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Thoughts?
>>54419549
Pyra Specs
>>54419556
GPD Win Specs
>>54419572
>>54419587
Alternatively you can 3D print a raspberry pi Libretto
>>54419572
>>54419587
>windows 10
Dropped forever.
Gud ruck chinko-chinko-chez.
>>54419549
I'd like a pyra for fun.
But the lack of any release date, or even a general idea, makes me too uneasy.
Could so easily just evaporate, pre-order money included.
>>54419549
Its fucking stupid shit for /g/ hipsters
>4GB RAM
>x86 processor
It's not a really fair comparison, the GPD WIN wins every time. Pre-orders are like $300 too.
>>54420260
The pyra is but the gpd win isn't. That one is a fully fledged umpc with 4gb of ram. I think a ton of people are going to want to buy one including normies.
>>54420382
For doing what? Its a piece of shit
>>54420592
Shitposting on the go, using x86 software, streaming vydia, and basically using it like a laptop.
Emulating PS1/N64 and other consoles will be pretty noice too.
>>54420592
For taking the M$botnet with you everywhere you go.
>>54420592
For running Linux so I can get rid of my spyphone.
If they were reasonable price I'd buy one, but the cost is outrageous.
I will just wear baggy jeans and keep using my windows tablet thanks
>>54420708
It's going to most likely sport a UEFI boot with the ability to turn secure boot off. So you'll be able to install gentoo or whatever on it.
>>54420382
>I think a ton of people are going to want to buy one including normies
Do you actually have autism? That thing is firstly absolutely pointless, secondly it makes no sense, the Sony UX series time has gone.
Why would anyone want to interact with windows on a device like this?
>>54419556
>$700 minimum
please tell me this is a joke
>>54420592
>x86 UMPC
>shit
Now instead of only being able to play angry birds on a 5.5" screen you will be able to run x86 software. I'm definitely be inclined to buy one when it comes out. Though the estimated $500 retail price tag does sound discouraging.
>>54420739
>It's going to most likely
So, you've got nothing concrete and are talking out of your ass of shattered dreams.
>>54420747
>not made by the cheapest chink company ever
>dedicated german autist creators and manufacturing qc
>muh freedumz
freedom isn't free
>>54419549
>fitting in your pocket sir
>no wiruses
>thankyou come again
I'm torn, for so much time, I was inclined to pre-order the Pyra, because I love the form factor, the focus on Linux and the battery life. But the hardware looks so outdated... On the other hand, even if x86 compatibility is a deal maker, there is no guarantee the GPD Win will have total hardware support on Linux, my experience with the Jewtel Compute Stick was discouraging... Also, what is the expected battery life of the GPD Win?
>>54420862
Battery capacity is 6,000 mAh and assuming it uses a standard phone battery, 22.2 Wh. The x5-z8500 cherry trail x86 atom it sports has a tdp range of 2-4 watts and the 720p screen probably uses 2 watts at most.
So
~50% average cpu load + screen at full brightness: ~6 hours
~25% average cpu load + screen at low brightness: ~12 hours
~100% average cpu load + screen at full brightness: ~4 hours
>>54419761
Windows 10 is probably the lightest OS for it, so it's a good pick.
>>54419549
Tried out a prototype of the pyra at the Gamescom in Cologne and I came to the conclusion:
>uncomfortable heavy and thick
>cheap plastic, feels cheaper than the 3ds
>the edges of the body even beveled were still a bit sharp
>good display
>touch worked kinda so-so and sucked with linux
>navigation in linux was pure cancer in it's final form, using sticks for mouse movement is disgusting
>buttons were good enough
>sticks been pure cancer in terms of placement and quality
This is what happens when you throw all the features together combined with non-existing usability.
>>54420816
What freedoms? The Pyra has blobs literally everywhere.
If you want a free console, try the GCW Zero. It has a FOSS 3D GPU driver and I think the Wi-Fi is blobless too.
>>54419549
>>54419556
>>54419805
>920$
>no USB C
>USB 2.0 in 20 fucking 16
>That weird micro usb 3.0 port
I really don't see the appeal in this. It's as expensive as an ultra book
>>54421587
>prototype
>shitting on a protoype
Thats why they are prototypes, they arent always good. unless u wanted them to lie to you
>>54421894
The design, however, is more or less final.
>>54421247
Debian netinst
I support free hardware that is affordable, performant, and most importantly will actually release. The pyra is none of these.
Picked up the GPD WIN early on and kept an eye on the comments. The manufacturer replied that the bootloader would be normal UEFI and should support linux although they stressed that GPD would not support linux.
>>54419549
>buy gpd, because pandora is overpiced as fug
>install gahnoo slash loonix on it
>>54419556
>minimum price $700
At some point I just start wondering if I can't just 3d print some shell and stuff a bunch of rpi crap in there to get the same result for half the price.
>>54421247
>windows 10
>light
The people on this board, I swear to god
I already have a laptop for my pocket.
If it has the same shell as the Pandora it's shit, as in below /csg/ quality.
There was a patient issue on the hinge design because of Nintendo so it locks at a really shitty full angle. The keyboard doesn't feel good either.
Fuck that hinge though.
>>54423248
You'll be getting 1/3 of the result for 1/3 of the price.
You'de have to be rick ovvens to fit that in your pocket
>>54419549
I already have a pocket sized computer. And it's running Android. So, what's the appeal or purpose of this?
>>54421247
>Windows 10 is probably the lightest OS
Except it isn't, by far.
>>54422162
This.
>>54423335
Hinge will be the same, but I heard you can replace it with Nintendo's hinge if you want.
The case will be of a lot higher quality this time, keymat as well
A comfortbale pocket computer running a proper os instead of spyware and lots of bloat that has a keyboard and inhibits the functinality of a cell phone (sim card slot).
I want it to be real. But it doesn't seem like the Pyra includes cell phone technology. Or I'm missing s.t. here
>>54421820
>they have a stupid USB 3.0 port
>why is all they support USB 2.0?
kill yourself as quickly as possible
I'll wait till someone makes a slider, till then, 2006 hardware is good enough for me.
>>54422162
>>54423941
The functionality with Debian would go to shit.
>>54421247
>Windows 10 is probably the lightest OS
>>54427670
No, it wouldn't.
>>54419549
>chinkshit with spyware
>severely overprices krautshit
>>54419619
>lazy diy mashup shit
Why is everything so shit these days when we have the technology to make fucking awesome stuff?
>>54420714
Get AOSP and don't use google. F-droid has got what you need, except tinder :'-(
>>54419549
Why can't no one build a proper UMPC anymore? We had those years ago and these suck more then they did back then ?
>>54421247
>>54427670
Wow you're totally 100% right I bet!
Care to elaborate how "the universal operating system" would be capable of your asinine claims?
>>54428656
>make fucking awesome stuff?
like what?
>>54423184
>bootloader would be normal UEFI
How? Isn't the bootloader on atom boards whatever intel wants it to be?
In this case Win 10 only?
>>54421247
DOS uses less than 128mb ram and windows 10 needs a fucking 1gb
Any opinions on the Pocket CHIP?
Both devices in the OP are way too fucking expensive for what they are, but the chip is only 50 bucks, has a screen and full keyboard in a body that looks like it's the size of a Game Boy.
Also runs full ARM linux for that SSH and emulator capability.
>>54429186
I think thats might be a little bit too cheap. The buttons look like they kinda suck and the whole thing looks like a prototype.
>>54429169
DOS as in MS-DOS? Because I'm sure that was in need of less then 100KB of ram
>>54429169
Windows 10 32-bit barely uses 500 MB if you optimize it.
im gonna buy the gpd win and install chromiumOS on it
i feel like a pocket sized chromebook would be god tier, espcially with 4gb of ram and a 64gb ssd, thats not too bad
processor is a bit lackluster though, even my 100$ CB3 has a 2.6ghz dual core celeron
>>54428656
Then make something awesome anon
>>54429313
while thats light, 500mb is still alot
ubuntu with windowmaker can do 140mb idle, mint with windowmaker does 75 idle, if you install a tiling window manager on something light like arch you get below 50mb idle
>>54419549
See
>>54420746
>Why would anyone want to interact with windows on a device like this?
And
>>54423941
>I already have a pocket sized computer. And it's running Android. So, what's the appeal or purpose of this?
I totally agree. Why downgrade from an advanced computer in my pocket, with all the sensors and wireless connectivity I want, on a completely customizable platform with incredible modding capabilities to that bulky hunk of shit?
Android is the answer to computing with (mostly) freedoms, and you can always run a new ROM even if you don't like it!
>>54425925
They should have used micro USB C, like on phones, for the micro 3.0 port. Plus, why include USB 2.0 when USB 3.0 is backwards compatible anyways?? The only things I know that use that micro 3.0 port is the Galaxy Note 3 and some external hard drives. Just hurry up and move over to USB C.
>>54429323
Chromium/Chrome OS runs pretty quick on lowend hardware so that might not be too bad an idea. You can install linux software on it with crouton and just installing xiwi.
It would be cool if it was possible to install software straight from Gentoo's portage software repository on chrome os.
>>54419549
Tablets, an established market, are dying because large phones are good enough for nearly anyone's needs in that size range. When everyone is already walking around with a 5"+ computer in their pocket what use do they have for a redundant device that has a lower rez screen running Windows.
If you really need x86 on a portable system you'd get one of those $100 Chink tablets like the Chuwi HI8 Pro and a Bluetooth keyboard. Better specs, screen, almost as portable, save yourself $600
>>54421247
>Windows 10 is probably the lightest OS for it
That was the dumbest post I've read in a while.
I pre-ordered the US mobile edition pyra - 4GB
Because money is no object and I'm a freetard with no UMPC and a hankering for one.
BTW, to set the record straight, the only blobs needed by the Pyra are for the 4G modem and 3d graphics. The chip has seperate 2d graphics acceleration that works with the FOSS etna_viv driver. Same driver used by the GCW Zero.
>>54419549
will fail even more than previos generation pissdora
if you read their forum - most of bucks come to r&d that pile of crap, not directly to computing power and/or nice software (also it is produced in eurofag countries)
if you want spend money on cancer instead of battling it - your welcome
>>54419549
Looks as fucking useless as the old pocket PCs
>>54419549
>play GPD win video on their indiegogo
>some beaner speaking spanish
>fucking dropped
>>54428879
I don't know anon.
>>54430438
Are you in heaven?
I only have pic related, too bad there aren't a lot of modern laptops made like these
>>54419619
rofl get that gay shit outa here
>>54430770
This. Even the pi-top looks better than this shit. Not that i'd want either though.
>>54419549
Overheating chinkshit vs. obselete bulky ARMshit. Both overpriced. There's no winner here.
I also just snagged one of these. It hasn't arrived yet though.
>>54419549
An actual pocket computer. Never heard of it until now.
>>54430979
>2007 technology
but why
>>54423316
Fucking lol
>>54421247
no
FUCK YES
>>54419549
Honestly wouldn't a nexus 5 and a keyboard case actually have better specs and performance for a fraction of the price? I had a keyboard attachment for my nexus 7 and ran a VM of Debian and that wasn't that bad at all
>>54419549
>what are tablets?
>>54419556
>>54419572
>literally worse than phone hardware
What's the point. Just grab one of those logitech's wireless mouse+kb sets that require just one receiver.
>>54431305
Sssh. Don't tell the goyim that, besides this comes with joy sticks
>>54431425
They should just make a Bluetooth Or USB keyboard attachment with the joysticks and SD card slots on the bottom and let the nexus be the top screen attachment. Then have a custom app to read a Linux is from one of the SD slots on the bottom attachment. Of course the phone would fit in a case with a hinge so its perfectly similar to the pyra / pandora
>>54431473
Well, apart from the SD cards stuff, they actually tried to do that with the iControlPad2 which never took off.
By the way, what's the situation with Linux on Android anyway? Last time I tried it, you had to VNC into your own chroot, which was highly unpleasant. Is there something more "native" around now?
Looks like shit.
>>54419556
This is worse than the Power8 TALOS workstation for $3000
It should run Android. Until it does no sale.
>>54431729
$3700 actually and it's a reasonable price, there's thing called economies of scale
>>54431645
Damn so they're not in production? I really dig that design actually and would buy that for maybe 100
I remember when I had it on my 7 you could do it in noroot Linux but lolipop changed how much process power you can use for tasks and such. I just know you need root on mm
>>54430723
those male feminist hands
>>54431729
No shit, that Talos stuff is actually decent.
>>54431067
2/16, terrible show anon.
>>54431045
Because memes.
Also tiny shit from any era is cool.
>>54420739
Yea because all other gpd products you could do that (spoiler: you can't)
>>54431067
>wew lad
shutup you pissdora fagboy, i piss in your general direction and over your shitty handheld, goddamm fucking bastards
>>54431994
I even cant cite correctly, I miss those times
>>54431831
I wish I had manlier hands...
This is what working with computers does to you, it gives you feminine hands fml
>>54419549
>wingdp
literally the only UMPC worth buying; still will be an underpowered and slow piece of garbage that's uncomfortable to hold
>pyra
useless piece of garbage in every way imaginable. if you like it or defend it then you are immensly retarded
>>54421247
>>54429150
IIRC this is an antitrust issue in brought up in Germany and applying to all of the EU. It has to allow you to install another OS or Microsoft gets in trouble, even if that support is just allowing Linux to get SecureBoot certification (which some distros have) or enabling a legacy mode.
Pyra looks good but holy shit that price.
GPD is interesting as well, as long as there will be Linux for it. Does it have 3g/4g?
