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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
canadafag here, with our weak-ass CAD. what's the most cost-effective laptop that shows up on canadian ebay?
Now listen, what part of the word "business" do you not understand?
So is it pretty much impossible to find a NEW condition X201 for under $100?
![WP_20160505_06_12_49_Raw__4k[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/77Nugw4.jpg "WP_20160505_06_12_49_Raw__4k[1].jpg")
How comfy are you today /tpg/ ?
Anyone have any experience installing the custom BIOS'es for the X220?
Any issues?
>>54393774
Nice to see your battery got in and you're enjoyin that!
I was doodling on my x220t during my tabletop gaming session and it felt gud
The "g" key constantly falls off my t460s. Anyone else with a similar problem? Am I just typing like a retard or is there some build flaw in this keyboard? The "claw" behind the key looks totally fine to me, so it isn't broken.
>>54394131
>nu thinkpads
kek
>>54393332
Pretty damn good, I got mine reduced for £60 and its totally worth it.
>>54393945
Comfy status: nominal
Can anyone here with a t420 comment on the battery life?
Also please mention if you are on Windows or Linux (and which distro).
>>54394144
Paid by uni. Why chose a t420 if you can get a brand new one for free?
>>54394070
I fucking love it. That Quadro is incredible for older games that often have compatibility problems with new GPUs, and it works beautifully with nGlide. It even has enough power to run rFactor, though the 2GB of mismatched RAM I've stuck in there is affecting performance.
The P8700 doesn't quite have the muscle for Whiplash thru Dosbox, however, but nothing will run that as smooth as a real DOS machine.
>>54394131
Tiny dab of superglue will fix it. I did it with the Enter key on my x230. No more issues.
Can someone help me find a good condition X200? It doesn't have to have an OS necessarily.
>>54394194
Because I'm not a
>nu male
>nu cuck
>res cuck
>specification cuck
>>54394663
>specification cuck
Cracker, do you even technology?
>>54394808
>Newer is always better!
Enjoy 1% performance gain for double the cost faggot.
Threadly reminder if you are using a Thinkpad that is newer than *30 you are a Redditor and should kill your kys.
>>54394826
>Not getting the same performance as an old midrange sandy chip in a newer power efficient chip and getting better battery life
Fag.
>>54394895
S-shut the fuck UP! BACK THE FUCK OFF?!
>>54394891
TFW W530 and X230 owner
>>54395042
You made the cut. Congrats.
I really wish Lenovo hadn't discontinued the ThinkLight, it was so much better for working in dim rooms and it had good enough keyboard illumination.
At least the notebook performance is stagnating so my i7 X230 will be powerful enough for long time.
>>54395112
>tfw T420 with thinklight
I'm going to use this baby forever
>>54394895
Nothing will ever come close to the glory of using Sandy bridge.
>>54395172
I'm not saying the i7 2640 and the QMs aren't a breakthrough, goddamn I had a crappy consumer laptop that was usable because of sandy bridge back in 2011, but they're 32nm cpus.
>>54395208
Lezbehonest for a minute. What is the big deal with using a 10nm bigger cpu, what's the real world difference.
>>54395254
The power usage, Anon, you can get a lower power cpu that offers similar or better performance, so you can run it cooler, i run the hell out of my laptop on adobe premiere, so it gets as hot as it'll get hot for a while when it renders.
>>54391116
>Elitebook
What's so good about it?
I'm seriously thinking about getting a tablet version Elitebook since it's cheaper than an X220/x201
Also, since you guys seem more knowledgeable about computers and boards and shiz.
Whoever designed and said MSATA should only have SATA 3G, is... stupid.
Clevo did this on my laptop and they didn't broke out the pads for the second 6G port on the chipset.
I only have an SSD on this laptop and 3G is fucking the performance of the drive, should I cut the traces going to the HDD and connect them to the MSATA port to have 6G there? What are the risks with signal integrity and shiz because of using just a crappy cable or should I shield it or use proper SATA cables?
>>54393945
I am very comfy today
I'm thinking of going to a computer store around here, and looking through the bargain bin to find an SSD for my x220. But it's kind of far away... Should I try, /tpg/?
Thinking about getting an i5 T420s with a 1600x900 screen for college this year. Thoughts?
What is the best IPS screen replacement model for an x220 (LP125WH2(SL)(B3) or LP125WH2(SL)(T1))?
And where is the best place to get that specific model purchasing from europe?
>>54395355
If it's an excuse for you to leave the house and get some fresh and then by all means.
>>54395401
I have a T420 900p and I absolutely love it. I get like 5 hours of battery life so you'll probably get more
This is in pretty good condition no?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-x200-thinkpad-tablet-Core-2-Duo-1-86GHz-2GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-Linux-mint-/131754565202?hash=item1ead2f1e52:g:01UAAOSwpzdWrScf
>>54395678
Damn nigga, the stickers haven't even worn off.That is nice condition.
>>54395355
I just ordered this for mine:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/381169655824
Best /g/ meme I've ever fallen for
This SSD will fit in my Thinkpad T420 correct? It is 2.5" 7mm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226688
Can anyone help me out here? >>54394172
I'm looking into buying a t420 but I'd like to know how the battery life is on it first.
>>54396305
3-4 hours presumably on a 6 cell, really depends on the wear and condition of the battery.
>>54396305
T420 here, 4-5 hours on Balanced mode in Windows 8.1.
Linux I get 3.5-4 with TLP
So my t430s has computrace enabled so I called absolute and they said its not activated. Not sure what to do
>>54396319
>>54396322
Thanks guys. I think I'll leave it on Windows for as long as I'm in school for the longer battery and then install Linux on it when I'm done.
>>54395822
This is what they have in stock, instead of the Mushkin and corsair. Which one is the best?
>>54396367
Or you can just Dual boot
>>54396464
They don't have the x400. That was probably the best one too.
>>54396464
You can get 256GB on Newegg
>>54396539
How much though?
>>54396584
About the same price
Anyone modded their t420/t420s with RMSMajestic's 1080p ips panels?
>>54396788
How much do the panel's cost? I'd be scared to try
>>54395456
About to purchase the T1 panel from here.
>http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Brand-A-LP125WH2-SL-T1-LP125WH2-SL-T1-For-Lenovo-X230I-X220I-laptop-LCD-screen-12/32588551926.html
From what I can gather on the internet, the T1 is a newer version of the T2 panel, both made for the x230, but still fully backwards compatable, apparently slightly better quality, uses less power, weighs a little less.
I guess I will just be very specific that I will only accept an A+ panel (as stated on his listing) with the exact model part number.
Are there panel mods for a non tablet X200?
>>54396788
>>54397473
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=118070
Doesn't seem too bad. $50 for the converter then the price of the screen and cable. Pretty simple it seems for the T420s.
>>54397766
AFFS screen swap. Same resolution, but better color/viewing angles.
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=84941
A matte screen does exist, but I think the other two candidates for transplant are glossy.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fthinkwiki.de%2FX200_Displayumbau&edit-text=&act=url
You have to start from a CCFL model, or you have to replace the inverter board too, IIRC.
>>54397733
https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/screen-part-number/LP125WH2%28SL%29%28T1%29/
$30 cheaper
>>54398149
Why not better resolution panel exists?
>>54398162
Why are turds brown?
That's just the way shit is.
>>54398170
Wow, no need for the rude reply. I think I'm deserving of an apology.
>>54398184
I wasn't being rude. I was being quippy.
Here, have a therapy kitten.
>>54398230
Apologize.
>>54398252
Damn rusty nail, chill.
>>54398252
Don't talk to me or my T60p ever again.
>>54395401
>>54395491
T420s generally gets worse battery life than T420 with a 9cell, even with the ultrabay battery.
>>54398157
>compatible with p/n LP125WH2(SL)(T1)
Which instantly makes me think they are going to send something else.
Well, in the end trying to buy on AliExpress was too much of a pain in the arse (i',m pretty sure last time I bought something on there they supported paypal), so I might email these guys and see what exact model they will send (I'd probably be okay in the end with either a T1 or a B3 panel.)
Anyone play vidya on the W530? I'm getting shitty frames even on CS GO. With the 1000M
Where can I get a t420 with free international shipping? A local seller was selling some but he seems pretty fishy and some of the reviews made me stop considering buying from him.
>>54398821
Do you own knee pads?
>>54398835
No, I was planning to get some but I prefer laying some cushions on the floor.
>>54398748
Haven't tried cs:go, but played F.E.A.R on my w520 with a 1000m at 1080p on max setting, it got pretty hot 80c-90c in the cpu(2720qm). It probably wasn't 60fps, but it felt "smooth", I'm sure if I dropped it to Med setting and maybe 900p or 720p i'd get better temps. The gpu wasn't even that hot though, like in the high 60s mid 70s
so if I want to get an eGPU setup going, I just need a normal GPU, a normal PSU, and one of these connector things:
http://www.amazon.com/Bplus-version-interface-ExpressCard-Length/dp/B00ZI33QLY
right? do I need anything else?
>>54398885
Huh. Shame the 1000M is so shit.
>>54398895
You'll need a pair of knee pads
>>54398895
also, this appears to be out of stock, I didn't check the link before I posted. What's a good alternative?
>>54398896
Yeah, but at the same time it's not a gaming laptop. I still enjoy light games on it like, The Binding of Issac and Hotline Miami.
>>54396489
T H I S
Currently dual booting Windows 10 and Kali on my T420, it's glorious.
>>54399058
>Windows 10
Isn't driver support abysmal
>>54399058
Not him, bu never dual booted before. When I set seperate partitions do I have access to the rest of the drive at all? Like movies? Currently use windows for adobe and MS office.
>>54399058
holy shit someone else is dual booting kali, What do you use it for anon?
>>54399117
Yeah, i was able to access my wangdows partition from Mint and there is an app that allows you to mount ext4 partitions on windows but i forgot what it was called.
>>54399152
>>54399058
>Kali
Memeing too hard family
>>54399465
i had to use it in my one of my cyber security classes, so i just dual booted it on my thinkpad
>>54398748
Lower your resolution maybe? I got 40 tp 70 fps at 720p on my x220
>>54399520
>i had to use it in my one of my cyber security classes
pls stop the memes
Kali is a meme distro. There is nothing that makes it special. It's just a bundle of packages and le ebin wallpaper on a base install
No one that's seriously learning about or using security tools would use that garbage
Anyone has an idea what's happening to my chinkpad? It only does this during startup, it stops as it boots to the desktop.
This sounds more softwarish, even though both hinges are fucked up.
I know it's >Edge, but it was my gateway chinkpad so be nice pls
Ignored ;_;
>>54396365
Give it back Jamal.
T420 or T420s? I like the fact that the s has 3.0 usb...
>>54399835
T420 can have the cpu swapped, so you can buy an i5, and upgrade it later if you want to.
>>54399848
an i5 will suit me perfectly. Just need a shitposting, facebook machine, and bring it to class occasionally. I have gaming desktop.
>>54399865
Then get a T420s, it's a slimmer machine.
>>54399637
>This sounds more softwarish, even though both hinges are fucked up.
That's not software. It's just display-dependent. You're either losing the LCD controller, or the LVDS drivers on the mobo. Maaaaybe the cable is fucked or loose if you're lucky.
>>54399960
[is it flickery, or pretty constant? Could be GPU too]
You're welcome.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X200-Tablet-Intel-C2D-1-86GHz-4GB-160GB-12-1-Windows-7-/301930613796?hash=item464c778c24:g:mKMAAOSwZVhWSgG3
>>54399865
I have a T420s. It is definitely slim and small. Feels lightweight, too. The 900p screen isn't terrible, but isn't great either. The keyboard is amazing, but takes a little getting used to.
Only downsides are battery life and heat. I have the i7, so maybe an i5 would be better, but it runs pretty hot. And the fan is a bit high pitched. As for battery, I am pretty sure mine is near the end of it's life, as I get about an hour out of it, maybe a bit less. I plan on getting a new main battery as well as an ultrabay battery, but both are pretty expensive. I expect at least a couple hours, maybe three, with both new batteries.
I say get one if you're in college and just need a simple, reliable, easy to carry laptop.
Also, does anyone have one of those exploded thinkpad wallpapers for a T420s? There isn't one in the imgur gallery.
are there ANY relatively recent laptops that aren't 16:9?
>>54400107
>>54400111
Only macbooks but they're fucking gay.
>>54400067
overpriced
Got lucky with mine
Two Lenovo 9 cell batteries both in good shape
X200 Tablet with 120gb ssd and stylus
travel charger
150USD
Yay, it's finally done. I just finished my big update to https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-kit.shtml
I'll reiterate this from whenever the last time I asked was.
Any word on those X200 modern chink mobo replacements?
>>54400479
They're not for X200. They're for X60 and X61.
>>54400479
won't they cost thousands like the T60 ones?
Time for the T9600 swap!
Originally, I'd replaced my Fujitsu Lifebook's C2D-P8600 with a T9600, but the T5010's heatsink can't deal. So the T9600 can go into this E6400, which you can see has a more substantial thermal solution.
The Fujitsu requires the removal of 16 screws to remove the case door, heat sink and CPU. The Dell needs only 5.
>>54400492
even better.
>>54400505
Last word on nb51 was they'd be about $400. Assuming they ever ship of course. Supposedly, a batch just went on sale to nb51 members on May 1, and they were considering a second batch to sell overseas at some unspecified later date.
I managed to score a prototype through 'connections'--- so I know it's real (and it even works pretty well, though it has a few rough edges)
>>54400521
I agree.
I'm thinking about buying a T420. Which CPU do I want? I took a year off from school after high school, and I'm going to attend college starting this fall. I'll go for computer science. That's why I'm wanting to buy one of these.
>>54400563
At least a 2520m.
>>54400510
>Dell needs only 5
Cool design for it's time, It's the best of the Penryn notebooks imo.
Success!
...For the Dell, anyway. The last time I changed the CPU of the T5010, it refused to boot for a while, but after a night of charging, it fired up happily. It seems to be doing that again.
>>54400596
Nice, the 6 meg L2 cache core 2s are really good cpus.
>>54399835
You can put an expresscard in with 2 usb 3.0 ports, should fit flush too
>tfw the post office fucked up shipping my trackpoints and returned them so i have to pay another $2.80 (on top of the $2.50 i originally paid) to get them.
All i want are my soft rims so i can have one on my t420 and one on my rt4300 keyboard.
>>54400540
Would you happen to know if the tablet version uses the exact same motherboard?
>>54400787
It does not (different embedded controller, some extra hardware), and as far as I know, nb51 has no intent to make a tablet version. I'm disappointed by that too.
>>54400685
They are. It's not that much of an improvement in raw numbers, but I can definitely tell with single-core games and emulation.
It's really become a thigh-cooker, though the heatsink assembly seems to perform well and the fan has a intake flow rate high enough to be felt with your hand below the machine.
>>54401133
Quadro and a 35w Core 2 are leg warmers, but they're not the worst I've seen, it'll still be reliable and not give you a moment's trouble. I actually have a second E6400 with a T9550 and 4500MHD as a web browsing mule, it runs cooler, but you cant watch 1080p on it, so there is a tradeoff,
>>54400540
I remember seeing some "mint condition" X60 and X61s with the broadwell based motherboard on ebay going for a lot (close to 3000USD I think). I did not know that they would be as cheap as 400. Hopefully these will come to the market soon. Maybe I should start looking for a good condition X60...
>>54401241
>I remember seeing some "mint condition" X60 and X61s with the broadwell based motherboard on ebay going for a lot (close to 3000USD I think). I did not know that they would be as cheap as 400
400 would be just the mobo. Which is honestly not bad at all.
>>54399634
>There is nothing that makes it special. It's just a bundle of packages and le ebin wallpaper on a base install
I have never used Kali, but you're discounting it because it's like every linux distro ever aside from the big 3 or 4 that everything else is based on.
Ok.
>>54400467
vastly underappreciated post
You're doing god's work, anon.
hi /tpg/
sorry to wake you up but I wanted your second opinion on my T420 repair.
Pic related, on the back she looks fine (sorry, there's no Thinkpad Sticker Thread in Catalog) but crack open, turn on all its lights aaaand...
>>54403062
c-c-c-combo breaker!
...BAM we are in for some shit.
My last google tab tree led me to bookmarking a couple chinese sites for a better panel from the X1 Carbon line of products which also required an extended cable. But it's been quite a while since I came across that solution and held off because there was something like a 60-day shipping delay.
>>54403082
thanks anon, good on you sticking to the classics
>>54403117
>>54403125
That's fucked that your shit broke, sorry anon.
>>54403117
but really I don't care about it being the best panel available, the thing is, she also gets really fucking hot (CPU above 90) without a cooling pad. So I'll have to gut it to fix that anyway. I'm not afraid of a soldering iron, etc but I'd rather a /g/ solution than a /diy/ one
Tbh
So,
clitmouse finger pain. Not just me? finger exercise time , I guess?
>>54403939
Never experienced it. I'm now using soft rims and I do find these much more comfortable to use though. Give those a go.
I need to buy a new wireless NIC for my x201 because I keep getting this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1244350
I know it's a hardware issue because it happens in every OS including windows.
I was looking at getting an Intel Wireless-AC 7260, is this compatibile or am I going to have dramas?
Should I try and get a new internal card or give up and by a usb nic?
>>54394891
Damn.
But I was enjoying life quite a bit, making good progress at my job, finally managed to get off the path to wizardhood, and I'm currently working on getting a gf, and now I have to kill myself?
Oh, well, if someone on /g/ tells me to do so, I guess I have to do it.
Should I just hang myself, or beat myself to death with one of my old thinkpads? Or, I could also simply cut my wrists on the fucking sharp edge of my nu-pad X1…
thinking about getting a t420 but stuck on a few points
>1600x900
read from different place giving different opinions about going 1600x900 from 1366x768
or that 1600x900 is sitll pretty bad
what do you guys think?
>graphics card
how much of a difference does the nvidia 4200m card make compared to integrated graphics?
any input would help
>>54401241
>>54402208
Feels good to have my old X61 waiting for a glorious future…
Now that mobo just needs to be easily available, and I would need a new, high res screen and a new battery
>>54405084
>how much of a difference does the nvidia 4200m card make compared to integrated graphics?
It halves the battery life, boils your nuts and makes installing a sane OS rather difficult, for no real gains at all.
Unless you want to "hardcore" game (but then, get a modern gamer laptop, not a thinkpad) or you have a specific need for a portable workstation (then you probably dont have to ask this question here) with a certified Quadro card, dedicated GPUs in laptops are a really bad idea.
>>54395112
thinklight is fucking useless if you use your keyboard heavily and get shiny keys
>>54405155
But you probably wont need it to find one of the keys you use all the time, but probably to find something you never use, like µ.
Also, with thinklight, you can just grab a cheap, new keyboard, or even relabel some keys, whereas with backlit, you always need a new, expensive keyboard.
t. someone who bough an AZERTY machine, because it was 100€ cheaper, expecting to just slap some labels one it, like on the last machine, but now cant really do it, because backlight…
T420 arrived lads, loving it already
>>54405451
Getting my first one tomorrow HYPE
>>54396305
t420 here, around 6 hours on linux with tlp
Managed to snag a T60 and T410s on eBay for cheap, but I'm a poorfag and don't wanna sit on dual laptops. Which would you keep?
>>54405724
410s would probably last longer, but I'd say sell both and get a 20/30 series. Their still cheap, but have Sandy/Ivybridge processors. The aspect ratios on your 2 are sexier though.
How good is x1 screen(2k)?
are there any thinkpads with nice ips screen 1080p or 1440p
>>54405724
If there in good nick, sit on 'em. You'll regret selling either as they're both iconic and last of the better screen ratios. Go rob an old lady or something.
>>54405825
The x240 has the option for 1080p ips screen, the T440s as well. Just make sure to swap the trackpad was the 50 series trackpad.
There's also the modded screens, but that's up to you whether you want to go that route.
How to put a hd screen in my t420?
Idiot friendly please.
>>54405949
It comes with an HD screen :)
>>54405949
you mean full hd screen desu sempai
And you need an LVDS extender to do this.
I'm really enjoying my T410 but I am considering a T440p, mainly for the USB 3.0 ports and also because they are cheap as shit used since the model doesnt have the regular touchpad.
It will be a desktop replacement for me so I dont give a shit. Should I?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301943851027?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l6027&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI301943851027.N35.S1#shpCntId
>>54406389
Have you thought about a T510 or T520? Could be a better grab for a desktop replacement.
>>54406479
I have, they sadly do not have USB 3.0, which I happen to need. I'll keep looking around anyway, thanks for the advice
>>54405724
sell the T410s to fund a T601F
>>54406511
If that is the only thing holding you back and you'd actually prefer them, you can also just add it in via Expresscard.
Or maybe with their docking stations?
>>54395456
Why does purchasing a specific screen model number have to be so complicated??
AliExpress only has shit payment options.
Every other website i've tried cant confirm what exact model they will send (AKA they will probably send you a shitty B1)
Anyone know somewhere that can guarantee a T1 or B3 model in Europe/UK?
>>54406389
t520 with usb 3.0 express card could be a good way to go.
Little and large. Brand new X201 and mint condition W510. Installed/installing Ubuntu Mate on both. Couldn't be happier - thank you /tpg/.
>>54406722
>>54406968
thank you guys, hadnt thought of that
>>54405724
Depends on what you're doing with them.
If it's just shitposting/music/etc a T60 would do fine. I can't tell if it's SXGA+, but to me that would trump the T410s's x900 display. If it's
>x768
then definitely not.
T410s is going to have better specs but I wouldn't expect any better battery life.
Really, you should keep both. But as much as I hate to say it, if it's going to be your only machine keep the T410s. Don't expect to get much money for the T60.
How do I fully discharge my X220's battery?
I'm currently at the stage where it crashes few seconds after pressing the power button, is there a way/need to go further?
>>54408253
Why do you wish to do this?
>>54408400
I dunno, the battery is at two thirds original capacity, I'm trying to resurrect it.
Don't think this will work, but maybe.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Core-i5-2-6Ghz-Premium-IPS-Display-8GB-Webcam-320GB-Win-7-/141737719128
This seller has the X220 with the IPS screen. Is it a good display? Asking because sometimes I see people posting about replacing the screen and worrying about which one is the best.
>>54408253
If you go any further in discharging them and you need to recharge them again they'll just blow up.
>tfw people still don't understand that batteries are supposed to be run on proper cycles
"wah my x never holds a charge" turns out they never gave it a solid first charge and then never charge it prooperly afterwards
>>54408439
I think it's more likely for you to make it worse.
>>54408451
I don't think the stock ones ever change. They're decent, but with mediocre color representation. If you care about that sort of thing you can replace it, but it's not that big of a deal.
>>54408613
Alright, thanks!
>>54405724
I'd keep both.
Keep as many machines as you can reasonably administrate. Have a backup machine and a backup for your backup. Even if you don't really do anything critically important, it sucks to lose a machine for any reason, even for a day, and having a small fleet ensures you are never without computing power.
I would keep the T60, to answer your question.
What's /g/ opinion on T440s(FHD)?
Is it actually good except for bad trackpad?
How long do you think a refurbished X220 would last? 5years? 10?
>>54410017
it's already five years old, but with what intel's doing with CPU voltage it could last 10. battery life will be comparatively absolute shit though.
>>54410034
Then I'd have to replace the battery, which parts are the most likely to break, and are they easy to replace? for a computer I'd like one that I can maintain, the HP laptop I've got now requires you to disassemble pretty much everything just to replace thermal paste.
>>54410148
I should add that I've been considering a Dell latitude as well.
>>54410148
nothing is likely to break. It's very servicable, parts are cheap, and all you would need is a phillips head as far as I know.
I've been considering getting an external battery and solar panel to solve the battery problem with mine.
>>54410373
A thinkpad certainly seems like a more attractive option than the Dell.
When you said it would possibly last five years more, did you mean five years until some irreplaceable piece of hardware breaks, or that it simply becomes too outdated to use?
>>54410537
outdated, more than likely. If you take care of the OS and maybe stick in an SSD at some point it'll run until you drop it from 15 feet up or what have you.
>>54410194
Good call on the Dells, they don't cuck you with wifi cards like Lenovo.
>>54410148
buy the right hp, example is the photo
So my T430's left ctrl key started not working this morning, just flat out didn't register presses. I even tried it with the key cap taken off and pressing the rubber dome manually, and it still didn't work. After looking stuff up for a bit and restarting with it still not working, I punched it a bit, and it's started working again. Is this a warning sign that my keyboard may be failing or some software issue? It was only the left ctrl key, the right one was fine.
>>54410699
It just means you rolled a crit for "Punch of Fixing".
If I were to buy an X220 from another country, change the keyboard and get a new power cord. Would it work? Or is there something like region locks or something of the sort? Maybe it's a stupid question.
The X220s I can find here in sweden are often absurdly expensive, but if I buy one from ebay from Europe (To get rid of import and customs Then the prices go down significantly.
>>54411624
Yes, it would work.
>>54411698
Great!
bump, omg you guys, page 10?
>>54413908
It's Friday. Not everybody can shitpost 24/7 drinking beer while still at work.
I just wanna make sure I'm not being memed. Local computer place is selling a Dell latitude with an i7 2.6ghz 8gigs ram with a ~200 gig ssd for 180$ only downside is the corner is cracked. Cop or nah?
>>54414010
Sorry anon, I work in the early morning hours and forget sometimes.
>>54414036
If you don't mind the little crack, that is a damn good deal for a tricked out Dell latitude.
>>54414036
Cosmetic damage is easier to deal with than shit spec. Go for it.
>>54414063
>>54414080
Thanks brosephine. The guy was super chill and gave me a low income discount so I'll be heading back there and copping that bad boy tomorrow. I put it on hold cause I wanted to be sure before I dropped buckaroonos on it.
>>54414036
bondo is a helluva drug
>>54393945
There's a breeze hitting me that I don't care for, but the beer at my freind's pub is nice.
>>54395112
>everyone forgetting the purpose of the ThinkLight was to read a book in low light conditions.
>>54398885
You mean the W520? T520 has an NVS 4200m
>>54399634
>not as glorious as parrot sec
>>54400540
Customs would be a bitch, I think thats really the only way of stopping them, that and parcel delivery... especially if its all going different routes.
>>54399165
Partition Wizard?
>>54414036
depends. on what else you have in mind and what for?
T420? easy to ugrade. nice keyboard. i7 a lot of power. do you need that?
all depends nigga. but som eof those are good too
>>54414467
Yeah I meant w520. Where'd I mention t520?
>>54399634
So I guess being able to crack WPA networks is not a good function? K bud. Continue to act like you're some l33t hax0r who doesn't need noob tools like Kali.
>>54414532
Googling it again, it looks like it was ext2fsd. It worked nice the 2 times i use4d it before i wiped windows.
T420 VS x220
?
>>54399072
Meh
>>54414549
Currently I'm using a T41 thinkpad so it's quite a bit of an upgrade... and there weren't any laptops there with an i5.
>>54396617
240gb ADAtTAon newegg right now for $54
Using it for my linux parition and no issues.
>>54414587
T420 is better if you don't need the the smaller form factor. Only things is (natively) the x220 only comes in 720p(ips is an option), while the T420 can come in 900p(tn).
>>54410148
CPU fans eventually wear out. Same with spinning drives and SSDs. Capacitors way down the line. Not much else is likely to ever fail unless you physically damage it.
>>54414743
Backlights die too, even LEDs (though they last longer than CCFLs, and longer with each generation)
>>54411624
All ThinkPad parts within a given model are swap-able.
>>54414767
Indeed, forgot to mention that.
I'm very happy I fell for this meme
>>54414876
sweet hackntosh.
>>54414876
>tfw i kind of want to do this to my t420
Mybe after i build a desktop. Its probably not wise to have it as my main machine if its hackintoshed.
>>54414770
wait, so I could get a primo X200 and stick an X260 mobo in it? don't play games with my heart, anon.
>>54415006
No, he means that any part from an X200 could be swapped into another X200. Cross-generation board swaps are possible, but only between select few models.
I put an i7-2820QM into my T420 last night. Booted right up in record time, and everything works great.
Except one thing: it appears to have a screen issue when waking up from sleep. If I walk away from it for 15 minutes, come back, and hit a key, nothing happens. I'm pretty sure it's on and awake, because if I tap the shift key enough times I get that annoying Windows accessibility popup beep.
If I shut the laptop, then open it back up, the Windows login screen appears. So, it's like the screen initialization fails with a regular, non-closed sleep.
Any ideas?
>>54414951
idk, I built a mackintosh desktop a while ago, and I haven't had any real problems other than some usb ports not working
>>54403255
You can get the better 1600x900 panel from an Alienware M14x R2 (if you had 1600x900 originally, if you had 1366 then you need a different cable). You won't have to solder anything to replace the screen and clean up the CPU heatsink, but you will want to get some good thermal paste to replace the old waxy stuff between the CPU and heatsink.
>>54408451
The IPS has much better viewing angles, OK color, and a problem with image retention (when displaying dark gray you'll see shadows of what you were looking at before).
>>54411624
You won't even need to replace the whole power brick, just the line cord, since all of the ones made now will work on 100-240 volts.
>>54415064
I have occasionally had problems with my X230 going to sleep and then not waking up, but it only happens once every couple of months so I haven't tracked it down.
What games do you play on your thinkpad
>>54415733
Better ones
>>54415733
Is that DS2? Egpu? What settings and how does it run? Mostly just play indie shit and older games. Haven't tried anything modern because I just assume a 5 year old buisness laptop wouldn't run them well.
>>54415733
It's pretty impressive how far you can stretch an old Core 2 Duo when you free it from the restraints of the GPUs of the time. It chokes up pretty hard in certain situations but generally does a good job.
>>54415817
Yeah it's ds2. I'm actually streaming it from my desktop, it's kind of stuttering though
>>54409432
Man the T8 is ugly. I have a T2, T4 and a T7 and they look amazing. I should be getting a C1 soon for chump change from a friend.
Also, I managed to crack the supervisor password on an X200 I bought on ebay using the EEPROM method. If T60/T410s anon reads this, the X200 is pretty strong for general use but it's also very cheap.
>>54405093
>tfw you have to assemble a good laptop yourself in the year 2016
Who would have guessed?
>>54414570
>implying that function is somehow exclusive to Kali
Keep meeming
>>54415804
Is that Stalker on an X200t?
>>54415996
x220t. Shit runs on anything, though.
>>54415733
How do you play game son yout t420? Mine lags at diablo 3 now. although it used to play fine... not sure if it is some drive rissue or what.i mean i can play it. just runs shittier than it did before.
I also have the nvidia NVS4200 one
>>54416016
The X200t looks so comfy.
Why is there no Express card to Thunderbolt adapters.
Would make adding external GPU to an X220 or similar so fucking easy.
>>54416024
I'm streaming using Steam from my desktop. It's alright
>>54415900
>stream on steam
Didn't know that was a thing, too bad it has to be on the same network. Away from home for work atm and would have been awesome to keep playing DS3 on my thinkpad.
>>54416079
I don't see how it'd be any easier than an Expresscard eGPU.
>>54416106
because external GPU solutions for thunderbolt are already being created, just look at the Razer external GPU dock. Thunderbolt.
>>54416103
You could create a VPN on on old computer or something and use the same IP, then it might work?
Need some input from anyone that did the AFFS swap on their x200. I installed everything as it should be. On power on the lcd powers on, status lights work, but the lcd ribbon cable started to smoke. Now the cable is partly fried, lcd still works. What could have caused the cable to burn? I bought the lcd cable and inverter second hand, could the ribbon cable or inverter be faulty? I tested the motherboard connection with an led lcd and it works without issue.
>>54415804
Plan on grabbing a x220 tab for hobbyist drawing. Pretty excited desu senpai.
Got a T431s, didn't even know they existed. Upgraded from a T410. The T410 is now in my work truck for DDC BAS systems, fuck I hate my shops Comcrap laptop, its fucking terrible. The T410 is 6 years old, I bought it when it was about 2 years old, original owner didn't know what he had. Had a non-genuine copy of 7 on it, so he just unloaded it. A simple reload and all was fixed. Considering I paid $300 CAD for it 4 years ago, I got my money out of it.
Couple things with the T431s though,
This new touchpad dealy, not crazy about the buttons but I'm getting use to it.
Second is the resolution, fuck it's wide. Never used this aspect ratio before. I think my T410 was 16:10, 1440x900. This is 1600x900. It's nice but its very wide.
Overall, I am happy with it, but the older style keyboard was nicer and the touchpad was easier to use (as was the trackpoint), the build quality is nice. And considering the price, I'm very happy. Paid the same for this that I did for the T431, so I'm content.
>>54416223
there's a finger touch mode that's pretty shit, which you'll want to disable, but yeah krita runs pretty well.
>>54416360
if thats using the same trackpad as the t440 you could probably swap it with a t450 one and get the buttons back.
>>54416360
The trackpad might be swapable with the 50 series trackpad like the 40 series are able to. That way you'd get physical right, middle, and right click buttons back.
>>54416404
>>54416443
I have contemplated that, definitely going to be looking into it. the clickpad is very cumbersome for quick tasks like I was use to with my T410.
>>54416456
alot of the complaints about the t440 stemmed from that trackpad. It really was trash.
>>54416563
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/For-Lenovo-Thinkpad-X1-Carbo-T431S-S3-YOGA-TOUCH-Three-buttons-Touchpad-Clickpad-/111827691685?hash=item1a097328a5:g:wvoAAOSwyQtVh9Q3
I found this, it intrigues me. Says its for the T431s, I think I have some paypalbucks kicking around, might be worth getting this.
>>54415071
>>54414876
What guide did you follow to do this? Hows the functionality? I am aware you will have to swap out the wireless card to have it functioning correctly.
>>54416360
Seeing this thinkpad is like walking in on your wife having sex with your brother
>>54416360
Seeing this thinkpad is like your wife's son have sex with your boyfriend's sisters cousin
>>54417034
thats a whole lotta gay happening there
Is there an easy way to install the FHD display into X220 by yourself? With as little soldering as possible.
Is there a guide with all the parts and where to get them?
>>54417510
Just stick with the stock display. It's part of the X200 experience.
>>54415733
Portal 2, COD: MW + MW2 (at lower settings), and some old DOS games on my x230. Haven't tried anything else. Not really sure what else it's capable of.
Played HL2 on a T60p for a little while but sweet Christ did it ever get hot.
>>54415733
Civ 5, Dwarf Fortress, Binding of Isaac: Rebirth/Afterbirth. They run pretty well on my X220.
>>54416175
I haven't done one, but was it a CCFL or LED inverter? IIRC you need a CCFL inverter.
I'm amazed it still works with a torched cable, kek.
>>54415733
t420
Dragons Dogma
Stalker CoC/ third one
Dark souls 2
Dwarf Fortress
Axiom verge
Dawn of War 1 SS
Men of War Assault Squad 2
Risk of Rain
Dustforce
Have an 120 hdd with windows I throw in to play games. I don't know which work on linux.
