not only WM?
I really ask myself why i would try out different DE instead of just different progs and/or WM. Whats the main difference between DE?
BTW, thanks for the answers.
>>54442378
>>54442272
AH, that's kind ofanswering my question regarding DE or WM.... >54442378, you'd rather go fir WM than for DE then? I check out BBQ...
>>54442378
And thx btw :^)
>>54442291
Thanks for the help.
First, I blacklisted IP Range of 74.125.0.0/16 in my router. The ads didn't load, but even google.com didn't load too.
Next, I shortened the IP Range to 74.125.200.0/24, the ads still didn't load, good.
At last, I shortened the IP range to 74.125.200.154/31 and 74.125.200.156/31, the ads still didn't load.
Fuck ads.
I don't mind ads in application if they nicely stay at the bottom, but this one goes full screen and cover everything with ads everytime I press refresh button 2-3 times.
>>54442396
>But wouldn't i have all progs of all DEs then (like kate and gedit e.g.)?
depends, you can install msot DEs minimally.
>Can i switch between DE in DM, not only WM?
yes, i for example use both openbox (in case something in gnome breaks, which can happen because i am on debian sid) and GNOME3 on wayland. in my DM (dm) i can switch between gnome on wayland, gnome on x11, gnome classic and openbox.
>Whats the main difference between DE?
the main difference is if it uses Qt (KDE and LXQt do) or GTK (xfce, gnome, lxde, mate and a few others do).
other than that it differs in the programs it uses by default (compositor, WM, menus, GUI settings,...).
DEs have the advantage of using programs that go together very well and are tested to be compatible as well as being more consistent by dafault. WMs have the advantage of having less dependencies (which causes them to be more stable most of the time) and taking up very little disk space.
for a new user i would suggest using a DE with all recommended software because it just feels more mature by default.
gnome is pretty cool btw.
>>54442557
https://github.com/openwrt/packages/tree/master/net/adblock/files
>>54442557
have you tried looking at blocklists that adblockers generally use and just copying them?
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/tree/master/assets/ublock
Is there anyway to add window snapping to i3? When a window is in floating mode ofc.
>>54442098
>>54442178
The tripfriend wasn't drawing attention to himself, he was actually contributing to the thread. The only one shitposting and derailing the thread here is you. You are the cancer anon.
>>54442664
>>>/reddit/
>>54442575
Sweet, one gets real andwers here instead of being called faggot. appreciate
I've been using linux for years now, (suse, kanotix, kubuntu, tried out few others even arch-meme) and now wanna go deeper into it and try more, different stuff.
>>54442684
np m8
i forgot to add that you can actually mix and match a lot of DEs with other WMS or programs. for example you can switch out xfces WM (xfwm) with something like i3 and the compositor with compton and it will work just fine for most things.
Is Slackware the final boss of GNU/Linux distributions?
>>54442764
no, LFS is. especially with linux-libre.
>>54442779
LFS is not a distro.
>>54442792
as soon as you are finished, it is.
>>54442792
Distrowatch says it is
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lfs
>>54442779
>>54442801
Can you actually use LFS as a daily use distribution?
>>54442818
you can but it will be a lot of work. if you use this as a daily driver for an extended amount of time you can actually put it on your resume. I'd probably employ someone who did it.
kek https://github.com/LandonPowell/ThankYou.c
>>54442833
What kind of work?
>>54442874
sysadmin, for most other things it's not really that helpful.
>>54442031
Anon meant the most potential customers would be on Ubuntu who were incapable of fixing their own shit
>>54442862
it would be cool if this would send a mail to the devs thanking them.
>>54442862
This is actually funny. Ported it to sh:thanks() {
if [ -z "$1" ]; then
printf 'You’re welcome.\n'
else
printf '%s has been thanked.\n' "$1"
fi
}
>>54442764
Slackware is a deprecated POS with no real value or point to install.
Gentoo fags have the excuse that they compile things for their own
Arch fags have the excuse that they have access to the AUR
Ubuntu sellouts have the excuse that their shit works ootb XDD
Fedora beta cucks are using RHEL with the latest softwares
RHEL prajeets just don't want to deal with system maintenance because NSA is already hard to deal with
Cheeky CentOS faggots know what they are doing with their servers, good speed
Cuckware adds absolutely zero value to the Linux community. It's irrelevant and deprecated
>>54442291
Yeah the fucking hosts file
>>54443011
godspeed*
>>54443031
good speed*
>>54443027
It's a lot of work to manage that manually.
>>54442952
Needs to add a check for if the input is "linux" so it can interject.
>>54443059
The kernel is linux and there is no reason to call it anything else unless it's deblobbed and a gnu package.
>>54443089
The user doesn't interact with the kernel; your argument is invalid.
>>54443089
You almost had a good point, except you insisted the kernel must be linux.
I was actually hoping to bait freetards into agreeing with my sentiment, instead you had to show the depths of stupidity on the other side.
Please, just stop posting.
>>54443059
Memes aside, how to wordfilter in a shell script? grep results? sed? Bash? What's the most elegant way?
>>54443216
if linux/i but not gnu/i then stallman()
>>54443216
sed for filtering, grep alone isn't going to help you actually modify the text.
>>54442638
There used to be done wm pasta that had a link to some bash scripts that worked with any wm, had something to do with ponies...
>>54443011
Slackware's one of the oldest and most reliable distribution there is. It's the most UNIX like
>>54442952
What color scheme is this? I liked it.
Also, what's the best terminal emulator for GNU/Linux?
>>54443109
What? My argument is that the kernel is linux, nothing more and nothing less.
>>54443145
Your "b8" didn't make sense.
>>54443744
>the kernel is linux
Please, stop posting.
>>54443350
Different anon, but I know who you're talking about. I can't find the wm configs you're talking about, but I recall the person going by the name twiley
>>54443795
what are you even on about?
>>54443937
The kernel of the GNU system doesn't has to be Linux.
>>54443951
>the GNU system
lel
>trying this hard
Hello all, I have dual graphics laptop with AMD Llano, AMD 6620G and AMD 6600M graphics.
When I'm using ubuntu, I have to set option in grub to boot "nomodeset".
Then it's working, but my resolution is too small and I cannot change it.
Does somebody have advice what to do? Thanks!
>>54443951
I never said anything about this. I am in favor of calling the OS GNU, but that doesn't change that the kernel of GNU/Linux is generally Linux.
you can call it linux-libre if you use that.
What are all these CLI shit that people have running in their screenshot threads.
So far I have Screenfetch and htop, but what else is there to rice my shit up senpai
>>54443996
>>>/g/desktop
probably some obscure irc clients or something
using screenfetch instead of inxi is a sign for severe autism.
>>54443986
>the kernel of GNU/Linux is generally Linux.
I'm pretty sure it would always be linux in that case.
>>54444037
It can be Linux-Libre. hence my original statement in >>54443089
>>54444053
it's still linux, linux libre is just the normal linux kernel with some stuff not compiled in to it.
>tfw reddit gets hold of linux
>>54444070
There are shitloads of other kernels, not only Linux and GNU Linux-libre.
>>54444096
yes, but a gnu/linux system wouldn't be using one of them would it.
>gnu linux libre
that is hilarious
>>54444070
well, the renaming is legitimate when using GPL2.
>>54444096
this is true but the only way the script in >>54442952
will find anything when typing "Linux" is that you run it on a computer with Linux or Linux-Libre installed.
>>54443744
>>54443089
The point is, on multiple occasions you asserted that the kernel IS linux, rather than just saying it could be (or even is likely to be).
Obviously the script in question >>54442952 can run on many number of systems using the linux kernel, but there is no reason whatsoever to assume this to be the case.
I usually tend to disagree with the argument that people who refer "linux" meaning the complete OS are tech illiterate, but chucklefucks like you just keep fuelling the fire.
>>54443996
Hint: if you needed that software, you'd know their names and most likely already had it installed.
>>54443996
https://rizonrice.github.io/resources
>>54444210
Why not help him. He just wants to be cool.
>>54443975
maybe https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME helps, i am fortunate to have never had to deal with this before.
what does xrandr say?
>>54444186
did you consider >>54444118 ?
>>54442049
Hello. Guy whose question you answered. Sorry but your answer is kind of incomplete. Fedora makes sense. Why would I test on both Ubuntu and Mint when they're very similar? And if I only test on Fedora and Debian-likes, then I leave a huge scope of basic configurations unchecked. The point is to cover the largest userbase possible. The likeliness of a problem occurring because of a difference between Ubuntu and Mint can't be very big, right?
>>54442031
>(which doesn't make sense since buntu is debian+patches+bloat and mint is buntu+bloat+patches)
Since ubuntu has its own, non-portable DE, I would say it's important to test it on Ubuntu just to ensure there's no desktop integration-related issues with the software.
>>54444303
I will try it thank you!
>>54444335
>The point is to cover the largest userbase possible.
Ubuntu and Mint are just the two most popular distros. Checking them will cover the largest user base. The chances of them failing on one and not the other is slim, but why take chances when testing on one should be relatively quick after you have already tested and fixed it on the other.
>>54445027
Sorry but I don't think you know what you're talking about bro.
>>54445065
That's fine. It's not my job on the line. Do what you like, bud.
So I tried to install Ubuntu from a live CD last night, I got to the point where I put in my info for account and then once I hit continue it freezes up. It can't be a lack of specs on my computer since I have than enough.anyone have any ideas?
Is it true that i will be able to play video games on Linux thanks to Vulkan?
https://youtu.be/0y3LaLJoo0s
>>54442727
Thx again
>>54445110
>my advice is so good that you'll lose your job if you don't take it
Bro. I've been holding back from making fun of you since I saw your first reply because this is the friendly thread, but you're such a stereotypical tripfag, you really have it coming.
Please fuck off this thread. You are not fit to give advice.
>>54445150
Probably.
>>54444010
Desktop threads are banned senpai
>>54445200
Feel free to believe what you like, but that green text is a really poor strawman. Either way, I wish you luck friend :)
>>54445150
Hopefully
>>54445244
really? nice, now they can finally fuck off to /soc/ or /wg/
>>54445150
>doom is on vulkan
holy shit that's big news. bethesda being independent from windows could change quite a few things.
I've been using putty + xming on windows to SSH into my ubuntu box for virtualbox and a few other things.
Most of the time though when I alt+tab away the xming window freezes and I usually have to terminate the program to be able to open it again. In case of virtualbox I have to kill the VM to be able to see the screen again.
Wat do?
>>54444321
Except the script doesn't fucking search for anything, it just checks if it was called with any arguments, if so use the first one in the output string.
You could run "thanks windowsNT" on a debian install, and it will still return "windowsNT has been thanked."
>>54445150
there's a new doom?
>>54445447
Yeah, every night when mods go to bed, a few anons begin spamming porn threads. They've been doing it since desktop threads were banned
>>54445027
>>54445110
>>54445110
>>54445276
dumb tripfag cancer
>>54445718
>They've been doing it since desktop threads were banned
It's almost as if desktop threads were an excuse for compulsive weeb shitposters to shitpost and now they have to resort to downright spamming.
>>54445718
why did the desktop threads get banned anyway? Just for the anime overload? I sometimes enjoyed looking at them, between all the extremely riced desktops there was sometimes an inspiring setup or two
>>54445773
because showing off your desktop and circlejerking about anime is not really technology. they don't belong here.
>>54445718
/g/ mods should just quit their jobs.
At first they only care about the desktop thread while the rest of the board gets filled with bullshit, now they nuke the whole weeaboo clubhouse and as result we have even more shit threads and desktop tripfriends are spread allover other threads. /rant
>>54445797
I always thought the ricers were quite advanced users, because the extreme ones had tiling wms and used mostly cli tools. Many had multiple workspaces with programming projects open or something like that. It was inspiring to me because it showed that using cli tools can be pretty as well.
But in the end, I don't care where those threads happen.
>>54445797
This board used to be known as techloligy, anime isn't the problem. The problem was that desktop thread was pure cancer being infested with tripfags.
>>54445773
>between all the extremely riced desktops there was sometimes an inspiring setup or two
If you have seen one desktop thread, you have seen them all. Why? Because all of them are reposts from 10 years ago. They repost their boring desktop once and continue posting anime.
>>54445484
Anyone? It works fine through my mac osx shitbox.
All I get in the putty eventlog is network error: software caused connection abort
Which pdf viewer is as good as Sumatra PDF ? Currently using Atril, it's fine but if I move to another chapter in my pdf and switch pages its starts to slow down, whereas Sumatra PDF never had this issue.
I know Mupdf is very fast, but its lack of interface isn't optimal for my 500+ pages books. The annoying thing is that Mupdf's Android version has a better interface than the desktop one.
>>54445879
They only put it on for show. Once the screenshot got taken, the switched to a workspace with GUI programs.
Either way, there's literally a board for desktop related stuff - /wg/. They have desktop and homepage threads.
>>54446097
Zathura.
I use the GNOME one though, Evince.
>>54446097
mupdf is the best thing around, just learn the shortcuts. If you want a bloated gui with library, get calibre.
>>54446133
>no epub support
>>54446097
There are frontends for mupdf. Check the arch wiki.
>>54446156
>no epub support
That's my only gripe with Evince, other than that, it's pretty much perfect. There's always Calibre if you feel like bloating up your system.
What's the best GTK theme and why is it this one?
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/gnome+3+%28lol%29?content=106602
>not reading your pdf's with less.
Kids these days.
>>54446226
>not using more.
Anon who wants to test software on distros and was installing Arch last night here.
Debian is literally 12 GB. It's going to download for the entire afternoon.
Are Debian aware that they're working on an OS that's reputed for being lightweight and customizable?
>>54446268
If you're bored, install Plan 9. Fun guaranteed.
>>54446268
What DE did you choose?
>>54446268
Are you aware that you're parroting memes and myths?
>Debian is literally 12 GB. It's going to download for the entire afternoon.
Because you downloaded the DVDs. Download either a specific version or get the net-installer.
>Are Debian aware that they're working on an OS that's reputed for being lightweight and customizable?
Every distribution can be "lightweight" if you install it with its minimal installer. What does "lightweight" even mean? Nothing, it's a buzzword without any substantial meaning. The same with customizable. Everything is customizable to the same extend on every distribution. It doesn't matter on which distribution you install something, it's still the same program.
Stop spreading myths and misinformation.
>>54445961
This board was also known as /g/uro
>>54446223
I like arc-dark
>GNU
end this meme
>>54446314
Arc-Dark's got nothing on this, Mark.
>>54446268
>Debian is literally 12 GB.
Maybe if you install all of main at once.
The minimal install is way under 200mb.
>>54446156
>no epub support
There is an epub plugin in for zathura
>>54446311
>net-installer.
That's what I did. The net installer is currently downloading the packages. They're the packages I would have gotten from the DVDs, and it's taking fucking forever, so my presumption is I'm getting at least several GBs of bloat.
What are you getting defensive about?
>>54446310
I don't remember if I went by that choice screen yet. It's been downloading packages for over an hour and I've been multitasking a lot, so my memory's foggy. If there was any option that clearly included KDE, I most likely had the reflex to uncheck it.
>>54446133
>>54446156
Zathura is slower than Atril, so I'll start learning mupdf's shortcuts.
>>54446191
Thanks, will do.
>>54446314
/g/uro was a different board. Before the normalfag invasion, this board was for loli and technology.
>>54445961
It was literally people avatarfagging, except their avatars were 1920x1 080 pixels and had a task bar and some icons over them.
>>54446350
Strange, I did a netinst the other day and chose MATE, it took about 10 minutes with a 1.3MBps connexion.
>>54446406
Is MATE perhaps lighter than GNOME?
And how come people are always installing Linux around here? When do you actually use it?
>>54446425
You might not realize it but a lot of people lurk /g/. You use it right after stopping distrohopping.
>>54446425
Is it possible that you installed all DEs at once? i think GNOME is ~1.5gb.
>>54446392
this tbh fam
>>54446502
It's possible I just went fuck it and told it to install everything.
Another possibility is that it auto-selected the closest repository which is possibly a 4.86 in the underground of an underfinanced state college.
>>54446425
MATE is probably lighter, yes.
I don't know m8, sometimes I don't use my laptop for a month or two, so for the next travel I do a clean install on it (my /home is in a separate partition). Or when I stumbled upon an old and off contract computer at work, put a Debian on it and gave it to a friend. It's easy and fast to setup a working computer, so well it might happen quite often.
>>54446532
the debian installer doesn't really autoselect anything other than the base system.
>>54446545
base system, print server and a DE, IIRC. (MATE on testing and GNOME on stable last time I checked.)
I messed up a little and now I want to edit my grub.cfg from a live usb, however it's just giving me the permission denied when I try to open it. How do I get the permission?
What's a good distro for a raspberry pi that runs low memory?
>>54446223
https://github.com/tista500/Adapta
>>54446545
>>54446543
>>54446532
Well, whatever, I think it's done downloading now.
>preparing gnome-sudoku
Goddammit.
>>54446584
debian arm
>>54446599
Alright, it's done. Time to do some minor tweaks.
anon@debianvm:~$ sudo apt-get install expect
bash: sudo: command not found.
LITERALLY
>>54446796
su -l
>>54446796
just configure sudo
>>54446796
You need to install sudo first. Follow the guide.
>>54446268
You dumb fucking cunt.
The installation size may well hit 12GB if you install all the DEs and optional shit, but it's compressed in transit/on the DVDs.
You can install pretty much everything a relatively (still completely functional, no "hurr just use a WM" autist shit) minimal install needs, including gnome, from a single 4GB DVD.
Source: literally run the install with the first DVD. Install from the DVDs is set to prompt you to put in the other discs instead of downloading from the repos if you try to later install anything from the extra discs.
Until you manually modify the source list, anything that is included on the discs will not download over the web. If you use just the one DVD, the total compressed size of the install data cannot exceed a single DVD.
>>54446796
su
apt-get install sudo
adduser anon sudo
>>54446826
>>54446874
>>54446876
Thanks, I know what to do. I'm just disgusted that there's still distros that don't come with sudo.
>>54446796
That's what you get for being a dumbass and setting a root password on install.
>>54446918
How is setting a root password on install dumb? You can still login as root and do root stuff. It just... requires a password.
>>54446942
If you set a root password, sudo is not installed for you.
The expectation is that anyone who happily starts off with a root account should be able to set it up on their own.
However, if you don't set a root password, the installer will prompt you to make the first user account which will have sudo rights.
So yes, setting a root password and then complain you can't use sudo is incredibly fucking stupid, and you should feel bad.
>>54446974
I have installed 5 different distributions in the past day, all with root passwords, and this is the first one to not preload sudo because I set a root password. Even Arch was installed with sudo.
>>54447027
install gentoo
>>54446942
Forgot to mention, it's also considered a mild security risk to allow logging in directly with a root account.
The reason for this is if a system has a root password, someone could attempt to brute force the login without having to know any usernames, they just keep trying with root.
If a system doesn't have a root password, an attacker first has to find out what a valid username is.
No decent shell login system will tell the user whether the username or password specifically is invalid, just that it is either of those issues.
Enabling direct root login is roughly equivalent to not salting your hashes.
>>54447027
>I didn't read the manual, and something unexpected happened, waaaaaah!
>>54447060
What the fuck is your problem, man? Why does it bother you that I'm complaining? And you're telling me you read the manual for an automatic GUI installer to get a precise idea of all the shell commands that are gonna be pre-installed? Because I don't believe that. Also, are you aware that you're in the fucking friendly GNU Linux thread?
This triggers the archfag.
I don't get it. Do you mean the ugly Adwaita/GNOME/Tango or however they're called icons?
>>54446974
>>54447060
interesting, learned something new today, thank you anon(s).
I wonder, why doesn't the Debian installer even ask you to enter a root password if it's not good practice? It never occured to me -not- to set a password.
>>54447262
I actually couldn't remember what the install prompt said so just looked it up.
I have no idea why they suggest you set a root password since it is in most cases bad practise for user machines, and especially without mentioning that sudo will not be installed.
Tbh even if you would for some reason like a root password I'm just used to skipping it in the installer and setting it later, so that I don't have to setup sudo. It's lazy but it saves time.
>>54446330
>not using end of light
My parents started to use online banking and asked me to install a linux distro in an old notebook they will use just for that.
I have no previous experience with linux so i'm looking at recomendations for one distribution that:
1) is easy to maintain and keep updated. Preferably by running a command once a week and that is it
2) is user firendly for old folks used to windows
3) is not botnet
>>54447060
better to set a root password than forget about it and leave it at default
GIMP won't recognize my mouse's scroll wheel when I press the "Grab event" button or try to use one of the shortcuts assigned to the scroll wheel.
Did anyone else have similar problems? I just searched the internet and there are no results. Am I really the first one who's experiencing this?
>>54447786
None of them are botnets. Install whatever you feel comfortable looking after for them. Ubuntu or mint would be fine.
>>54447786
Linux Mint with Cinnamon. If they are used to windows then they will feel right at home with cinnamon.
>>54447786
>>54447854
I used to think like that, just install Ubuntu, but experience has taught me otherwise:
if you don't actually live with your parents, those 3(?) years of Long Term Support you'd get with Ubuntu 16.04 will pass by quicker than you think. Don't even consider installing anything with 6 months of support!
Instead, if your parents really only need to do online banking, use Debian stable. Much longer support (for more packages, by the way) and your parents won't care for the outdated software it has. The browser will still get updates.
is it possible to make my "super" shortcut stop triggering on other super + something shortcuts?
I'm tired of Mint and want to try Debian.
I'm going to be using a 120GB drive. So according to the videos I've watched on the installation, everyone manually just makes a root and a swap partition. What size should I make the swap for my case?
>>54447854
>None of them are botnets
you never know what those filthy, closed source programs do while you're sleeping
>>54447854
Isn't ubuntu bundled with amazon adware? And i heard about mint site being compromised.
>>54447890
Yeah, i live in a city 2h away. There is reeally no problem with outdated packages as long as they don't break and they load the sites.
>>54441968
so I have a .tar.gz inside it was file called PKGBUILD and a .tar
how do I install this on arch linux
>>54447940
>Isn't ubuntu bundled with amazon adware?
No, not really. That wouldn't make it a botnet anyway.
>And i heard about mint site being compromised.
The site was compromised for a day or two. That also doesn't make it a botnet.
>>54447940
>It comes with an Amazon app, and the option to search Amazon when you do a dashboard search which is disabled by default. It used to be enabled by default and that didn't make the council of tinfoil hats happy so now Ubuntu has the reputation of being a botnet, even though that's not really what a botnet does.
>>54447797
There is no default though, if you don't set a password then the account is deactivated.
It doesn't mean that someone can just use a blank string, you literally cannot login as root.
Sudo of course defaults to using the user pass and elevates to root, so this still works without a root password being set.
You still need sudo rights to set/reset the root password, so it's not a security flaw.
On single-user systems, the first account made effectively is the root account.
The main difference is, someone attacking would have to know the password AND the username to attempt to login.
>>54447786
Debian stable with xfce if you have the time to set it up for them, xubuntu if you don't
>>54448001
i'm talking about those lazy cases when user doesn't bother to set a pw for his account
>>54448012
Sounds like a system you'd want, not what an old person used to Window's ways would want.
>>54447969
>>54447988
before 16.04 the amazon shopping lens, enabled by default, would send every keystroke in the dash to Canonical's servers. That already was an improvement to the first version, which send them to Amazon directly.
I'm always amazed about the mental gymnastics people like you perform to deny privacy issues. Literally any other distro doesn't do that. Before Win 10, not even big bad MS did it (as far as we can tell). And that's not a privacy issue? Stop deluding yourselves
>>54448054
Works for my parents. I'm more of a rolling release person and prefer gnome, but they have an old computer and like their panel.
>>54448080
No one is denying anything but that is not a botnet child.
>>54448047
I don't think you can do that.
If you leave root blank, first user must have a password.
>>54448086
Well if you say so. I guess your setup would be preferable if anon's talking about a computer with limited resources. But xfce has very little preloaded software. You don't want a new user to stumble on how to find and install software before they can even do basic stuff like browse the web or edit a text file.
>>54448140
he said "old netbook" so i assumed he has limited resources.
>>54448080
>privacy issues
It's a privacy concern, not necessarily an issue. The dash SEARCHED Amazon for your dash queries for matching products and apps. That's an advertisement. It didn't send your "keystrokes" to Amazon for it to be documented on a per-user basis to make a big file on which applications you searched for over the days.
This is being spammed is logs.I have run a repair on the xfs drive but it is still spamming this.Performance drops down to 1Mb/ read/write.XFS: java(17859) possible memory allocation deadlock size 55856 in kmem_alloc (mode:0x2400240)
>>54447048
I was actually gonna try that, but then it came to me that Gentoo has no automatic installer and comes preloaded with almost nothing. So, is there any difference between Gentoo and Arch? Because I thought that was Arch's "thing".
>>54448138
i can't tell for all distros out there but you can in those i tried. it's linux after all, you should be able to whatever the fuck you want with your own system
>>54448310
Gentoo can come with a lot preloaded if you choose the appropriate profile.
>>54448239
>xfs_db -c frag -r /dev/sda3
>xfs_fsr /dev/sda3
>>54448400
I have done that.
>>54448316
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux.
>>54448424
i'm sorry, Stallman sensei
>>54448492
Good boy.
>>54448310
>>54448358
I googled it and it's rather fascinating.
>Gentoo has no installer
>Gentoo requires you to compile your own kernel
>Gentoo has no package manager. It has a source code manager.
>Gentoo comes with a piece of silex for you to punch programs in binary into your hard drive.
>Gentoo replaces the default wallpaper for any DE you install with a low resolution picture of Stallman.
has any of you ever thought how this world (and this board) would look like if Stallman was a female? what would be your opinion on 'her' and 'her' ideas?
>>54448602
I'd call her based granma stallwaifu
>>54444441
>off by three
>>54444444
>>54448619
please stop posting nobody gives a fuck
>>54448310
This might not be a very common viewpoint, but I've always maintained that one of the most important (if not _the_ most important) things to consider when choosing a Linux distro is the package manager.
The package manager actually determines some of the design decisions on how the distro was packaged to begin with, and it almost completely governs how your system ends up being put together in the end.
Distros are just that: "distributions"
There's really nothing keeping you from installing Ubuntu and then through extensive tweaking ending up with an exact duplicate of an Arch installation for example, except for 1 thing. That thing is the package manager. It's what really separates one distribution from another.
So their package managers is what I would say is the only noteworthy distinction between Gentoo and Arch. Pick which one you want to use based on which package manager tickles your fancy.
>>54448884
Well, Arch has a package manager that's pretty much as functional as apt-get, although less stable and, I premume, probably has a lot less packages.
Gentoo has a package manager that downloads source code and lets you compile it.
>>54448617
i think 'she' would fall a victim to our natural male chauvinism
>>54449060
>natural male chauvinism
>natural
i don't believe in tales.
being a tech literate woman in the 80s would have made stallman one of the most popular people on the world. also feminazis wouldn't hate him then.
Just installed Debian, how do I install nvidia graphics drivers? Point me in the right direction please, my resolution is all fucked up
>>54449166
https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
>>54449166
xrandr -s 1920x1080
>>54446329
>GNU is just a meme
End yourself
>>54446329
NEVER REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54449154
that's how we're made
>>54448310
You wont have to spend a week updating you machine from source per update
>>54449166
Add contrib and non free repos, install nvidia-driver. IIRC there's also nvidia-xconfig to install and launch once, so X properly uses it and not nouveau.
In a few months, when I finally have the cash to afford to build my own pc, I intend on switching to Linux. Microsoft is bent on ensuring their OS is no longer a feasible choice.
What is a good Linux distro for someone with very limited experience, who intends on using it as a daily driver.
So far I'm thinking, Ubuntu MATE, Linux Mint, or Fedora. I've also heard good things about Elementary OS, but I can't see any reason to use it over any of the others I've listed.
>>54449291
http://fglt.nl/guides/picking-a-distro.html
make sure your chipsets are compatible with foss drivers. this will save you from headache.
>>54447911
The same as your RAM. Don't forget your boot partition homes.
>>54449334
>>54449301
>>54448884
Thanks /g/uys, really do appreciate it
Hey guys I encountered something on Arch/Antergos that I don't know how to solve, I would love is someone could help me out with this.
My laptop has an SSD and I use an external HDD via USB. I can not switch on the system if the USB HDD is unplugged. It starts to run a startup job and then shows me the journal. It looks for the missing HDD and only willing to start the system if they are present.
Please tell me what I did wrong and how to solve this.
Is there a debian-based distro with sane defaults + nice DM + works out of the box ?
I like debian because muh freedomz, but I don't feel like choosing a display manager from scratch and spending hours configuring it with themes and shit.
>>54449475
Use an DE? xfce with compton is nice.
>>54449475
bunsenlabs
>>54449475
>>54449507
I've been using *buntu distros for about a year now and I'm looking to switch to a distro that does less hand holding and I want to start learning how to apply my linux knowledge in an enterprise setting. I'd also like to get away from Debian and its derivatives because it's becoming infested with radfems. I was thinking either CentOS or OpenSUSE. Advice?
>>54449537
debian got the radfems under control.
>>54449475
You see your display manager for 5 seconds, depending how fast you type your password in. There are only 2 worthwhile display managers, LightDM and SDDM, to choose from. It's not something a person should think about that much.
>>54449475
>I like debian because muh freedomz,
Try Trisquel. It's based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian, but completly free as in freedom and works out of the box.
What does RMS smell like, /fglt/?
>>54449657
Freedom. Now fuck off.
>>54449639
Debian is completely free now
>>54449602
There are still multiple places on their page where they directly link to the "geek feminism" wiki. And they still have staffers specifically assigned to squawking about "privilege" and "mansplaining".
I'm trying to disable write caching on my raid10 array on ubuntu.
I've used sudo hdparm -W0 /dev/sdx on all of them but writes still end up being cached in memory. Am I missing something?
Just installed Lubuntu 16.04 onto a cheap box I'm trying to turn into a simple media server.
It installed fine, but booting to the hard drive just gives me a black screen with/dev/sda1: clean, 121550/96419864 files, 1253871/38550785 blocks
Ctrl+Alt+Del immediately restarts the computer with no messages
Ctrl+Alt+F2 brings me to a console login but immediately reverts back to the above message after about a second.
Installing 16.04 on my desktop
Should I use LVM?
>>54450233
Okay nevermind on that part I guess, I tried ctrl+alt+f2 again and it let me actually log in. Xorg is failing to start up though now.
Anything in particular I should be looking for in the logs?
>>54449178
>>54449279
Thanks guys, it worked
Another thing that's kind of annoying me, how do I get the log in screen to remember my username? (Debian)
>>54449789
give me reliable sources for this. the mailinglists seem clean and the people are reasonable from what i saw.
>>54450551
>Being this retarded
https://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment
>>54450610
you know that everybody can edit wikis right?
this has nothing to do with debian being "taken over" or something.
>>54450652
This page is directly linked on the front page of Debian.com you jackass.
>>54450610
Well, I guess that's Debian's end.
>>54450610
Ok, I'm uninstalling Debian right now. What distro to pick? Suggestions welcome.
>>54450672
>.com
it's debian.org
show me where, i can't find it. the only thing that comes close would be the link to the code of conduct which basically equates to "don't be an asshole"
>>54450610
>>54450718
>>54450712
>>54450685
>>54450675
>>54450652
How is an anti-harassment policy at all a problem to you guys?
Show me on the doll where the policy hurt you.
>>54450712
.com redirects to .org, sorry I mistyped faggot
>code of conduct
>anti-harassment
how is it that people are still this fucking new?
>>54450737
We have a whole board to discuss that.
>>>/pol/
I don't need "equality" forcing nazis in my community.
>>54450737
>moving goalposts this much
An anti-harassment policy that directly links to known radfem blogs/wikis and has a privilege checklist.
>>54450780
>An anti-harassment policy is naziism
Sounds like you'd belong on /pol/ much better.
>unity still requires you to relog to see installed stuff in your dash
>>54450815
>an anti-harassment policy that links to feminist blogs and "privilege" nonsense
Yeah, the definition of "harassment" that includes disagreeing with a woman.
>>54450752
0 results for "anti" on debian.org
It's not on the main page.
I dislike radfems just as much as you but instead of abandoning everything they get close to I convert them to humanism. We are not Russia and the winter won't come.
Flipping out about a wiki article everybody can change is not helpful, change it to the better if you don't like it.
If you actually read the code of conduct they use you would see that there is nothing in it that would be unreasonable.
CLI torrent client?
>>54450876
rtorrent
>>54450876
rtorrent, aria2, transmission-cli
>>54450876
transmission-cli
