So the 1080 will be a good 70-80% faster than the 980, so probably about 30-40% faster than the 980ti.
The 1070 will almost certainly match or surpass the 980ti.
Buynow fags BTFO
>expecting patience from retarded gaymers
Don't worry, they'll just bitch at mom until she gets the credit card out again, sinking herself further into debt to try and keep her precious little failure happy.
AMD has no cards until Vega to counter this.
Given their differences in resources and profitability, it's no surprise.
Only AMD-tards have believed otherwise.
1.-Buy the new meme card
2.-Sell the new meme card when Vega comes out
3.-Buy the new HBM2 card
4.-Yfw
I hope this will run prices down on used 980ti's
>>54424433
I love these graphs.
>inb4 oh but 1.8x the performance doesnt mean 1.8x the framerate!
The only thing I am glad about is that the 900 series cards will drop in price. They're all I need.
>>54424433
>>54424990
Is this before or after nvidia gimps the 900s?
>>54424990
>>inb4 oh but 1.8x the performance doesnt mean 1.8x the framerate!
That is what it means, 1.8 would mean 80% more performance relative to the 980 so multiplying the fps by 1.8 would do exactly that
>>54424990
> I am glad about is that the 900 series cards will drop in price
At least in Europe, this never happens. Same with Intel CPU's (opposite on AMD CPU's; Phenom 2's were sold cheap as hell when Bulldozer launched).
>>54424433
Nvidia has no balls to show the 1080/70 running pure Dx12 games. We are going to have fun when Pascal benchmarks for Hitman, Quantum Break, etc. are out.
I predict Polaris 10 flagship matching or outperforming 1080 for 60% the price.
>>54425021
I'm pretty sure he means prices on 2nd hand 900 series cards, which will significantly drop in price
>>54425032
>I predict Polaris 10 flagship matching or outperforming 1080 for 60% the price.
In a few isolated scenarios, maybe, but in most games, no fucking way
>>54425017
Just pointing out the lack of framerate numbers and when they do come out they will be disappointingly less that 80% greater than the 980 range which is when the defense will come in.
>>54425040
If 1080 is not 40% better than Polaris 10, then there is no point on buying it, more knowing how things change after a year of release.
>>54425032
>I predict Polaris 10 flagship matching or outperforming 1080 for 60% the price.
I predict your mom is gangbanged by Niggas on the street right now.
A more likely scenario than your retarded prediction.
>>54425155
The leaked die sizes of polaris 10 so far suggest its simply too small to come anywhere near the 1080.
All we've heard so far, and AMD hammering on performance per watt instead of performance points to the direction that it will be 980/390x for a low price.
So my guess is the 1080 will be at least 40% faster than that
1070 will have 980 performance
1080 will have 980Ti (OC) performance
Thats it. Wow its fucking nothing.
>>54425244
>1070 will have 980 performance
1070 will have Titan X performance
>>54425257
Just screencap my post and wait for the benchmarks.
>>54425273
Seriously though, you think the best Nvidia could do was make the 1080 a slightly cheaper 980ti?
>>54424433
Who exactly is Nvidia's market for the $600 1080, people who upgrade twice a year?
Don't people expect Vega and Nvidia's HBM2 cards out like 7 months later in the same price bracket?
>>54425285
I think the best is yet to come but for now 1080 will have insignificant gains over OC 980Ti at best.
Gonna get a 1080.
What performance jump can I expect, coming from a 670?
Also I assume my 3770k wont bottleneck the card?
>>54424433
I bought a 980ti hydro less than a year ago and a few months later wanted to see how two 980ti's would do at 4k but I realized the hydros built in water cooler is annoying. I sold it on craigs list for $375 and went out and bought 2 more cards and put them in.
Guess what else... when the 1080ti, or w/e they are gonna call it, comes out I am going to buy 2 of them as well and sell the 980's on Craigslist for half their worth.
Hate on me.
>>54425244
Is that why the 970 had 780ti performance?
>>54425323
Around 180% increase.
>>54425017
There's a difference between marketing graphs and scientifically correct meaningful graphs.
>He didn't buy the 980 ti and wait for the 1080 ti
haha wtf it's like buying the new non-S iPhone every 2 years isntead of buying the xS iPhone every 2 years.
From different thread:
So the 1080 is 75% faster than the 980 at Tomb raider. But there is absolutely no word about how the test was conducted. Maybe they used 4k resolution in wich case the 980 will obviously start crapping itself due to 4gb of memory vs 8gb DDR5X. Also the 1080 uses a much higher clock where none knows whether the card can support it for a long time without the need to throttle.
Also 75% lead means about 35fps@4k which is still hardly playable and even disastrous if you think about VR.
Nvidia didn't show any absolute fps numbers and there was no word about async compute as well (probably means gimped dx12). Almost all the advancements where in the clock and memory department which can mostly be traced back to the 16nm shrink and DDR5X. Therefore you should probably refrain from judging the architecture until we can see any actual performance numbers.
If the advancements solely come from the aforementioned factors. Then the architecture is AMD's opportunity to beat them since they will have the same advancements due to the shrink.
>>54425366
Lets say it really is only a 50% increase, that still puts it ahead of the 980ti
You forgot
>1080 will surpass 980 SLI
>>54425395
It might be a 50% increase, it might be a 20% decrease, as long as you're convinced and buy it.
So how do you think the 1050/1060 cards will go?
it's gddr5x which is lower in volume than hbm1 for furies. We will see new cards in august at best then?
>>54425411
The 80 series beating the ti series of last generation is nothing new, and with a move to a larger die and much higher clocks its even much more likely.
I don't know why you are trying to play it down, do you own a Maxwell card?
>>54425257
The titan x is hardly faster then the 980ti (maybe 1%-2% in special scenarios). So saying it beats even the titan X is just a fancy way to say it's as fast as the 980ti.
Speaking as a hardcore graphics dev, the only reason the 1080 is this much faster is because NVidia makes proprietary extensions to OpenGL / DX that they dont make for older cards like the 980ti, even though they could.
>>54425442
No, I'm just bothered by shilling 1X 2X graphs which are clearly just gamer-tier marketing.
It's the entire gaming industry that's broken, make any product with cool red and green lights and gamers will gobble it up like it's the best thing that's happened to them. Can't you see through how misleading pics as in OP are? It's ridiculous.
>>54425465
would be funny if they started selling driver extensions in couple years
>>54425342
we can't play you harder than you play yourself famygdala
What does 70% even mean? If they used a 4k benchmark it might means that the 1080 will make 17fps compared to the 980's 10fps. It's still a stutterfest.
>>54425465
kek. it seems to me that it's so much faster because it has nearly as many shaders clocked at like 1.6x.
In all likelihood they just cherrypicked benchmarks that were completely bottlenecked by shader capacity and not bandwidth, since 256b GDDR5X isn't better than 384b GDDR5...
>>54424433
Been on 680 SLI for a while now - I think I know what I will be upgrading to.
>>54425603
All according to plan. Good goy.
>>54425572
>kek. it seems to me that it's so much faster because it has nearly as many shaders clocked at like 1.6x.
for instance NV rolled out their newest extensions about a year ago for openGL specifically around the NVcommandList family.
https://github.com/nvpro-samples
The speed gains are incredible and the perf delta is massive. They did the same now for 1080 im sure, some new extension that requires 1080 artificially.
>>54424433
I actually have 1000 to drop on one of these or should I wait for the ti? Thing is I need something now my current 770 can't keep up I guess I could get a 490x but its just a fury isn't it?
>>54425638
>NVcommandList
what do these actually do? just bundle draw requests more intelligently to reduce overhead like Vulkan/DX12?
If what nvidia said about the 1070 preformance is true, then im selling my 970 and buying the 1070
Mfw i can sell my 970 for 350e where i live and order a 1070 from Germany for 370e
>>54425661
I only know that it will be almost 3x time fast as your current card. Decide yourself. Id wait for Vega.
>>54425668
Pretty much. You get incredible perf, you can render hundreds of thousands of objects on screen even with a 750 ti. Its so optimized you a lot of the traditional rendering optimizations aren't neccessary anymore. Its wild, it'll probably be core in openGL 4.6
>>54425707
You wont gain much. Id say go for 1080 at the very least from 970.
>>54425507
Untill there are benchmarks I don't know if its misleading, I'm sure Nvidia cherrypicked the scenarios to make their cards look the best, so chop off a good 20% performance gain and it seems realistic
>Relative Performance
What the hell is this supposed to mean? Either a game runs or it doesn't.
>>54425742
They say that a 1070 is better than a 980 ti, which is about double the preformance of the 970. How is that not gaining much?
>>54425758
Holy crap don't you know what the word relative in the context of two variables means?
Are the whitepapers out yet?
>>54424433
It's probably not a huge upgrade for anyone already running a 980 Ti, especially if they're already getting decent performance.
However this is a nice looking hardware upgrade from my 780.
>>54425729
Yeah i need it.
its struggling to get 60fps in alot of games at mid
>>54425789
Probably won't be out until the reviews or computex.
>>54424433
Bane?
How the hell did Nvidia TRIPLE the performance of the 980 for VR on the 1080?
I just can't believe that it'll be three times better for Eve Valkyrie. How are they doing this?
>>54425986
proprietary extension that they chose only to expose on 1080 in order to drive sales
>>54425760
980Ti is 50% faster than 970. The fuck you smocking man.
>>54425986
asynchronous shader support?
>>54426028
That makes me legit mad. That's why I bought an R9 Fury for. AMD is supposed to have a patent on that, right?
my graphics card is like 7 years old.
this will be a next upgrade.
>>54426068
Whats about the rest of your PC?
>>54426023
From the benchmarks ive seen a stock 980ti is about 75% faster than a oc-ed 970
![perfrel_3840_2160[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Jh5uztt.png "perfrel_3840_2160[1].png")
>>54426098
>>54426098
Nah, it's about 50-60% faster than a stock 970, so definately not 75% faster than a oc'd 970
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1595?vs=1496
>>54426123
>>54426136
Should i just get another 970 for sli then, since the price will drop anyway?
>>54426046
No you walnut. Research properly next time.
Apparently the reference design with the vapor cooling that lets you overclock to 2ghz is the founders edition and costs $100 to $150 more.
The MSRP of $380 (1070) and $600 (1080(p)) is for OEMs with third party coolers. So don't expect a 1070 below $450 considering you have to add tax to it as well.
Of course nVidia will send out founder editions to reviewers for testing. This way the cheaper 480X will always have to be compared to an overclocked version of the 1070 in the charts,
gg, wp nvidia
>>54426189
Nah.
>>54426200
Vapor cooling isn't some new fucking tech ya retard. There's nothing stopping the OEMs from producing even better cooling solutions - in fact, they regularly do produce better cooling solutions than the stock nVidia one.
I bought a new card once for $500 and I remember how stupid I felt when I got it. Never again will I pay that much for any card.
>599 us dollars
my sides nvidia
>>54424475
Story of your life eh kid?
Or you're just poor.. get a job you smelly stupid fucking retard.
how will the 1070 compare to the 980?
nvidia asian jew ceo claimed in normal gaming the 1080 will be 20 - 30% faster than the 980 ti. in certain vr situations utilizing pascal new vr features that are only available in nvidia's vrworks gimpworks platform it can be up to 2x faster.
so 20 - 30% must mean the high 30% in memory starved situations. think triple 1440p and 4k+.
not surprising since the 1080 comes with faster gddr5x (7gbps vs 10gbps) and a bump from 6gb to 8gb. these claims are also compared to a stock, reference 980 ti with a high boosting 1080 founders edition.
so in reality with most 980 ti on the market being factory overclocked, third party modifications, the difference could be 10 - 20%. my 980 ti comes overclocked 12% faster than stock for example.
1070 will most likely come out as fast and slightly faster in scenarios that are memory starved, like triple 1440p or 4k due to the use of faster ram.
ultimately all this means is that the titan x was absolute waste of an investment and lost near 90% of its value and the 980 ti lost 55%+ of its value.
>>54426442
1070 and 1080 are both above a 980ti. The 1080 is more powerful than the 1070 but they're both supremely powerful cards.
>>54426458
oh and this also means the gap between the 1070 and the 1080 is much lower than the last two previous generations.
780 - 780 ti was 20%
970 - 980 was 20% ----- wider in memory starved areas with the 3.5gb meme
1070 - 1080 appears to be 15%
last time we had a small gap like that was with the 670 vs 680.
Will a 1070 get high framerates at 1440p?
So should a 1080 be able to play most current games maxed out at 4K/60fps?
I like my 970 but a 4k card it is not, and I wanna make use of my fancy monitor.
>>54426436
>
>Wild neet triggered
>>54426509
We really have no way of knowing, because Nvidia didn't bother to release actual benchmark data.
>>54426509
no, it shouldn't.
20% increase over the 980 ti doesn't grant it 60fps smooth 4k gaming. dual 980 ti's in sli obliterate a 1080 and still can't fully max out 60fps+ 4k gaming.
that won't come until 1080 ti.
but what the 1080 does do is make it more smoother than a single 980 ti and brings solid 1440p performance down to the $380 range with the 1070.
>>54426492
That's a pretty shoddy calculation based on some huge assumptions and what ifs.
Seeing as these cards have, higher memory bandwidth, a die shrink, and much higher clocks than the Maxwell generation, I actualy see room for some big improvements.
Not to the extent that they claimed in the keynote, but still big improvements.
>>54425986
Nvidia used a new driver for that benchmark that gimped the 980 hard.
>>54426458
>>54426492
kek 55%+ loss of value due to a 10 - 20% increase in performance.
oh nvidiacucks
>>54426084
Rest of my PC is way ahead of its time.
32GB ram
i7 @ 3.4ghz
250 SSD & 20TB HDD
It's just I'm not big into gaming, so it'd make sense for my GPU to be the last thing to upgrade.
Might get a $300 motherboard, so I can have an M2 slot for the newer SSD's.
Other then that, I'm set for another 10 years.
>>54426543
>That's a pretty shoddy calculation based on some huge assumptions and what ifs.
so nvidia's asian ceo isn't a valid source?
thats what he claimed. thats straight from nvidia's mouth.
>>54426567
>Might get a $300 motherboard, so I can have an M2 slot for the newer SSD's.
>$300 motherboard for M2 slot
nigger what?
what i7 because they slap m2 slots on $150 z170 boards and z97 boards.
>>54426572
Nvidia's ceo claimed that the 1080 is faster than 980's in sli and the 1070 is faster than a titan x.
>>54426605
Imagine the backlash if he had said that it was only 5-10% faster when the drivers are optmized for the 980ti / titan
>>54426629
Why would he say that when its bullshit
Fucking hell why is AMD doing this to me?
I've stuck with the HD 7850OC since fucking June 2010. I wait all this time for their next gen line-up, but then they shaft me with the reveal that is Polaris 10/11 isn't going to be powerful high end cards.
I love new Radeon Settings as well, but I don't think I can bring myself to wait another fucking year to upgrade. At the same time, I just don't want to buy nvidia, but I feel like there's no reason not to now.
So conflicted.
>>54426637
Its bullshit that its any faster than that if/when the rest of the flagships get optimized drivers
>>54426648
Polaris 10 would still mean a huge upgrade from the card you are using right now, probably at a very attractive price point.
Yes they won't be the fastest cards but for someone coming from your line of cards its still a big upgrade
As someone who is surely going to wait for the 1080ti but would like something in the meantime..
What would a good deal be on a used OC 980 that someone just put on craigslist in my smaller town. He listed at $420, obviously trying to bait the uninformed. Whats a sweet spot to buy now and sell in less than a year for the least loss?
>>54426649
Source: Your ass
>>54426600
I also want more 3.0 USB ports and just generally a future proof mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130841
>>54426663
tell him you'll buy it for $360 but only show up with $300. I've done this before, showing up with less cash and it always works.
Mfw I jumped on the 290x sapphire meme which plays everything I want at 60fps 1080p for only 200 gbp's
>>54425442
He's an AMDead poorfag.
>>54426680
>tell him you'll buy it for $360 but only show up with $300
You disgusting roach, I would laugh in your face and tell you to fuck off
>>54426673
No, its true. The only people that can write drivers are nvidia. They choose to gimp / unsupport older in place of their newer flagships. This is key to their business model.
>>54426605
he claimed a 20 - 30%.
25% increase would be faster than 980 sli since 980 sli is about 20% faster than a 980 ti / titan x.
from past history we know the high end % increases are usually due to memory starved areas.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10304/nvidia-announces-the-geforce-gtx-1080-1070/2
>>54426695
No it isn't true
I've seen an article that went into depth about this and the whole 'cripple keppler' is a meme.
It doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you actualy dive into the numbers.
>>54426660
Yeah I think you're right, but I'm hoping Polaris is at least 970 tier. If it is then I'll probably just get that and wait for vega.
>>54426732
It will be at least 970 tier, for less money.
It will probably be at about 390x point which is 980 performance.
>>54426713
paid damage control.
>>54426680
So 300 is a good offer? I'm not pulling bullshit tricks in a walmart parking lot somewhere. I hate people that pull that nonsense.
>>54426742
Enjoy the read
http://www.bytemedev.com/the-gtx-780-ti-sli-end-of-life-driver-performance-analysis/
I don't expect you to back up your cripple keppler meme with some actual numbers ofcourse
>>54426751
You have to offer him more money than you show up with
Where the benchmarks at?
>trusting the nvidia jew
>buying a meme-card before it even has benchmark tests
>>54426678
The ~$150 asus z170a has 3 usb 3.0 ports, and supports upto 4 3.0 ports on the case for a total of 7 ports in addition to a thunderbold ports. You can also buy usb 3.0 pci cards for like $20. It's your money though. Higher tier motherboards are not for usb ports.
>>54426757
i can't read this right now but it looks interesting.
what are the findings?
>>54426688
You can probably sell it for that price currently.
>>54424504
>still believing nvidia has more money than AMD
>>54426751
if its a regular 980 (not a 980 ti) then no more than $200.
with the 1070 and the 1080 coming out in 3 weeks the 980 is absolute garbage.
>>54426804
No performance degredation in Keppler in newer drivers, they test synthetic benchmarks, but if there was intentional crippling you would expect to see it in the synthetic benchmarks too.
1060 when?
I planned to buy whole new PC in late June, with 960 but now Im confused.
How much could that cost in Euro? I dont want to pay additional taxes and ocean transport for buying from outside EU.
>>54426825
>if its a regular 980 (not a 980 ti) then no more than $200.
he can get way more than that on amazon / ebay
>>54426751
Second thought I'm not even sure $300 is a good deal if a $379 card new beats it handily. I'll offer weed trade. This is Oregon .
>>54426831
nobody claimed perf degredation you turd. Youre missing the point which is new features being "missing"
>>54426856
>nobody claimed perf degredation you turd
They constantly do you dimmie, what new features are you even talking about.
They are 2 year old cards obviously they won't have all the newest features you idiot.
>>54426874
>They are 2 year old cards obviously they won't have all the newest features you idiot.
which cards? Which features? Why arent they added in?
Its like with my ipad mini 1 : I should have a lot more features than I do, but nothing ever came
>>54426909
You claimed they have missing features, what features are you talking about
>>54426831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvCsT_dk-1E
this video confirms that article you linked. that's 2 sources calling this whole "gimpvidia" as a false rumour. what will amd fanboys use now, now that they've been proven wrong?
>>54426330
Do you lack basic reading comprehension? This wasn't about vapor cooling being something new. It was about nvidia reference design being the "founder" version costing +$100 for the cooling. If any OEM will sell it for $380 and $600 they will have to put a worse cooling solution onto it.
>>54425465
Can you not hack the drivers or something?
Nvidia will gimp older cards with new drivers. Which is why I'll finally step over to amd with next upgrade
>>54426200
>you have to add tax to it as well.
No sales tax here kiddo
>>54427105
phew. I'm glad now knowing that nVidia will only sell there card on your little island and their pricing should be judged based on that.
>1.7ghz pascal matches overclocked 980 ti
>the card was running at 2.1ghz in the presentation
>25~30% faster than 980 ti
>single 8 pin
>amd won't have a competing product until Vega/2017
F
Have to hand it to nvidias marketing department. Those Apple style "2x better performance with no meaningful metric" graphs already have 970 and 980 owners ready to hand over their cash, just as planned. In the end it will all equate to around 20 extra average frames over a typical 980/ti in a typical scenario.
>>54427379
AMD is asking $1500 for gtx 1080 performance.
How likely is it that nvidia begins to gimp older cards with driver updates?
>>54427451
350%
>>54427379
Better than AMD's "16% Performance increase" which translates to 1FPS increase.
>>54427504
>kepler
>>54426838
Please respond.
>>54424433
The 1070 will probably sell even more than a 970. It really is a magnificent buy.
>more than 7GB of VRAM
>outperforms the entire single GPU lineup
>low TDP
>less than $400
Very exciting card, but once again they go full retard with the *80 giving just a slight amount of boost in performance with an absolutely retarded price. On AMD's side, we have rumors about Polaris 10 matching the 980Ti at a $300 price point which if true it will be an incredible buy as well. Very exciting stuff. I'm personally waiting for the enthusiast Vega or big Pascal, but I just might buy Polaris 10 or a 1070 and then buy the enthusiast grade like the good goy that I am.
>>54426436
wew, must have hit you hard
>>54426838
Wait for the price drops and benchmarks.
>>54424433
Nothing to see here, wait for non-Nvidia benchmarks. I wait for the 1080Ti.
>>54426940
Amazing how no AMD drones responded to this, must be hard to be faced with evidence showing your memes are bullshit
>>54427698
I may buy a 1070 if I can get one below 350 €, I need a 2nd DisplayPort and I'm not sure if my 780Ti can handle everything until GP102.
BF1 looks amazing but I wait for the beta, BF4 still runs on Ultra without MSAA on my 780. Only idiots pre order or buy games on release, I'll first see if the game is finished on the release date.
>>54424475
>projecting this hard,
Sounds like this is your life
>>54427684
probably october.
>tfw still using a 660ti
>tfw still using a 670
>>54427935
>tfw 550ti
>>54427242
New Hampshire isn't an island fucko.
Why would you buy stuff for VR now when it'll be much better and cheaper in 2-3 years?
>>54428221
>tfw hd 4730
>>54428243
because nvidia fanboy with too much money and too little sense
>>54427878
1060Ti in June, 1060 in "fall"
>>54428197
>tfw had a 670 but decided to jump the gun on a 970 on September last year
I'll just wait for Vega, it should come out Q4,2016-Q2,2017.
![nigger-lan-party[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RqBdeEk.jpg "nigger-lan-party[1].jpg")
>1080
ehm we have Intel HD Graphics already lol
>>54427756
don't worry dice will make sure bf1 needs two 1080's to run solid at 60fps
>>54428257
>HD 3850 512MB
>>54425181
kek
How long till mobile pascal comes out? I want a XPS 15 with pascal.
>>54425322
You are literally fucking retarded then.
>14nm over 28
>more cuda cores
>it'll probably just match the 980ti :^)
>>54428412
>he wants a mobile pascal when polaris 10 is coming out
>>54428440
>AMD
so, 980 performance for 970 price?
>>54428543
Nigga what are you talking about? We have to wait for actual benches, but the 1070 single handedly destroys every current GPU on its own for less than $400 according to Nvidia.
>>54428392
>>54428257
>tfw ATI HD Radeon 3200
I bought 970 1 year ago for the purpose of waiting for a better series.
It gives me 60fps + in every modern game and although I have a 120fps monitor, I only care about higher than 60fps framerate in competitive games such as CS:GO.
I'm just gonna wait for the 1170 instead of getting a 1070.
>>54428566
exellent, now I can buy one for me and my wifes son
>Nvidia releasing amazing high end cards
>AMD won't have anything to compete till Vegas comes out in 2017 and by then everyone who wants to upgrade to a high end card will already be locked in Nvidia
AMDone and finished.
>>54428608
Meme more frequently. You will eventually become the meme, it's our destiny.
>>54428616
the PC market is nothing compared to the console market, and the high-end PC market is tiny compared to all these people running steam on their toasters. Games will be optimized for AMD cards.
>>54428616
People running true high end cards are only a small minority, the majority of the market uses mid range cards. So that is where the money is at.
If you look at steam users, the 970 is the most used cards of all.
Polaris 10 might be very well suited for that price/performance segment.
Yeah it sucks that they won't have anything truly high end until Vega, but they honestly won't give a shit
Should I buy R9 390 this week if I want to play video games at least 4 years from now on (max quality isn't necessary) or should I wait for June so I can buy new 1070?
>>54428725
>HD 5470
>>54428726
At what resolution and framerate?
>Predicting the future
>Buying before price drops
>>54428726
If you don't care about max settings sure a 390 will do fine, or a 970
>>54428726
wair for the 300$+ Polaris 10
>>54428752
20-30 fps
1280 x 720
>>54428778
are you baiting? if not, this will do you good: >>54428758 even at 2560x1440
>>54428778
>30 fps
>720p
That's console gaming tier. Even a 970 will get you at 1080p 60fps at medium in most games besides few greedy ones like the Witcher 3.
>>54428827
I'm not. I'm just new to PC
>>54428848
Honestly first thing you should do is at least pick up a 1080p monitor.
If you want to continue on that low resolution you might as well get a gtx 960
>>54428848
then all you need is AMD's Polaris 10 card
I'm still quite content with my 7850. :) But Arma3 isn't too great of an experience. Popular games like Dota 2 and Overwatch run completely satisfactory despite the card's age.
Where can I preorder some 1070s? I need to upgrade by back-up gaming PC running 970s in SLI.
>>54426648
When they said Polaris 10 is mainstream, they meant consumer high-end.
>>54428909
Hi damage control!
>>54428848
Listen, the main point of PC is better performances than consoles. In the PC universe, 30 fps is shit. 720p is shit. If you wand 720p at 30fps, then get jewed by Sony and their PS4. You're aiming at least for 1080p 60fps, which is what a R9 390 or GTX970 will give you. I'd still wait for >Polaris or simply a price drop on the 970/980s when the 1070/1080s get released.
This mean I could buy a 970 for 150 yurobucks? I wouldn´t pay more for 3.5 gb
>>54428666
>Yeah it sucks that they won't have anything truly high end until Vega, but they honestly won't give a shit
You mean they don't have the resources to give a shit.
AMD is fighting on both CPU and GPU market with net loss for years and little resources.
>not playing in 4k
>buys bleeding 4k monitor
>buys 4k indie movie camera
>no SSD
>videos weigh terabytes
>buys skylake
>buys ddr4
>not using ramdisk
>streaming 4k to show my rig
>ISP throttles 4k
>VR holographic 4D
>my benchmarks
>>54428956
If I can get a 970/980 for 150-175€ this summer I'm not waiting for >Polaris.
>nvidia graphs
>multiplier performance
Kek when will they learn
Seriously, you faggots are like manlets
YOU NEVER LEARN
which card will help me make this Iranian grill look like she's in my room so I can milk her cowtits?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX6XVRo5y-A
>>54425257
>1070 will have Titan X performance
This is what poorfags would like to believe. Huang trolled you.
>>54429050
she's ugly m8
>t.iranian
>>54429123
you're iranian? send me some hot Iranians then
>>54429139
what are you, indian? iranians aren't hot except in the eyes of shitskins
>>54429192
oh I get it, you're some arab Iranian hater? I'm Dutch.
>>54429139
iranians aren't DTF
No saying just how good it will be until we see benchmarks. The most notable difference was in VR, not regular games.
>>54429218
i'm iranian.
>>54429219
yes they are, unless you're some autistic nerd.
>t. my ex was iranian
>>54426819
Huh?
>>54429237
then you're a neckbeard who can't get the qts, so you call them all ugly so you can sleep at night.
How is this founders edition cooler, anyway? Worth the 70 extra dollarydoos on a 1070?
>>54429265
no, wait for Asus DCII
>>54429265
>vapor chamber
Yes. It's worth the premium for just being able to own the very first batch. Nvidia's stock blower works significantly better with a vapor chamber.
>>54429245
no, all they'll do is suck the d at the most. And when you get her bra off all iranians sag to the floor
>>54429301
not in my experience. you must be getting bottom of the barrel girls. I'm sorry to hear that :^)
>>54429262
>projecting this hard
european girls > middle eastern
deal with it.
>>54429301
this is 100% true. finally someone who actually knows his shit
>>54429315
for me it goes: Dutch girls > french girls > Iranian girls > rest of europe > baboons > British
>>54429288
Oh, I guess it should've been obvious based on the name, but I didn't realize that founders edition referred to the first batch. Yeah, fuck that noise.
>>54429281
Any opinions on MSI? I've been using their twinfrozr 760 for three years now and it's one of the few components in my PC that didn't shit itself at some point, but their reputation seems unfavorable for some reason.
>>54429335
italian > dutch > spanish = french > middle eastern > everything else
>>54429357
Asus usually has the best coolers for Nvidia cards. MSI is quite average in my experience.
>>54429376
>italian
enjoy the hairy cunts.
also
>middle eastern
is not a thing, there's Turks, Iranians and Arabs.
>>54429335
>>54429376
>tfw Dutch
Nice.
>>54429391
>enjoy the hairy cunts.
>not hooking up with a qt pale italian chick with a hot accent that has good hygiene
>is not a thing, there's Turks, Iranians and Arabs.
if you're being that specific then arab > turks=iranians
>>54424433
Anybody have solid states on the texture fill rate?
What about the midrange equivalent of the GTX 970? What fill rate will it have?
>>54429054
This is a massive die shrink you fucking idiot.
>>54425465
The only reason nvidia is faster than amd is because their drivers are optimized better.
>>54429497
>the only reason nvidia is faster is because they are better
that's all I read
I have a msi gtx 980
I game at 1080p and 4k for old stuff like half life. What should I get? A 1070 or 1080?
>>54429497
Or because AMD simply reacts to NVidia's stuff and hence are consistently late.
>>54429534
If you have stable 60fps at 1080p then a 980 is more than enough. Depends if you plan to upgrade your rig to go at 2K/4K resolutions.
>>54429443
>arab > turks=iranians
wew lad, how can you be so wrong in one sentence?
Am I the only one laughing at a graph that simply uses the word "performance" and in no way explains how they're calculating any of that?
>>54424475
Or I'll just buy both myself. I've got money like Obama
>>54429562
>Or because AMD simply reacts to NVidia's stuff and hence are consistently late.
Well, AMD's drivers have been terrible pretty much forever with little sign of improving.
AMD's best business strategy is to push Mantle because it removes the burden of driver developers. And it looks like they're winning this push.
>>54429608
you and everyone else with half a brain. except for nvidia fanboys and retards (same thing)
>>54424475
Jesus dude. You sound damaged as fuck.
Are you okay?
So, should I get a 970 right now or wait for the 1070?
>>54429624
>Mantle
I thought people transitioned to Vulkan? Prolly better to go for Vulkan that's open source and not limited to AMD or Windows 10 like DX12.
>>54429650
wait for 1080ti
>>54429650
Even if you absolutely need a GPU right fucking now, it's not worth buying a 970.
>>54429650
>Right now
>The price hasn't dropped
Just fucking wait. If you want 1080p/60fps then wait for the 970/980 to go on sale. If you want more, wait to see if the 980Ti drops in price or/and if the 1070/1080 benchmarks are worth shit. Just wait.
>>54429654
>I thought people transitioned to Vulkan? Prolly better to go for Vulkan that's open source and not limited to AMD or Windows 10 like DX12.
Vulkan is basically Mantle
DirectX12 is also basically Mantle
>>54429580
it's correct though
>>54429650
>not waiting for 1180
fucking pleb
>>54429650
Waitfagging is the thing to do now, since even if AMD doesn't come with anything good, the current generation of cards will drop in price.
>>54429624
amd fucked up when they gave away mantle. now nvidia will reap the benefits
>>54429690
So it's what I thought. Open-source Mantle compatible with any GPU. Since NVidia also put their logo on Vulkan, we'll see but AMD indeed are the ones who have the most to gain there.
>Check current prices
>Not a single price drop on anything
Guess retards must still be buying that shit up.
>>54429740
Either because it's the week-end or because they're also waiting for the benchmarks.
>>54429721
No, it's a sound business strategy because Mantle benefits AMD more than Nvidia. (That's the whole point)
Imagine had they tried to keep it vendor-locked or something, absolutely nobody would use it.
That's "performance per watt" relative performance, you're just being maymed.
>>54429721
do you know what happened with last company that didn't give away the API?
>>54428197
Same here, I want a 1070 now but I also want to wait for hbm2
