OSX: a meme?
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is osx indeed a meme?
install steermouse
>>54412954
I'm using the trackpad
What is the problem here?
>touch inspired UI
CANCER
>>54412937
OS X <=10.6 Not a meme
OS X >10.6 A meme
>>54413079
scrolling in some areas and windows resizing
This thread is a meme.
>>54412937
the memest
>>54412937
everythings apparently a meme, who gives a shit? use what you like.
>>54412937
>Radiohead
>Death Grips
>Tim Hecker
You are me.
>>54413823
I like to listen to some meme music from time to time
Not at all
"OS X is polished" is a meme
It's closer to a commercial linux distro than a consistently designed masterpiece. Options don't do what they say they do, features conflict, and oversights are more common than drop shadows. It's just a low-end UNIX workstation once you get past "wow windows doesn't have THAT graphical effect!" hype.
Only, linux has an advanced kernel with lots of support for varying networking capabilities and filesystems and OS X has darwin with hfs, fat, and half-baked zfs. Linux and freeBSD also have the immensely useful /proc VFS, and darwin doesn't, so something as simple as getting a processes' CWD or other info is a minor nightmare compared to reading files within /proc/proc#.
Ext* support is easy to add and already present in BSD licensed kernels so you'd think apple would add it to make migration from linux and OS X's use in tech support more appealing
>>54414031
What are these networking capabilities?
>>54413140
10.6.8 is still best osx
>>54415021
Hear hear..
>>54415021
No you're thinking of 10.5.8
>>54415021
Cant run steam or spotify
>>54415290
I know it can run Spotify. Hell I use Spotify on PowerPC 10.5.8
>>54415290
Bro I was listening to Spotify on 10.6.8 earlier today.
dont give a fuck about games. I'm a video editor and that's what I need this computer for.
>>54415168
>same features as 10.6.8
>worse performance
>>54415351
>10.6 can't run on PowerPC
>10.5 wins by default
>>54412937
It's funny how after the departure of Forstall they became so anti-skeuomorphic, and yet they added this rubber band scrolling everywhere.
I personally don't mind it.
>>54413168
>>54413079
what's wrong with it?
>>54413115
works better on a trackpad/touch mouse
>extremely limited software options
>will only run on shiny expensive apple computers
of the highest degree
>>54412937
a meme isn't something you dislike, faggot
>>54414031
osx just feels like linux for the desktop done right
note that I said 'feels like'--don't sperg out on me
linux is great but it's a fucking mess for desktop use. It belongs on servers and maybe workstations that you begrudgingly use
What would it take for Apple to release OS 11 as a completely free (as in freedom) OS? It would make sense from a business perspective, since their biggest profit centers are by far mobile/software/services, and increasing their install base would only make it easier for people to get into their other products.
I know marrying software to hardware is the apple way, but everyone knows mac sales are basically irrelevant to the company, and that's not likely to change anytime soon.
Plus, it would be a massive "fuck you" to microsoft, giving developers even more incentive to bail on that shitty aging pile of fuck.
>>54415021
/thread
>>54415771
>release OS 11 as a completely free (as in freedom) OS
OSX is a colossal pile of shit that's so optimized even beta 1.0 release versions of Winblows destroy it, and that's on its own hardware.
>>54412937
What's the problem here?
>>54415832
Performing better is irrelevant when functionality is worse>>54415832
>>54415832
I'll keep this in mind when I rip cd's.
>>54415832
That shitty HFS+ beats NTFS in large file copying. haha.
>>54415832
That's why it could thrive open-source, the community would be large enough to meaningfully develop the OS.
I would help however I could if it meant resurrecting final cut pro 7 as a 64-bit application I could run on my choice of hardware.
>>54415832
>2012
>>54414031
>It's just a low-end UNIX workstation once you get past "wow windows doesn't have THAT graphical effect!" hype.
>he doesn't remember the Compiz fiasco and the search of the killer app
Jesus, you do smell of new
>varying network capabilities
what are these?
>muh fs plethora
Literally why, do you switch fs every month or what?
>>54416021
>Literally why
It's nice to have at least one choice that isn't shit, multiple choices are even better.
>>54416035
If fs give you boners, the more power to you. 99.9% of the people go with the defaults (ext4/NTFS/HFS+) and never look back. It's underlying technology nobody sees because all of them just work.
>>54416186
Nobody's good with HFS+. They either settle for it or are unaware of how bad it is.
>>54416218
>Nobody's good with HFS+.
>stop liking what I don't like
>They either settle for it or are unaware of how bad it is.
Are people losing files because of it?
Are people being prevented to work because of it?
Are people dying because of it?
If you answer no to any of the above then stop whining and move on.
>>54416274
>Are people losing files because of it?
Yes.
>Are people being prevented to work because of it?
Yes.
>Are people dying because of it?
No. Because no one's retarded enough to use macshit for mission critical roles.
>>54416274
I have lost files because of it, hence my hatred for it.
>>54416329
>>Are people losing files because of it?
>Yes.
>>Are people being prevented to work because of it?
>Yes.
[citation needed]
>>54416329
>>54416336
I'd love to see how you guys pinpoint to file system and not to hardware failure. Which can happen to any piece of hardware.
>>54416336
I've lost files because of ext2.
Opensores not even once.
>>54416346
>i'm a clueless retard and know nothing of computers except that apel is best cuz deyr marketing teem told me so
>prove me rong
>LOL U CANT
Fuck off retard.
>>54416329
>No. Because no one's retarded enough to use macshit for mission critical roles.
It's actually against the EULA
>>54416383
My MBR got damaged while formatting for EXT3 partitions.
DisableExtremeScrollAcceleration.app
>>54416377
If it was a hardware failure the hardware would have failed.
>>54416445
Oh really? Then I guess you ain't familiar with the concept of wear & tear. Anyway happy to see you have valid reasons to hate on Apple, carry on chap
>>54416490
I'm in no way an Apple hater, it's just a well known fact that their FS is shit. I can't find the website but there used to be a place that gave you instructions on how to reliably corrupt files in HFS+ just by moving them around
>>54416412
>>54416445
>>54416383
>>54416329
This is why I use the tried and true UFS. If it aint broke don't fix it.
>>54416522
>tfw you can no longer install OS X on a UFS partition
>>54416567
>>tfw you use OSX
>>54416642
>le OS X sux maymay
I know you don't have middleschool tomorrow but isn't it still past your bedtime?
>>54416701
>>le OS X iz gud maymay
I know you don't use your mac for anything other than updating facebook, but isn't shilling macshit OS when it's clearly shit counter-intuitive to its progress?
>>54416783
>le facebook machine meme
Anon please, you're just further exposing your retardation.
>>54416850
>le max can do mor dan facebook meme
niceme.me
>>54416783
Why does he update? Just run iterm2 /tmux in fullscreen with whatever version of OS X he likes.
>>54416783
i stopped reading at the printing bit. both linux and osx have always utilized cups, the exact same way to print. guy is retarded
>>54416908
I'm done, I'm not going to argue with an imbecile.
>>54415021
>you'll never have the smug satisfaction of using Snow Leopard while windows users cry trying to use Windows Vista again
No, it's the ONLY modern OS.
>>54416966
But now we get to witness people being forced to upgrade to Windows 10.
Vista wasn't even as terrible as it was made out to be, while Windows 10 is much worse than people give it credit for.
>>54419716
>upscaled 1080p to 8k
for what purpose
>>54419738
Nobody is being forced to upgrade to 10. Only the morons who set windows to automatically install updates get it forced on them. Which to be fair, they did tell Windows to automatically install updates, and Windows 10 is technically an update.
Honestly, OS X is just as bad about this, I have updates set to ask me before downloading and installing, and there has been times when I'll notice the internet slow down, and lo and behold there's an update it's asking my permission to download. I hit download and it's already halfway downloaded. Why pretend to give the option to hold off on downloading if it's just going to do it anyways? At least I get to choose when my computer restarts.
>>54419716
>macshit
>modern os
2/10 that's the best I can give you.
>>54412937
http://youtu.be/fVrQdz_x9hs
every single thread
>>54420002
>a macfag got SO anal destroyed he went home and made this video in his blind seething frothing rage to "strike back" at those "evul jerkface freetards"
lmao
>>54419754
>upscaled 1080p to 8k
What are you talking about?
>>54419980
Windows 10 doesn't even have tabs in the file manager and Linux is a clusterfuck for daily use.
>>54420167
the wallpaper is blurry
>>54420191
Because it's a 2880x1800 wallpaper upscaled to fit 5k.
It's not noticeable in person thanks to being a high PPI screen.
>>54420167
>calls linux a clusterfuck
>uses macshit os
Ok kid.
>>54420214
Linux is a great OS, but OS X is simply better for desktop use.
>>54420235
>Linux is a great OS
for what exactly?
FreeBSD is better in every imaginable way as the role of a server.
But you are correct that opensores is awful on the desktop.
I don't understand it. I mean i tried it in virtualbox and it's just ubuntu with some ricing. Sure, there are some famous nonfree app, but if you use it just as a facebook machine then it's not different from a riced ubuntu.
>>54420214
Yes. I've used both extensively.
In OS X I can copy a file in finder and paste it into a terminal to get the direct path, with backslashes included. You simply won't see that kind of functionality on Linux.
Developers STILL haven't upgraded to GTK3 and even if they did there are still a billion different GUI toolkits that you may run into, leading to a less cohesive UI.
Linux also has awful high PPI support. Even Windows does a lot better.
>>54420277
You don't have the same buyer's remorse of paying $1300 for a pile of shit, 90% of which went towards the logo, so you don't have the same post-purchase rationalization to try and lie to yourself that you didn't get scammed like applel customers do.
>>54420105
Wow man, just wow.
>>54420277
>I mean i tried it in virtualbox
So you used it without any hardware acceleration and broken everything?
>it's just ubuntu with some ricing
That's a pretty horrible analogy.
>but if you use it just as a facebook machine then it's not different from a riced ubuntu.
Better file manager, better applications in general, FAR better window manager, high PPI support, better UI in general, etc.
Unity is nothing like OS X. Same with Gnome 3. Just because some aspects look vaguely similar to OS X doesn't mean they function in similar ways.
>>54420378
>Better file manager
Stopped reading. Fuck off retard.
>>54420391
Unity's file manager is trash. Then again you probably can't use anything other than Ubuntu.
>>54416021
>Compiz fiasco
Not him, but I don't remember. I do remember that around 2006-7 everybody in the Linux community was talking about Beryl / Compiz but then I don't know what happened later.
Save us based scatman
>>54412937
Yes.
>>54412937
Meme: An element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.
so id probs say osx itself is not a meme, however the discursive process whereby consumers learn of apple and its products with OSX is certainly a meme. people love to imitate after all!!!
>>54420418
>>54420378
since the other dude left im gonna fall for ur 4/10 but like cmon man youre talking about file managers and linux??? you really think an adv of osx, which tries very hard to keep the user locked into the default settings, over linux would be something like a file manager?
mmaaaaaaaaaaaann thats lame lol get outta here im leaving too lets both go become important members of sociey
>>54413206
What am I seeing here?
>>54414031
shut your whore mouth
op here. I've been using osx for a few months and I love it, never had problems unlike when using windows, but why is scrolling and windows resizing so laggy?
>>54419738
Windows 10 is actually pretty good and smooth.
>>54416783
>lack of virtualization
What does this mean? You can't run VMs on OSX?
>>54412937
As a Windows user, what is wrong with this webm? Do I need to be autistic to understand?
>>54422314
Nice try fuck face im op
>>54413115
What are you talking about? OS X is one of the least touch-inspired OS these days
>>54412937
With the alternative being Windows? No.
>>54421839
>Apple Dev(s) writing "Mac OS X gcc sucks"
>>54413115
OSX is how touch desktop computing should be done.
>>54423347
The scrolling acceleration curve on macs is retarded.
I used OSX El Capitan with a magic trackpad for about 3 months. No windows. No linux.
In my opinion:
+Font rendering is better
+Gestures (specially with that software, bettertouchtool) are pretty nice
+Scrolling is fairly fast on Safari, truly that browser as shitty as people say it is because of no webbum support, performs better than anything I tried on all systems
+Most applications share consistency in terms of design
+Have never had tearing issues
+Having two applications side by side on full screen has so far worked better than on Windows (you would have to enable hiding the taskbar plus you can't hide the toolbar on any browser)
However
-It's slightly laggy. At times it will show actual frame drops. That's unpleasant and doesn't just happen on Windows under the same machine.
-The file manager has a weird way of rearranging files
-There's a dark mode that only considers -two- elements, the rest remains light
-It does look like it's much better suited for hiDPI displays
-Mouse support not that great
-Adobe tools slightly slower than on Windows, some of them don't really have a one window mode so it kinda looks like playing with gimp so to speak
-Maximize, rather than fullscreen, doesn't really work well (sometimes it only expands vertically, sometimes it doesn't, it's pretty erratic). Bettertouchtool is almost a requirement for this, or some other window manager.
-Launchpad looks like a touchscreen menu even though this operating system would never be designed for a device with a touchscreen, as opposed to Windows.
Then there's linux too, but performance wise it's telling me that my hardware sucks. And I'm not buying new hardware just to play with linux so on Windows I stand.
>>54423554
>Having two applications side by side on full screen
You can do that on a mac?
>>54423584
Yeah.
Hold the fullscreen button on a window (that green one) and it will put it on one side of the screen, then let you choose another opened window.
Then if you're using something like safari, you can hide the toolbar which will pretty much make it fullscreen, no borders, no scrollbars, nothing. Just at one side of the screen. it's pretty cool to do that while watching some stupid show. I use an ultrawide screen and I can use that extra space.
>>54412937
Yo open up finder, go into file "kind" mode and delete all files from one category.
Enjoy glitch
>>54423554
>-Adobe tools slightly slower than on Windows, some of them don't really have a one window mode so it kinda looks like playing with gimp so to speak
gimp has one window mode tho
Osx has awful accessibility, thats why i dont use it
>>54423708
Yeah but you know what I mean. By default GIMP has more than one window, InDesign for instance does the same in OSX. It's just one window on Windows. Window windows window.
>>54423683
>First week with OSX
>Can't find system files
>Oh hey this command shows these hidden folders
>System/Library
>Let's place a shortcut on the side panel
>You know what, "Library" doesn't really mean anything if I don't know which "Library" folder it is, there are three. Let's rename this shortcut "System Library"
>Oops, seems like I renamed the actual folder
>Oops, everything stopped working
>Oops
>>54412937
>>54423975
Problem?
>>54423743
Cute fake greentext. Theres no rename option for folders created by OSX.
Ubuntu confirmed for childish meme OS outta my way OSX masterrace coming through
>>54424002
i think the OP thinks that scrolling is somehow bad??? so disable all the features so it doesnt offend your autism.
>>54423975
is their a way to make the scroll bars permanent / larger?
>>54424051
system preferences > general
>>54424051
>>54415681
For normies who don't do anything beyond clicking GUIs, yes.
As developer having to use OS X for my job is constant cringe.
>>54424100
why not virtualize your precious arch loonix
>>54424136
The problem is Xcode here. Everything is tied together in one inefficient mess.
Want to have different panels on different screens?
Out of luck
Want to instantly switch between browser and code?
Out of luck
Want to quickly switch to emulator and code?
Out of luck
Want to organize open windows in an efficient way?
Out of luck
Want to use your own editor?
Out of luck
Quick terminal access, vim switching, custom build system?
Out of luck
I bet you're just not used to having an efficient workflow, and you find drag-and-drop programming fine because it looks simply amazing beautiful, but I don't. OS X has a low hard limit on productivity.
>>54424205
dont use xcode
>>54424218
I can only wish
>>54424244
sublime text and command line tools from homebrew work good enough on my machine
>>54424056
>>54424088
and thicker??
>>54424485
I don't think you can. The defaults seem pretty thick to me. Do you actually click and drag them or something?
>>54424641
yes, thats one of the things i dont like about osx, it forces users into a specific work flow
>>54424651
Fair enough.
>>54420287
You can copy a file and paste its path to a terminal, what are you talking about?
>>54419716
background?
preferably without the filter
How you do remap the text navigation keybinds in OS X? I don't want to use alt to move between words.
>>54420287
>Linux also has awful high PPI support. Even Windows does a lot better
really? i can't believe linux is worse than win 10 on high ppi screens. win 10 looks decent in 1080p but in 4k looks like absolute poop
>>54412937
Unix with a glossy GUI and proprietary partition format.
That is a summary of OS X.
>>54423469
os x has no touch support tho?
it's designed entirely around a touchpad but that doesn't mean it has touch support
>>54423554
you used it on non-apple hardware right?
>>54423630
Never knew that. That's cool.
>>54415321
>video editor
>>54412937
Isn't everything a meme?
>>54424889
you can tell by his writing style that he is poor
>>54424972
you can't criticize os x if you're running a hackintosh or something. it's designed and optimized for use on macbooks and imacs.
>>54424889
Not him, but I have run OS X in Macs since 2006 and I agree with everything he said. In fact I also run Windows 10 on a Mac and it's faster.
>>54423299
Pretty sure he's saying OS X is incapable of a type 1 hypervisor, multiple type 2 hypervisors exist for it.
>>54423554
>-Maximize, rather than fullscreen, doesn't really work well (sometimes it only expands vertically, sometimes it doesn't, it's pretty erratic).
That's because maximize is a worthless function that only existed because we were stuck with 640x480 screens in the 90s that didn't allow for more than one window at a time if you actually wanted to do anything. It's like complaining OS X doesn't have a task bar when it has mission control instead. The applications that benefit from "maximizing" without being full screened still work the way you'd expect, such as photoshop.
>-Launchpad looks like a touchscreen menu even though this operating system would never be designed for a device with a touchscreen, as opposed to Windows.
Why even use it? It's completely optional. It's like complaining about the touchscreen mode in Windows 10 when you don't have to use it ever.
>>54424889
I have an rMBP and a 5k iMac. Most of his post is legit even on Apple hardware. Shit like iTunes scrolling being laggy on a new Mac is ridiculous.
I'd even add that the force touch trackpads are not clicky enough.
>>54412937
>I'm too dumb to resize and scroll my windows
Sucks to be you.
>>54425602
>you don't need scrolling anyways!
ebin
>>54426000
So you are also too dumb to read. Just remove yourself from gene pool, retard.
>>54426118
I'm not OP. You can't even tell what's wrong with the pic in OP, can you? It's a well known fact OS X's scrolling acceleration is retarded.
>>54426306
And you clearly have no spatial awareness because he's clearly scrolling with a trackpad. His video is demonstrating how laggy the scrolling is on the main bits of iTunes.
>>54426306
>It's a well known fact OS X's scrolling acceleration is retarded
No, it's not. You're just saying you hate it so everybody else has to as well. Fuck off, mongol.
>>54412937
Even X11 works better than that, and it's almost 30 years old, with a lot of extensions cobbled on.
Damn, Open source programmers really are geniuses.
>>54427226
No, Quartz Compositor works way better than X11.
why don't people just use what they want and enjoy all OS benefits
Never been a mac person.But I mean it seems to be polished well? if that is the correct word
>>54420529
Everybody was touting it as the harbinger of YOTLD and the end Windows because muh desktop effects.
>Windows can't do that
>Linux innovates
>This is what was missing for Linux to overtake windows.
Except that MS did many of this effects (notably missing the cube effect) on a tech preview of Longhorn.
>Implying anyone here remembers Longhorn.
And regarding the search of the killer app. Everybody thought that is there was an app that Windows didn't have, that would encourage people to make the switch to Linux.
I remember Amarok (1.4) being a strong competitor for the title of the killer app; and how everyone on the community shat on them when they started providing Windows builds
>>54423975
god bless you
>>54424852
>OSX is how touch desktop computing should be done.
>os x has no touch support tho?
Exactly
does el capitan come with any video editing software on fresh install? building hackintosh soon and was wondering.
>>54424485
THICC
>>54412937
Yes it is...
But since I have a Mac I use it. Would hurt pretty bad if I installed anything else on it, because I spend THIS MUCH money on it
>pic related, fresh install
>>54421817
>ries very hard to keep the user locked into the default settings
No it doesn't.
>>54423720
You're retarded, OS X has the best accessibility. When VoiceOver debuted, I pretended I was blind for a month (screen shade enabled) and could do everything easily.
Windows is a mess in that capacity. The capability is there but software's so bad that it's tough to use.
>>54424244
You can do everything you can do from the GUI from the command line, read a manual son.
>>54424832
Glossy went out over ten years ago, it's muted colors but mostly grey now anon.
>>54427112
I'm scrolling on an older Mac Mini here without issues, my library is huge too. Pic related.
Here's what OP did:
>figure out iTuness process ID
>sudo renice 19 it
>HUR DURR LOOK HOW SLOW OS X IS!
>>54429659
OH GOD HELP ME!!!!!
>>54415428
>PowerPC
>>54419934
I've never once seen a Mac auto-upgrade to major new versions. It does minor versions (10.11.3 -> 10.11.4) but never major versions.
If you want to turn off auto-download just pop open your App Store preference panel in System Preferences (pic). Way more straightforward than the dialog tunnel Windows forces you through to get to settings like this and comparable to finding the same setting in most desktop linux distros.
>>54415771
Honestly I think OS X going 100% FOSS would ultimately kill it. The linux supremacy buzzards would adopt the parts of it they like and then poison its development with political drama and useless opinions, causing OS X desktop usage to tumble down to that of desktop Linux and letting Windows take over the entire desktop market.
>>54425515
>That's because maximize is a worthless function that only existed because we were stuck with 640x480 screens in the 90s that didn't allow for more than one window at a time if you actually wanted to do anything. It's like complaining OS X doesn't have a task bar when it has mission control instead. The applications that benefit from "maximizing" without being full screened still work the way you'd expect, such as photoshop.
Ugh this drives me nuts
>see winfag maximizing a single browser window on a 2560x1440 screen
>site content bunched up in the middle
>africa-sized blank space on the left and right
I'll never understand it
>>54420529
>Not him, but I don't remember. I do remember that around 2006-7 everybody in the Linux community was talking about Beryl / Compiz but then I don't know what happened later.
We died because we used to many fire animations
>>54427279
Did you even watch the webm that was posted?
Oh wait, you're using that meme browser, Safari?
Hello i am using Safari on OS X how i can suppose if its a meme? when i click on the webm this says ERROR
>>54420529
Fun fact: Ubuntu Unity still uses Compiz, which is at version 0.9.12.2.
Versions under 1.0 in software are usually beta or alpha releases.
It's not meme. It's shit.
>>54431399
You just answered your own question.
An OS that ships with a browser that cannot even play webms is a meme.
(and no, it's not just 4chan that uses webm, have you ever heard of youtube)
>>54431277
I've never used Safari but did watch the webm, I fail to see the issue.
>>54431580
>resize at about... 6 frames per second
>cursor is not in sync with the window
>glitchy and laggy scrolling, again at about 6 fps
>>54412937
That's because they use webview or whatever it's called in iTunes since version whatever. Same shit with App Store.
>>54431661
I thought it was just a poorly done webm.
Works on my machine™
>tfw no artwiz font pack for mac
>>54431573
The WebKit team is working on webm support now.
They've been holding off because H.264 hardware accelerated decoding (important for battery life) but hardware accel for VP9 is only on the newest devices. VP9 is not battery-friendly when all you've got is software decoding.
>>54431661
In this case all those inconsistencies stem from iTunes in particular being a pile of shit. Its codebase is well over 15 years old now, and it was originally written for Classic (pre-UNIX) Mac OS. It should've been rewritten from scratch ages ago.
Scrolling in any other native OS X app is silky and is perfectly consistent between apps. iTunes really fucks shit up badly.
>>54432408
>They've been holding off because H.264 hardware accelerated decoding (important for battery life)
Oops, spaced out there. Meant to say that H.264 HW accel is super super common and devices as far back as 2008 are capable of it. By comparison the number of devices equipped with VP9 HW dec are a tiny handful at best.
>>54412937
>zamilska
Nice. Do you like it?
>>54432441
There will never be more than a tiny handful of VP9 devices.
It's the Realplayer of the 21st century.
>>54432950
i do, anon, also she's a qt
>>54433395
Saw her live in Brussels.. metal qt
>>54433234
Chrome, Firefox, Microsoft Edge and Opera all support VP9.
YouTube runs on VP9.
H.265 is a meme.
>>54420287
this is wrong and you know it
>>54433735
I guess that means that our phones, tablets, and laptops are all going to be battery-devouring furnaces then, because decoding is going to be happening exclusively on our CPUs most of the time unless there are big change in SoC and integrated GPU designs.
>>54432408
I don't think Apple will ever allow webm in Safari. iOS devices have no hardware decoder for VP codecs, and Apple likes their feature parity.
>>54415832
Mac is clearly better from that diagram.
>>54432408
>The WebKit team is working on webm support now.
Webkit has WebM support since 2012. It's up to Apple to enable it in Safari.
>>54433735
That's software not devices, Pajeet.
>>54424100
>As developer having to use OS X for my job is constant cringe.
I use OS X as my daily driver for development. C++, as well as HTML/JS/CSS. It's a fucking dream compared to my Centos box.
Grand central Dispatch is amazing and saves a lot of effort over the long run.
>>54429659
>When VoiceOver debuted, I pretended I was blind for a month (screen shade enabled)
>>54436378
>Centos
your problem right there
>>54439141
My thinking was, if I was ever struck blind I'd still be able to use my computer no problem.
>>54424100
you clearly haven't spent any time learning how to use the system.
remember how you learned to be a windows power user? yeah, until you do that, stfu
all these wincucks in here who think that Mac OS is some unsupported bubble wrapped turd, even though they've never objectively evaluated the system through first-hand testing and usage.
you're a developer? you wanna write assembly code? you wanna disassemble software? everything supports Mac OS X. virtually everything. google software_x + mac version, and bam.
you'll find that the mac version is usually better (NOT ALWAYS, not always, but usually) especially on the bigger stuff. this is because the NS api is really fucking good, especially compared to the crap they pass off as an API for windows.
arch/gentoo enthusiasts, you can compile shit on mac os, no problem, hell i've done it myself in multiple situations just for kek's, not that it was necessary.
developing on a mac is also easier because all devices have the same libraries and configs, and software versions. apple is very good at dropping support for shit that's too old, so the market doesn't fragment. yeah, end users have to pay more money, but so the fuck what? they get a better experience, and it's not that much money in the long run anyway. none of your users who are running software on a 15 year old machine are going to buy your shit anyway
>>54442294
this
people who say mac is shit are just windows and linux shills. it is expensive, yes, but you can't say it's shit
>>54442294
>even though they've never objectively evaluated the system through first-hand testing and usage.
I have. I love my macbook pro but OS X is trash.
>>54427143
>t. never used os x
Why can't microsoft rewrite Windows using Unix kernel? Can it be done?
>>54442966
they should get rid of the registry while they're at it. shit's a joke
On ubunutu when you drag a window to the corner it can be set to take half the screen. I know el capishit offers a splitview option but it's utter bullshit. Is there a way to have the same splitview as on ubuntu but on mac?
>>54443005
there is a way but you probably couldnt afford it
>>54423447
So apple devs know the truth too and avoid freetard bugs? I call it professionalism.
>>54412937
Yep, modern OS X is definitely a meme.
Mac veterans held on until Tiger until they switched back to Windows or Linux. Veteran diehards stayed till Snow Leopard. Newer, especially Yosemite and El Cap are so fucking meme, that they're the 9fag of operating systems, beyond reddit faggotry.
>>54443197
what's the difference between pre Yosemite osx and post Yosemite osx apart from UI?
>>54443228
>UI Performance, battery life and heat production under general use has gotten worse.
>non-retina text legibility has suffered
>iOSification featuring Launchpad, reverse scrolling
>downgrading of Expose, with Mission control being slower and worse in terms of usability compared to 10.6 Expose
>>54412937
Not a meme. Just an ancient and totally fucking useless bug-filled bloated shit-pile of an OS used by pretentious children who want to think they are cool, but are really just retarded fucking assholes.
>>54443171
I can give you about 1$
>>54442177
Windows is even worse. Mac OS is just a bunch of proprietary shit tied together, no first party package manager, it's not a serious candidate.
>>54434021
Some Samsung phones, NVIDIA and Intel cards already support VP9. Decoding 1080p VP9 isn't THAT bad on battery. 4K however, that's another story, but you can't really do 4K at a feasible bitrate on H.264 and HEVC/H.265 is not hardware accelerated by most devices either.
>>54442420
Been using it for over half a decade, nice try.
>>54444646
So in other words you got used to the abuse, fucking delusional macfag.
https://searx.me/?q=os%20x%20scrolling%20acceleration&categories=general
I wonder why so many of these results yield the world "disabling".
osx isn't that bad, but what is fucking infuriating about it is using the finder. that shit is inferior to windows explorer in every way, and even inferior to most linux file managers.
for fucks sake if you want to drag something to a folder, you cant just drag it over the folder and let go, because as soon as you hover over one it fucking enters the folder and then if you want to go back you have to take the extra steps to click the back button, extra time wasted.
and good luck being fast enough to drag it before the thing fucking enters the folder, because half the time you are either too slow and the other half it drops them into the wrong place.
>>54445396
Nah, I'm just not retarded. Not my fault if you can't figure out how to use a trackpad.
>>54445486
>just don't use a mouse lol
HAHA HOLY SHIT look at all this damage control
>>54445516
>things I never said
What damage control? Goddamned moron.
>>54445554
>ifag calls others morons
Oh the Irony!
>>54445587
>lel he uses Apple products he must be retarded xDDDD
You're free to stop posting at any time, anon. I suggest you take that advice, you're only making yourself look stupider with every post.
>>54445444
That's called spring loading and it's present not just in the file manager, but also in other parts of the system - dragging and holding a file over an open application in the Dock, for instance, will pop you into expose where you can then choose which window to target with your drop.
This feature has been part of Mac OS since the late 90s and isn't going to go away just because your slow ass can't figure out if the folder you're hovering over is the one you actually want within a 1.5 - 2 second delay before the spring triggers.
One of the reasons I like OS X is because it has lots of its own UI conventions that it's carried over from its rich Classic Mac OS and NeXTSTEP heritage. Don't you dare try to bleach it into the Win9X paradigm blandness that literally every other major desktop OS is plagued with. Desktop operating systems need MORE variety, not less. It's fucking boring enough as it is.
>>54445444
>and good luck being fast enough to drag it before the thing fucking enters the folder
Arte you somehow disabled or mentally challenged?
Spring loading folders is basically the only OSX feature I'm missing with Linux.
>>54423743
>OS X hides feature assuming the user is retarded
>user disables feature and goes on to prove he's retarded
Hidden features are hidden because of people like YOU.
>>54426306
>. You can't even tell what's wrong with the pic in OP, can you?
I just see a spastic person doing weird shit with his desktop and then making a thread complaining "look what apple is doing to me buhuuu"
>>54427279
>Quartz Compositor works way better than X11.
Of course it does.
>>54423554
>Then there's linux too, but performance wise it's telling me that my hardware sucks
Just don't use cancerous shit like KDE or Gnome3 and you can use Linux with 10 years old computers.
>>54443312
You just described Windows 10.
>>54442388
>OS X is trash
Yet it's still better than Windows or Linux as a desktop OS by about a million miles.
>>54443197
>so fucking meme
LOL it's basically exactly the fucking same as it's always been.
>>54443621
>no first party package manager
MacPorts is a first-party package manager doofus.
>>54445444
>as soon as you hover
That shit can be changed with the Defaults command, like many parts of OS X there may not be options in the control panel that do what you want, but the Defaults command can access many hidden or unofficial features.
>>54420287
>In OS X I can copy a file in finder and paste it into a terminal to get the direct path, with backslashes included. You simply won't see that kind of functionality on Linux.
I did it with GNOME and KDE, and this feature was available since a lot of time ago. Why are you lying?
I just can't believe that a discussion over this matter here has the level of a 12 years old kids quarrel.
It's a good thing Crapple is getting out of the computer business and just sticking to jewelry (phones and watches). OSX was nothing but cancer from day one and it's older than XP for fuck's sake.
>>54452990
>literally retarded
>>54452990
>getting out of the computer business
Hi Mike.
>>54452990
0/10
>>54451275
It's still trash relatively.
>>54445613
He's not me, but I agree. You're either fucking retarded or just pretending to be.
>>54453015
>>54453190
>>54455823
Stay mad.
>>54456335
OS X has been god-tier since it came out, that has not changed.
>>54456369
There's no need to lie on the internet.
Even Apple knows OSX was a hackjob hobbyOS pile of shit since it came out.
>>54442294
To be fair you can do all that in Windows and Linux too if you know what you're doing. OSX isn't shit but I prefer linux.
>>54451275
OSX is not trash but I prefer Linux.
>>54451275
>Yet it's still better than
0/10
>>54456386
It has little things like that that piss you people off yet is still a better desktop OS than your precious Linux
>>54456524
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8
>>54456542
>Safari == OS X
I have never had that happen with any of the programs I use.
>>54456542
Maximize is damn near useless on a large screen, particularly with web browsers. Maximized browser window == acres of unused space.
Safari tries to figure out the width of the site's actual content and then zooms the window to fit. In fact, that's how most Mac apps make the zoom button function because OS X window management is centered around content-fitting windows.
Is somebody going to fucking explain what the issue is with the OP webm or not? It's been LITERALLY 2 days
>>54456651
I explained it in >>54432408:
>In this case all those inconsistencies stem from iTunes in particular being a pile of shit. Its codebase is well over 15 years old now, and it was originally written for Classic (pre-UNIX) Mac OS. It should've been rewritten from scratch ages ago.
>
>Scrolling in any other native OS X app is silky and is perfectly consistent between apps. iTunes really fucks shit up badly.
>>54456524
>desktop OS
what does this mean?
don't bother answering, this is how it's going to down
>thirty thousand shitposts later
>"a normie-friendly OS with software that's needed by a minority of jobs and a LoL port"
>>54456686
Ah I get it now thx
>>54445444
I just dragged a file into a folder in finder and nothing happened. The file just vanished from the current view and is now residing in the folder. This only happens if you spend a whole fucking second hovering over the folder. It's a useful feature if you actually have motor skills.
>>54456711
>what does this mean?
An OS with a GUI
>>54456742
So linux* is a desktop OS then? Alright.
*KDE/Freedesktop.org/and a little bit of GNU/Linux
>>54456765
It's a bad desktop OS.
