why didn't you tell me??
I switched from FF to Opera (developer) yesterday and holy fuck, it's a whole new world
insanely fast and has cool as fuck features
>>54427794
>it's a whole new world
It's called China
Shill
>>54427806
based China
>>54427806
>chinese botnet or american botnet
I'll take the one that isn't obese
>>54427806
I don't think a program's nationality matters.
Why since FF started failing, /g/ is full of fucking browser shills?
>>54427806
>same shitposting every time
you are wasting your life here
>>54427850
>he likes X
>fuck off shill
>he hates X
>BASED ANON
This is the most cancerous site on the internet.
>>54427850
I have my theory on that and it's not actually hired shills.
I think all this (since this issue doesn't concerns browsers exclusively) is done for self justification.
They expect other uncertain people to start using what they're using so they can feel secure in the crowd.
>>54427850
>anyone that likes something I don't like is a shill!
>anyone that dislikes something I like is a shill!
It's been this way forever, and it's never going to change.
>>54427794
I'd use it full-time if you could actually group tabs into their own sections. Opera's tab-grouping is actually really good, since you can group automatically as they open using a regexp, but even though they're grouped in a sidebar, they're still ALL present in the top tab bar taking up room.
>>54428093
they will add that in the upcoming builds
I used it and loved it right until they ditched their own engine and made it basically a fork of chrome.
I remember the first version of the new opera, it didn't even have fuckin' bookmarks, i had to switch to FF and i simply didn't bother to check wether it's worth it to switch bak
>>54428138
Any concrete time-frame?
>>54428141
completely different now
>>54428188
"soon" they said
>tfw China doesn't care about ads
I'm ok with this
>except on 4chen
Nice meme
>>54427806
Opera is a Norwegian company and their development work is done in Norway.
>>54427794
I like latest opera-dev but shame /b/ twats and /tv/ pedos got all vpns banned.
why doesnt netflix work on opera ? i get the massange that I dont have a netflix player?
only reason why I still have ff
>>54428811
I don't understand the pedos' desire to post CP on image boards for general audience.
Opera would be awesome if they would spend just a tiny amount of time implementing the most basic of features. I mean, there's STILL no drop-down bookmarks folder on the toolbar, and no way to middle click the title bar to open a new tab. This is basic shit that should have been there from the start - it boggles my mind how these things are still missing after all this time.
>>54427794
Built in VPN and native adblock is quite based.
>mfw this might make me go back to chropera from vivaldo.
>>54429598
What's the point of adblock/VPN if the browser was sold to a chinese company?
>>54429648
>that forced meme again
just end your miserable life already
>>54428796
No, it's done in Poland
>>54429648
>adblock with custom lists affected by distant chinks somehow
>vpn is run by child company in canadian cuckland
Chinamen are least of my concerns.
>>54429663
>>54429684
How do they make money?
>>54429648
Better than an american company, at least.
>>54429702
How so?
>>54429692
Same way any other browser m8.
But I do expect VPN to become payed if it becomes popular.
>>54429692
Opera is not just a browser, you know that, shitposter?
oh wait, nevermind
>>54429719
what's china going to do with your info?
>>54429943
Don't deflect. Answer my question.
>>54430102
Another anon, but most people use vpn to go around firewalls and sites that might eb blocked. Possibly to hide their torrenting.
None of things are useful to them.
>>54430160
But why is a chinese company more trustworthy than an american company?
To me, I wouldn't trust either company, but I would trust a chinese company even less since there is no legal recourse for anything they might be doing with my data.
>>54427794
Since FF is shit now, should I try Opera? Is it better than Chromium?
>>54430319
it's the best Blink/Chromium based browser. so yes, absolutely
>>54430243
chinks don't understand western memes
>>54430344
better than vivaldi?
>>54430439
considering vivaldi is in beta, unstable and still missing basic features like cookie whitelisting, I'd also say yes
>>54430439
vivaldi is a joke, lad
>>54427918
Underrated
>>54428873
> and no way to middle click the title bar to open a new tab
this works, no?
>>54428873
chrome doesn't even have that, just saying
>>54430439
Speed/responsivnes - yes opera shits on vivaldo.
Features - depends, do you need to tile tabs within same window? Actually one thing I do prefer in vivaldi is the dark theme, wish opera done something like that.
>>54430362
do they have le ebin maynays in chinaland?
>>54427794
>insanely fast
I don't get this meme. All web browser today are fast.
If a website does not load fast, either your connection sucks, and/or the website is unnecessarily bloated.
>>54427794
>has cool as fuck features
>no tab stack
>>54428233
Any proof of that? Because I've seen shills like that often enough.
>I would like to use X, but it doesn't have Y
>They will add Y soon :)
And then it never comes and they never even talked about it. The whole purpose is to get more people to use the product.
>>54431032
vivaldi has it
>>54427794
It's even better on mobile.
>>54427794
>no script blocker
>>54431044
check their blog more often. devs said that in the comment section
>>54427794
Well shit. Fuck sjwfoks opera is indeed faster. No need to wait 10 sec for browser to start (with SSD).
>>54428761
PeerBlock?
>>54431431
yeah, it's instant
How does it compare to Vivaldi?
>>54432815
Vivaldi GUI is written on javascript so expect lags from UI.
>>54432854
V8 is ridiculously fast nowadays, though.
>>54431431
>No need to wait 10 sec for the browser to start (with SSD)
What the fuck were you using before? Firefox is shit now, but it still opens instantly for me.
>>54427794
if you think opera is good, you should try vivaldi. it's made by some guys from the old opera dev team and it's got a way better feel and much better features
>>54433089
complete opposite, actually. it's a fucking disaster
>>54427875
This
>>54427875
It's really just /g/ and a few other boards. There is no other board as toxic and cancerous than /g/ and the other obvious ones like /pol/ and /b/.
>>54433089
Opera is better than Vivaldi.
>>54433454
Never been to /mu/ I see
>>54433769
>top 140 pixels completely wasted
gg
>>54433788
>>54433769
isn't there a way to 'fix' that? I know that chrome allows you to force that title bar or whatever
>>54427794
I've been using Opera for forever, just switched to Vivaldi, and honestly it's a fair bit better.
What's better:
>works more smoothly in general, including mouse gestures and general browsing
>chrome extensions
>appearane is more customizable in general
>UI is more minimalistic
>when not in fullscreen the UI is still very thin, albeit a tiny bit thicker, while Opera's is much more so
>unless I'm missing something, the tab stacking was removed from Opera but it's still there in Vivaldi
What's worse:
>Opera's start page icons are better
>in Vivaldi I can't remove this bar to the left with downloads, bookmarks and whatnot, I'm fine with it being there when it's open but at least make it a button or something jesus christ
It's pretty good, but it doesn't let you drag images from one tab to another to use for e.g. google image search.
>>54434961
There is a button for that bar on the bottom of the window or go into settings
>>54435550
Ah I completely missed the "show panel toggle" option for some reason, yeah this is exactly what I want.
Thanks friend.
do you care/like open source software?
Use Chromium, it's Chrome without botnet
if you don't, enjoy Opera, it's a decent Chrome clone
Opera's new logo is so terrible. I don't use Opera solely because I don't want to see that shit.
>>54427794
>can't customize the UI at all
>no way to make the middle mouse button open tabs like FF
It's shit.
>>54430362
>>54427794
Can you open tabs by clicking the mouse wheel on the tab bar yet?
I must admit, it's fucking great
will they implement using other search engine as default? every other browsers allow you to do this. I just dont understand why they lock it down.
>>54427794
kek people are realizing this now? fucking normies
after the rendering engine gets left behind and the superfast super customizable UI gets abandoned and the company gets sold off to commies
opera sat at 2% market share for its entire life while other browsers were and still are barely functional compared to opera 7.5
>>54428654
How does it compare to ABE?
>still no reader mode like FF
halp
>>54427794
just switched from chrome and agree entirely.
GOOGLE DRONES ON SUICIDE WATCH.
>>54440445
Gotta get dem search dollarydoos
>keyboard/mouse input randomly stops working and requires reboot of browser
tsk tsk
Opera is crazy fast I was on Firefox forever then had to switch and it was like I got a fucking ssd. Also I love the new intergrated adblock and am looking forward to that VPN they're working on. Best browser out there.
>>54427794
If you REALLY have to use Chromium, then use at least one which is Open Source.
Brave.
Or at least one which actually HAS features and is no dull Chrome clone like Vivaldi.
But even more better, use Otter-Browser or Qupzilla. Chromium is garbage OP.
And it is botnet, no matter if Open Source or closed source. Google has so many spy features included, no one is able to get rid of them all.
>>54443641
>use Otter-Browser
if only it was usable
Wait, opera does still exist?
>>54429943
sell it to America dumbass
ITT: Sinophobia
Why aren't you using Google chrome the comfiest browser :^)
>>54443671
It is usable. It has ad-block, it does browse pages, and the QTWebengine builds which is forked Chromium without Google spy-crap and minus the other Google bloat-crap it is awesome.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/otter-browser/files/otter-browser-beta10/otter-browser-win64-beta10-qtwebengine.7z/download
>>54443884
does it have userscript support? Because that's the only thing other than adblock I need
>>54443641
>the best engine on the market
>garbage
>Otter-Browser or Qupzilla
I'm dying here
>>54443902
But muh 500 tabs :(
>>54443901
It has as far as i know.
>>54443902
Chromium the best engine on the market? Chrome/Chromium is only used by so much people because most of the are simple fags. They want something which works.
No matter how shitty it is. And the rest uses it because they think
>Wow so many people, it has to be good
>>54429598
https://gist.github.com/spaze/558b7c4cd81afa7c857381254ae7bd10
Too bad it's not really a VPN
>>54443902
>Best engine of the market
Not even able to download that file here also when registered on that page:
http://battleofthebits.org/player/MP3Donload/21307/BotB 21307 suddenly u have 2 fite.........it.mp3
Firefox based browser can download it, while Chromium corrupts it and shows an error.
>>54444228
>https://gist.github.com/spaze/558b7c4cd81afa7c857381254ae7bd10
How cute... using a simple browser for simple fags just because a lame VPN while discarding a browser with tons of features for it.
Also not knowing about that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4fuyxf/operas_new_baked_in_vpn_is_not_a_good_solution/
A no-go that upcoming Chinese Botnet!
stop shilling blink-based shits, we will continue using normal browser; stop trying
>>54427794
I want 12.16 back
>>54444344
have 12.18 instead
http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=12.18
>>54444178
>Wow so many people, it has to be good
you said that, not me. I doesn't matter how many people use it, you retard. it's the best engine out there. by far
>>54444423
>Best engine of the market
Not even able to download that file here also when registered on that page:
http://battleofthebits.org/player/MP3Donload/21307/BotB 21307 suddenly u have 2 fite.........it.mp3
Firefox based browser can download it, while Chromium corrupts it and shows an error.
>>54444423
>Best engine of the market
Uses tons of memory and trashes SSD's while single process based browsers are not messing around with an SSD and more tabs can be opened because of less memory usage.
Also, it is from Google, so it can't be trusted
>>54444423
Best engine is upcoming Servo. That with the new Firefox getting Webextensions and getting more and more attractive for Chrome users, Google will be beaten and will lose most of their market share soon.
Just watch and learn Google fag! Mozilla has realized that the way to beat Google is to take everything what makes Chrome attractive. Bye bye Chrome soon!
>>54444458
>>54444257
>Donload
>spaces in URL
>login, n00b! :P
go away with your gay weaboo """music"""
>>54444530
Only free non commercial music is good music. Chipmusic beats the rest with ease!
>>54444490
are you getting paid for spreading lies on the internet?
>>54427794
It's good. Too bad i can't delete the search engines I don't use.
I switched from FF to Opera about 4 months ago and wish I had done much sooner (or to chrome).
FF shills meme you in to believing a lot of FUD about chromium based browsers.
What's with the opera shilling recently? This is the most shameless and least clever shilling I have ever seen.
>>54445263
>FF shills meme you in to believing a lot of FUD about chromium based browsers.
Like what?
>>54445399
slow
bloated
ram hog
nsa bs
no add ons
no themes
>>54427794
>why didn't you tell me Opera was better?
Anon, I told you for years. I also stopped telling you three years ago when it stopped being true.
>no dark theme
fucking dropped
>>54445625
>slow
On old machines.
>bloated
It is.
>ram hog
It is.
>nsa bs
Never heard of this.
>no add ons
Not the best ones like tab trees.
>no themes
Firefox has far superior theming capabilities.
So what's the verdict on vivaldi regarding privacy/NSA/the chinks?
Are they trustworthy, or do they sell your data like MS or jewgle?
>>54445712
Yeah well I don't give a shit any more what you FF memers think.
I have been stunned by Opera and Chromium and have not used slow pile of crap FF ever since.
>>54434961
You can't drag tabs out of the bar to make a new window.
I still use Vivaldi, but that grinds my gears like crazy.
>>54445730
Proprietary so botnet.
i just tried it cause of the shilling, not even one minute goes by but:
with opera maximized, and i have a few tabs opened, i try and switch over to another tab and click right at the top of the tab but it doesnt switch over-i have to go a little bit below the top pixel or something and then click, and then it switches over. is that how its supposed to be or what?
>>54428761
>empty box in place of ads
it's shit
>>54446101
>settings
>up up down down left right left right a b
>power user settings enabled
>disable top spacing
>>54446101
yea that's by default, I'm pretty sure it can be changed in the settings
>>54446303
>>54446321
much obliged
>>54427918
What on earth are you talking about? /g/ loves being the edgy hipster.
>>54433788
isn't that a result of the DE he's using, rather than the browser itself?
Do you idiots realise that literally every feature in chrome and Firefox was ripped off from opera? Opera is better in every way but regrettably it's a catch 22 -- low market share means lot website compatibility which leads to lower market share.
>>54427824
So neither, faggot?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-36147411
You Vivaldifags know it's literally just a reskin of Chromium, right?
>>54427794
>Opera
It's still alive ?
What Android version should I use?
Normal one or mini?
>>54446913
Normal one
But Mini just got adblock (while the normal one doesnt have it yet), so idk
>>54447083
what does normal have that mini dosent?
I really dont care about flashy extra shit but integrated adblock is probably nice.
>>54447124
Customization.
>>54435626
Or press F4
How is it compared to Vivaldi? I've been using that to replace Opera 12 because a lost of sites don't work with it, but it's pretty bad.
>>54446855
always and getting strong. :^
>>54447386
Pros for Vivaldi:
- tab stacking
- you can "open" or "save" a file instead of just saving it (at least I think so?)
- extras like e-mail etc (Opera now also has a sidebar where you can have notes etc, so it's a little bit like in Opera 12)
Opera pros:
- also mobile versions available, so you can sync your bookmarks etc on all devices
- adblock and (soon) VPN included
but it's not a huge difference I guess. both are based on chromium and both have a big focus on the speeddial feature
>>54434961
>but at least make it a button or something jesus christ
Someone would have probably done it already if it were a free software browser.
>>54443641
>using the word "botnet" seriously
I bet you can't tell me what botnet is
146 replies, not bad. $1.46 has been deposited into your account.
>>54447386
vivaldi is a fucking mess, seriously. one of the worst browsers out there
>>54448232
>vivaldi is a fucking mess
I read that in Donald Trump's voice
>>54447538
Opera also has an email client.
>>54427850
with the only objectively good browser gone to shit, everyone is being split amongst different browsers and shitposting trying to figure out the new best browser
>>54446913
Normal is like any normal browser. Every page should look fine, without errors. It consumes more memory than mini. You can use Opera Turbo to load web pages faster and consume less data, but isn't as efficient as with Opera Mini.
Mini doesn't have a proper web engine, instead, it relies on Opera Turbo technology to show pages. Some pages may not load correctly, but the data consumption is much better.
It also has some extra features, like a QR scanner and a adblocking, but it's expected that the normal version will have these features soon.
IMHO, try Mini.
