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VS2015 adds telemetry calls to every binary now.
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VS2015 adds telemetry calls to every binary now.
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>>54434470
so are there any calls to winsock or winhttp in there?
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>>54434470
post feet
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It probably gets sent through windows and not the binary, the binary just collects the info
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>>54434488
No fucking clue. It's an undocumented API.
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>VS
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>>54434488
If the binary call telemetry library, it's up to the library to implement winsock or winhttp, not the binary itself.
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>>54434541
so which dll does it import the telemetry functions from?
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>microcucks will defend this
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>>54434470
>not posting relevant disassembled function

Get out of here with your fake shit and IDA pro meme.
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>Even a Hello World on Windows contains botnet.
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>Compiling anything in Visual Studio
>VSHub running in the background, sending your build data to Microsoft server.
No wonder Microsoft are running out of disk space lately.
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>>54434470
You should have listened
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>>54434470
>not editing your own binaries before compiling

You get what you deserve desu
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>>54437363
>editing your own binaries before compiling
u wot
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>>54437363
>using an outdated os
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>>54437363
>not using a hex editor
babbys first assembly?
what are you a normie?
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the hell are you nerds talkiing about
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It's official.

Ditch Botnetsoft
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>>54434488
>>54434541
>>54434642
waiting for op to respond
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Shit.
>>54434642
VCRUNTIME140.dll (Visual Studio 2015's DLL)
>>54434488
Not in the executable. I'll check the dll.
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>>54437700
So, VCRuntime140.dll does not seem to connect to any dll that goes online.

That doesn't make it much better though, it may write data to a log file, which gets sent.
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I find it hillarious that the people shitting on Windows ITT are posting from distros running systemd or fucking OSX

Privacy is fucking dead
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>>54437859
You run process hacker or just do it with ollydbg and see what other api calls it makes. I would check it myself but my internet too slow to download newest visual studio.
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>telemetry means botnet/spyware
Nice meme
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//-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
//
// Telemetry
//
//-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
// Telemetry: Invoked when the exe/dll are invoked. There are two different
// implementations in telemetry.cpp and telemetrydefault.cpp. Because GetModuleFileName
// is not available for Store apps, we return an empty string in telemetrydefault.cpp
// when invoked by store apps. For the desktop in telemetry.cpp, it returns the name
// of the module which invokes main/dll. This method is also responsible for firing the
// events associated with Tracelogging. This will help with runtime telemetry for analysis.
void __cdecl __telemetry_main_invoke_trigger(const HINSTANCE instance);

// Telemetry: Invoked when the exe/dll are shutdown. There are two different
// implementations in telemetry.cpp and telemetrydefault.cpp. This method is
// responsible for firing the events associated with Tracelogging. This will
// help with runtime telemetry for analysis.
void __cdecl __telemetry_main_return_trigger(const HINSTANCE instance);
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people really are being retarded now
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If you're running in debug, maybe this?

http://stackoverflow.com/a/33153720
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>>54438008
Whats so bad about systemD other than its horrible logo?
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>not using cygwin with gcc
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all good ide's do this
https://www.jetbrains.com/company/privacy.html
see intellij
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>>54439391
use msys2
comes with mingw64 where you can install clang, gcc, etc.
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>>54439349
so if you don't participate, microsoft will take your source code?
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>>54439407
yeah i mostly use cygwin because im too lazy to move stuff over to another POSIX environment, but msys works too
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>>54438008
systemd violates the user's privacy? Please bring that up as a separate thread.
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>>54439391
>>54439407
mingw is trash, do more than fizz buzz and you'd know
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>>54434470
What debugger/disassembler is that?
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>>54439504
ida pro (aka uberkike shit)
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can you use ida pro on ida pro
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>>54439537
you have my blessing
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>>54438008
systemd is free software, it is a lot more readable than the bash scripts people used to use.
I have not seen an implementation of it where it phones home.
Systemd might make of a more common attack surface for all gnu/linux distros and something new people have to learn, but it isn't malicious
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>>54439537
that's illegal
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>uses non-free compiler
>surprised that it's evil
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Oh no, what will Microsoft do to me?
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Kinda reminds me of North Korea tagging files on the filesystem.
100% botnet
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>>54440905
Are you one of Artificial academy's coders?
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>>54440905
>BladderCapacity
>UrineFlowRate

I'm reporting this post to the FBI.
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>>54437529
I would but boku no drivers
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>>54440905
>chloroformTimer

toplel
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>>54440905
>SimLoli
>DNA
>GeneticStats
>Soul
u fucking wot m8
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>>54440905
Lolidev in the /g/ouse.
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>>54441032
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>>54434527
>>>/tg/47138382
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>>54440905
>.hpp
literally what's wrong with you dude.
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>>54440905
Kek
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>>54440980

Well, the American government already helped me with that by providing statistics for urine flow rate of lolis.
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>>54440905
Is the source available?
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>>54440905
>animepedophiles
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>>54441143

On a private repo. last June's sourcecode is still up along with a windows build if you want me to link it.

>>54441161
>implying I don't like 3D lolis more than 2D lolis
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>>54441191
Post the link senpai.
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>>54441191
do it
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>>54441191
>>54441104
>>54441051
>>54440905
>tfw this faggot got us all on a list

why do I even come here anymore.
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>>54440905
>programming a full functional software to feed pedophilia
just kill yourself, stop releasing carbondioxide and wasting our oxygen
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>>54441051
>charcoal black nig lolis
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Considering most Visual Studio users are Indians, it's not the worst idea to monitor them.
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>>54441262
>/src/Police/Crime.hpp
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>>54441320

Yeah, it's like a high-score list when you die, gif related.
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>stdafx.h

Is it only with precompiled headers or also blank projects?
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>>54440905
>>54441262
you are the hero internet needs
good luck lad
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>>54441191
>>54441104
>>54441051
>>54440905
>>54441262
>>54441354


/g/ - Degeneracy
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>>54441399
you don't have to include anything even int main (){} gets it
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>>54434470
I got no telemetry calls in the ASM output on VS 2015 desu senpai.

Windows 8.1.
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>>54434470
gimp has improved as I can tell
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>>54434470
>I compile without checking compilation options

Wow.

Try to compile in release for a start.
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>>54436296
Richard Stallman is a delusional retard, fuck him. I'll continue to use windows and not use his shitty communist OS.
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>>54442159
>I enjoy being a slave. My master provides me with food and shelter!
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>>54442170
>I enjoy being free. I'd rather starve to death in a desert while reading a 12 mile long manual page on how to open a bottle of water!
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>>54442233
>bashing communism
>not enjoying being free
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>>54442140
>implying they give you an option
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>>54442431
Dude there are so many compile options on Microsoft compilers, even Microsoft doesn't know half of it.

At some point there was even an option to exploit a flaw in the executable signature and pass it as genuine Microsoft software.
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>>54442140

/g/ isn't about facts it's about opinions
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>>54434470
>2006
>using Visual Studio for C++
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>>54440905
>tfw he stole my idea
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BOTNET
O
T
N
E
T
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>>54441262
Fixed it up for gcc/Linux. Works with gcc 6.1.1.
Also supplied a CMakeLists.txt that additionally turns on a bunch of warnings, but no -Werror because I can't be fucked to clear all warnings atm. Only tested with gmake & gcc. You might need to use dos2unix on those text-files for them to properly load.
http://pastebin.com/gW5Yrddu
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>>54440905
>>54441104
>>54441262

Based C++14 making lolis real
Your code is beautiful
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It's for debugging.
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>>54438008
What's wrong with systemd other than that it's buggy and forcing its massive cock down linux distro maintainers throats?

posted from my OpenRC system
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>>54437859
it could go through some undocumented nt syscall that does all the communicating
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>>54438008
>posting from puppy
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>>54438008
Systemd isn't botnet. It's bad in other ways, but in no way it violates user privacy.
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>>54443356
.................yet
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Telemetry is a good thing.
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>>54443400
0/10
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>>54440905
Will you publish this code in the future?
I think it will make a huge advance in the loli engineering field.
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>>54440905
autism.png
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>>54441191
you are my role model
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>/g/ will never be technololigy again
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Oh look, Stallman was right again, carry on.
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>>54443582
How is complex human simulation with deep attention to detail NOT technology?
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>>54436296

There is no system but gnu and lonox is one of its kernels.
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>>54439399
I'm not seeing anything about telemetry on that page. Just usual web tracking stuff. Quote?
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>>54439399
AFAIK Jetbrains doesn't fucking inject spyware into your bytecodes
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>>54441104
>actual research on topics was done
topkek
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>>54441052
Show me you're feet
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https://habrahabr.ru/post/281374/

Here is breakdown.
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>>54439399
All good IDEs inject spyware into your program while compiling?
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>>54445590
Microsoft users actually believe that
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>>54440905
>>54441104
I'd employ you in a heartbeat if I had the chance. Superb C++ right there.

When's your loli rape simulator coming out?
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>>54444087
It's not a spyware. It's fuckin logs for program, that not sent anywhere and disabled by default.
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>>54446309
Stupid microcucks.

Oh look another one:
>>54446869
It's enabled by default and since it's undocumented it's obviously not for developer use. It's probably picked up by another telemetry component and sent along.
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>>54447793
>It's enabled by default and since it's undocumented it's obviously not for developer use. It's probably picked up by another telemetry component and sent along.
Microsoft does actually collect telemetry of compiled programs including entire memory dumps (when it crashes), and send it to Microsoft.

Developers of applications can then access these crash reports through Microsoft in order to “debug” their user's problems. (While also spying on everything they're doing, of course)
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dont care fuckers one word video games
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>>54446869
>muh .etl files don't go out the port

not what task scheduler says
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>>54447793
read this post dipshit: >>54439217
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>>54439349
That's the new business model. Scrape all source code to try to find a new business model.
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>>54440905
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>>54448730
>>54447793
It's ETW clone

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb968803%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

Not everything that has telemetry in it's name is spyware
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>>54439444
that's what it suggests
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https://www.reddit.com/r/cpp/comments/4ibauu/visual_studio_adding_telemetry_function_calls_to/
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>>54449038
>Not everything that has telemetry in it's name is spyware
Then it's a misnomer. “Telemetry” literally implies the data being sent to a remote receiver.
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>>54440980
wait, pissing is illegal?
oh, shit..
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Windows is over.
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uh
this is a hackintosh actually
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>>54449203
fuck posted in wrong thread
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>>54449191
NO
VIDEO GAMES
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>>54449203
Ohh the UI of old OS X was GOAT. Why did they go with flat colors with material design meme?
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>>54434527
>>54437517
>>54438222
>>54439263
>>54442971
>>54443400
>>54445391
>>54447973
>>54448890
>pajeet trying this hard to derail
kek
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>every windows program might be botnet now
thats it
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>>54449349
>might

also
>thats it
yeah right, as if you'll switch
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>>54449383
Already switched on desktop m8
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>>54434470
https://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p761-thompson.pdf

the mad man predicted this
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Wow, why was the post showing the genetics for black lolis deleted? Or was it the pastebin? Am I not allowed to post a zip of my sourcecode on /g/?!

>>54442898

You're probably the 10th person to do that. The main build already works on GCC and linux, but it just didn't for the June 2015 build. I kinda forgot about that.

>>54446518

Probably 2023 or so.

>>54442935
>>54443530

Thanks!

>>54445000

Did you really expect anything less?
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>>54450464
how can I follow you
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>>54434470
It's not that bad if you ignore it.
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>>54440905
RIP anon.
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>mfw captcha is "select all candy"

>>54451262

I had a 2^3 -chan thread on /agdg/ but it kind of 404'd after a year or so due to hitting the bumplimit. I could make a new one I guess. Unless you have any other suggestions of a permanent anonymous location?
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>>54443389
It's open source you nigger. People will just fork it if it gets a dose of telemetry.
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>>54441354
its like GTA 1 for rapists.
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>>54451885
Twitter
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>>54440905
dude how can i get an updated version?
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>>54454454

It's pretty broken right now due to some restructuring (ie dungeon no longer accessible, police not there). Just play the 0.2 version from June 2015.
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>>54454736
no i mean just in general. i love the idea and i'd like to get updates.
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>>54454736
where do i get the june version?
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>>54455288

http://pastebin.com/M04855fv
see >>54442898 if youré on linux/compiling with gcc

>>54455062

Well I need a place where I can safely/anonymously have a dedicated place. Know any? Otherwise I guess I'll just make another 2^3 -chan /agdg/ thread.
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>>54437489
>security updates available until 2020
>outdated
Nice b8
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>>54455392
I love you senpai. Please do make the thread.
I am seriously interested. <3
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>>54455392
there is a thread on that-chans agdg asking where youve been
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>>54455392

Why isn't the repo public ?

The world need you, lolidev.
It's cruel to not post whatever progress you make as soon as you can, be it on 4chan /agdg/ or 8
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>>54437700
This has already been discussed. It's not Windows 10 telemetry, it's for handling debugging.

Try compiling for release.
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>>54455651
>>54455583
>>54455531

I made a thread on /agdg/.

The repo's private so I don't have to deal with SJW fucks getting it reported/deleted.
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cool story bro
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>>54455784
If you want, you can host the repo at git.teknik.io. They don't pander to the SJW bullshit and respect your freedom.
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>>54441354
wait a sec... I remember you posted your game on jay pee it was a long time ago.
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>>54457435

Yes, /jp/ OC threads are one of the places I post the most, along with /vg/'s AGDG threads.

/jp/ was also the original place I posted before I posted anywhere else, even when I was just getting ideas for it. Back when it looked like this.
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>>54437363
If you walk through your code using Visual Studio's provided disassembly view, you will NOT see these function calls. Only when you use a third-party application like Ida do the call become visible.
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>>54437363
>using Tor on Windows
And you're worried about Telemetry.
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>>54438008
>I saw it on /g/ so it has to be true!
stick to reddit or phone threads, fucking phone poster
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