GTX 1080 is announced! Costs $600! Cheaper than 980ti and absolutely blows it's socks off.
Glad I waited. Cause I'm getting this one.
1070 is around $400 apparently. Faster than the Titan X.
>$600
>$400
Literally taking a massive dick up the ass just to play gaymes.
Kill yourself.
>>54439879
Someone's poor.
>>54439845
Not paying that much but prices will drop anyways. I wait some more.
>>54439908
/g/ default answer to everything
(you) you get one and only one. Be sure to troll harder.
>>54439922
But he is right.
Some of you fags spend hundreds of dollars on placebo headphones, yet get mad at people spending hundreds on superior hardware.
>>54439879
I would say 4 TitanXs to play 4K is a "massive dick up the ass". I'm dropping around 2.5K to upgrade after 10 years. It's valid.
>>54439908
And I'm not rich either. I just saved up.
Just because you're not running to the shelves anytime a company announces something shiny doesn't mean you're poor.
>>54439909
You could. My current rig is a E5300 with a GT730 and 3(2+1) gigs of RAM. I gotta upgrade ASAP.
>>54439845
>canada
>not waiting for the TI
enjoy being a beta-tester though
>>54439845
>more expensive than 970/980 on launch
literally being suckered in, goy
>>54439879
>mfw ausfag
>mfw 900-1000aud for a 1080
>>54440037
THIS is the important point.
>>54439879
I'm sure you waist money in other ways, like beers and cigarettes
>>54440034
>>54440037
So I should get the 980ti? Why would I spend more for a weaker card?
>>54440054
jokes on you i do neither. /thread rip gg!
>>54440050
shit thats not bad considering 980 were over a grand
>>54440066
no wait for the 1080ti to come out, so the price drops a little on the other ones.
If you don't have a 4k display or vr why does it matter?
>>54440084
No the Titan and TI are over a grand
Pretty pissed off nobody is taking pre orders
Newegg
PCCG
none of them
Anyone know when Pascal masterrace chips will come into laptops?
Maybe some Pascal mobile versions.
I've heard that power management is excellent.
>>54440026
4000 croatian kuna
+ 25% Vat
5000 kunas
yeah, I'm gonna wait for amd.
>>54440109
>amd
We will be lucky to get 980Ti level of performance
the 1080 reference non oc is almost TWICE that
>>54439879
>people waste money on things I don't care about
>Why is everyone but me so fucking stupid lmao
>>54440086
Because my current rig is a E5300 with a GT730 and 3(2+1) gigs of RAM. I gotta upgrade ASAP. I was already going to get a 980ti in a few days. 1080 is cheaper. And better.
How much longer do I gottta wait for the 10xx ti?
Wew lad 5% more powerful in certain applications than a properly configured 980ti, sure is worth $599 dolarry-doos.
1.5 year lifespan, 7.5gb vram, no asynch. THE WAY ITS MEANT TO BE PLAYED
when is amd's conference for their new card?
>>54440026
Why can't they release the 460 at the same time? I need to upgrade soon, but even the 970's price is pretty steep. I hope polaris has some good $200-300 CAD GPUs, otherwise I'm gonna have to shell out considerably more than I want for a 970...
Has AMD said when they're gonna announce specs and prices?
>>54440132
Will anyone come there?
>>54440123
If the 1080 is too expensive for him he's probably not aiming for 1080-level performance.
>>54440127
Alright, you make a good point. So I should just get the 980ti?
I'd rather get 1070 is that's the case. It's cheaper and slightly better. Or same justification for not getting it?
Can't wait for the backpedaling and the tears when the real benchmarks come out and it's mediocre, like usual.
Before you call me, I have two tear buckets, one red, one green.
>founders version
You have to be a stupid fuck to buy that. It's what, 150$ over the 3rd party versions?
Anyway, wait for amd before buying anything. If nothing else, it'll force nvidia to lower prices.
>>54440123
I'm not actually a gamer. I just want to upgrade my 5770 and buy a 4k monitor.
obviously I want to buy a next gen card, but not for that price.
>>54440149
i just want to know the date
>>54440150
in alot of games the Fury barely catches up with the 980Ti and Now the 490x is meant to be between the fury and the 390x
Count me out i think AMD just got btfo
unless they actually offer this new 490x at $300 and it doesnt get stomped by the 1070 i might get it
>>54439879
I agree people take the big giant D for games and it's fucking retarded. The retarded are the true cancer killing video games and the pc world in general. I'll be happy when it bites them in the ass later.
>>54440170
>"in alot of Nvidia optimised games benchmarked at 1080p the Fury equals a 980ti"
Fixed for you.
>>54440186
oh in DX12 games the Titan even gets rekt
>>54440139
Become a trap.
>>54440139
>460
I meant 1060
>>54440165
Doubtful
Or you are saying to wait until Vegas cards, which is stupid.
Polaris 11 is lowend and Polaris 10 is middle range card.
Why would anyone spend more than 1k on a pc to play fucking video games?
>>54440211
Rumors place them at 980ti levels.
Just wait a month, like you have to anyway because God knows when the 3rd party boards of 1080 and 1070 drop.
>>54440212
back to your xbone filthy peasant
>>54440212
Because it does games and alot of other stuff.
Why do people spend 1k or a 4k tv?
Why do people spend 1k on a PS4 and a PS4 Neo
Why do people even spend money? Lets just become farts and float around lule
>>54440212
Because they spent 1 k for video games. Are you dumb?
>>54440212
Alright, what's a good rig under 1K?
>>54439980
this.
>>54440179
>Being able to play Skyrim with 8K textures and the most beautiful ENBs and with minimal loading screens @1440p60.
I'm sure nobody wants that...
Anyone know when AMD is gonna talk about their GPU's? or are they gonna take months to do it?
Gonna jump on the 1070 from a 970, feels worth it.
Also how much vRAM is the 1070 gonna have?
>>54440228
>rumors
Nope, 980ti level is absolute high end level.
And AMD won't replace their high end series with Fiji chips until Vegas.
Makes absolutely no sense, if they release a card as fast and faster than the Furies and keep saying the Fury will stay.
That said, I will buy whatever card that has the best performance-powerdraw-price ratio for 2k resolution.
When are the AMD cards going to be revealed?
>>54440303
How?
>>54440272
>Anyone know when AMD is gonna talk about their GPU's?
Computex may 31st
Their too poorfag to launch their own conference.
>>54440306
i think it's just nvidia shills here so they don't know when. i've asked the same question in 5 different threads 7 times and no one responds
>>54440272
GTX 1070 has 8GB GDDR5. The 1080 has 8GB GDDR5X. Don't know how much difference the X will make but you can use 8K textures with 8gigs.
>>54440326
Because AMD hasnt made a good GPU since t he 290x 8gb and its a housefire along with the 390x
They gimped the Fury with 4GB instead of offering a 8GB GDDR5 version
>>54440109
>>Paid my PC about 6700kn
>>most games 1080p max
>>i5 6500 & gtx 960 msi gaming
Hopefully 1070 will be more affordable.
>>54440326
See>>54440315
Being on the winning team is not "shilling". The 480x will be 980Ti teir. The 1080 outperforms it by twice as much.
>>54440092
The titan and TI are slower than this and draw much more power...
>>54440351
This i mean there really is no contest.
I usually back the winner and in 2013 that was AMD
Now its clearly the 1080
Even IF AMD somehow manage to pull a fury level performing card out of their ass for $300 its still 1/2 the power of a 1080
>>54440359
No shit
Was going to get a 970 in July but looks like I'll be getting a 1070 instead.
>>54440338
you have a source?
>>54440315
ty
>>54440384
>you have a source?
watch the fucking conference
>>54440384
http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-gtx-1080/
>>54439980
Headphones aren't outdated in 12 months max.
>double node shrink
>people still think that 25% increase in speed is somehow good
These are sad times indeed.
>>54440397
thanks
I read somewhere that the specs for the 1070 were not out yet, that's why I was skeptical.
>>54440395
Link to conference?
>>54440054
>waist
You'll reach a wider audience if you shill elsewhere.
>>54440419
https://www.youtube.com/user/nvidia/videos
>>54440405
Don't forget that most of that is just higher clocks.
>>54440348
it will be about 3000 kn. similar to the 970 which is about 2800 kn.
Its too much IMO, hope AMD goes below 2000.
>spends $600 on a video card
>gets promised good performance
>has to cap games at 60fps because 90% of them have graphic glitches
Meanwhile
>buys amd card
>plays the same game at 60fps
Prove me wrong neckbeards
As a person who has never played games on his PC. Can the 1080 run games in 4k without any lag?
>>54440459
You mean at a stable framerate? Cause lag could mean many things.
Wait for the benchmarks. If you see above 40fps performances, it's good to go.
>>54440459
>lag
Uh sure buddy, don't forget to buy the founders edition.
>>54440459
If you overclock it Yes.
Stock clocks it would be scraping low 60's
As you saw during the paragon demo with a single character on screen it barely got 60fps
DX12 performance is unknown but if Vulkan was anything to go by it should be quite good.
That said we really need proper benchmarks as nobody is going to run the reference cards
>>54440162
Yup, cant believe people fall for the marketing "slides" performace everytime.
hurrr duuur but litography !!!!
fuck off new litography is meant to jew you out over the years, they will sell you shitty little chips for the usual 15 - 20% performance gain with the 1st generation just as they did ever before while they can jerk off on Maldives for a year then release proper/bigger chips for a free (for them) new generation.
>>54440458
>>54440459
Depends on what settings, if on low more than likely yeah, most games actually.
>>54440532
Bad goy! There's nothing you can do about it, stay quiet.
>>54440496
Yes... yes...
>>54440126
Here's a little tip for you; its not your graphics card holding you back as much as you think it is - having a decade old CPU doesn't help in the slightest.
>frametimes
>AMD
ayyy
Same with the R9 380X, with average fps it looks good, but it has massive glitches, in game stuttering due to sudden drop.
>>54440459
Not a chance. Not even two 980 Tis can
>>54440583
I know, jackass. I meant a 4790K/980ti build. Instead I'm getting the 1070. Save some shekels.
>>54440516
fps doesn't mean much nowadays anyway. Framedrops and frame latency are in.
>>54440598
Why do people pay money for this? I'd buy a 960 before a Fury X
Does this device make games more intellectually stimulating?
Will my OC'd (4.2 ghz) phenom II 1100t black edition bottleneck a standard gtx 1080?
>>54439879
>buy 150 dollar card works for 5years
>buy a 400-600 dollar card works for 6 and maybe 7 if your lucky
kek stupidity has a price tag
>>54439980
>Some of you fags spend hundreds of dollars on placebo headphones
>tfw my $400 headphones are still going strong after nearly ten years
>>54439845
I'm only going to buy a new GPU if VR headsets and VR porn are cheap and mainstream. I only play CSgo anyways.
>>54440662
yea...
just check out steam hardware stats
most people are rocking GTX560 / 660 / 760 / 960 tops and thats what the devs are making games for. No point in making games that wont run properly for 90% of your customer base.
All those "ultra" settings for the expensive cards are just a placebo anyways, you can barely tell a difference.
>>54440598
http://wccftech.com/gears-of-war-pc-benchmarks-with-latest-patch/
>>54440165
I'll buy it, but I'm also claiming a tax deduction on it because "work" pc so the cost doesn't bother me. Will be a massive upgrade from me SLI 780s anyway and hopefully overclocks nice so I can wring some more from it later on.
>>54440598
okay, darker line is fury x and it has less jumps than lighter line, are you trying to prove you can't read graphs?
>>54440459
No. That amount of crude power will come in 2018 maybe.
>>54439845
>Glad I waited. Cause I'm getting this one.
HBM2 card is coming out next year, buy GDDR5X now instead, kek, enjoy!
>>54440708
>tfw when rocking a 660 for almost 4 years
>tfw when DS3 runs perfectly
>tfw when i know i won't have to switch for another 2~3 years
>>54440768
Wow
>>54440708
>All those "ultra" settings for the expensive cards are just a placebo anyways
LOL.
Keep telling yourself that.
>>54440270
>rim with 8K textures and the most beautiful ENBs
and all those REALLY smooth realistic looking sex animation by loverslab OMGZ totally worth it!!!
>>54440848
damn I sure do love me some SS13
>>54440459
maybe in 1080 SLI if you really mean stable 60fps 4k gta 5 on ultra.
>>54440814
>bait
>>54440848
What game is it?
>>54439845
>Actually costs $700
>Nvidia doesn't share benchmarks because it's only marginally faster
This is Nvidia's worst GPU launch in a long time.
>>54440814
>GPU if VR headsets and VR porn are cheap and mains
some are some aren't. whats the point of the game if not enjoying it on ultra? go back to minecraft!
>>54440814
search any AAA game from the past 3 years on google : "game high vs ultra" or "game medium vs ultra" open any article or video, check out the comments: 99% of the comments are lmao cant tell the difference
but keep living in your choice-supportive bias dream
>>54440917
>SS13
this, the new cards will have 10-15 fps gain max. the 2x 4x "faster charts" are about some shenanigan tests that wont mean shit for demanding games.
>>54440772
You have to buy at some time anon. HBM2 may be coming out next year, but something even better will be coming out a year after that. Then something better every single year.
>>54440399
If you replaced your headphones to be on the bleeding edge of technology, they would be.
I'm still playing 60fps on 1080p on a card designed in 2011.
>>54440956
Haha. Sure.
The reality is, every comment is some faggot asking if they can run it.
If you blindly believe comments over actually seeing it... Bravo.
But please, show me this game that has no difference.
I still have a GTX 670 and I'm not planning on upgrading to a 4K or a 120/144Hz monitor anytime soon.
Should I bother waiting for the 1070/1080/Polaris or rather just try to grab a cheap used 970/980/980 Ti? I feel like I won't need the extra performance of the GP104 cards in the near future anyway.
>>54440459
The only information we have now about the 1080p 'ascal is that there is nothing it can not do.
![19402-94b770e8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QBciB6N.jpg "19402-94b770e8[1].jpg")
>>54441108
first, completely random result I found:
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/19402/battlefield-hardline-ultra-vs-low-graphics-pc-screenshots-compared-not-many-differences-found/
its even ultra vs low lol
no way you can tell a difference without pausing teh game and analysing shadows by pixels or something.
>>54441125
I'd get a 970 for like 100 bucks in 3 weeks
![crysis3minimista_702611b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3EmvhqY.jpg "crysis3minimista_702611b[1].jpg")
>>54441108
If i mismatched the settings labels you would probably spend minutes sorting them and probably still get them in the wrong order. In a live game (not screenshots you have time to analyze) you cant tell a difference in high vs ultra in practically every game.
All these /v/ermins ITT, jesus christ.
Where my gpu render bros at
>>54441150
DELETE
>>54441206
You can't ignore the truth anon.
I'm toying with the idea of getting a 1070, maybe a 1080. What kind of power supply am I going to need for this kind of power?
>>54440050
>tfw new zealand
what do I even do
I'm stuck with a bloody 660 and fuck if I'm willing to drop a thousand on a graphics card yet nothing else seems worth it at a lower price range. Do I just buy AMD?
>>54441226
430w
>>54441257
84w cpu + 180w gpu
ehh buy whatever gaming brand overkill psu you want goyim
>>54441263
wew lad
>>54441289
I stuck with good ol' regular seasonic overkill. 650w for my 760 and 4570. When I was doing research to build my first PC 3 years ago, I read that a low quality/insufficient wattage PSU could potentially fry every component. I didn't want to take even the slightest risk.
>>54441246
It should only be about $550-600 for the 1070, but i bet all my local stores will amp the price up to about $800
>>54441325
Well the 980 ti is > $1k here so I'd imagine even in the 1070 is going to be disgustingly high priced.
>>54441246
Least you kiwis have better net, right?
>tfw stuck paying more for adsl2 then what people pay for nbn....
>>54441349
On adsl it's just as shit but yeah our fiber is aight. $95 nzd a month for acceptable speeds.
>>54441223
I've wasted so much money.
>>54441226
500w recommended by Nvidia.
>>54441150
This seems cherrypicked as fuck
I agree the difference between ultra and high is often negligible but the difference between low and high more than often is very visible
>>54441302
> i read uneducated fear mongering drivel so i bought a higher wattage psu instead of focusing on efficiency curves and real numbers
good work
remember valve shipped all their beta custom steam machines (i7 + 980) with 430w psu's
>>54441436
Between that and the upwards of 100w discrepancies between the various free wattage calculators out there? Yeah, I just said fuck it and went for overkill.
>>54439845
What kind of dummy is going to buy an nvidia card when AMD is murdering them now?
>>54439879
That's like half a paycheck for most people. Get a job.
>>54439845
>months ago
>got a rad deal on a new 980ti
>1080 announced the day after
I'll still use my 980ti because I got such a good deal on it, but god-damn was that a kick in the head.
>>54440598
Jesus christ
It seems the GoW is hitting the 4gb vram
so much for 4gb is enough meme because ive had 4gb since 2013 and i can assure you guys its not enough.
>>54440626
Thats all down to drivers and the games themselves
>>54441468
>AMD
>murdering based Nvidia
The amount of power needed to run one of those cheap AMD cards would be enough to power a small village for weeks, the heat produced would be enough to provide that same village with a steel mill.
>>54441478
Don't forget that people not living with their parents need to worry about rent, bills, food, and gas if they drive.
>>54441478
>bad bait
>default insult
(you)
>>54441616
they've often learned how to save money, too
fuck, set aside ten bucks a week for a year and you've almost got enough
that's like skipping one tendies meal a week
>>54440644
LOL of course it will you fucking idiot that would bottleneck a GTX 480
>>54441150
>Hardline
Who cares literally the worst DICE game ever made
>>54441246
Idk we should kill ourselves
Gonna import from newegg most likely
>>54441696
But that wasnt made by Dice tho
>>54440848
sauce?
>>54441696
>Gonna import from newegg most likely
Won't customs charge you a shit load? How does that even work?
>>54441720
For a $500 card?
Doesnt it take affect in July?
>>54441744
http://www.customs.govt.nz/features/internetshopping/pages/default.aspx
>>54441720
Yeah its under $1000 i dont have to pay anything.
Guess ill be importing a 1070 or 490 then :(
>>54441765
Im in Aus mate
>>54441778
>we should kill ourselves
>we
>australia
um
>>54441790
>Implying there is a difference between AU and NZ
Ones a small shithole
the other is a larger shithole
Shithole = Shithole
???
not going to buy these, it's the first revision of new tech and aimed for the VR hype, the next gen is going to be much better for less the price
>>54441806
Uh yeah, they're both different countries. Imports cost barely shit all and Aus retailers don't drive your prices up by 30-50% whenever they feel like it. I'm from aus, I just live in NZ, an imported $400 card will end up costing you a good $550 at least. So given context I'd say australia certainly is less of a shithole
>>54441806
>ameeridumb
>calling anywhere else a shithole
kek, KEK, K-E-K
>>54441678
doubt it. the 480 isnt really powerful at all. a stock 955 would bottleneck it but a well ocd 1100t should be enough.
>>54441837
IM AUSSIE DICKHEAD
>>54441838
OC doesnt matter a shit on a fucking 1100t its IPC is so low
>>54441832
Yeah thats nuts.
>>54441850
>hating your own country
Get the fuck out cunt
>>54441436
PSU are most efficient at approximately 50% load. Are you retarded?
>>54441838
>a well ocd 1100t should be enough.
That really is not going to do much of anything
why would you even assume clock speed matters at all
>>54439845
I'll probably upgrade to 2x 1080's in SLI, they're badass and I've been waiting for a card that can power 4k gaming at high settings at 60fps and my 980 isn't cutting it.
Really impressed with Nvidia this round it's the first time we've seen 2x performance jump probably since the GTX 8800 era.
>>54441868
You seem retarded. Promptly kill yourself.
>>54441868
hahaha that's the most idiotic thing ive read today
>>54441868
>2x performance jump
oh boy you are in for a surprise when independent benchmarks come out
>>54439879
what are you even on about poorfag
a 290x/390x is like what, $300 (maybe outdated pricing)
a 1070 is $400 and shits all over anything by amd
>>54441868
>twin 1080's
LOL why not just wait for the 1080 ti it will blow this one out of the water.
Fuck sake you have a 980 jsut keep it
>4K meme
WEW
>>54440005
with a $2.5k budget for a pc you could easily get a top-tier gpu
if you cheap out and pay like $150 for a gpu, you don't even get your money's worth, it's not even better than a quite old gpu
>>54441858
PSUs are horribly inefficient at low load, so if you buy some 700W PSU for a 400W peak load system you are wasting large amounts of electricity
I'm leaving the US next week so I won't be here when the new cards are released. GPUs are approximately 2-3x more expensive where I live.
Is it stupid to buy a 980ti now to upgrade from my 280x?
>>54441896
>more bait
this is to easy to spot now.
>>54441937
Yes
>>54441940
kill yourself idiot
so an $800 iPhone is ok but a $400 gpu is not? who the fuck are you to judge anyway, nice sour grapes
>>54441955
>so an $800 iPhone is ok but a $400 gpu is not?
who even mentioned iphones
>>54441943
well then, guess I'll save my cash
>>54441963
>/g/ - phones and gaymen
>>54441896
AMD is announcing new GPUs literally the week before the 1070 comes out.
>>54441878
>>54441890
No actual argument, discarded,
>>54441894
Sure I'm willing to see if they're accurate or not, given the node shrink being unprecedented in size I don't see why not, we'e seen jumps like that in that.
>>54441901
The premiums on the Ti and TitanX like parts are so high especially in the UK that it's really just more cost effective to do something like 980 SLI or 1080 SLI this round.
4k isn't a meme, game look fucking amazing on a 4k IPS 32" monitor, it's just the top 5% or so of games require you to drop out of ultra settings to get a good enough frame rate.
>>54441924
Your image proves my point. Efficiency that matters most is during load since it can consume anywhere between 4-6x idle wattage. 700W for 400W load is pretty much a sweet-spot in terms of efficiency. It all depends on how one is going to use it and proper considerations should be taken regardless.
>>54441924
>he is afraid of running out of electricity
oh wow how does it feel to live in Africa?
>tfw patiently waiting with my 780ti on 1440p for a single gpu that can power 4k
Comfy as fuck, SLI and CF setups are dogshit so I won't resort to those. Perhaps the big Pascal gpu or vega gpu's will do it
>>54441943
It's not though if GPUs cost literally 2-3x. Buy a 980ti and sell your GPU in your shithole to break even.
>>54442001
i'd avoid going multi-gpu unless you're going for something top-tier like 1080 SLI, i wouldn't recommend 980 SLI, "buy a single high-end gpu" isn't a meme
>>54440622
Get skylake/kabby lake and the 1080. It'll be whats out that meets yours goals. Maxwell is ancient history now.
>>54441995
the claimed perf increase is ludicrous, i doubt amd can even match it, and amd has shit driver support anyway
>>54442013
a 80 Plus Gold PSU is certified 87% efficient from 20% all the way up to 100% load, but if you buy a 700W PSU you have to consume at least 140W to reach that efficiency level. Since your PC is consuming less than 100W 90% of the time your PSU is only running at 75% efficiency or worse
>>54442042
Yeah that's what I mean, i'll likely get 1080 SLI, a single card will be fast for sure but 4k is a hard res to push and ideally I'd like to be running things like GTAV maxed out.
Plus it's a great long term investment for gaming, that set up will last 3-4 years easily, plus I can flog my current 980 to put towards the cost so works out pretty good overall.
>>54442100
>PC hardware
>long term investment
neverobsoletepc.jpg
>>54439845
I'm blown away.
There's no way in hell AMD is going to match that. Hopefully they win over the price/performance crowd again but all things considered, $600 for that is worth it. I'm going to hold off until I see some real-world testing though
>>54441901
>4k a meme
Did you ever hold a 110 Pixels per inch phone next to a 400 ppi one?
Did you notice the difference is sharpness is really apparent?
Right now most FHD monitors are on ~100 ppi, QHD monitors are like ~120 ppi.
So we still have a long way to go before increasing resolution on monitors becomes a meme
>>54440459
I played Mass Effect 1-3 on 4k with my 670 ;)
>>54442127
Amd won't match it, at least not with Polaris, they will aim for the middle segment which is where most cards are sold anyway, so its a smart move.
Even though we here are impressed with 'the fastest card of the moment' mainstream cards are sold the most.
The gtx 970 is the most used cards on steam right now, and they are looking to beat that, at a lower price point
>>54442142
Yeah and you need a fucking $1200+ in GPU's to run it.
Then on xfire/sli you have frametime and microstutter and deminishing return issues.
>>54442127
Polaris 10 is already confirmed 25% smaller.
It will perform at least like a 1070 but be noticeably cheaper because it's a smaller die.
>>54442162
>Yeah and you need a fucking $1200+ in GPU's to run it.
Only if you want maxed out settings, honestly the difference between high and ultra settings is often not even noticable, and the difference between 4 or 8x aa on 4k will not be that noticable either.
Gaming on 4k on high settings with some stuff turned down that doesn't matter much anyway is already doable with the 980ti and will definately be doable with the 1080.
If you think those cards are too expensive then wait for the next generation
>>54442171
>It will perform at least like a 1070
How did you arrive at that conclusion?
>>54442157
1070 is in the same price range as the gtx 970 is/was, there's no point in buying a gtx 970 equivalent for $300 when you already have a 970 and you can get something that completely blows it out of the water for $380
>>54442186
Same effective die area (1070 is a 1080 with 25% disabled shaders), rumors point to 980ti performance
>>54442197
>1070 is in the same price range as the gtx 970 is/was,
Not exactly, it will be 50 dollars more expensive.
Polaris 10 will beat the 970 aswell, but it most likely will be about 10% slower than a 1070. But significantly cheaper.
>>54442197
The launch edition is $450.
It will be weeks or months before you can buy the $380, which is still more expensive than 970.
Meanwhile Polaris 10 is supposedly launching at $300-$350
>>54442203
>rumors point to 980ti performance
No they don't, there has been one graph that implied it, and that wasn't something that came from AMD or was confirmed by them. Most of what they said so far confirms that it will be a 'mainstream card'. My guess it it will be in between the 980 and 980ti but below the 1070
>>54442214
>Polaris 10 is supposedly launching at $300-$350
Polaris 10 is many different cards.
>>54442226
No it isn't
>>54442162
>Yeah and you need a fucking $1200+ in GPU's to run it.
Depends, I run 4k on a single 980 and of my ~550 steam games maybe only 10 or so don't run maxed out, so for the most part it's playable.
Playing stuff like GTAV which is demanding you can get away with medium settings and it still looks good.
>>54441125
Get a 380x and enjoy the miracles of decent price/performance
>>54440054
f-freak?
>>54442218
mainstream is defined by price, not performance.
1070 is too expensive because it is a cut down version of the 1080 chip.
Polaris 10 is a smaller chip and in its fully enabled form will compete with the 1070. Being smaller means better yields and thus it will be more cost efficient than the 1070.
>>54442226
it's practically confirmed to be two different cards
>>54440694
besides the fact that 400$ headphones are actually 90% placebo, a new 400$ graphics card is not, it actually improves the performance of your PC
you audiophiles are actually the worst kind of extremists
you don't kill people but you shittalk yourself and other people in spending all your/their money on audio equipment that's only improving sound quality in your imagination and no matter how many people try it and tell you there's no difference you just stick with "BUT MUH SOUND"
man I hate you faggots with the force of a thousand suns
meanwhile I listen music with my 60€ headphones on my pc and 10€ plugs on my phone and it sounds not a tidbit worse than with your equipment
>>54442253
>mainstream is defined by price, not performance.
Its actualy defined by both
>>54442253
>Polaris 10 is a smaller chip and in its fully enabled form will compete with the 1070
Again this assumption that a much smaller die will compete with the 1070, what do you base this on?
>>54442253
you're delusional, the gtx 970 wasn't too expensive, so why would the 1070 be too expensive. we don't have any evidence to suggest that polaris will be more cost efficient than 1070, maybe cheaper but not necessarily more performance relative to the cost
When will Polaris 10 be released?
new AMD CPU with DDR4 support to justify a complete PC upgrade when?
>>54442256
kill yourself idiot
>>54442283
1070 is a 25% cut down 1080
Polaris is almost exactly 25% smaller than 1080, but on 10% denser node.
>>54442302
mad audiophile detected
>>54442302
You first faggot.
>>54442303
a denser node could be more expensive and have more issues with performance and yield
>>54440123
Where retards like you even come from? It is said that 1080 will be about 20-30% faster than 980Ti. 2X fast in VR!
>>54442318
And what does AMD have that offers 980Ti performance?
Oh thats right NOTHING and the closest card is the Fury X which is only 4gb
>>54442318
Who gives a fuck.jpg.avi.org.com
>>54442312
idiotic poorfag sperg that can only think in black and white detected
get any $1-10 earphones off of ebay
notice how utter shit they are
different audio equipment can have different quality
IDIOT
>>54442301
Zen 6 and 8 cores in October
>>54442292
Computex
>>54440459
No.
>>54442303
Yes and? That still doesn't mean it will compete with the 1070 in terms of performance
>>54442329
>that's all /g/ can use
>default trolling/bait
Nice bait
>>54442345
FUCK OFF IDIOT YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED
>HURR I CAN ONLY AFFORD THESE NO NAME OVER PRICED $60 HEADPHONES
>THOSE $100-400 HEADPHONES ARE COMPLETE SHIT
>N-NO SOUR GRAPES
>>54440397
The 8GB DDR5X 1070 will be $380? Can AMD honestly compete?
>>54442326
Not everyone cares about performance only. I need a great card for muh 1080p at around 250-300 price. Thats where AMD is supposed to strike.
>>54442329
actually did a field experiment once, noticed that the whole line of hama earplugs was shit, damp sound, got a couple pairs for 10€ from vivanco and from this point on nothing got even remotely better in sound quality
30-40-60€ earplugs from sennheiser didn't sound a bit better
only placebo
>>54442348
you just got baited by another anon, that wasn't me
but keep your sour grapes meme, it's shit anyways
>>54442315
it's other way around
>>54442353
you probably already have a card that's about as good for 1080p as the $250-300 card, no point in upgrading, and how can you be this poor that you can't afford to step up a little bit in price to get the proper stuff for a "big purchase" like a pc component
>Paper launch to get reviews in a couple days before AMD announces cards
>"Founders Edition" to justify insane launch prices
>Demo 2100MHz card on stage when spec sheet only says 1733MHz
Nvidia marketing at its finest
>>54442366
not all expensive things are better than cheaper things
not all cheap things are better than more expensive things
>>54442391
kys
>>54442375
No, i have integrated GPU currently. I live in Russia. Multiply 300$X1.5, thats how much it will cost here.
the one guy that keeps shilling polaris 10 sounds like a delusional AMD shareholder
/g/ is poor as fuck you're not influencing any investors with your shilling anyway
>>54442418
>That one guy who keeps shitting on AMD
Here is your (you).
>>54442409
get some of your euro friends to purchase for you and ship it.
>>54439845
Wait until Polaris benchmarks then weigh against how long you need to keep the card.
Pascal still doesn't have hardware async compute, so pascal DX12 won't be as fast as Polaris (unless AMD's 14nm is so incredibly shit that even without async the sheer clockrate of pascal wins)
If you intend to upgrade again as soon as Volta hits, buy Pascal - if you're hoping to hold on for 1-2 generations per card, don't upgrade yet, or go AMD for a single generation.
Pascal will be the DX11 king, Forever, I mean it, no other arch will EVER have the native DX11 performance of Pascal, EVER
>as Volta will be differently focussed, it won't even be able to compete with Pascal on DX11, but by its release, it won't even have to.
Polaris will be DX12 king for this generation, unless nVidia pulls a rabbit from their hat and release Volta in early 2017 (when from what we know Vega10 and the assumed full HBM2 Pascal) then AMD will win in DX12 for the next 2 years.
If Volta is 2018 as currently expected, then it should be a MONSTER chip, nVidia basically released Pascal as a die shrink of maxwell, just to tide things over while they perfect Volta - HBM2 Pascal is a good test too, AMD already has figures and research on HBM from Fiji, nvidia is currently blind there, HBM2 Pascal gives them a released product to test and gain data from before perfecting it Volta.
IF everything is running as I presume, AMD will be the 'graphics king' until 2018, when all hell breaks loose again.
Don't rule Intel out yet either, since nVidia won't relicensice their graphics IP suite to Intel now and AMD has also told them fuck off, they are going to be very butthurt, so much so that some very drastic things might happen in the next year - watch both Qualcomm and Imagination, they're about to disappear...
>Imagination will likely become Apple property though...
>>54442448
Do you have autism?
>>54441150
Thats because consoles run at "low" settings at all times. The developer was payed to use this graphical setting across all platforms.
The EU and USA should just seize all of Nvidia's and AMD's and create a singular, government controlled company
>>54442486
wat
>>54442465
Are you upset by my thorough analysis?
>>54442448
>Pascal still doesn't have hardware async compute,
Are you retarded?
Source
>>54442515
IT DOESNT.
>>54442522
LERL
Nvidia btfo
I can't stop buying new GPUs. I don't even really game anymore. But I need the latest and greatest hardware. How to stop?
>>54442522
If true then it doesn't matter. Devs just make games that run well on Nvidia because they have 80+% of the market.
>>54442531
you are trying to fill a void in your life by an imaginary "progress" of buying a better GPU. You need to find that progress elsewhere in your life.
>>54439845
GTX 1080 is announced! Costs $600!* Cheaper than 980ti and absolutely blows it's socks off.
>*700%+19%MwSt in Europe
1070 is around $400 apparently. Faster than the Titan X.
>*550$+19%MwSt in Europe
