Retro tech thread
Old one died, let's see what you've all got.
Unfortunately, cannot connect the PLUS/4 due to a lack of having a monitor.
2 metal things at the top are Sears 9 transistor walkie talkies. Was really fun walking out in public with a 4ft antenna looking like a total autist.
>>54398793
I should mention the walkie talkies work great with zero battery damage whatsoever. Produced in 1966.
Also have an old Toshiba t3100. Boots just fine. It's not here though. Was really scared when I first turned it on because I forgot what old dust smells like.
Yeah I love these threads, how about my retro headfoams?
Pretty comfy desu.
>>54398877
Pretty nice. I bet the only reason they've been around for so damn long is because they're made out of metal. Had so many plastic headphones break on me.
>>54398921
I have others too, even some quadraphonics.
Hello everybody...
>>54398934
How do these compare to newer headphones? I have some of these and they sound surprisingly good still.
I havet a PDP 8e with OS/8
>>54399001
>How do these compare to newer headphones?
Let's see:
>bigger drivers
>thicker cables with real woven fabric covers over the rubber
>multi-way adjustments that actually stay adjusted
>built to allow servicing instead of being glued together
I will always go vintage over modern for stuff like headphones. There has been literally no advancement whatsoever beyond rare earth drivers, which can easily be installed in older phones if you wish.
>>54399022
Oh I forgot:
>real leather instead of pleather
>real metal headband covered with real leather
It's not really "retro", but I have an iBook g3 that has both OS9.2.2 and osx 10.1 on it. I also have an IBM 5150, but that's not really in the best condition right now, since I don't have the boot floppy or a working xt compatible keyboard.
>>54399065
Forgot pic.
>>54399065
People gave no shits when I posted this thing last thread. I'm going to put a 120gb in it and clone 10.4/9.22 onto it off my g4 tower.
I went to a video game """museum""" with my friend the other day and they had a couple of Atari 800's my Dad had when I was a kid. They had a pretty neat personal computer section with Commodores, TRS-80, Some TI computer, an Amiga, Apple II, and an Adam? I wanna say there were some Sharps as well, but they were behind glass. They had console development boxes as well behind glass. The Dreamcast one looked like a mini PC. I don't know that it would be worth driving any more than a few hours to see, but here's a link if anyone in the north Texas area is interested.
http://nvmusa.org/
I found this the other day
>>54399113
Somebody does something similar every year at E3, down in Kentia Hall.
>>54398793
The Plus/4 was my first computer that I bought with my own money Anon. I spent a couple grand on it for accessories and software and it got me through college in the early 90's/
Good little piece of hardware if you were willing to put in the time to learn it's quirks.
>>54399093
All I saw were the manuals, I really want an aluminum G4 or late-model TiBook to dual boot 10.2/10.3 and OS 9 on. I like my flagship Sawtooth but a laptop form factor is so much more convenient.
>>54399122
I-it's a tv?
Or TV audio only?
>>54399122
Holy shit nvm it's a beta deck.
>>54398793
>>54399247
yeah
>>54399139
This will supposedly be open year round. DESU the most interesting stuff to me was behind glass. I can sort of understand why as the 8 key on that Atari 800 was bent and some of the upright arcade games were out of order. I wondered to myself what sort of problems they have with theft as SMS NES SNES MD PCEngine Dreamcast and PS1 carts and disks weren't really secure. They sure as shit didn't leave a NEOGEO AES unattended. The early PC systems had carts tapes and floppies kinda laying around too. All of the freerange games were no doubt very popular and abundant therefore cheap to replace.
>>54399229
There was a 1ghz that went for $32 last week. I got this for $10 ($30 shipping). Also, i need a better photo of my gigabit tower. Dual 450 is beast, but this 550mhz powerbook feels way faster.
>>54399302
that's because the dual 450 is sharing the CPU bus and doesn't make much of a difference in everyday tasks, sort of like how the Pentium D's worked before the bus was refined in the Core 2 era stuff.
if and when I get a CPU upgrade card for my Cube, it's going to be a single-core for this reason. there is just not enough juice in the bus to satisfy more than one CPU, much less more than one at 1+GHz.
>>54399302
I think really the only application that could take advantage of SMP in OS 9 was Photoshop and some other professional software, still want a dual 500 though. Mystics are some good shit.
>but this 550mhz powerbook feels way faster.
It's amazing what on-die L2 can do for you. I think the RAM is probably faster too, I can't remember if they used PC-100 or not.
>>54399353
Interesting way to look at it, one day if I ever get my hands on a DP model I'll have to compare it to my single 500.
>>54399353
It was way faster than my 800mhz eMac (rip).
>cube
Lucky fuck. Ive always wanted one but i dont even want to look up what a decent one goes for because its probably as ridiculously expensive as the clamshells are.
>>54399389
Yeah, the PB takes 133 vs the G4's 100.
>>54399353
If you're running OS X you should get the dual-core variant. It will use it.
For Mac OS 9 forget it, single core is fine.
>>54399203
OP here
I like that it has a built in monitor, that's one of the reasons I got it. I'll have to get used to using the directional pad for arrow keys though -- not looking too forward to that.
>>54399252
Very nice.
>>54399093
I recognize this computer, you posted it elsewhere.
>>54399432
and for those that don't know, I'm talking about a monitor for examining memory and writing assembly, not a physical display.
>>54399414
>tfw there was a full Cube setup at the recycler forever ago that I never asked about
I regret it so hard, probably could have gotten it for under $50 too.
This is what I will use to write the note.
>>54399462
>the note
Dare I ask anon?
>went to my dad's ancient office's storage floor hoping to find old tech
>tfw it just had old furniture as far as I could see
They do have an old typewriter, though, don't know the model.
I have OLPC, it's pretty OK actually. Keyboard's too small though.
>>54399389
When the bus was refined more in later motherboard revisions, and DDR RAM was added into the equation, especially late into the G4's models (MDD) the difference was definitely noticeable. but with PC100/PC133? good luck.
the difference was even more noticeable when they popped DDR2 in the HR Powerbook G4s, just for a single-core CPU, it brought the performance almost up to the base single-core G5 levels. those are fun since there's known hardware overclocks that can be done to the board to up the CPU speed to 1.8 or 1.9GHz (and if you're lucky, 2GHz) with no noticeable change in thermal output, to an extent, and bring it even closer to G5 performance on a 32-bit level.
I had the desire once to do this to mine, but dropping in a faster hard drive is so much easier to accomplish some bottleneck relief in a 10 year-old laptop sometimes.
>>54399476
It may be more of a manifesto by then, idk.
My Sony Sports 11 is retro as fuck, and my Icom IC-R3 is about there too. Video scanner, one of the only ones ever made.
>>54399511
Of?
>>54399022
>There has been literally no advancement whatsoever beyond rare earth drivers, which can easily be installed in older phones if you wish.
Where can you get these drivers?
>>54399575
Declarations of friendship and happiness towards entities I love. :3
>>54399593
mouser.com, you might need to build a mount out of sheet brass or something but usually not.
>>54399417
thermal issues too, even with a fan installed, is the other problem.
>>54399414
I used to have one way back when my family owned a multi-million dollar printing company. pic related, pics of some of the computers in the digital pre-press area. there was also an eMac.
when it went under in the early-00s recession, I got the cube and used it until 2005 when the GeForce 2 MX? crapped out. I have the hard drive someplace, I'm going to see if it's still bootable and swap it into the cube I have now.
I blame my interactions at that place the reason I got interested in computers in general, and vintage ones moreso, having to fix all the shitty win95 internet access boxes since my dad was Mr. Strict Boss and mandated they be in each office instead of letting the workstations have access to a web browser, which was disabled through group policies and the like. yay Windows 2000.
>>54399707
>Quality Control is the KEY to Success!
here, also some servers by some of the more expensive hardware (platesetter, I think). I'm in posession of one of these, they were outfitted with dual PIII Xeon 933s with 1GB of RAM in each. I sort of want to mod a newer machine into the case, but it's an intel 5000 or 6000 series server, so some things are going to be weird.
Two of them lived on to become webservers for a porn site run by my uncle's neighbor. I got both with no drives, scrapped the worse off of the two and kept any of the good parts.
>>54399707
What's that blurred out shit?
>>54399093
dat bezel man. so thin, not even the new macbooks have bezels that thin.
>>54399861
weeb stuff he is ashamed of owning
>>54399861
>>54399879
anything identifiable about the company, even if it's long gone, there are some things I like to keep private.
here's a picture of some Agfa machine in the back room of the prepress area. it was either this one that ran that PolaProof or the other one the picture was taken behind which was newer than used a Linux box to control, because that's just how it was done.
old copy of redhat too, if you can believe it.
>>54399497
I remember wanting the shit out of one of those when they started getting publicity, tiny laptops were so expensive and the idea of something I could travel with so cheaply was just neat.
>>54399507
SDRAM really fucks those old boxes over. I daily drove a flagship first-generation iMac G4 at work for most of last summer and it was just unnecessarily slow, meanwhile a P4 box with RDRAM from the same era will just fly, at least as far as what you'd expect from nearly fifteen year old hardware.
>>54399796
>I'm in posession of one of these, they were outfitted with dual PIII Xeon 933s with 1GB of RAM in each. I sort of want to mod a newer machine into the case, but it's an intel 5000 or 6000 series server, so some things are going to be weird.
Your mods are probably some of the less triggering ones I've seen, but I'd keep that shit as-is. In the decade or so since I started collecting old gear and the thousands of systems I've perused over, I've maybe only seen two or three slotted Xeon systems.
I'd fit it with a pair of 900 MHz Cascades-2M chips if I could though, that thing would make a bitchin' 2K (or something like SCO OpenServer or Solaris) terminal server.
>>54399122
nice find
>>54399934
I'm in posession of a first-gen P4 box with a 1.8GHz S423 chip and 2GB of RDRAM, so I understand completely.
it certainly would make for a decent terminal server indeed, but with no purpose. it's a power sucker all the same, but I see what you're talking about. first thing's first would be to replace all the fans though, they're all shot, then fix the CMOS battery issue, and I'd have to find caddies and drives for the thing.
>>54399934
>I remember wanting the shit out of one of those when they started getting publicity, tiny laptops were so expensive and the idea of something I could travel with so cheaply was just neat.
Yeah, it's IP45 rated so that's nice, you could leave it out in the rain and it'd work fine as long as you had the port covers / "wifi ears" in place.
It has plenty of ram unlike the 1.0 version yet takes all the same wacky accessories and has the ability to charge both NiCad and Li-Ion batteries, as well as running (and charging!) off 12v power. It's my actual SHTF EOTWAWKI laptop. Number crunching is a bit lame but I have the Pi for that now, together they are an amazing small low-power SHTF computing backup solution.
I'm a ham.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY
Guess what they are.
>>54399093
This is way better, the original MacBook.
I still wonder if this works. I have to find the case sides and the front bezel and get it running again. this thing was fun to play with, especially with dual 750s and 2GB of RAM to flop around with on Debian.
>>54400149
The bottom one is a Siamese cat
>>54400316
Only 50% Siamese.
>>54400149
neo geo boards
entirely random fucking guess
>>54400170
dumb tripfag cancer
>>54400170
That fucker has a USB port? 1.1?
>>54400556
the card it had was 1.1, later upgraded it to 2.0 when parts allowed for it.
>>54400170
>actual rust
>still chugging away
I love older hardware, that shit is already worth its weight in cheese.
>>54400002
Yeah, with all those drives and fans it would probably suck up a little more than you'd like. I'd think an Intel box would be generic enough you could find caddies for it though.
I'm planning to put one of my sausage boxes to work eventually as an NT/2K file server since they natively support AFP, no more dealing with ass-backwards OS 9 file serving or shitty flash drives.
As far as terminal servers go, it seems like a pretty attractive option for getting a system on the JS web without going full sacrilege on the OS choice.
>>54400149
Amiga 500 mainboard and an OEM 386SX board, the really deep green coloring makes me want to say it's an IBM board.
>>54400556
Shit, USB started appearing on OEM systems as early as the late Pentium era.
>>54400610
Almost, but not a 386SX but a 486SX and not IBM but Olivetti.
>>54398921
they're not metal, sadly (well, the headband is). The cups are just nylon with an aluminum layer plated on.
>>54398934
Toshibaaaaaa... HR40 or HR40x?
I collect vintage cans, here are the first 100 or so...
>>54399001
All quads sound awful. It was the era's audiophoolery meme that was total bull. Sorry.
>>54400722
The fuck, I wanted to guess that but it looks way too small, QFP 486 chips always look so big. Olivetti makes sense for the manufacturer though, at least they both made Microchannel systems.
>>54400772
Don't knock them till you try them. They still sound pretty good. Clear, not muddy like you would get from a Logitech z623. It doesn't have a 200W sub, sure, but it's clear, which is what you want when you don't listen to crap.
>>54400818
>Don't knock them till you try them
I collect them. I own about 500 different models made between 1965 and 1979.
>>54400840
(and I specialize in the quads. They have no surround localization whatsoever, and they all sound worse than stereo due to comb filtering.)
>>54400840
I thought you were talking about the 2.1 I posted, not the other convo. Drunk posting, my bad.
>>54400877
No worries. A lot of those unpretentious looking 2.1s do in fact sound really good.
>>54398793
I hope I'm not the only one who sees a face here.
>>54400581
not even that bad. there was one fo these that was run for years in a shipyard. it collected so much dust and moisture that mushrooms started growing between the hard drives.
the entire system board is devoid of electrolytic caps save for a few coming off by the PSU leads I'd have to assume are some sort of decoupling or just basic filtering for a specific rail.
>>54401096
dumb tripfag cancer
>>54398793
Used to have a plus/4 (found in a thrift.) Unfortunately I couldn't do anything with it. Had no software for it, and being incompatible with the C64 and such, there were no magazine programs I could type in.
>>54401096
That sounds absolutely cozy.
All I've got is this rusted to shit UE1, I wonder how it got that way, seems to have been just part of some leased Cisco lab setup or even from Cisco itself, can't imagine even in storage how it could have gotten so fucked up.
>>54401368
Katrina.
I think we need to do change a thing for a bit
> post your retro shit
>try to open 4chan page with that shit
>>54401402
you act like that's a hard thing to do
>>54401420
>that AlphaServer
here I thought you were just some dumb desktop thread faggot
is there much you can do with Tru64 these days? it doesn't seem like it would have as much hobbyist support as Solaris or IRIX.
>>54401442
This ain't mine, I just thought it was both comfy and retro
>>54401456
fair enough family
I'll find an answer to my autistic question some day ;_;
>>54401420
...dad?
>>54398793
Op that PLUS/4 has an RF out port on the side, just hook it up to the yellow input jack on an old TV and you're in business.
>>54401456
dumb tripfag cancer
>>54401569
>>54401402
Huh, apparently i cant just connect my powerbook to my g4 tower and have it just werk (after turning on internet sharing) like i can on my linux box.
>>54401600
that fucked aspect ratio is triggering me
>>54398989
my nigga
>>54401604
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/LInux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>54401748
I'm terribly sorry for interjecting another moment, but what I just told you is GNU/Linux is, in fact, just Linux, or as I've just now taken to calling it, Just.Linux. Linux apparently does happen to be a whole operating system unto itself and comprises a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Most computer users who run the entire Linux system every day already realize it. Through a peculiar turn of events, I was misled into calling the system "GNU/Linux", and until now, I was unaware that it is basically the Linux system, developed by the Linux project.
There really isn't a GNU/Linux, and I really wasn't using it; it is an extraneous misrepresentation of the system that's being used. Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities, and other vital system components. The kernel is already an integral part of the Linux operating system, never confined useless by itself; it functions coherently within the context of the complete Linux operating system. Linux is never used in combination with GNU accessories: the whole system is basically Linux without any GNU added, or Just.Linux. All the so-called "GNU/Linux" distributions are really distributions of Linux.
>>54401728
holy shit, that's a cool collection.
>>54401728
>tfw I'll never get my Kaypro II working
>>54399462
You shoved a keyboard into a printer?
>>54400755
Wow, what pair would you take with you on a deserted island?
The Koss are rugged as heck...
>>54401842
:(
>>54402090
Kosses don't hold up unfortunately. Lots of space age materieals that only lasted as long as the space age.
Hmmm... desert island would be any of the old Fostexes.
>>54399093
I own one of these, my main computer for 7 years, 2001-2008.
Still works.
daily dumpster dive circlejerk
>Old one died
Just like you guys did in the 80s along with your garbage
>Was fun walking out in public looking like a total autist
You said it, not me
>Hey grandpa, what do you do with this thing?
>Well it hasn't really turned on for about 30 years so I just keep taking pictures of it and putting them online by the way the internet is bad except for us oldfags jerking off on psuedo 80s BBSes
>Bye grandpa!
>>>/vr/
>>54398793
Get on my level
>>54403569
nice Vectra
>>54403686
>amstrad
eugh
cool Archimedes though, wish you could find those stateside
>>54403569
do you even try anymore
or do you just have a text file full of copypastas and a cron job that fires them off every time a filter gets triggered
>>54399462
My office still has five of these, one of which is used monthly for some kind of report that is legally required to be physically typed for some reason.
Government IT is weird.
>>54401393
Nah, it came from the bay area evidenced by the moving label on it.
>>54403686
Nice!
Ten internets to the first one to recognize everything in this picture
>>54405806
Computers
>>54405806
Do you realize that most of them have the model number written big on top of them?
>>54406979
Yeah, that's what I realized after posting.
>>54404179
Typewriters are great for filling out forms. Handwriting is a bitch and can be hard to read. Getting everything to line up in a printer is close to impossible.
I use my Correcting Selectric II for forms sometimes. That and typing on index cards, which is also hard with a printer.
>>54399252
I want one of these so bad but they're so hard to find state side
My dinoware.
Fujitsu Stylistic LT C-500
I'm at work currently but when I get home I'll post the 286 box my land Lord gave to me from his shed. Shits rusted over and the hard drive is dead yet it still powers on.
>>54408794
I'd love to own a typewriter if it didn't make me look like a total hipster. I remember using one specifically when my dad took me along with him while he did odd jobs repairing computers in the local area
>>54410535
Nothing wrong with having a typewriter. You're only a hipster if you use it in starbucks.
>>54410673
I have one, I had many, once I turned one into a keyboard wiring contracts to the letters with a USB keyboard controller.
>>54401091
Nice anon, I didn't notice either when I posted it.
>>54401510
Really? Is that what the H/L switch is for too?
>>54401728
That's where I want to be with my collection anon. Need a job though.
>>54410535
> it didn't make me look like a total hipster
who gives a shit, if you aren't actually a hipster then why do you need to worry about what some self-obsessed virgins on the internet think about some trivial piece of your life
hipsters do what they do because it's trendy, are you doing it to be trendy or are you actually interested in the technology or its utility, or even simply its appearance and experience?
>>54411127
don't think the RF out on a +4 goes into standard composite, just check before you accidentally fuck something up
>>54411375
Did some research, from the manual:
>The RF cable:
>This connects the TV switchbox to the RF output jack on the left side of the Plus/4. You don't need this cable to connect your Plus/4 to a monitor.
>The High/Low Switch:
>This switch controls which channel is used for Plus/4 video output. Set the H/L switch to L for output on channel 3. Set the H/L switch to H for video on channel 4.
It looks like the VIDEO port is used only for monitors, I was unaware. Since this works on 3/4, I should be good right?
>>54398793
>Retro tech thread
Got it from a jap girl 2 years ago.
>>54412221
I had that very GPU, it was amazing when it came out.
I used to play Tribes with it, shazbot.
>>54411525
The video port is probably what you'd want for a composite connection.
Otherwise, look around for an adapter that will let you interface it to a TV antenna input.
>>54412248
>it was amazing when it came out.
No doubt.
I got 3 Voodoos: Voodoo 1 (first), Voodoo 2 (my brother) and 3 3500 (upgrade). 1997 --> 1999 was fantastic for PC.
Bought that one because nostalgia's a bitch.
>>54412288
https://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/RF_Jack
Apparently it handles both video _and_ audio, which I was unaware of.
If I spend the trouble of going through that route, I may as well just find something like this:
https://www.8bitclassics.com/Atari-Commodore-TI99-Composite-Audio-Video-Cable.html
I have the material to make my own cable, but I would like to avoid potentially bad wiring, since this is a perfect PLUS/4.
On a side note, do you have any clue what the extra cable is?
>>54412511
https://www.8bitclassics.com/av-cables/Commodore-64-128-16-8-Pin-DIN-S-Video-Cable.html
I may opt for this instead, but the other would work on more equipment.
>>54412453
I found a Voodoo2 in my mom's basement (she'd just moved into a rental) in like 2000, but it didn't have the passthrough cable. Ended up having to shift my monitor to the other output whenever I wanted to play a Glide game like Deus Ex or Streets of Simcity.
>>54412511
Wait, you already have the DIN->composite cable for it? Why are we even talking about RF at this point? Plug that shit in.
>>54412566
No no no. I'm looking to buy one. I was thinking of going the RF route but then decided to say fuck it.
I am a bit disorganized in this I'll admit, I'm a bit hung over.
>>54412453
Image name made me kek.
Here's some retro tech that I use often.
>>54412614
Oh, alright.
Should be able to scrounge one up pretty cheap since the +4 used the same pinout as the 64's video DIN if I remember right, the extra plug in that picture is probably S-video since that's the only standard implemented on mini-DIN I can think of.
>>54412561
>didn't have the passthrough cable.
Same shit here... My younger brother helped my mom some years ago to clean the house. The asshole threw tons of old unused cables inside a box to discharge.
Don't need to tell what happened...
![20151015_005643[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/y2pJfPS.jpg "20151015_005643[1].jpg")
muh stereo
>>54412659
Interesting, thanks Anon. I'll grab the SVideo cable.
Time to look into SD2IEC.
>>54412633
41C? neat.
What modules you got for it?
>>54412986
Games and Electronics I, I'm going to get it turned into a 41-CL soon though. FPGA SOC that turbo-fies the 41 and comes with all the modules in image form. Really neat stuff.
I have a Toshiba Libretto but I'm not really sure what to do with it.
It's not this model, it's the one with a Pentium 75 and 32mb RAM.
Using it for DOS games occurred to me, but I can't think of many I play enough to be worth the nightmare of transferring them on a 16mb CF card. (should really hunt down a 2gb one.)
Even then for portability the mouse-nub thing is pretty much useless for most games. Might make a good joystick substitute in flying games though.
>>54398793
Just picked up this comfy ass case. Should i use it as my main?
>>54415579
Anyone know about these?
>>54409172
I still use my Stylistic 3400 and my Palm Pilot Professional.
>>54415691
hook it to a Pi and have fun.
>>54415653
you could, but make sure the hard drives are adequately cooled and replace all the fuckin fans, with 4-pin PWM ones if possible, noctuas if you can afford premium poop fans.
>>54413755
The libretto clit is pretty lame for any extended use, those things were made for mobile productivity rather than games.
With a re packed battery it would be a pretty nifty autism portable, beats the shit out of an UltraBook if you've got the balls for the keyboard.
>>54415691
Isn't much to know about them really, they're a terminal, and that's what they're good for.
Pretty nice find though, dumb terminals got pretty much destroyed en masse in the '90s and '00s, they're not as common as they used to be, especially in working shape.
>>54413755
http://download.milesburton.com/Libretto/www.fixup.net/tips/l50.htm
>>54415753
>>54415753
Thanks. I'll look into hooking it to a Pi.
>>54415753
>>54415941
dumb tripfag cancer
end yourself
I'm not a collector but do pickup rare vintage tech that I find for dirt cheap
Recently found a Sharp QT-8D calculator in great condition for 3USD.
Does /g/ usually sit on it's vintage tech or do they sell shortly after acquisition?
>>54416070
>he's still at it
>>54416107
it's not worth the effort to me, if I buy something I buy it because I want it, not because I think I'm going to make $20 in profit when somebody finally buys it in a year
>>54416107
>Does /g/ usually sit on it's vintage tech or do they sell shortly after acquisition?
I sit on it. Most of the stuff I'm interested in are 'small' versions of normally bigger things, like Newtons and tiny laptops and things. Partly so I can store it all, haha!
I usually wait until I have a critical mass to sell stuff.
>>54415653
>low-key can of monster which matches the case
kek
>>54416107
I usually go into it thinking I'm going to sell it, then it ends up being too cool to sell and I keep it. Like with the walkie talkies -- I got them for $15 and could easily sell them for $150+ on eBay, but when I tried them out I loved them.
>>54416148
>ecause I want it, not because I think I'm going to make $20 in profit when somebody finally buys it in a year
I spent $3 and can sell it for around $200 based on the going price on shitbay
I wouldn't waste time on reselling garbage
>>54416478
>I got them for $15 and could easily sell them for $150+ on eBay, but when I tried them out I loved them.
That's my general feeling. It's hard to part with nice finds
>>54416478
>tfw it's the only energy drink that doesn't taste like horse balls
>>54416591
shitbay prices aren't really always a good judge of value if you do it locally, but yeah if you put the time into shipping and all that it will work out
it's amazing what retards will pay for destitute Packard bell shitboxes I pass up for $5 all day at the recycler
>>54401696
>aspect ratio
It's called perspective
That's what's ucked up
>>54408794
>getting anything to line up in a printer
Literally what?
>>54420649
Filling out preprinted forms with a printer.
>>54416107
Depends. If I can flip it on eBay for a tidy sum, I probably will. But weighed against considerations like:
Is it really neat? I might keep it around for a bit to admire and research about.
Is it in some fragile or deteriorating state? Like a calculator with heavy leakage or corrosion of battery terminals, LCD going bad, but still of value to someone more into calcs than I am. Better to sell it immediately before things get really bad.
Pic is some stuff sitting nearby.
Cadenzia metronome apparently worth $100-200. I'll probably sell after admiring it for a bit. Maybe take some stock-video footage of it.
HP 41C calculator. Same as shown here: >>54412633 >>54412986 >>54413119
Kind of forgot I have this particular unit. I have another one I intended to sell since there's bad battery leakage, more cleanup and restoration than I care to deal with. Haven't yet because I wanted to sell it with some of its accessories I found over several Goodwill visits.
Ti Programmer Calculator. Its kinda cool though limited in function. Selling it will only net me lunch money, and there doesn't appear to be anything I need to be concerned over (ie, deteriorating LCD.) So I'll probably keep it until one day I decide I have too much shit and need to clear out stuff. Done that before with other calcs.
>>54401413
this screenshot was taken 2 weeks ago
>>54420840
Ohhh, okay. Thats fair
>>54398793
My first computer was a plus 4. I don't know what the fuck commodore were thinking with that thing. I didn't realise how crap it was until much later though. Loved it when I was little.
>>54421055
was it really that long ago? the fuck
it isn't worth the effort to take a new screenshot of the same thing and run it through two applications to convert it from SGI RGB->TIFF->PNG and transfer it to a newer system via ftp for upload, plus X forwarding a browser over 10baseT Ethernet is pretty painful, still need to get something on here natively like netscape or something
>>54400755
My dad used to have a pair of the tan/brown ones dead centre of that pic. Great headphones, built to last.
I know it should be in the watch thread, but it might get more appreciation here since it was one of the first of its kind.
>>54423052
Nice. Are those hard to get nowadays?
>>54423287
The P2 is not an extreme rarity (compared to the P1) but they still command for high prices on ebay. As to why, either because of its look and/or it being a "Bond Watch".
It was the first commercially available digital watch however. The one pictured >>54423052 was originally my Grandfather's. It's also the significantly rarer 14k Gold "Filled" version of the watch, which is pretty cool.
Honestly surprised that I was able to get it working again after all these years.
>>54399930
Is that a drum Scanner? Post dem anal cyl
Powers on, but RAM error and it makes a clicking sound when it's plugged in but not turned on. It booted to Windows a couple weeks ago when I first brought it home.
And the guts. Looks like it's just corrosion on the RAM slots, but no time to mess with it.
>>54424280
Oh hey, I've an AST Power Exec. I forget the model number right now.
It shares a case with the last GRID machines though. I'll find a picture later.
>>54424354
Nifty. I probably won't keep this since the keyboard doesn't feel great. Barely any resistance and then it just bottoms out.
>>54424391
Here's a picture of the model I have (not my own photo, found it on google images.)
Its not retro, if i been using it constantly from the date i bought it. This has been true for several MSX-setups, C64, Amiga 1000 and Sharp X68000 (Expert, forgot@what MHz).
Never owned any potential spying device, in other words camera, thus i present this well preserved setup.
>>54405806
I used an Atari Portfolio in college in the early 90s.
Does this count? Part of my vintage hi-fi shelf
>>54426954
This is the old photo but it look like this.
>>54427005
And som old Power Macs MDD G4 under my table.
Retro tech related I guess
Tray of Voodoo II Bruce chips.
The V2 is a great card for old systems, it's a shame people prics gouge thsm so much
>>54405806
THe first one is an Amstrad cpc464.
My collection of old mobile phones
Wiii wooo
>>54427237
old phones are cool.
it's a shame that as technology develops designs generally become more homogenized.
>>54427052
normal MDD or MDD2003?
>>54427237
>he's got that IBM PDA phone
shit, they showed that at CES back in 1994 in a seperate booth from the Compaq Presaio 425/433, one of which I own.
>>54421576
nekochan has a firefox build, IIRC.
check out the nekoware repo.
>>54420986
>>54413119
>>54412986
>>54412633
1984 here, can I play too?
>>54427662
how about 1976?
>>54427075
NEAT.
>>54427575
The both are normal MDD.
Presario 425 is really nice. I had Presario 486 but I gave it to the socially underprivileged family .
>>54427679
How about my?
Tesla MR610 from year 1988
Sadly the flyback transformer died recently so I need to change that.
>>54427272
Yeah I think the same. If you like it, there is the part two of my collection.
>>54400168
nice carry on, anon.
>>54425233
Nice.
>>54427575
That's pretty nice, what is that screenfetch lookalike? Or is it just modified/reconfigured screenfetch?
>nekochan has a firefox build, IIRC.
Yeah I think they do, apparently it's a real bitch to work with. Unfortunately though nekoware needs 6.5.22 and I'm running 5.3 on this system for a combination of autism and tiny, tiny 545 MB disks
>>54428740
Have a 433 in my closet I need to get back out, they're kind of neat, early compaq consumer hardware had something about them that even though they were a little shitboxy they just felt really well built, kind of like the early HP Pavilion 7000/5000 systems.
How about my headfoams and decks?
>>54431778
Do you have a better photo?
>>54431896
Decks:
Phones:
Toshiba HR-40, Sony TC-153SD (one of the only Dolby systems made entirely out of TTL rather than ICs), Sony TCM-5000EV, Sony WM-D3, JVC KD-1636mkII, Marantz PMD-201.
Biggest pair of headphones I ever saw, 4 channels, larger than aviation sets and shit for the military. Very comfy though, the huge size allows them to surround the ear with almost no pressure.
>>54431956
Wow thats a really nice collection. Im little bit jealous about that Toshiba HR-40. I only have Tesla ARF 310 and Akai ASE-24.
About a tape deck i have Pioneer CT-F600 from Blue Series (here is the photo : >54427005 )
>>54425233
>Sharp X68000
>>54432219
Thanks, I have a bunch of nicer vintage gear.
I believe that quality in general for consumer products began to suffer terribly in the mid- to late-1990s and prefer older stuff, especially the high-end gear which is available at (usually) very reasonable prices. It's just better.
>>54400876
You can use them for any old 4 channel uses anon. The comb filter's in the receiver, not the phones.
Quad phones have excellent sound quality and are useful with any 4 channel program material.
>>54424280
>>54424309
>386SX
You tried getting an old copy of Linux or NetBSD running or something? I could do more with either of those than Windows prob.
>>54424391
How much would you be willing to part with it for?
>>54425233
Dang, that thing would get some serious looks back in the day.
>>54427075
People seriously want these already? How much are they asking for?
>>54427237
>>54428874
That's pretty cool anon -- you can get quite a few of those for pretty cheap. Did you take the batteries out to prevent corrosion?
>>54432397
>You can use them for any old 4 channel uses anon. The comb filter's in the receiver, not the phones.
Um, no. Two offset sound sources produces lobing and frequency nulls/peaks via comb filtering.
> Quad phones have excellent sound quality
Hell of an alternate universe you live in.
>>54432814
[I should pull out that 1976 Popular Science where they tested a bunch of quad phones and the verdict was 'They're snake oil, none of them work even a little bit and they all sound hollow.']
>>54432814
>>54432843
That said, we should totally post more quad cans.
"What audiophoolery looked like in the 1970s"
>>54432904
>>54432814
You are high anon.
>>54432843
Quadraphonic as a format sucked, but there is nothing inherently bad with 4 channel cans and the comb filter IS NOT IN THE PHONES.
Jeez.
>>54432933
Perfect rebuttal. I retract my 30 years of professional experience.
>>54432963
>there is nothing inherently bad with 4 channel cans
OK fine. It just happened that every one of them sucked in practice.
>the comb filter IS NOT IN THE PHONES.
um, comb filtering simply happens. It's a result of two drivers being offset different distances (and different directions) from the ear canals.
>>54432925
>>54432986
Or in the case of this thing, three on each side.
>>54432986
This is completely theoretical, and would depend largely on the can design and angle of the drivers.
The HA-40 are great cans, this is widely known.
You fell for a meme.
>>54433159
>This is completely theoretical
Yeah theoretical like gravity. Every time I pull up both legs, I fall down. Every time I put on quad cans, the comb filtering makes them sound like ass.
> and would depend largely on the can design and angle of the drivers.
You have to work hard to prevent the effect in multi-driver headphones. Read up on the pains AKG went through with the K240 and K260 parabolic.
>The HA-40 are great cans, this is widely known.
HR-40, not HA. I own both the HR-40 and later HR-40X. Both very meh, even by 70's standards. Pretty though.
>>54433228
Pic related. Merging a /g/ meme and a /diy/ meme.
>>54433228
I suppose if you're deaf from all your hip meme music they all sound the same to you anon.
AKA "Super-bass."
I need more of these.
>>54433228
>by 70's standards
Le "sound was much worse in those days" meme.
>>54433247
>AKA "Super-bass."
The best joke is even with cups that big, they have no bass at all.
>>54433244
Why is kleanstrip a /diy/ meme?
I haven't seen it posted there.
>>54433266
>Le "sound was much worse in those days" meme.
HRTF was a new concept in the 1970s. Most 70s cans sound terrible. There are some that can still keep up.
Have you ever put on a pair of Pro4/AAs? That was the studio standard. They're.... not good.
>>54433270
>no bass at all
I knew it, you are deaf.
Bass is fantastic in the Toshiba cans.
>>54433289
Kleanstrip brand acetone.
>>54433290
>not good
They're in fact renowned to be quite excellent, as are the AAAs.
>what is psychoacoustics
Cue the spex.
>>54433307
>Bass is fantastic in the Toshiba cans.
Oh wait, you're the guy who prefers cassette tape over digital.
>>54433321
>They're in fact renowned to be quite excellent, as are the AAAs.
Only if you're judging them by the standard of 'what headphones sound most like the Pro4AA'. They definitely win that contest.
>>54405806
Toshiba Satellite in the top middle. Had one of my own that ran Win 3.11. Good times <3
>>54433365
>believe me guys, I'm a pro with 30 years experience
>says opposite of what everybody else is saying
truly a wizard
>>54433410
You're the only one claiming otherwise.
Oh, found it. Pop Sci August '74, not 76:
https://books.google.com/books?id=uRAgliO29ZwC&lpg=PA90&ots=MFbSW-Fj6Z&dq=popular%20science%20quadraphonic%20headphones&pg=PA90#v=onepage&q&f=false
"Quad phones don't work"
>>54432806
Yeah, you can see lot of cheap models on those photos but I have some rare/unique models too.
For instance a Sony Ericsson SO903i for japanese market, Sony Ericsson P800 (like never used, with box and all documents), SE S600i (pretty unique model in my country), Nokia 7373, the prototype of SE S302, the last Ericsson T68 and first Sony Ericsson T68 (never used in box), Siemens CL50, Sony CMD-Z1 and Z5, the first Nokia Communicator 9000 with box, manuals and documents, the prototype of Nokia N-Gage, the 8GB version of Nokia N91, Sagem PocketPC WA 3050, the first phone with touche screen IBM Simon, Motorola Accompli 008 or Ericsson R380s, Nokia 5510, Nokia 3650, the smallest mobile phone in the world Ericsson T66, Bang & Olufsen BeoCom 9600, Nokia 6108 for chinese market, Ericsson MC16 etc.
No, I dont take bateries out but I put piece of paper (or duct tape) between a contacts of battery and contacts of phone to prevent absolute discharge. Time to time I charge some of them and then I put them back to shelf or box.
>>54433437
And, FTR, I own all the models used in that review except the David Clark 4C-A. If you know where to find a pair, let me know.
>>54412561
>found a Voodoo2
Another Voodoo2 report in.
>>54432806
>I could do more with either of those than Windows prob.
That shit will barely run X, let alone anything useful on top of it. *nix is utterly useless on non-networked hardware of that vintage compared to the massive software base offered by DOS or 3.x
>>54399122
I miss electronics that looked like that in the 70s and 80s. Everything now looks like it's trying to be a G-Shock.
>>54432806
I got the chips for $20 in 2011. The guy had a vaccum sealed bag on the forum I go on, so I just got a tray.
As for the Voodoo IIs, people put them on eBay for like 40-50 dollars (the modt I've seen is 200) which is wayyy too much for a really commin video card. If you're going to buy one, buy privately from someone.
The most I've seen a 3Dfx card go for was about 3000 for a voodoo 5 6000, but the Rampage (10 are known to exist in working condition) go for upwards of 5000. If they had released the rampage, nVidia wouldn't exist anymore, it was as fast as a GeForce 3 in 2000.
>>54433437
One obscure reference which is mainly theoretical...
OK anon.
>>54433458
>https://books.google.com/books?id=uRAgliO29ZwC&lpg=PA90&ots=MFbSW-Fj6Z&dq=popular%20science%20quadraphonic%20headphones&pg=PA90#v=onepage&q&f=false
But you're deaf so why is this important?
Muh super-bass!
>>54412221
They're actually pretty difficult to come by, especially non-English Models.
>>54412453
I was really lucky I got a pass through cable with my V2. Dont have it up and running because drivers and 98 don't agree..
>>54434548
>One obscure reference which is mainly theoretical...
Popular Science magazine is obscure?
An review with people listening to all the actual headphones in person is 'theoretical'? I think you have both of those definitions backwards.
>>54432806
Not sure how much, I'd like to get it working again and screw around with it before the novelty wears off. Give me an email and we can talk.
>>54434310
Gotta say I agree. I wish I could find one of the old German Rosita console stereos on this side of the pond...
>>54412561
>Streets of sim city
>the fucking nostalgia
good times
>>54434675
You were pretending to have some measured data about 'comb filters' (LOL) and so on, this article's just a subjective listening test.
Pretty sad desu.
>>54435228
>You were pretending to have some measured data about 'comb filters' (LOL) and so on, this article's just a subjective listening test.
Uh, no, I said having multiple drivers leads to comb filtering, which it does, which is obvious from rudimentary physics, and the article even says so.
I also said 'quad headphones are shit, and don't work', which the article also says (despite the fact that they're shitting on their own advertising revenue by saying so).
Do you need me to highlight it?
>>54435335
>leads to comb filtering, which it does
This isn't true though, first it wouldn't be comb filtering but cancellation, secondly it would depend entirely on the angle of the drivers vis-a-vis the ear canal, thirdly this is merely theoretical and to my knowledge hasn't ever been proved by measurement.
It's a meme.
>>54399269
kewl. get your self some beta tapes, Get Die hard, essential 80's core.
>>54399290
I wanna go, i live in san antonio so it will be a weekend for me.
>>54435407
>This isn't true though, first it wouldn't be comb filtering but cancellation
Look at the pattern of the cancellation. That's a comb filter.
>secondly it would depend entirely on the angle of the drivers vis-a-vis the ear canal
Distance, not angle. And you will get comb filtering in every case except the one where the effective distance (including pinnae) is identical. That is, every case in practice. You can only avoid comb filtering in theory. That's why multidriver headphones are so rare.
> thirdly this is merely theoretical and to my knowledge hasn't ever been proved by measurement.
It has been. A long time ago. Sorry.
It's irrelevant these days as serious multidriver headphones died in the 70s.
>>54409036
Same, only I'm Canadian. Even an A500 would be nice.
>>54435500
>the pattern of the cancellation
You mean the graphical illustration and not any kind of calculated model even? LOL
>It's irrelevant these days as serious multidriver headphones died in the 70s.
Actually many are still made and well liked, I just don't like the plastic / glued-together construction of modern memephones.
>>54435649
>You mean the graphical illustration and not any kind of calculated model even? LOL
No. How do you think comb filters are made? With selective cancellation and reinforcement from phase shifts. This is the very definition of a comb filter.
>Actually many are still made and well liked
Like? remember, I said serious, not gimmick.
>I just don't like the plastic / glued-together construction of modern memephones.
Virtually every headphone from the 60s and 70s, yes, even the old battleship Kosses, are made of plastic (inferior plastics by modern standards) and entirely glued together (again, relatively primitive adhesives).
All the cans you've mentioned so far are [you guessed it] glued together plastic. They had a little metal in them, usually a thin strap of it in the headband, but that was pretty much it.
>>54435649
>>54435717
"In signal processing, a comb filter adds a delayed version of a signal to itself, causing constructive and destructive interference. The frequency response of a comb filter consists of a series of regularly spaced notches, giving the appearance of a comb."
