Previously on: >>54421478
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>>54433478
I want to do gpu passthrough on a vm. I got so far with ubuntu as setting the vm up and then trying to install the gpu. I got passed posting but the os would lockup when trying to boot up. It occurs to me that I couldnt switch gpus without reinstalling or doing some surgury. So it just occured to me that maybe I need to have both gpus installed at the time of installing the os.
Is that true?
Also in gnome/ubuntu 15.10 I was able to install windows 10 on a drive and install ubuntu after on another drive and the intaller took care of everything in order to dual boot. Even grub was set up nice so I could choose the os when booting up. Can I assume that will still work in 16.04?
Linux is getting waaaay too mainstream
Which BSD flavor should I use?
How much of a pain in the ass actually is it to maintain Arch? I don't mind spending a few hours setting it up but people make it sound like a major timesink in general.
>>54433766
>BSD
>use
lol, you can't ``use'' BSD.
>>54433766
just walked into the wrong neighborhood nigga
>>54433787
>GNU Bash
>Linux penguin
dropped
I work for a company making a more or less poorly managed Linux branch of their software and I want to start testing the shit out of it. What distros do you guys think a software should be tested on?
any of you guys use lili usb creator?
on the final step there is an "options" button but nothing happens when i click it
is it the same for everybody?
>>54433787
Nice more like this.
Also help. >>54433750
>>54433832
How many other OS's uses GNU Bash, Stallman?
>>54433847
Depends on the software. If its for a desktop or laptop Ubuntu and maybe mint.
Most things that come to linux aim for ubuntu and its flavors.
If its server you need to step up to wider array of distros.
If its desktop software no one would blink at coming out ubuntu only. You can add more later if you want. Ubuntu standard gnome/ubuntu kde which is ubuntu plassma mint as well.
>>54433894
Linux doesn't use Bash. If you weren't a tech illiterate, you'd know why.
>>54433894
I'm not Stallman! I would never post on 4chan!
>>54433907
What do you mean? bash is the default shell on most Linux distros, and when it isn't it's still preloaded.
>>54433942
I use busybox with zsh
>>54433990
Please... not again.
everyone talks about pacman fucking up your xorg.conf, wtf does this mean, what happens when it "breaks"? i've enver had a problem running pacman -Syu where it breaks something
I want to create a .zip of each folder in a directory with just the folder's files in each .zip. this is so I can import them into calibre as CBZ's
how do I do this on windows? I'd post in /sqt/, but /fglt/ seems more apt to this problem.
>>54433907
>>54433990
>friendly
>>54433942
The penguin is the mascot of the linux kernel. The kernel doesn't have an interface. Since bash is a GNU tool, it should be the GNU logo.
>>54433896
I was told it was mostly used on CentOS and Redhat. It has both server and front-end GUI applications. I read somewhere that Fedora is close to Redhat, so that's on my list along with CentOS, Ubuntu because it's widely used and Arch to see how it works on a more barebone OS.
What is Mint? How does it compare to other distros?
>>54434048
>how do I do this on windows?
No idea, but on GNU/Linux you just:
for i in *; do zip -r "$i" "$i".zip; done
Come home buddy, windows is evil. :^)
>>54434048
>how do I do this on windows?
see >>54433831
>>54434115
>>for i in *; do zip -r "$i" "$i".zip; done
Actually
for i in *; do zip -r "$i".zip "$i"; done
>>54434091
Mint is a slightly more distant flavor of ubuntu. Just known as linux mint pretty sure there is not much different between the two behind the scenes.
Might as well fire up some vms and try them all. Especially if the software does not require a gpu to be passthrough like photoshop of games.
>>54434115
>>54434129
>arch installation got really fucked after a few months after I fucked with some configs I don't remember
>installed windows just because I needed something that just werks
Ok boys, I'm finally going back to Linux. After my Windows 7 installation fucking up yet again, and my lack of desire to use Windows 8 and not wanting to use 10 (muh privacy). I'm going to try and go back to Linux. I used it years ago when I was like 17, mainly Ubuntu/Mint and then Debian. Is there any real reason not to use Ubuntu. I haven't been following Linux since I left, but I know back then there wasn't but this was before the whole Amazon spyware thing a while back.
(Also if anyone plays WoW/League on Linux and can say how well it works that'd be helpful too. But I doubt anyone here does)
>>54434063
But the penguin is cooler. Has way more personality as well.
Might as well let that thing labor in the field.
>>54434141
Ubuntu is just fine, but recently desktop versions have suffered since canonical is focusing on mobile development more
WoW and League are pretty high on WINE's compatibility list
https://appdb.winehq.org/
>>54434135
Thanks for the advice broseph. If you think there's any other distro I should include, please advise. Otherwise I'll stick to the list I made.
>try to install Debian
>A step has FAILED: Select and Install software (it did this like 5 times)
>Try to install Funtoo
>X11 doesn't work, at all
>Install Arch
>Everything just works out of the box
So where does all the hate for Arch come from?
What is the best text editor for GNU/Linux?
>>54434190
You fucked up if you didn't get X11 working on funtoo, it's really simple.
Most people just get tired of fan boys like you spreading crap about other distros.
>>54434208
gedit
>>54434167
>focusing on mobile development more
EVERYTHING IS TURNING TO SHIT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE IT "mobile-friendly"
>>54434190
/g/ hates Arch because tripfagging desktop thread weebs run it. They pretty much ruined the distros reputation.
>>54434221
Nope, Funtoo fucked up.
I ran startx and it didn't do shit. It said it couldn't connect to my display even though I specified intel in my make.conf
>>54434190
arch users are notorious elitists
no one likes those types of people
>>54434239
>all people who %s are bad
>>>/pol/
>>54434167
I see, thanks. Is the Amazon thing still on by default or have they gotten rid of it due to the backlash?
Also, with the new expansion for WoW coming up. I'm assuming I'd have to wait for it to be supported via WINE before I could play it?
Also
>focusing on mobile development more
W H Y
>>54434237
Ok son, sure.
Two extremely popular distros failed on very basic steps yet for you yet apparently the magical arch works fine. Whatever you say.
>>54434239
And what about the Arch users that don't give a fuck about any of that stuff?
>>54434254
>I see, thanks. Is the Amazon thing still on by default or have they gotten rid of it due to the backlash?
I don't know, it's easily removeable though
>Also, with the new expansion for WoW coming up. I'm assuming I'd have to wait for it to be supported via WINE before I could play it?
no idea
>>54434276
those are the cool ones. nothing bad to say about those.
>>54434269
>emerge xorg-server
>emerge x11 package
Hmmm they installed fine, so not sure why startx wouldn't have worked.
>>54434254
>>I see, thanks. Is the Amazon thing still on by default or have they gotten rid of it due to the backlash?
It's still there, but not enabled by default anymore.
Jesus christ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbWOPF6_Pp8
>>54434324
lol that compiz, it's like i'm in 2008
>>54434324
I puked in my mouth
I'd just like to interject for a moment. There is something especially female users should know about me.
![2016-05-07 20_08_08-ArchVM [En fonction] - Oracle VM VirtualBox.png](https://i.imgur.com/4bLDgZo.png "2016-05-07 20_08_08-ArchVM [En fonction] - Oracle VM VirtualBox.png")
Speaking of Arch. I'm the guy who posted >>54434135.
I just popped the Arch Linux iso into Virtual Box and it's literally just a shell.
What the fuck?
>>54434368
>>54434370
Now you install Arch.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/beginners%27_guide
>>54434368
arch is so great you have to use a 3rd party installer written in spaghetti bash
>>54434477
No, you just use your eyes. >>54434450
every time i set up a new linux box i get better at it
loving this
this time i had the bright idea to copy my .vimrc and .bashrc
still had to install git and clone vundle though... i should automate that
I recently did an upgrade to dist-upgrade and this shit happened. I have no idea what's going on, maybe a reinstall to the arc theme will fix it?
>>54434477
If you can't install Arch, you don't need Arch.
Choose a beginner distro.
I last used Ubuntu in 2012, and I quit using it because it was a memory hog and very bloated. I was getting better performance on win7.
Has it gotten any better since then? If not is there an alternative linux distro that is accessible to a beginner?
>>54434450
Kids these days need everything spoon fed to them. I swear next generation everyone will be illiterate.
>>54434503
it is a great feeling that.
>>54434526
arch is a beginner distro, good for learning the shell and nothing else
>>54434509
It did, all's good.
>>54434550
fuck off busyboxfag
>>54433478
Who is the other guy?
>>54434566
>still buthurt
![2016-05-07 20_27_21-ArchVM [En fonction] - Oracle VM VirtualBox.png](https://i.imgur.com/ETjs7AL.png "2016-05-07 20_27_21-ArchVM [En fonction] - Oracle VM VirtualBox.png")
>>54434450
I tried typing install arch and install arch please and it started making fun of me. This is not a very professional development platform.
>>54434627
Have you tried to turning it off and on again?
>>54431968
You can still run them but they're unprivledged verions and systemd wont acknowledge their existance,causing further problems
>>54434663
NO PAJEET THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA
>>54433847
If you are going to have to support it then ubuntu because you will get most support requests from ubuntu cucks who can't rtfm
>>54434532
Ubuntu is great, just pick a lighter DE depending on the specs of your computer. I'm running Unity on a Thinkpad X220 now and it's running great, though I have an i5 and 8gb of RAM.
If you want a lighter experience, go for Ubuntu MATE. Ubuntu is still the best all around linux distro, but fedora is also quite easy to use if you're willing to do some config/enabling 3rd party repositories at first.
>>54434208
ed is the standard editor
How to use GNU/Linux but stay /fit/ at the same time?
>>54434552
Thats gtk3 3.20 for you.
I cant even get the darker version to work,it just loads the whtie version
>>54434817
/fit/ is depricated. Virtual reality is the future.
>>54434817
you don't, now go away
>>54434817
I think you mean linux.
>>54434817
start by not calling it gnu/linux
>>54434817
nope. only unix users can
>>54434627
I am still installing Arch. This is the longest-ass fucking Linux installation ever. It's downloading literally everything it installs off reps, which doesn't make sense because a normal installation takes about 800 mb and the disc is about 700 mb. What is all that shit on the disc for?
>the kernel is downloading at 40 kb/s
why isn't the fucking kernel on the installation disc
>>54435384
It is
>>54435384
u wot m8
>>54435384
>40 kb/s
i was dreaming of such speeds back in 56k days
>>54433806
I -Syu once a week and nothing has broken, without user error on new configs migration
>>54433832
>>54433894
>>54433907
Unless the distro changes your shell, its /bin/sh
>>54434023
I dont have an xorg.conf
If you have an xorg.conf,your system is old and
misconfigured.
>>54435666
Limewire low res picture porn.
People these days have no idea what they have.
>>54435522
>>54435606
When following the instructions on the Arch Linux website, it download the kernel off the repositories. The disc only serves as a shell Live CD to partition my disc, do some premilinary config then literally install the entire distro through fucking pacman.
>>54433806
It hasnt seriously broken for a couple years. I however know people who keep a vm copy of their shit and update that before their actual machine just to make sure. Also they got familiar with how to undo a update just in case and keep copies of the old packages for about three updates back.
Alright guys,
So I just finished an Arch install and have Xfce installed with GDM as a display manager. What are some other must have software?
>>54435760
whatever you need
Total Linux newbie here. I'm building a new PC at the end of the month once I get my paycheck. I've never used linux before because I'm worried about running games with it. Am I just a moron? Is it easy as shit to get games made for windows to run on linux? Enlighten me please.
>>54435760
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software
>>54435808
Depends on what games. Some have official linux support, some work fine through wine, some work though wine but run like shit, some not at all, etc.
>>54435837
How do I find out what games will work?
>>54435882
appdb would be a great place...
Down to 90gb on my media folder.Where are places to look for extra large files that arent obvious,or a way to show the largest data hog?I've got 200gb of stuff im waiting to download because im out of space,and have deleted things i dont need anymore.
New hd isnt an option,all drive bays are full and i dont trust usb storage.Ideas?
>>54435882
google the name of the game + "on linux"?
>>54435384
>even after all that waiting, xorg is not preloaded, nor is any DE.
So this is what they meant by "timesink OS"
>>54435934
>>54435917
>>54435837
Well like in your experience what percentage of games would you say work and what ones don't?
Also what is wine? You mention they might work through it but I've never even heard of it before.
>>54435931
ncdu -x /the/partitionthatisfull
on debuntu there is dpigs from the debian-goodies package to rank packages by installed size.
>>54436040
Perhaps you can go to appdb,and search your favorite games,or open up steam and check the li nux/steamos section.Or go on gog.
We dont know what you like,nor how many games are created in the world,to give you a percentage of
>>54434817
Literally install gentoo.
Between compilations, exercise.
>>54435936
>tfw installing Xfce and some of its dependencies are forked directly off GNOME
Goddammit. I don't want this abomination to touch my Linux.
>>54436088
Upvoted for best answer.
>>54436102
use fluxbox
its a fork of blackbox and has sane config files,in plaintext,not xml like openbox.
Is there a program that automatically selects all pictures of bodies of water such as oceans and rivers?
>>54436040
If you're trying to use linux and you can't google simple things like that, you're going to run into some problems fyi. As >>54436072 said, no one knows what games you like, just look it up.
Wine is software allows some windows programs to run on linux. It's usually the next-best thing if the program isn't natively supported.
>>54436157
>>54436072
Yeah yeah alright, I was just trying to get some active users personal experience instead of just browsing around but yeah I'll definitely look at appdb. Thanks guys
![2016-05-07 22_30_38-ArchVM [En fonction] - Oracle VM VirtualBox.png](https://i.imgur.com/2gMRFWW.png "2016-05-07 22_30_38-ArchVM [En fonction] - Oracle VM VirtualBox.png")
>>54436102
>installed xorg, xterm (a xorg dependency that for some reason wasn't there) and xfce
>start x
>three shell windows at arbitrary places
>start xfwm
>there's window graphics around the shells now
it's beautiful
this feels like finding my way out of a big forest with a map that shows nothing but terrain height
Is there anyway to make a Samba share not discoverable?
Its not like I don't have a password but I'd like to avoid any questions on the network.
>>54433942
The Linux kernel does not use bash, bud.
>>54436514
>linux distros
nice reading comprehension
>>54436531
Try using your stellar reading comprehension to read the fucking thread
>>54436580
The discussion was about a bash cheatsheet having the Linux logo on it. Some faggot implied that it was misleading to imply that a cheatsheet for bash was a "Linux" cheatsheet. My argument was that no OSes other than Linux had bash on it. Then one or more autismoes started arguing about whether or not Linux "used" bash even though I was OBVIOUSLY NOT IMPLYING THAT THE KERNEL SENT OUT COMMANDS TO THE BASH SHELL.
What kind of fucking reading comprehension is this exactly? Do you constantly, compulsively misconstrue what you read so that it sounds stupid and then you can point out how it's stupid to get your ego off?
People use bash on Linux. People don't know bash, therefore they don't know how to use Linux. A bash cheatsheet is hence for Linux users. This has nothing to do with whether or not Linux "uses" bash. To dig further into this question is acting like a GNU drone for the sole purpose of being a dick-nosed annoying GNU drone.
>>54436478
1) rtfm
2) man smb.conf /hide files
3) man smb.conf /browseable
3) man smb.conf /include = if you put the line eginclude = /etc/samba/smb.conf.%min the top level of you smb.conf then samba will include other config files of that pattern with %m replaced by the clients netbios name so you can put "private" shares in them. It is spoofable but all you are asking for is obscurity anyway.
>>54436291
Alright guys I'm at a loss here.
So like I said, I installed xfce and xorg. I can start xfce just fine once I logged into the shell. Is there anyway I can configure arch to launch a graphic session manager and prompt me to select a user like other distros do?
>>54436841
display manager
>>54436733
Thanks, just tested and worked fine.
>>54436725
bash is a component of the GNU operating system, which is entirely independent from the Linux kernel.
Labeling a wallpaper that primarily details commands usable in GNU as a "Linux cheatsheet" is silly. GNU is usable on other kernels (the FreeBSD kernel, for instance, and to some extent, Darwin), and the Linux kernel is often used on its own, without GNU (Android).
I do not "compulsively misconstrue" the name "Linux"; instead, too many people constantly misuse it.
>>54436899
How much aggravation must your autism cause before you stop?
>>54436725
>My argument was that no OSes other than Linux had bash on it.
As I mentioned in my previous post, you're forgetting Debian GNU/kFreeBSD, which uses the FreeBSD kernel, and MacOS X, which includes bash.
>>54436936
>gnu/freebsd
what abomination of conflicting licenses is that?
>>54435936
It's only a "timesink OS" if you don't know what you're doing, or doing already know which software you typically go with.
You're installing Arch I assume.
>>54436841
xinitrc
>>54437005
>if you don't know what you're doing
So literally the entire time period while you're learning this? This works against your argument.
>>54436841
You need to install a Display manager, personally I use GDN (gnome display manager), it JUST WERKS.
>>54436936
You have a good point there but generally when people wonder what to do with a shell, it's because they're being introduced to Linux. I mean Mac OS users rarely depend on a shell for day to day usage, and if you're using FreeBSD without knowing how to use bash then I don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Lol lenucks is for fagits lel neckbeard fedora lelelelel
Red pill me on elementary OS family
>>54437020
It only works against my argument when retards like you claim Arch is a timesink OS because you have no idea what you're doing, and then when you break something because you, once again, have no idea what you're doing you make threads shitting on Arch for no reason.
Kindly fuck off or read the Arch wiki.
>>54437043
The main developer is an autistic retard that drove eOS into the ground.
It is a blatant OSX ripoff, yet the owner will never admit it.
![2016-05-07 23_21_37-ArchVM [En fonction] - Oracle VM VirtualBox.png](https://i.imgur.com/wDSP3hE.png "2016-05-07 23_21_37-ArchVM [En fonction] - Oracle VM VirtualBox.png")
>>54437021
>>54436865
Thanks guys. Being told the next step without being walking through them is actually making this a solid learning experience.
So anyway, I figure any of these display managers listed on the Arch website will do just fiOH MY GOD WHAT IS THIS
>>54437075
What dm is that lol. Use GDM it is really nice looking.
>>54437069
How did he drive it into the ground?
>>54437045
He's not the guy you originally replied to. I'm him. I chose not to reply to you because you're taking this shit seriously which goes against the very purpose of these threads. This thread is meant to be a continuous learning experience and your "strike the student's hand with a ruler" approach to Linux is toxic.
Also Arch is a timesink OS m8
>>54437097
How is it a timesink OS when I installed it in like 30 minutes? I'm done. Finished. I will not have to tamper, configure, edit ANYTHING at all. It just works for me. So now, friend, I ask you. HOW THE FUCK IS ARCH A TIMESINK OS.
>>54437085
It's called XDM.
I have "personal issues" with GNOME but I guess if it's the only still supported, full-featured one I can get with pacman, I'll have to endure it.
>>54434596
Probably someone from hueland. That shirt is from a soccer team, with its first logo.
Vai curintia!
>>54437118
Probably because you did it a few times before and now you know how to do it?
I've been trying to fix my firewall for hours - I can't seem to get it to accept http on port 80. I already have nginx set up to redirect to port 3000, and when I docurl localhost
I get the 'hello world!' I'm looking for.
How can I delete these 7777 rules?
For the life of me I can't seem to find where these rules are stored (like what files , or how to delete these rules)
>>54437188
Hello. I don't know where the files are located but when I can't find where a file is located and I exausted my solutions, I search for all files containing the text.
find / -type f -exec grep -H "7777" {} \;
You may want to try a few subfolders of / you suspect have it before doing it on your entire filesystem.
Sorry I don't have a more expert solution. Hopefully someone else does, but a trick like that could come in handy later anyway.
>>54437188
>Ubuntu
xD
>>54437225
I tried this before I read your suggestion, and it's still running:sudo find / -type f 2>/dev/null -exec grep "ports 7777" {} \;
Is my command going to work or do I need that -H for my grep?
Hey guys quick question
So I have a thinkpad T420 with Arch installed. Whenever I press the mute button audio mutes fine, but when I press it again so I can unmute the audio, it stays muted. Any idea how I can fix this?
>>54437256
No, I'm getting the same results running your command in a small folder with a predictable search string as with my command. (Tip for when you make a complex time-consuming command: Test it in a predictable setting first.) And it suppresses errors too. Maybe your query is too specific. A config file might not spell it "ports" but rather "port", or maybe won't even use the word port, or have a tab between port and the number.
>>54437353
I meant "No" to needing -H, sorry. Your command works.
>>54433876
>>54433750
Anyone get gpu passthrough working? Should the second gpu be in there the entire time? The ubuntu guide I followed never mentioned when to stick it in I did it when I tried to black list the drivers and couldnt get the os to boot with the second gpu in.
>>54437353
I figured out how to drop the 7777 rules. It took a while; the documentation for iptables is a bit user unfriendly.
Anyway, my firewall is STILL blocking connections from the internet, and allowing things from inside localhost.
this is the thing i hate about being into programming / tech - i like programming and coding and solving problems, but not this kind of problem. this is the kind of thing i don't want to have to give a shit about. this is the kind of thing i want to have "just work". ive spent half my day now trying to get a fucking firewall to work when i could have been actually coding the web app im making. fucking bullshit
>>54437311
xev,xmodmap,xbindkeys
>>54437390
>>54437360
>>54437353
Waaait. No. -H is necessary, or else grep is just gonna display the matching line without telling you which file contains it. But you found it, so that's for future reference.
Anyway, as for your internet issue, I'm really not an expert on these things. First thing I'd do is check if I have SELinux installed and running. If you already did that, you're ahead of me.
Where do I place this windows manager theme I've downloaded from xfce look?
I tried putting it in /usr/share/themes/xfce4 but it still doesn't show up when I try and select it from settings
>>54437398
What?
Laptop Mode Tools or TLP
which one pls
>>54437523
>ask question
>get answer
What?
>>54437558
Both, it's not going to hurt anything. But I just use TLP; it's great for what it does. `sudo tlp start' and then forget about it forever.
>>54437603
You just listed 3 random things ive never heard of. you could actually help me?
>>54437648
Google them?
Search wiki's for them?
Gave you the answer,im not going to spoonfeed
>>54437124
I installed LXDM and I can't enable it as a service because it is "masked". systemctl unmask lxdm does not unmask it.
This is the most Linux OS in the universe. Never have I Linuxed so hard before.
>>54437665
Could you at least tell him what you figure the problem is? Sorry but your answer sounds pretty unhelpful. Listing software implies that the software will fix the problem, but there's a gab between the problem and the software, and the software and the solution.
>>54437708
I told him how to fix it,use those programs to fix it.install and man,or google and find out.
>>54437730
Fuck you
>>54437740
>>54437685
meh, slim is better imo
>>54437759
Shut up
>>54434596
Claudio Prado - Brazil.
>>54437765
slim is dead
>>54437164
Yes, this is my wallpaper now.
Though I'm lying, it's one of my favorite pics atm.
>>54437769
I installed Ubuntu 16.04 in my netbook and appears I do not have graphics driver! There are many causes to this, but I need to know if I did something wrong, ok? So please, help me:
>NO GPU, NO CPU: APU!
>AMD E-240
>wrong screen resolution, adding one by means of Xrandr fucks everything if selected
>checked 'additional drivers', not even one listed there
>I chose 'no proprietary software' when installing
>Ubuntu 16.04 abandoned the first proprietary graphic drivers of AMD, chose new open-source ones still being developed and released
>don't know if AMD will release drivers for my model, that has at least 6 years
So, what do you think?
>>54437782
really? since when?
>>54437786
Stop that
>>54437800
>>54437787
>I installed Ubuntu 16.04
Immediately stopped reading.
>>54437797
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SLiM
>>54437817
well shit, I'm switching over to kde anyways so, I guess I'll rice up kdm
I tried looking the following up but the results were a bit confusing, so if anyone could answer:
What exactly is the gnu/linux terminal? And only Unix has it and the rest is a terminal emulator?
What is bash?
What is shell scripting for?
Thanks in advance
>>54437685
So I managed to remove lxdm by removing its files manually, because pacman failed to for some reason. Then I reinstalled it and enabled. And it keeps cycling back to the login screen when I log in.
Literally one step forward and two steps back.
>>54437847
you can find out what bash is very easily.
>>54437808
First: before I continue replying you, I need to know if you are the troll making useles flamewars in these threads about GNU/Linux. Is it you?
>>54437847
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Bash
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bash
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting
I mounted a disk on my home folder but only root can access it. Do I need to chmod something or do I need to mount the disk somewhere else?
>>54437787
>AMD
you're fucked
>>54438051
Why?
>>54438045
install udevil
>>54437871
>manually
Do not remove anything outside of pacman.
Doing so manually (install or delete) will fuck you up
>>54438170
It worked though. I figure I was trying to uninstall it while it still had files locked. I also figured that some problems with systemctl can be overcome by using the -f option.
The problem was the user didn't have a home folder with the config files. I didn't know you had to use -m with useradd when creating users. Fedora did it automatically. I logged into root and figured it out.
This is what's nice about Arch. You know that if you can work it, you can work any distro, regardless of what it does and doesn't do for you.
I now have a fully functional Arch setup and it only took....
Four and half hours...
>>54438093
What, you don't know?
>>54438275
I don't know. Can you please explain?
>>54438313
Sure, AMD support in linux is abysmal.
What are some great music streamers for Arch such as Pandora or Spotify?
>>54437188
Is that iptables? Because if so they are stored in the kernel :^)
Use iptables -D or some shit to remove a rule.
Might be easier though just to use iptables-save to a file, edit it, then iptables-restore
>>54438415
WHAT???
I thought that Nvidia support was shit!
>>54437188
>>54438492
Eh, read the image, says ufw so man ufw will have something right?
Anyway ther redirect rules are in prerouting and I assume that is ran before the input rules that you have allowing port 80. So maybe allow tcp on port 3000 in the input chain/table/whatever?
>>54438527
BAZOOPER! XD
>>54438540
Now I understand even less. Were you just trolling?
>>54437188
Based on the names of the tables, it looks like they're generated by a tool called ufw, aka "Uncomplicated Firewall"
Maybe this will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
>>54437236
>muh arch is so elite and cool
>>54438568
No. The nvidia drivers are solid once you get them instaled, which can be tricky. The AMD drivers are hit and miss whether they work, also I think there are like 3 of them and half of them (thats right 1.5 drivers) are deprecated?
>>54438568
They're memeing.
radeon (the Linux kernel driver for older AMD GPUs) works well for me, and I've heard good things about amdgpu, the newer driver. But nouveau does exist, and it has sorta worked for me in past.
It's a crapshoot regardless desu
>>54438601
>running nonfree software
>in kernel mode
>>54438609
Appears that my APU does not have driver installed. I did something wrong? How can I be sure that AMD didn't released a driver and I was dumb enough to not being able to get it?
>>54438639
In my experience, the good/libre drivers for the Linux kernel are part of the kernel itself. You don't download them from vendors' websites typically -- they're literally in the kernel source tree, so they're part of the kernel your distribution distributes.
What kernel version are you running? You could try a newer release.
>>54438638
I'm not running Nvidia drivers, nor other proprietary softwares on my installation. Just some binary blobs maybe?
>>54438638
I'm running fglrx
try to stop me
What fonts do I need for japanese/chinese characters?
>>54438711
>In my experience, the good/libre drivers for the Linux kernel are part of the kernel itself.
one half is part of the kernel (i.e. radeon form AMD), the other half is part of xorg (radeonsi)
>>54438639
Hmm, I'm confused now. Some shit website I found on Google says you have a Radeon HD 6310, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver says that's been supported by the "radeon" for a while.
What does this say (copy-pasted from link above)?dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon'
>>54438794
thanks for clarifying my senpai
>>54438711
>What kernel version are you running?$ uname --kernel-version
#37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016
>>54438779
You already got answer few days ago...
Alright, now on to CentOS!
>The full package is 8 gigabytes.
WHO THE FUCK NEEDS 8 GYGABITES OF FREE SOFTWARE!?
>>54438762
BOT
NET
>>54437787
The old software center had a allow third party software option. You should do that. There are open source ones but they are generally terrible. Also there might be amd repository somewhere you mgiht find. I havent dont this in a year dont remember.
>>54438816
Could you do `uname -a` instead? That output is missing the kernel version (3.16, 4.5, etc.)
>>54438844
Doesn't that include every package, though? If so, it's really not that bad.
>>54438875
Well I tried the minimal version of CentOS. Did not come with X, a DM or a DE. I'm done setting up OSes from shells for the night.
>>54437787
You didn't answer my questions in the last thread and copy pasted this here. Read it.
how can i force ruby to crash?
like are there any commands i can put into ruby to make it crash/fuck up in any way?
>>54438803
>What does this say (copy-pasted from link above)?
61 lines about radeon/drm starting. Should I copypaste all them here?
The ones I found interesting are:
>radeon: MSI limited to 32-bit
>radeon: using MSI.
I could not understand. My APU is 64-bit!
>>54438453
Mpv
>>54438779
Noto, cantarell
>>54438927
Throw an exception?
I don't use Ruby, but http://phrogz.net/programmingruby/tut_exceptions.html says you can do:raise "kaboom"
>>54438869
I disabled the option to get proprietary components when installed the OS, because I don't want to be spied on.
>>54438925
I was busy at a crypto event and my netbook wasn't there, obviously. Then, when I returned to the hotel, the thread was already dead and I couldn't answer.
What happened is that usingapt listto search for the packages you mentioned retrieved 0 results in both cases.
>>54438863
>AMD
>BOT
>NET
AMD sucks at software, they're probably launching an internal party after every successful driver release. Even if they'd want my data, they're most likely too incompetent to even collect it, let alone mine profit from it.
>>54438875
>That output is missing the kernel version (3.16, 4.5, etc.)
What? I asked only for the kernel version and the command didn't returned it? Piece of crap!
Here is the version: [i]4.4.0-21-generic[/i].
>>54439008
How about NSA putting developers there to insert spying things?
>>54438984
Sounds like your sources.list actually only has free software sources then. Neat, I didn't know it was possible to install buntu in freedom.
Both packages should exist in your repos.
What does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like? You at least need xenial main restricted multiverse
Maybe you forgot to update them before searching?
>>54439073
>Sounds like your sources.list actually only has free software sources then. Neat, I didn't know it was possible to install buntu in freedom.
I configured this way when installing, see here: >>54438970
>What does your /etc/apt/sources.list look like?
A "txt"consisting almostly of comments.
>You at least need xenial main restricted multiverse
All "restricted"s are commented out. Maybe because they are proprietary, right? Ist's what "restricted" means, right?
>Maybe you forgot to update them before searching?
Hm, I don't know about this, I'm not very skilled (yet?).
>>54439008
>>54438863
>>54438762
>>54438638
>>54439031
>le "every proprietary software is spyware" meme taking over the thread
it's over. this thread is ruined. put it in the quarentine.
>>54439191
>put it in the quarentine
>quarentine
>like, antivirus quarentine
>linux
>no, gnu/linux
>antivirus
>quarantine
BOTNET IS WHAT IS REALY DANGEROUS AND SHOULD BE ON QUARENTINE
BTW, I've put my friends who use W10 on quarantine, and will get rid of them tomorrow.
>>54439157
Comment the ones I said in and save, then use
sudo aptitude update
Aptitude search firmware-amd-graphics
If something returns
Sudo aptitude install firmware-amd-graphics amd64-microcode
Tell me if it works.
>>54439031
Possible, but also possible for their open source drivers. Yes, people can look at the source in theory, but in reality that doesn't happen - just look at heartbleed etc. I also haven't noticed any shady network traffic while my box was idling. They could only send while there's other active traffic, but that would mean that they also need access to network state - and in that case, they might as well place that stuff in the networking code. Not saying it's impossible, just very unlikely.
>>54439249
As I said, all "restricted" sources are already commented.
>>54439259
>Possible, but also possible for their open source drivers. Yes, people can look at the source in theory, but in reality that doesn't happen - just look at heartbleed etc.
Using which device you looked your traffic?
Honestly if you guys don't want to use the proprietary drivers, you don't deserve for your video cards to work properly. There needs to be a limit to gratuitous tinfoilhatism and this is it.
>>54439270
multiverse aswell?
>>54439285
Yes, all repos that have "multiverse" in name are also commented.
>>54439284
What do you have to say about AMD developing new open-source drivers?
>>54439281
BSD-based router build from old/spare PC parts and 5 gigabit cards.
>>54439284
This has nothing to do with tinfoil. This is not about spyware either.
If the drivers were to be free software, the community, game developers and other devs of gpu intensive applications could all learn from it to make their stuff more efficient and stable while improving the drivers as well.
If you want a fully free system, you want a fully free system, not one with nonfree software in kernel space.
>>54439361
Are you running coreboot or EFI?
>>54439325
Damn, buntu is really bad in documentation about these things.
I know the package exists because it's in the dependencies and recommend packages of a few xorg packages but I can't find on buntu otherwise. Debian is really easy comparatively.
Maybe the linux-firmware-nonfree metapackage works, try it.
>>54439455
>nonfree
>BOTNET
>>54439420
Unfortunately that doesn't run on my mobo, my system also uses some microcode because it would not work right otherwise.
But if I could and had the choice between libreboot and uefi, I would definitely pick libreboot.
This is not about me though.
>>54439478
Yes, nonfree software is a bad thing but unfortunately some people still need it so they can use their computers properly. Instead of shouting botnet you could be helpful and suggest hardware components that run fine without binary blobs. Or make it easier to research.
>>54439478
There are free botnets too if you want them.
>>54439518
So, you concluded that there is no open-source driver avaible to me?
>Instead of shouting botnet you could be helpful and suggest hardware components that run fine without binary blobs. Or make it easier to research.
I could not understand what you meant by this. Could you explain, please?
>>54439528
What are you talking about, man?
>>54439737
That was just releated to the post shouting botnet.
There is a lot of hardware that does not need proprietary software to function properly. It is not very easy to find out which hardware runs fine, for this reason people that put effort into shitposting botnet would be better off into making this easier and telling people about it.
>>54439809
I don't know if my APU need proprietary driver or if AMD released an open-source one, it's what I'm asking for help, in order to be able to discover.
>>54439844
You could just see if you get an image and if mpv can display a video file properly. If it works the foss one is good
>>54439923
>If it works the foss one is good
And I have the FOSS one?
>>54433478
How do I install DeaDBeeF on Fedora? They don't have an .rpm package ready to install and it's not available on the repositories.
this town is a big pussy just waiting to be fucked
