Why do people keep on buying 2012 CPUs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aenCxVcUwPE
>>54383912
Poorfags, poorfags everywhere.
What a specimen
>ReviewTechUSA
because we're at the point where you don't notice a difference. sure benchmarks can be a bit higher. but nothing a human can notice. also OCing still works the same.
Not really worth updating your whole system right now. maybe next gen
>>54383912
Isn't that a sponsored video?
I just bought an 8300, it's great for streaming dota 2, just need a better PSU to overclock it
>>54383912
dumb poorfags
>>54383912
>>54385214
skbiity bop bu doo doo
>>54383912
Because the only other option at the time was an i3 3220, which can't compete in either price or performance.
Fx6300 could easily be OC to i5 2500 performance and was slightly cheaper than an i3. It's still performing great too, no need to upgrade for a while. Incredible value for the performance it's given me.
>>54383912
Probably the same reason why people are still using 2500ks and even older i7s. CPUs haven't changed all that much.
>>54385325
bad goy, no new drivers for you
>>54385729
an i5 doesn't have the multi-threaded performance of the FX 8 cores
My fx 8320 has been aging like wine, incredibly dependable chip for the heavy workloads i put on it. Got it for 99 bucks brand new from my local microcenter a few years back, no regerts
>>54383912
Price/performance
>>54383912
>Why do people keep on buying 2012 CPUs?
>Why does intel keep re-releasing the same CPU since 2009 i7 900 series
Face it /g/ cpu tech is reaching its limits, well X86 is.
>>54383912
Bought mine in 2013, good purchase at the time since it still suits me.
How else are we going to make AMD great again?
>>54386010
2012 was the best year to build a pc.
I'm not planning to upgrade my 2500k or 7950 anytime soon.
For the money they are still pretty good
i5 performance for i3 money
Can still build a decent core 16gb, asus 97 and 8350 for $400 and still keeps up in games unless you go xfire
>>54385963
Fuck off tiny dick tripfag, I remember you from your penis thread.
>>54383912
Because instead of leaping forward in cpu performance, we are leaping to cpus with 3g capability that can be locked if you forgot your cpu authorization key.
Shouldn't be a problem to use it again after all data has been transmitted if you buy a new key
>>54386074
doesnt need it.
The instruction.per.core of an i5 matches 8 weak cores.
>>54386413
>Not disabling this in BIOS
>Not having a Gaming board
KEK
tinfoilhats btfo
>>54386319
This. 2013 here, fx8320 and gtx 680 4GB Still going strong.
I remember having an 8320. Fuck it was a painful 3 years. I had 3 different coolers, constantly tuning my OC but still my performance was... Bad.
You're all probably wondering why it was bad. For starters, that shit was hot. Extremely hot. It was my first build at the time and I thought I could just stick with the stock cooler for at least a year. Nope, I caved in and bought a water cooler in less than 2 weeks. It's unbelievable how many times I had to change the paste on this thing because I felt like I just wasn't getting the right Temps. I definitely learned a lot from this chip.
When it came time to overclocking, it took me some times to figure out the best tune. I didn't get the perfect tune until 2 years later. I had it at a stable 4.5ghz. It was strange. Anything under 4.4 ghz didn't give me much performance increase but once I break that threshold, I'm getting at least 15+fps difference. At 4.5 I got nearly 20 fps increase in Valley benchmark. The thing is, although I was maxing out every game at the time with 60+fps, games always had weird dips which causes lag/stuttering when playing. It definitely wasn't the gpus not being able to handle the settings, cause there were dips even on lower presets. Some of the dips I can safely blame on shit devs being lazy and not optimizing right but for the most part it was the cpus fault.
Another theory I had was maybe the power supply just wasn't good enough for the system. 750w gold isn't good enough for an oc 8320 and sli gtx 770?
Anyway, I made the switch to Intel back in January and so far no dips, no issues and better performance on a stock 4690k. I haven't had time to overclock it as I want to liquid cool the current gpu in the pc first. This was my experience with fx 8320. I sold it for the same price I bought it but all the months I spent dealing with issues just wasn't worth it. Probably would've been better off getting a 3570k or 2500k at the time.
Also forgot to mention,it seems like everyone is doing amd builds these past 2 weeks. Maybe it's because of the new wrath cooler or whatever.
A while back... they were actually selling the FX-9590 with liquid cooling bundle for the same price as the 8350 Wraith cooler bundle is now... $200. One of the best amd cpus i've ever used btw.
Tho I think they stopped making the liquid cooling bundle for the fx9590. They still sell the cpu without the cooler and you'd have to buy your own liquid cooler for it.
But yea.. these youtubbers getting the fx 8350 Wraith bundle are casual tier faggots.
>>54386461
I need it because video transcoding
>>54386614
I'm >>54386536
I don't have any overheating issues, stock cooler did sound like a jet engine though.
Upgraded to an a1-v10 I got cheap and it's been flawless since. Even OC to 4.4.
I could push it higher but I couldn't be bothered with a serious overclock, too lazy.
I'm currently on a 550w psu, it's a cheapo but it is 80+ silver. Honestly surprised at how well my pc is doing with all the corners I cut just to afford it at the time. It's my first performance machine.
>>54386697
I don't think they're building it for themselves considering they all most likely have intel 59xx tier cpus I'm their current builds. I know the guy from joker productions is making a 400 dollar amd build and is giving it away in a contest.
>>54386461
Yeah, finally, after 4 years. I5 6600 has only just caught up to fx 8350.
In real performance though the skylake is better because ddr4.
>>54386329
Also it can match i7 performance on DX12.
>>54386791
Fuck, I want to go hug my pc.
How does fx6300 hold up against i3 6100 tho?
>>54386791
Here's a chart with more CPUs
>>54386765
I never had overheating problems. Just that the Temps would usually trigger the 65c safety warning on the Asus board I had. I just expected better Temps with a 120mm liquid cooler. I ended up splurging on a corsair h100i gt, their latest model I believe. I got better Temps from that but I feel like I shouldn't need to spend so much just to cool the chip down. Would've been cool if I couldve swapped my 8320 for the 8320e that came out later. Had less wattage usage, and slightly better overclocks. I had a golden chip, it could go all the way up to 4.6ghz(though there was no increase in performance). Just wish it wouldn't exceed 55-65c. Only got worse when newer games were coming out. Last game I played where the Temps went above 65c(on the $130 cooler mind you) was the star wars battlefront beta. I couldn't deal with it anymore and the system just wasn't performing well. Sold all the parts and rebuilt with a skylake chip. Currently satisfied with the build now.
>>54386875
Would the difference between an i5 6400 and a 6600 be too big? I need to save some money
>>54386536
>gtx 680 4GB
Great card but ultimately got crushed by no DX12 support
>>54386875
pclab.pl
I've never trusted that site. They've always been extremely bias against amd.
>>54385942
The Jews sure love their Intel. I remember they were telling Stephen Hawking to remove the Intel processor he needs to communicate because he spoke critically of Israel.
Considering how bad skybreak is i doubt ill get a Intel CPU ever again.
Zen When?
Until then staying with my i5 4690
>>54386785
The memory controller is still on the motherboard for the FX 8 cores isn't it?
>>54387232
Unfortunately yes
Zen will have an integrated Quad Channel DDR4 controller though.
>>54385006
yeah, look at that gentile, oy vei
just get intel for your gaming needs, goy
>>54387265
All Zen has to do is offer consumers 8 core chips with SMT and be close to haswell per core performance to be pretty alright
>>54387325
>14nm
of course it will
>>54386876
>buying AMD
>using Asus
Asking for it 2bh. My friend has an asus r7 260x that runs way too hot, or way too loud.
>>54387178
The AMD processors seem to be doing alright in that benchmark 2bh.
>>54387030
Why not an i3 6100 then? It's great value for the price, and only 0.1fps behind the i5 6600 in that benchmark.
Also cheaper than an i5 6400
>OC FX6300 will be performing as well as an i5 6600k in the new Dx12 gaymes
Oi veh. Looks like I'll be flipping my Skymeme build 7-8 months from now when Zen finally hits.
>>54387344
>Comparing low end gpus to motherboards
>>54386875
So the game only uses 4 threads?
>>54387344
>Why not an i3
Dunno, the only computer I ever had had an i3 2120 and I felt like changing to i5 for some reason
>>54387344
That i5 was running at a really low clock speed compared to the i3
>>54387382
4 cores are definitely better than 2, but the i3 isn't far behind the i5 6400. Maybe save up for an i5 6500 or 6600k?
>>54387392
That's just the i5 6400. It's pretty shit for a quad core. Not worth it compared to the i3.
>>54387418
Ya, the i5 6500 is the minimum recommendation from me
>>54387664
I'd recommend looking to the used market if you need 4 cores but can't go above the 6400 2bh.
>>54387742
difference is like 20 bucks and MSI makes really good motherboards for around $60
>>54385006
Where is his neck?
>>54388017
I will never buy MSI mobos ever again in my life. Had a bad experience with them on one of their FM2+ mobo.
>>54387373
It should be using all your cores under dx12.
That's the main difference between DX12 and DX11. DX11 only uses the first core.. doesn't really do much with the rest.
>>54388555
Personally I always buy gigabyte.
I still have a pIII and the mobo is gigabyte. Ultra durable isn't just a meme.
My i7 870 is on a gigabyte board, it's maintained 4.2GHz for the past 3 years.
My gtx 680 is a gigabyte windforce.
My next upgrade will also feature a gigabyte board and GPU.
I know brand loyalty is stupid, but I've had zero issues with gigabyte products in my life so I'd rather stick with what's been good to me.
>>54388578
Dx12 scales to 6 cores iirc.
Still, on an fx 8350 that leaves 2 extra cores for background tasks, if your system can schedule that correctly.
>>54388555
You probably just bought a poorly designed board, the H110 and B150 VD and GAMING 1151 boards all have USB 3.1 on board as well as solid power delivery
>>54388588
>I know brand loyalty is stupid, but I've had zero issues with gigabyte products in my life so I'd rather stick with what's been good to me.
Really? Every Gigabyte motherboard ive had has randomly shit itself
>>54383912
Because an FX-8350 is still a great CPU, especially for gaming PCs where there is no need for integrated graphics.
Intel makes superior products but this doesn't matter for a lot of people. Hell, I know people who use A4 and A8 APUs for gaming and don't have a single issue.
>>54386875
>the celery
>>54388771
Damn.
Maybe you're unlucky, or I'm just lucky?
Either way I've had really good experience with gigabyte so far
>>54389309
Rigged benchmark or ram speeds? Idk meng
Do you know that atm,vending machine, etc.. Are powered by these cheap ass cpu
>>54383912
Because, you know goy it still gets the job done, not just your latest i7?
All i can say is i had an i5 with crPpy integrated graphics i played league on. I bought my mobo with even worse integrated graphics because i was buying a card later. The 6300 i got bumped me from 18-32fps to 118-194fps.
The other interest was the multicore performance for my terragen3 projects.
Must have been a really shitty i5 model
>>54383912
Moores law is dead
Also amd makes a great space heater in the winter when that chip starts to overheat
My I7 3770k stays nice and cool
>>54386875
>ashes of singularity
Probably the only gane in existence optimized for amd cpu. I think amd even part own stardock.
>>54386875
>a celeron beats an 8 core AMD chip
doesn't surprise me
>>54387232
>>54387265
What no, the memory controller moved to the cpu during phenom II with the change to ddr3 didn't it?
>>54386614
>750w gold isn't good enough for an oc 8320 and sli gtx 770?
No. This would have been pushing it.
>>54390491
It must hurt being this stupid.
>>54385214
>he doesn't even review
>>54383912
I feel bad for these guys but I can see why they do this. The poorfag retards who bought these shitty amd cpus because they were the best they could afford act like a fucking cult. Despite amd's market share being utterly irrelevant you always see some idiots trying to convince himself his cpu isn't shit by yelling to everybody that the FX line is "j-just f-f-f-fine!!!!" and they get other people tricked into their post-purchase rationalization barrage.
I speak from experience because when I was due an upgrade back in 2012 and didn't really know much about the current state of the market, these babbling retards made me fall for the amd meme and I got myself the shittiest CPU I've ever owned, the FX 8120. This shit gave me nothing but trouble but you will STILL see idiots standing by these awful cpus no matter what.
The best builds have Intel CPUs and AMD GPUs.
Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.
>>54392401
Same, man. I bought an FX 8150 and it's a completely subpar product. I don't know why people defend it.
FX-6300 reporting here. Bought because it was cheap and got s good price on HD7870 too. Been very capable for over 2 years now, and I'm glad I didn't spend more because I'm an adult now and finding I don't have a lot of gaming time anyway.
>>54386614
I'm >>54392401 and I deeply understand what you're talking about because I went through the exact same bullshit you did. Had to stay with this shitty cpu for 3 years as well until I found an outstanding deal on a 3770+itx mobo that would cost me less than a brand new i5 4460 and I simply couldn't say no. The difference is fucking night and day.
It was loud and hot as fuck, so I also bought a water cooler for it a few days after its acquisition but I also learned AIO CLCs are hot garbage that way. There was simply no pleasure in playing anything with my computer because I always had massive sub-30 fps dips and instead of focusing on the game I was always monitoring my OC, my temperatures and my shitty performance. I spent more time looking for workarounds than actually enjoying anything, which curiously enough has taught me a great deal about computers as a whole and I finally understood why I made a terrible purchase for the sake of someone else's post purchase rationalization. The peace of mind I got after I made the switch just doesn't compare and I wish I had bought a 2500k back in 2012 instead of that massive turd of an amd cpu. The slightly lower price at the cost of your peace of mind just simply isn't worth it at all whatsoever.
>>54392436
One thing this whole crusade with AMD has taught me is that you just do not engage in discussion with amd fanboys. They behave like jehovah's witnesses and will stand by the shitty cpus made by this awful company no matter what. In fact I was just wondering a while ago if this whole "pc master race" shit that gets pushed around like a fucking cult isn't on their behalf as well. It certainly sounds alike.
>>54392521
Meant to quote >>54392469 on the second part of my post. My bad.
>>54392498
>I'm glad I didn't spend more because I'm an adult now and finding I don't have a lot of gaming time anyway
Post-Purchase Rationalization: The Post
>w-well I d-didn't even w-want better p-performance anyway!
>>54389266
>FX-8350 is still a great CPU
>specially for gaming PCs
>specially
>for
>gaming
>PCs
>amd cpus
>specially good for gaming pcs
Is this satire? What is it?
>>54392597
What game doesn't run on the FX-8350?
>>54392677
Running and running well are different
Games run on singlecore performance best aka Intel
>>54392677
All of them will "run" on it. Now solid 60 fps performance without horrible dips because of the awful IPC this cpu has? Not a lot of them.
The entire MMO and RTS genre for starters save one or two games and anything even remotely unoptimized. Things like ArmA 2/3 or DayZ are a nightmare to run on AMD cpus. This thing couldn't even handle fucking skyrim with 60 fps without an update. The only demanding game that ran well on this shit was witcher 3 because they did a great job at making it properly optimized. Multiplayer games, which are naturally more CPU heavy, will mostly play like shit. Another one which has even sub-30 dips is Diablo 3.
The FX line is terrible for gaming because the vast majority of games will hammer only the first thread while spreading the rest of the load unevenly on the rest, and this thing just so happens to have piss poor IPC, therefore you're much better off even with an i3 for the vast majority of games.
The only time where an FX cpu really shines is at video rendering because the software will always benefit from as many cores/threads as you can feed it. For anything else, consider anything intel.
>>54392753
Then name games that doesn't run well (less than 24 FPS).
>>54392770
>Diablo 3
Now you're just kidding.
>>54392775
The fact you are actually implying that just more than fucking 24 fps is considered "running well" on a fucking PC is just fucking laughable. Sure, 30 fps for consoles is ok, but on a pc you're using a mouse and the added input lag will be GREATLY noticeable due to the aggressive camera pans.
And another game runs like fucking ass on amd from the top of my mind is Dying Light, same goes for Metal Gear Rising, despite it being a very simple game.
Seems alright to me.
>>54392822
That is average fps. Go and actually play the game and come back when you witness the terrible dips it has when things get intense.
Look at the massive dips the guy has and how performance is all over the place, ranging for high 100s to as low as fucking 16 fps: https://youtu.be/FsZGLoXo4WI?t=3m30s
This is exactly why amd is shit when it comes to cpus because your minimum frames are always fucking terrible so the fps looks like it's on a rollercoaster.
>>54383912
nothing worthwhile released after 2012
Top kek this thread is great. Fx 8 core cpus are an incredible value. I play any game with no noticeable dips with an hd 7870 which limits more so in games than the cpu ever would. Im not jacking off over 60 fps or anything, i dont run a frame counter, the game either appears to run smootly and consistently, or it doesnt. With my fx 8320 at 4.2 ghz, I have only experienced the former.
Now, with mt fx 6300 that i owned before, i had dips just trying to play bioshock inf, and had to OC it to 4.5 ghz just to be playable.
The 8 core is an i5 in most cases or better if you ever had to render 3d animations or the like. In a properly threaded environment my FX has the performance of roughly an i7 3770, and i can post personal benchmarks with performance test to back that up (albeit single core obv will be a disparity). Considering i paid 100 bucks for it brand new, its an amazing purchase
I dont think these hoards of amd owners you all talk about were tricked into anything, and theyre not lying to themselves either. They just realize they can save 150-200 dollars and only take a marginal hit in performance compared to an i5 and even an i7 in some cases.
>mfw children judging CPUs by how fast proprietary Wintendo software and useless video games run on them
>>54389840
I'm reading the chart saying AMD cpus are benefiting from dx12 enormously. Could be enough to put them in competition in lower Price points.
This should squeeze Intel a bit and May lead them to lower prices or increase speeds.
But...the future is clearly multi core. That's how I'm interpreting This. Could be mistake buying dual core now
>>54393466
Your investment in multi core cpu can only pay off more and more in the future as dx12 utilizes more cores and game developers optimize for multi core cpus
>>54393532
>970'S sli
Where did you get this chart from, so that I may never go there.
>>54393902
http://www.technologyx.com/featured/amd-vs-intel-our-8-core-cpu-gaming-performance-showdown/
>>54393957
Seeing the FX hold its own against a chip that costs like 5x as much brings a tear to my eye
>>54394122
At 4k on current gpus cpu is more or less irrelevant - you can finally saturate the shaders to near breaking point.
Pic related - GTA V scales to excatly four threads and no more (hence why HT gives negative scaling for the i7).
>>54392401
I bought an 8350 and overclocked it to 4.5 and suffered through terrible performance for months in every game except for Battlefield even then it was iffy. AMD has a terrible architecture for games. It's just not worth it.
>>54392436
this is correct
and what's with AMD actually having drivers on the day a game gets released these past few weeks? crazy.
>>54394384
Raja is out for blood.
>Nvidia still hasn't come out with a new drivers after the 324.whatever bricking update
Hurry up you lazy cunts
>>54395476
Got to force people to upgrade to pascal. Can't let them sit on their cards for more than 2 years.
>>54387286
god I hate intel so fucking much sometimes. but fair's fair - if they can cuck everyone into using their compiler then they earned it I guess.
>>54385995
I had an 212 EVO and just bought a used FX 6300 + GA-970A-UD3 + 8GB 1866 MHZ RAM for under 200$. OC-ed it to 4.3GHz. Sweet price/performance tbqhwu famalam.
>>54386271
>Why does intel keep re-releasing the same CPU since sandy bridge
But yeah you're rite
>>54389825
Just cause 2. and to some extent 3.
Barnd loyalty is a joke I've been switching from amd to intel quite alot I can't see being loyal anytime soon.
This amd Zen has no meaningfull news and everyone is super negitive, as bulldozer person i'm over this cpu , sure it does the job but its too old and too hungery
Intel doesn't look impressvise with their skymeme at all :/
>>54386271
>Face it /g/ cpu tech is reaching its limits, well X86 is.
for the time being yes until new material can be used untill then we're just cuck'ed on ether company and benchmarks are not as impressive anymore no large gains or anything.
even weak cpu's are strong enough to stay aloat for a few years.
>>54385006
If an AMD processor was a person that is what it would look like
>>54392844
>tfw picked up an fx8320 $60 cheaper than an i5 3470
>tfw it's overclocked to 4.5GHz
Godamnit even now with dx12 this chip is still handling things really well in benchmarks for upcoming titles. Looks like I'll be holding off on upgrading for another 4 years, unless my mobo dies.
Because realistically there's nothing an average consumer does that an i5 2500k or an fx8300 can't handle.
Unless you actually do shit like video editing for a living there's no point in spending more than $150 on a cpu.
>>54387286
Dead game
Dear christ that PSU.
>48 amp +12v Rail "750W PSU"
>It's like a 550W true PSU at best
>AMD CPU & GPU
I hope it explodes the instant he hits the power button.
>>54399274
You meant to be linking someone?
I'm >>54386765 and my 550w psu is enough for an overclocked fx8320 and gtx 680.
My psu is pic related, aywun is a cheap Chinese brand. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't started spitting out fire yet. It's in its third year and still going strong.
All these poorfags here while I type this on my 5820K @ 4.5ghz and my DDR4 2400 11-13-13-1T ram.
These chips are good for budget builds. They're pretty old now though.
They can't handle GTA 5 that well, not well at all. You can't really do crossfire/sli with AMD cpus. You really get what you pay for....
>>54390477
>>54387232
>>54387265
/g/ everyone
AMD moved there memory controller onto the die with the Athlon 64 in 2003 idiots. They had it YEARS before Intel. It is part of the reason Athlon 64 was so much better than memeburst.
>>54400270
Well whatever, there's a lot of shit that isn't on the chip with AM3+
>>54399945
>calls others poorfag
>buys a 5820k
Kek
>>54383912
>2011 sandy vagina core i7
>2015 memelake core i7 is only 30% faster
Moore's Law is dead. Invest in a SSD, more RAM, and a better vidya card.
Hope OP learned their lesson, AMD is the best.
>>54399764
>>54399274
The PSU in the video is some cheapo Chinese-off-brand with a terrible 12v rail that's just waiting to explode. Not even 80+ certified and it has a voltage selector so no Active PFC either.
>>54385995
I got my fx6300 for $80 and I <3 it.
Less than 1/3rd the cost of that i5.
>>54401949
Considering how fast sandy was, 30% is a lot of improvement.
>>54402323
Overclocked, it'll be as fast as a third gen i5, even faster now that games and programs are starting to take advantage of more threads.
>>54386875
what about 1100t
>>54383912
>ever using anything other than the stock CPU cooler
>>54402912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3mCpblX7zs
>>54402912
My FX-6300 fan is noisy as fuck. Not that I mind with my headphones on, but some people do. Especially if they're using voice chat or want to record audio. (i.e. livestreamers)
>>54402394
I love how this aged benchmark shows the potential of the fx 6350 even when it was new and programs rarely used more than 2 threads.
Imagine the performance gap between the fx and an i3 3220 now under dx12.
Because Intel would mean new motherboard also, and might as well upgrade to ddr4 memory then. And oh look I'm GPU bottlenecked, let's fix that... Wait I don't have any money, guess I'll just get something better than what I have, but stay in the am3+ socket so I don't do a full rebuild
>>54392521
I'm the guy with the 8320. I couldn't stop laughing after I read your post. I'M FINALLY NOT ALONE ON THIS. I spent so much fucking time worrying about Temps, overclocks. Cpu usage and allllllllll that bs. I probably had at least 3 different monitoring programs running in the background and even Fraps up. Why? Because I could not for the life of me figure out what was causing all these fucking dips. I couldn't even enjoy my fucking games. I lost my interest in gaming a few years back and after learning how far pc gaming is, I decided to get in on it. Now I spend more time making custom builds than actually playing and I have amd to thank for that. I do pc builds on the side and resell them for a little profit, it's a fun side hobby.
Anyway, I feel you man. Had the same exact experience you had until I just couldn't take it anymore. A lot of people would say oh the dips are normal or they're not even noticeable, bull fucking shit. Everytime my frames dipped to 55 or lower, it felt like lag. Felt like 30fps lag and I just couldn't stay immersed in my game. I also hated those games where the frame rate would drop to 45 and stay there in certain locations. Not 44 or lower, dead center 45 like it was a cap or something. I think arkham asylum was one of the games where I'd get full 60 fps and bam one corner would cap me at 45. With my 4690k, I never have to worry about Temps, overclocks or dips/lag. Everything "just werks". No need to check frame rates or anything. I guess maybe the 8320 couldn't handle sli gpu configurations.
Seriously, anyone going with amd willingly is just fucking themselves over. I don't know how their apus are but for their cpus, just trash. Let me stop myself before I rant some more. AMD has me so emotional right now.
>>54405397
$100 more for slower cpu just to get rid of occasional dips?
No thanks.
>>54405726
housefire
>>54405726
Frame dips?
>>54398405
The 8350 is pretty good for video editing, compiling and 3d rendering actually, especially for the price. It just doesn't really make sense for gaming.
>>54405733
Have shitty $15 cooler with shitty arctic cooling pwm fans in shitty antec 300 and have no problem with cooling.
Fans are controlled by speedfan, at idle and during light tasks it's absolutely silent with fans running at 7%, power consumption 70W for whole system. You can hear it while playing games but gpu fan produces more noise than rest of the system.
AMD has better fps/usd ratio than intel at every level. Intel is really better only for very high end where there's just no amd processors but at great expense.
>>54405397
8320 owner here, combfy at 4.2ghz under load, throttles down to 1.4 ghz as usage drops. Do you mind telling us more about your set up that gave you problems? What gpu you were using, what games you had issues with? Ive been playing AAA titles 1080p for years, most recent would be batman arkham knight, and i never notice dips (been using an hd 7870) in any of the games i play at least. This even includes emulating ssbb on dolphin and pcsx2 games, which is supposed to be the FXs weak leg (more single core dependant) but even there i have no issues.
You sure its isnt possible between the OC settings and other components that you just fucked up?
>>54405726
Not your original replier but...
300 points is like an extra Pentium. From 2002.
I seriously fail to see why giving up consistent framerate and a significant amount of heat and power is worth 300 passmark points. That seems utterly negligible.
I like AMD and their strategies but this seems silly. Hell, any time I see people getting their assholes lubed and screaming "X ON SUICIDE WATCH" as they shove their RAM sticks up where the sun don't shine over a single frame or a couple hundred more FLOPS I can only think "What a bunch of gibbering retards."
>>54383912
its simple
they are performing as a i7 under dx12 for like 10 light years of dollars less
