Time to upgrade...
>tfw SP1 with updates turned off
>no connection to the internet (for updates)
im fine
windows 7 is fine (as fine as malware gets)
>>54401268
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/05/04/microsoft-warns-windows-7-boot-up-problem/#38482ff1395e
>>54401284
>updates turned off
congrats you're retarded :)
>>54401297
microsoft has been attempting to sabotage win7 to force everyone over to win10
why the fuck would one need updates when they barely fix anything and only exacerbate existing problems
>installing anything but security updates
m8
>>54401297
retarded for what? my OS runs fine
why would I update past what I need to run.
fuck of w10 shill
>>54401287
How do I access this website without running nonfree javascript?
>>54401284
This.
As for security a good av is all you need, I've never allowed updates to run on my pc.
>>54401316
because, regardless what your brain dead sunday school junior hacker friends tell you to appear cool, updates are indeed used to plug security holes. But it looks like MS won't be waiting for third-party vendors to pick up their shit because they don't give a fuck about 7 anymore
>>54401339
riiight, because ms fix anything other than p1
Fuck this. After I get myself new external hdd (and do some backup on it) I'm gonna reformat everything and change to lubeuntu
So this only affects Asus motherboards?
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
>>54401284
You don't even need Windows update anyway considering all the updates can be downloaded and installed manually from Microsoft's website.
>>54401268
upgrade to linux
worldoflinux.org
>>54401268
Who cares, Windows 10 is not even that bad. Especially if you aren't a potato from /v/ who understands how to block communications via your router. Only an idiot thinks he spying is an actual issue.
>being surprised that Microsoft is trying to gimp windows 7 so people will install Windows 10
>even after the Windows 10 update ad for Windows 7
>even after the installation of Windows 10 telemetry for Windows 7
>even after they quietly force installed Windows 10 for some Windows 7 users
How retarded can windowscucks be?
>>54401268
this only applies to Asus motherboards. Microsoft and Asus knew of the problem, and M$ decided to make it a recommended update anyway, breaking Windows for some Asus users. The update in question is KB3133977.
Asus provides a workaround for affected systems here:
http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1016356/
Macrocunt, of course, used this opportunity on the update information page to plug windows 10.
>>54401478
ABOUT THAT
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/05/03/microsoft-limits-direct-update-downloads/
lol
>>54401508
>Only an idiot thinks he spying is an actual issue.
>thinks he spying
No wonder you like W10.
>>54401508
windows 10 is actually horrible, regardless of the spying
>Upgrade to Windows 10.
>Steam has issues downloading games. Will randomly pause shit.
>Disconnects a few times a day, for absolutely no reason.
>Can't printscreen and copy screenshots directly to anything. Have to go to Imgur for whatever fucking reason.
>Wallpapers are compressed more than usual.
>No real differences. Same speed. Same everything.
What the fuck was the point of upgrading?
>>54401268
Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1
Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu
Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX
https://archive.is/qLRZx
Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/thsGd
https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ
https://archive.is/ko469
https://archive.is/l6pmO
https://archive.is/zK93U
Micrcrosoft automatically downloads Windows 10 on PCs running
Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 (between 3.5GB and 6GB), even if
users have not opted-in:
http://archive.is/CEvKh
Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
https://archive.is/KQsBh
Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy
> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
>>54401532
Sorry, but i'm not this autistic over UI scheme
>>54401532
>context menu looks different depending on the context
oh no
>>54401557
Same things apply to Google, Apple and the Linux kernel which is under NSA control through SELinux.
>>54401557
nice pasta.
Don't forget Microsoft offers services that necessitated this collection, and can be disabled otherwise!
>It's a wincucks cling desperately to their botnet episode
>tfw you're part of the botnet
>>54401596
Akarin is not part of the botnet
>>54401268
>Time to upgrade...
I switched to Linux. If I really need to I can run Win8 in a VM.
>>54401558
>>54401563
i'm not going to sit here and argue with you. If you want to use wangblows 10 as a facebook gaming machine more power to you. You're either not power users, paid shills, or you've found some ill conceived way to rationalize windows 10's pitfalls.
It's bloated, functionality was downgraded, and apart from minor performance improvements on older hardware and a couple new features, it's worse is every conceivable way.
>>54401580
>Linux kernel which is under NSA control through SELinux
>>54401618
I like to game and use a system with competent drivers from time to time is all.
Linux is great and all, but there is literally no compare when it comes to the desktop shell experience
How long until Microshaft starts creating devastating malware tailored towards W7.
>>54401318
Im almost sure botnet updates have been disguised as security updates before.
>>54401608
She know how turn on a computer?
>>54401638
>I like to game and use a system with competent drivers from time to time is all.
so do I I'm a wangblows user myself. I'm sticking to 7 though because it's not complete shit
Haven't updated since 2010.
>>54401685
>kill the main product
Why?
>>54401268
>serious problem
>just turn off UEFI in the BIOS
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>54401618
>cries about context menu inconsistencies
>calls others facebook gamers
okay anon...
>>54401558
>sorry, but I have no standards for quality, windows 10 is fine and everybody should upgrade, even though nothing about it is any good at all. people who want things that don't suck are just autistic
>>54401707
W7 is old news and 10 has a bunch of UI improvements though lol. Yeah there are a lot of security issues but it's mostly FSF-zealot FUD
>>54401526
Lol they are literally trying to kill it.
>>54401730
Sorry, but I don't concern myself with petty issues like UI consistency.
>>54401730
the reworked start menu is much better than 7, which was literally the only issue anyone had with 8. Then there's the updates and improved support that comes with a newer version...
>told my mom not to update to win10
>it auto updates to window 10
>now half of her devices don't work
>muh automatic drivers
>>54401719
To force those non-retarded to move to W10? I know if they actually pull something like this im seriously and permanently moving to linux.
>>54401638
And the desktop shell experience of windows 10 is a slapdash inconsistent mess.
>the reason I use windows is because of the good desktop UI. no I don't care that the desktop UI isn't good
>TFW macrocucks will defent this.
>>54401754
>>now half of her devices don't work
what do you mean my ISA graphics adapter doesn't work??? fucking windows 10
>>54401762
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>54401533
Oh look this anon is retarded, but blames it on the OS.
>>54401764
no it isn't. It's exactly the same as 7, with a better start menu and a mobile OS on top if you want to run some of your mobile apps on your desktop.
It's worth it too considering how lightweight MDL2 is overall
>>54401268
>tfw my parents wanted to update and i told them if they did so it'd brick itself
always works
>>54401339
great post, pajeet
>>54401775
who is this?
>>54401807
Gnu/Daddy.
>>54401805
nice try, stallman
>>54401742
>I don't concern myself with petty issues like the user interface that I have to interact with 100% of the time I'm using the operating system.
Do you concern yourself with anything? Let me guess, you concern yourself with all of windows 10's meager benefits, but not any of its flaws. Shill.
>>54401807
Nishikino Maki
If anyone creates the year of the Linux desktop, it'll be Microsoft. Jesus.
>>54401790
The windows 10 start menu sucks dick. Jesus.
>>54401836
you really think different looking context menus are that big of an issue? It's supposed to look different
>>54401725
It's not about the UI (although the UI is also shit). It's about the entire paradigm. There are now two types of applications: store apps and desktop apps. UWP (store) apps don't follow any of the rules of normal apps (they can ignore the hosts file for example) and all follow a completely different design. You can't even uninstall the bloat without ps1 scripts, and even if you do windows will throw (literally) tens of thousands of entries into the event log as they constantly try to run for whatever reason.
The settings menu is a great example of this. Everything that exists in the settings menu used to exist in the control panel. But now it's both. So now you're switching between two completely different UI styles just to do something that worked perfectly well before.
The context menus only serve as an example of the amalgamation of spagetti code shit in windows 10. In 7 there was 1 shell. That's it. 10 has everything 7 did. It also has everything 8.1 did. And piled precariously on top of the already bloated windows code base you have the "new" windows 10 UI.
It's not simply about the UI looking shitty, it's about the entire experience being jarring, and the clear lack of direction.
Of course, this is only one of the many, many issues with windows 10.
>>54401850
it's better than the 7 start menu. It's more content rich and the only complaint people had about 8.1 was that they couldn't look at their weebums while searching the start screen, so...
>>54401790
>>with a better start menu
>can't even search for executables with full indexing anymore
>>54401859
just don't use any store apps then
also the reworked settings app (particularly in the fast ring) is better then the busted old control panel
>>54401855
I think the fact that the UI is slapped together out of 4 separate design languages is a tremendous issue, yeah. The context menus are only one part of it.
>>54401765
They actually are too, the shilling is real.
>>54401765
7 is how old now?
it's time, anon, let it go
>>54401896
it's two, that are almost entirely separate, but okay. It's not like GNOME, KDE, or xorg are any better haha
>>54401868
That's because you should be using apps now anon.... unless... you're a terrorist
>>54401882
>just don't use any store apps then
alternatively I can just stick to 7. Win10 will actively push store apps, bloat, and continue to break more things for users like me with Cortana integrations, etc.
Windows 7 works out of the box. I don't have a win7 folder with 30+ scripts to unfuck it, nor a 3rd party start menu or any other supplemental software.
I've spent hours fighting 10 and it's not worth it. To get it to work the way I want it needs to be broken, and I'm not going to use a broken OS.
I've been using windows since 95 but I'm done, 10 along with 8.0 and vista are just objectively bad OSes, each in their own respects.
I'll weigh my options in 2020 when support for 7 ends. Linux mint is pretty comfy for non-gaming stuff anyway.
>>54401921
GNOME and KDE are pretty consistant.
They have autists who make it their personal duty to check for consistancy.
It's nowhere near the shambles that is Windows 10.
>>54401638
>I like to game and use a system with competent drivers from time to time is all.
Like GNU/Linux?
Last time I installed Windows 8.1 I had to download the drivers for the Intel iGPU manually, Windows Update did download them after a while but they didn't even support OpenGL 2.1
There's no worse OS drivers wise than Windows
>>54401960
> Win10 will actively push store apps, bloat, and continue to break more things for users like me with Cortana integrations, etc.
Funny how you say these things yet they never seem to happen to me on my laptop that came with Win10.
Amazing how all these Windows 7 users complain about all these annoyances they experience with Win10, yet I never see them in daily use...
>>54401618
gaming and RDP are the only reasons I still use it...
help me, /g/???
>>54401786
I had none of those issues with Windows 7.
>>54401330
You system will be vunerable and worms will exploit it without you even knowing. Enjoy your rekt.
>>54401979
>>continue to break more things for users like me
>Amazing how all these Windows 7 users complain about all these annoyances they experience with Win10, yet I never see them in daily use...
that's because you're not a user like me.
>>54401339
Which is why you search for updates once a week, and investigate each update, not have it all installed automatically you mongrel
>>54401921
It's four, actually. There's cruft from the windows 95-2000 design language, cruft from XP, and cruft from Vista-7. Now they've piled on another layer with metro, and of course, they'll never bother to actually finish it by the time flat had become passe and it's time for a new half-assed redesign.
>>54401960
>Windows 7 works out of the box. I don't have a win7 folder with 30+ scripts to unfuck it, nor a 3rd party start menu or any other supplemental software.
This is what annoys me with winbabbies.
"why do you use loonicks just use windows? it's just werks®"
>can have a debian install from scratch with little work
>windows needs updates, skiddy patches, shonky driver installation and it still has problems --and if you want to upgrade to w10, you'll have to make sure you have a functioning windows install already, or you're in for a long night
Hell, even Arch is easier if you know how to read.
>>54402033
Your right, Windows 10 apparently will only annoy you if you're some retard like yourself.
Amazing how it works perfectly fine for me as I said even when my sole use is a development platform when i'm out and about.
>>54401268
This only affects ASUS computers you retard
>>54401960
>I can just stick to 7
if you want to hold onto a dying platform, sure
>>54402062
>if you're some retard like yourself.
nice ad hominem. And since we're talking about anecdotal experiences I'd like to bring up the fact that VS 2015 crashes almost daily for me on 10 and has not yet crashed at all on 7.
>>54402051
>This is what annoys me with winbabbies
don't misunderstand me anon, I'm comparing 7 to 10, not 7 to linux. Linux mint worked right out of the box for me as well, with the exception of my graphics driver which I was able to find easily in the package manager.
>Using 8.1
>mfw I stopped getting Win10 update prompts months ago
Feels good.
>>54402117
it's still supported until 2020 and if XP is any indication it will probably be used far beyond that. Seeing as I don't have a better option currently, I see no issue with sticking to supported software that meets my needs.
>>54401973
>freefags unironically believe this
>>54401268
Upgraded to gentoo
>>54401859
XP FOR LIFE MEIN NIGER
>>54402120
>don't misunderstand me anon
I'm agreeing with you, silly.
>>54402120
Sorry friend, but when in reality anecdotal experiences matter the most because I don't give a fuck about how dumb you are in regards to using Windows 10 when I use it just fine and never get any annoyances like you do.
Wouldn't amaze me if you actually left all the ad settings on and didn't even try to edit your menu.
>>54401331
wget
>>54402222
Wget
>>54402222
based quads
>>54402243
Wkek'd
>>54402243
more like get Windows10 am I rite?
>>54402222
Nice get, Pajeet!
>>54402222
>I don't give a fuck about how dumb you are
ad hominem again! this is clearly a one sided conversation so I will concede to your superior logic and undeniable windows 10 knowledge.
nice quads tho
>>54401563
>they have 5 different application eco systems
>they all overlap
>the design philosphy between how they function and how they look has no continuity
>newer designs dont improve or replace old functionality so windows 10 is just windows vista + 7 + 8 + 8.1 +10
it's a fucking nightmare, and this is coming from someone who actually prefers 10 over 7
Is it finally over, /g/?
Is it finally time to switch to Linux for good?
Is the reign of Windows no more?
Has Microshaft crossed that line into unacceptable behavior, such as that committed by Apple?
![aubrey-plaza1[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gPiA5AX.jpg "aubrey-plaza1[2].jpg")
Why do they want me to switch to Windows 10 so badly?
I'm using Windows 7. I'm still using their product. Do they really make so much money selling the information Win 10 gathers from users?
Why don't they make Windows 10 not shitty?
>working IT job at architectural firm
>imaging a new computer for some new consultant
>image finishes, begin running autocad install
>cad install fails
>strange, this almost never happens
>run once more, fails again
>reboot
>WINDOWS IS INSTALLING UPDATES
>updates finish, try to boot back into windows
>jokes on me the updates fucked the install, can't repair or boot into win10
i had to reimage the fucking this
literally the dumbest shit of all time and why i will never move to windows 10 regardless of the botnet
>>54402304
It works better with their cloud and gets more people onto their store ecosystem, which you can ignore if you want.
As for making 10 better, it's already reduced the memory footprint and had many other under the hood improvements applied to it. It's the fastest most lightweight windows out there
>>54401557
>active on over 200 million devices
So is there no chance of escaping the botnet at this point?
>>54402320
Enterprise installs can override auto update. Congratulations, you're bad at your job
so whats the actual problem?
>>54402304
>Why don't they make Windows 10 not shitty?
i do not believe they are capable of this
>>54402340
>So is there no chance of escaping the botnet at this point?
sure there is, just don't use windows 10 and if you plan on using 7/8.1 make sure you uninstall the botnet updates that were pushed back from 10
Is it really hard to stop win10 from logging everything?
>>54402340
given that the botnet is some nebulous FUD spewed by stallbots at this point... not likely
>>54402355
see
>>54401519
>>54402366
yes. firewall router rules are required. You can disable maybe 80%-90% of it from within the OS itself if you're willing to break some stuff, but the hosts file is not reliable in 10.
>>54402387
there's no evidence, outside of some clickbait populist articles that themselves admit they don't really know what's going on, that windows sends information after all of the relevant settings (located in the privacy page in settings) have been turned off
>>54402418
there can't be evidence of WHAT is sent, because windows is closed source, but it absolutely DOES send stuff back, which you can verify with network monitoring traffic. In fact, the privacy options in the setting menu don't even turn off regular telemetry, so I know you're wrong on that basis alone.
>>54402365
yeah just never get a new PC and only buy old expensive parts they don't make anymore
simple as that
>>54401733
>a bunch of ui improvments
no it doesn't, did you see that picture that >>54401532 posted? there's no standardization, plus it's the bastard child of W7 and W8's metro.
>>54402439
that's not how it works and I've become less intelligent from having read your post
>>54401768
Shill.
>>54402436
>>there can't be evidence of WHAT is sent, because windows is closed source, but it absolutely DOES send stuff back, which you can verify with network monitoring traffic.
you can capture the packets sent back and examine them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQyapjh5w3U
>>54402436
you can intuit given how small the amount that is sent that it isn't any personal information. It's likely it's some ping for windows update refresh or something innocuous but definitely not any involved telemetry
>>54402436
I don't care it's the same exact thing Google and Facebook do to everyone
I only use Windows 10 to play games I want directx12 and don't care about the Windows interface as I only see it for about two seconds anyway. Yes Windows is complete shit made by incompetent Indians but I don't care enough to use Windows 7.
>>54402463
really because all newer processors require 10
>>54401297
I use Windows 10 and turned off updates ages ago, its just a matter of time until they fuck Windows 10 up too, to a slow piece of broken shit.
>>54402350
>have to use enterprise OS just to disable automatic updates
Yes, this is a good thing
>>54402484
Almost no games use directx12
>>54402471
the packets are encrypted, I highly doubt the video you posted is real. This probably IS an actual example of FUD.
>>54402481
in my (admittedly non-scientific anecdotal) tests it's still sending back around 7 times as much data as win7, both on clean installs with telemetry disabled to the best of my ability.
>>54402494
support for intel skylake processors is ending in 2017. end of support != incompatibility firstly, and secondly this leaves literally all other hardware options open, except for this 1 confirmed case.
>>54402543
There will be around 20 new games THIS year alone what use DX12 dipshit.
>>54402528
maybe, but the way it's positioned now, *all* future windows will be delivered as a windows 10 update.
>>54402531
It is yep. You can still defer updates for 8 months and the upgrade process has been greatly streamlined and improved
>>54402551
>get told
>resort to namecalling
>>54402544
>it's still sending back around 7 times as much data as win7
That is a bit of a problem. I still believe personally that it's probably harmless, but MS really should come forward over why this is, because it's a good reason not to update and waiting people out is just scummy
>>54402544
Skylake owner with Windows 7 here. This doesn't even matter since the only shit we'll "miss out on" is some "always-on" mic shit for Cortana. Woe is me, I don't get to be spied on 24/7 even when my computer is shut down.
>>54401580
>SELinux
>Botnet
That's retarded
Point out the obvious botnet, like the binary blobs
>>54402555
Yes, and I don't need to update something that works, at least I wont for a good while. There will always be security holes, but actually getting malware that uses them is harder then you think, unless you are my dad watching porn. People are too paranoid, I bet my LTSB Win10 will do fine for years to come.
>>54402551
almost no *good* games use dx12 lol
>>54402575
Not him btw, that was my first post in this thread, just happen to see you told him no games use dx12.
>>54402544
>the packets are encrypted
As it should if it's sending private data
>>54402484
>Google and Facebook
That's your first mistake. Now you're basically admitting you're dependant on this bullshit, with no alternatives. "I don't care" worked out well in 1984, didn't it?
>>54402551
>20 games
Of which you will probably play 7.
Stay mad gaymin /v/ wincuck.
>>54402551
dx12 won't be a significant performance improvement for another year or two probably. Also 20 games might as well be 0 considering how many actual games are released each year on PC.
>>54402601
most games are getting directx 12 patches
>>54402589
tech is evolving all the time. Most of the time it's about taking something that works and making it work better. Updating can cause headaches, but thanks to how they reworked their system and in part to telemetry it's much better now
>all these pajeets
>>54402636
But there won't be anything that would actually make me need to update for at least several years.
>>54402665
>anyone using something I don't like is an indian
>>54402674
if you say so. But 10 is still faster and more lightweight than 7. So though you may not need to upgrade, it's wrong to say that it's bad to do so
>>54402682
t. pajeet
>>54402693
I am talking about 10 dude.
See
>>54402589
>>54402528
>>54402555
>>54402589
>>54402693
>>54402636
apparently the shills have arrived, i'm out
>>54402709
oh well in that case, zero day exploits are more than enough reason to update
>>54402722
>I only shill for FSF because that means I'm smart
kek
Server 2008 R2 for life.
Makes me wish I had Terry's skills to make my own OS
>>54402484
Google and Facebook don't have access to the files you store on your computer or devices such as cameras and microphones.
>>54402780
neither does MS though
>>54402752
He can't even watch Chinese cartoons on it.
>>54402795
He gets off thinking about God.
>>54402023
If you don't do anything besides browsing the web and not being a complete idiot and having one simple av, then everything is fine. ITT: exploit it without knowing, things that never happened. Going strong since windows 7 came out without any problems. All these idiots who think they are more secure if they do all the updates lol
>"we'll give you windows 10 for free!"
>"windows 7 has serious problems!"
>"get it for free soon before we charge you for it!"
Do you not see how hard they're shilling?
Meh, just use Windows 8 with classic shell. Crisis averted.
>put poo in loo in charge
>FUD against your own customers
not surprised.
>>54402905
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-no-longer-allows-administrators-to-block-windows-store-access-in-windows-10-pro/ ;^)
>>54401504
And say goodbye to most of you favorite apps. Really, quit shilling Linux as a desktop OS. It is only one for retards who think going the long way around something is somehow....cool.
It's not.
>>54402023
You don't know much about computers, do you?
>>54404067
go to bed pajeet
If Windows 7 is so shit, why should I trust that their next product will be good?
>APPS
>microsoft now sabotaging /themselves/
we are done for
>>54401855
It's all annoying. Every year/version is
>>54405020
This looks paranoid as fuck.
>>54401618
>i'm not going to sit here and argue with you
>I don't have an argument
>>54402330
>fastest most lightweight
this is marketing babble that comes with almost every software that is released.
>>54402330
Windows 3.1 runs with 1 MiB RAM while Windows 10 needs 2 GiB RAM. This is 2048 times more RAM.
How is this more lightweight?
>>54401618
Windows ME should be in that picture as a papier mache hammer.
>>54401268
>>54405845
THICQ
>>54401580
What about *BSD?
What does this mean for the typical neckbeard using windows seven?
Nothing.
>used win10
>100% HDD usage most of the time
>meanwhile my old HDD worked just fine on win7
>It takes 6-9 seconds for search button to react after clicking on it
Later bought a new SSD but installed win7 instead.
>>54401914
>if it's old then it's bad!
Fuck off.
Honestly reading some of these comments here it really feels like somebody is actively marketing for microsoft.
>>54405967
Posts. Not comments. Posts. Comments can be found under articles and Youtube videos.
I am on Windows 7, Mar 2015 edition if i remember correctly, with updates turned off since then.
Only use it for gayming and Adobe, and gayming is the only thing that has allowed access to the Internet, everything else on the computer is sandboxed (don't even browse the Internet using it, that's what i use OpenSuse for).
I don't have any problem whatsoever, and no faggot is capable of giving me a single technical explanation of how someone could harm my computer via Steam or video game multiplayer sessions, the only 2 ways to do it. The 3rd party Firewall i use also checks the consistency of files and compares them to previous states in order to avert any questionable shit.
And that's how it will stay. Win 7 for gayman and adobe, and Linux for everything else.
>>54405981
t. assburger
>>54405981
and some of these posts feel like they are made by ocd riddled autists
>select all street numbers
>all of them in existence
>>54406008
Sometimes I wonder why /g/ changed so much.
My Digital Life Forums community should stop being mscucked and develop a definitive Win7 ISO with all updates installed and all botnet taken away and call it a day.
>>54406031
you have no idea how fucked the update list is nowdays
>>54401836
Bruh do you even powershell?
>>54406072
No matter how fucked the list is, with effort and patience and a good management format to label and describe them it can all be resolved.
Although
>>54406031
I don't think they have the willpower or the mental capacity to pull off such a thing properly.
>>54406092
or you could just, you know, update
>>54406113
>or you could just, let the burglars rape your wife and take away everything they can, and just keep that gun in the drawer because you are a cuck
>>54406031
=TEAM OS= already does that if you trust them.
https://kat.cr/windows-7-ultimate-sp1-x64-en-us-esd-april2016-pre-activated-team-os-t12461514.html
>>54406126
>it's FUD so it MUST be true
if you want to be taken seriously stop talking nonsense then
>>54402528
>Windows 10
>Was using my PC at 3AM
>PC decides to start windows update WITHOUT EVEN PROMPTING ME TO SAVE WHAT I WAS DOING
>Update takes literally 30 minutes on an SSD
>Finally done
>GRUB: Unknown filesystem
>Grub rescue >
>>54406149
>it's FUD when you are cautious and skeptical
>because being cautious and skeptical are traits of stupid people, while intelligent people trust everything and hold naivety as a positive trait!
If you want to be taken seriously, stop being stupid. It's easy really.
>>54406174
cautious and skeptical does not mean believing any random bullshit
>>54406184
Believing any random bullshit does mean believing in Microsoft though. So i don't know where you are going with your stupidity.
Trying to convince people to pull down their guard because you spouted any random bullshit like FUD, is either an agenda, or the words of a retard.
I'd say you are the latter.
>>54406202
right, okay.
But I'm pretty sure Microsoft is not planning to "rape your wife" or make you a cuck or all that, so I don't see where you're going aside from FUD
>>54401914
>>54402117
>you're missing out on all thel atest botnet tracking/data harvesting feature goy! 'upgrade' now!
>>54406242
Given how Win10 operates, and how storing and tracking other people's pictures, of even labeling and modifying them without their consent, is now considered rape;
Microsoft is already doing rape as we speak.
>>54406251
>if I say it, it MUST be true !!!
>>54406273
you've got your companies all fucked up.
Also you don't have to use onedrive
>>54401333
No need for an av. An adblocker and a properly functional brain is enough.
>>54401297
>congrats you're retarded :)
Says the retard.
Turning off updates makes it harder for NSA to install telemetry. And no,I don't have anything to hide from them,but I don't want NSA look through my personal files. That would be like raping a kid.
>>54402023
LOL, are you serious? You're using Windows for crying out loud, forget about security.
>>54406293
>you've got your companies all fucked up.
Kek. You got your news all wrong living-under-a-rock sonny. The fapenning ended up being a case of social engineering and phishing.
And no, even in the event, both Apple and Microsoft are both bad. So there is no mistaken company, and there is no mistake in an already known feature of Win 10 tracing user pictures.
You can stop being mentally retarded.
>Also you don't have to use onedrive
You also don't have to accept Microsoft info sharing for browser history and such at install, except when the random Win 10 updates enable that again without any notification and without user consent. Go kill yourself, and i mean this unironically. Your kids deserve better than to inherit your genes.
>>54401775
Nice try Stallman,but fuck you,nobody buys your shit story anymore.
>>54406335
>forget security
what is antivirus
>>54404067
I'm pretty confident that a 10% share on desktops/laptops would be enough for companies to start releasing Linux versions of their stuff.
And even though I hate all the cloud and web app shit, it makes Linux distros which are not designed for autists much more usable for plebs.
>>54406341
not my fault you don't know how to manage your computer...
and what did MS have to do with an iCloud breach? Again, more misdirected fud from someone who has an agenda for something
>>54402749
>2008 R2
>not superior 2012 R2 that can be activated with Daz
>>54406341
it's almost as if, if you don't want people to see your picture, maybe don't post it online???
>>54406092
how about the hw specific updates? how about the updates which are deprecated for some users but not others? windows update client updates and similar updates that some people think are bloat?
it would be extremely hard to cater them to every autist/system needs. you'd probably end up installing more bloat/useless updates then just using ms update client
and at the end of the day hardly anyone would download the ISO because "it's not genuine"
>>54406371
>not my fault Microsoft does thing in the background that it shouldn't
I agree.
>and what did MS have to do with an iCloud breach?
There was no iCloud breach. There was a bunch of dumb renowned people getting socially engineered into giving up their passwords though.
Seems like you are adamant on being uninformed and stupid. Is this some fud going on on your part?
>>54406277
>if I ignore it, it MUST be false!!
>>54401297
>updates turned off
>congrats you're retarded :)
turning updates off on win 7 is NEEDED for pirated windows
Now you will get Windows 10 nags right after Windows 8 installation before you even get access to your desktop.
>>54406277
memeing are we? well 2 can play at that game
>if I disagree it must be false!
>>54406387
>not superior 2012 R2 that can be activated with Daz
Wait,can Daz activate 2012 R2?
>>54406407
right, but fappening was iCloud stuff, nothing to do with MS, and still, just don't put private pictures on the internet.
And it's pretty basic knowledge to recheck settings after a major update. So many little things can go wrong that it's likely just a bug that caused some people to have their settings reverted because it worked on my machine.
>>54406423
And what ever you select, it will still nag of Windows 10 on Windows updates.
>>54406423
>Now you will get Windows 10 nags right after Windows 8 installation before you even get access to your desktop.
Fucking hell,just unplug the Ethernet cable.
>>54406437
it's only free until July anon
>>54406435
>right, but fappening was iCloud stuff, nothing to do with MS
You are the one who brought up "wrong company".
Now you are too stupid to realize your mistake.
That's your issue son, not mine.
As far as your opinion on whether someone should upload and what they should upload,
it's just that, an opinion. A company tracing user images is higher on the bullshit tree than users uploading private pics online.
>>54406435
>And it's pretty basic knowledge to recheck settings after a major update.
>needing to recheck settings after updating
No thanks. I'll stick to a better software developer, or not having those updates at all since i get nothing from them and Windows is disconnected from the Internet.
>>54401339
If you sit behind NAT which most of us do and don't use designed to be broken MS software like IE, you're fine without updates.
Worked for me for 12 years I've been online, will continue working as long as I want it to.
>>54406423
>>54406437
>would you like to upgrade right now or a bit later?
>no, fuck off
>cool, we'll just download it anyway so you can install it later
jesus christ
>>54406470
what are you talking about wrong company? the fappening was an icloud breach
>>54406446
>Implying that isn't just to make it seem like there is a need to hurry so that people upgrade quickly, so they can present their "WOOOOW, Over 90000% of people already upgraded to the newest windows ever, holy shit!" in order to compete with OS X and IOS.
They will make it free forever. They want to push UWP and Edge.
>>54406493
>Designed to be broken IE
What are you going to use instead? FIrefox, Chrome? don't make me laugh lol
>>54406501
The fappening was phishing and social engineering, not an iCloud breach. It has been proven a few months ago, and the guy responsible for it admitted it after getting arrested.
As far as wrong company, refer to
>>54406293
You can stop being an idiot now, and start informing yourself instead of making dank replies that are deprecated, all puns intended.
>>54406495
if you don't want the update to be taking space, just upgrade and get it over with
>>54406501
it's not a fucking breach if people willingly give away their passwords you fuckwit
>>54402051
loonix as a desktop OS is no good if you do anything else than rice your desktop. where's autocad+inventor support for linux?
>>54406520
>The fappening was phishing and social engineering, not an iCloud breach
well then why bring it up to begin with as a slam against MS?
>>54406531
it is still a breach of a sort, but again, the goalposts have been moved
Pirated Windows 7 at 2010 and haven't updated since
Had no problems so far although I'm having a much better experience with Debian
literally download Win7 Enterprise and you'll never hear about W10 again
you'll still have to deal with tracking tho
>>54406541
>well then why bring it up to begin with as a slam against MS?
You are the one who brought it up with the wrong company thing implying it.
Do you seriously think people can't backtrack replies or are you really this stupid?
>>54406541
>it is still a breach of a sort
Yeah, just like getting a password out of someone and using it without consent is "hacking into their account".
Your arguments are as stupid as you are.
>>54406573
what no I didn't. if any company is known for id'ing photos it's facebook silly
>>54406566
>you'll still have to deal with tracking tho
Select the "Don't turn updates on" (red shield) option at install and you won't have to deal with that either. I know this sounds risky but there's no tracking this way.
>>54406596
there's no tracking either way
>>54406590
>if any company is known for id'ing photos it's facebook silly
Facebook is also known for saving reply drafts before replies are submitted, but Microsoft is known for keylogging now too.
Though at least Facebook doesn't snoop your browsing history on Desktop.
Microsoft is now equally known for id-ing pics.
>>54406608
>there's no tracking either way
MS installs telemetry updates,so there is.
>>54406628
I bet you throw rocks at your own shadow too...
How is sending non-identifying performance and hardware information about your computer in any way tracking?
>>54406626
>saving reply drafts before replies are submitted
okay? You honestly consider this an issue?
>keylogging
The only key logger is used for improving their dictionary and can easily be turned off
>>54401268
No, I'm very comfy on Windows Vista
>>54406661
>okay? You honestly consider this an issue?
You are saying that saving the changes users make to their reply fields as they are typing, before sending them, even though the users may not send them at all for good and private reasons, is not an issue?
Sure. For ad companies, saving user drafts which reveal how users think or how their minds sway are a diamond mine and not just a gold mine anymore.
For those users though. i want to see you tell them it's not an issue so i can enjoy seeing you get lynched by the public.
>>54406661
>The only key logger is used for improving their dictionary and can easily be turned off
A company that has changed its revenue system from OS sell pricing, to ad firm contract revenue (swiping product sales with a service revenue),
has all the reasons to get all the information on the users possible, including keylogging all of their shit (especially keylogging the work of any programmers retarded enough to work on Windows).
Same as with Facebook.
The word I would use to describe Microsoft right now would be ''pathetic''.
All of this shit they're trying to do, it's like a 5 year old.
>start sabotaging your old product that everyone likes so they'll use your new shitty product
>durr I dunno why this is happening better switch to 10, eh?
>>54406717
>A company that has changed its revenue system from OS sell pricing, to ad firm contract revenue (swiping product sales with a service revenue),has all the reasons to get all the information on the users possible
except for their privacy policy which they are legally bound to uphold.
It's not that you're suspicions aren't unlikely, but you gotta stop taking them as fact
>tfw M$ is fucking with w7 users trying to get them to "upgrade" to 10.
This just shows how much they really care about their customers.
In case if i happen to need windows for something i just install my legit win7 ultimate and use that.
