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> Windows builds:
stable: https://mpv.srsfckn.biz/
latest: https://bitbucket.org/rorgoroth/mpv-for-windows/downloads


> Low preset without interpolation:
vo=opengl:backend=dxinterop:blend-subtitles
hwdec=auto


> High preset without interpolation:
vo=opengl-hq:backend=dxinterop:blend-subtitles
hwdec=no


> Low preset with interpolation:
vo=opengl:interpolation:backend=dxinterop:blend-subtitles
video-sync=display-resample
hwdec=auto


> High preset with interpolation:
vo=opengl-hq:interpolation:backend=dxinterop:blend-subtitles
video-sync=display-resample
hwdec=no
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> Ranpha's installers with gpu based presets.
x64: https://imouto.my/download/lav-filters-megamix-x64/
x86: https://imouto.my/download/lav-filters-megamix-32-bit/
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> not using modern device with modern os
> 2016
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Kodi + Sonarr + CouchPotato + Jackett

What else?
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Where could I download baka-mplayer with current mpv?
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>>54381479
I have been GUIfag for some 8 years now, but then I tried MPV and seriously said, Fuck menus
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>>54381227
all this and it doesn't even into dvd menus. fuck mpv.
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Is there some way to sharpen this up without cranking up the acutance?
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>>54381365
Headphones
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>>54382684
quick and dirty way

>vf-add=lavfi="unsharp=3:3:0.5"

anywhere from 0.25 to 0.75 works well but you should probably never use unsharp if you are upscaling (works ok for downscaling or playing at source res)
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>>54383722
I'll be upscaling everything because I have a 5k monitor.
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>>54381227
I assume because of the name that 'dxinterop' is a Windows only thing?
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What the fuck is even going on in this thread

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/pull/3002
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Noob here, what config settings do I need in order to make mpv play with japanese audio and english subs by default? Also, how do I into config settings?
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>>54386308
Color management autism.
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>>54386884
alang=jpn,ja,eng,en
slang=eng,en

This will not work with unmarked streams, but those are rare nowadays.
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>>54386963
Thanks a bunch. Is there anything in the documentation or readme that gives a good rundown of how config settings work?
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What's the main advantage of this over KCP?
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>>54386996
Just use man or HTML version of the documentation here https://mpv.io/manual/stable/ . Its nicely structured and explains pretty much everything. You dont need to read everything, just poke around in different sections and read/use what catches your eye.
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>>54381365
>>54383160
mpv compiled with openal for best poorfag home theater experience
>>54386308
The leading edge in color managed video playback, mpv is literally the most advanced video player because of this single thread
I'm really thankful of that macfag, if it wasn't due to him posting that Melancholia image since last year a lot of color management issues wouldn't have been brought to the attention of the devs
Best of all it's that fhoech is helping them too
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>>54387015
...
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>>54381227
I thought dxinterop was still experimental, is that not the case? Or is it experimental in the sense that Gmail was in "beta" for a decade?
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>>54387674
It works fucking well on my laptop.
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>>54381227
>rorgoroth
please don't link these terribly broken builds
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>>54388031
Any other source for daily/nightly windows builds?
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What about it?
https://github.com/shinchiro/mpv-winbuild-cmake
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Should I use ANGLE (backend=angle) with legacy/not suported anymore Intel and AMD drivers?
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>>54388213
i built my own using msys2 tbqh
just read the guide (and use --enable-gpl3 later on)
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>>54388374
Yes but for dummy/inexperienced windows users?
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Everything is red with the latest user_hooks build (without even shaders).
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>Interpolation

Defend this garbage.
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>>54382170
This the new gtk file picker?
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Whenever there's just black video the subtitles disappear as well. Does anyone know how to fix that?
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>>54388031
>>54388213
>https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpv-player-windows/files
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>>54387674
It's experimental mainly because drivers are still an issue on most systems
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sorry for being utterly useless but how the fuck do I change hotkeys for mpv?

I tried this to change pageup and pagedown from go-to chapter to next file in playlist
it does not work

PGUP playlist-prev
PGDWN playlist-next


its in ~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf

my subtitles settings there work
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What tscale should I be using for minimum interpolation blur?

Also I know this is subjective, but do you guys prefer interpolation or not?
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>>54389046
input.conf
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>>54389100
THANKS!
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>>54388721
>mpv is bestest media player!!!
Can't play dvd correctly.
>mpv does not support DVD menus.
Source: https://mpv.io
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Is mpv still the king of visual quality? I've heard madVR and MPDN are improving rapidly in those departments.
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>>54389151
No one liked DVD menus. My favourite hardware DVD player (from back when DVDs were a thing) was one that skipped all the menus and just played the longest title.

As far as I know, the devs are fine with re-adding menu support, as long as someone cares enough to write a patch, which no one has yet.
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Is latest build already fixed the bug about can't do screenshot if using dxinterop?
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So, can someone direct me on how to add the preset into mpc? I installed CCCP and MPC and am trying to add the low preset without any interpolation as I am a poorfag with an integrated gpu and am pissed off at the ridculous load times with VLC.
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>>54389191
will never be fixed
use
hwdec=no
or
hwdec=dxva2-copy
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>>54388213
https://kawaii.imo.uto.moe/
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>>54381227
Any presets for linux?
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>>54390481
Just remove "backend=dxinterop".
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>>54390531
I'm getting
[vo] Video output opengl not found!
Error opening/initializing the VO window.


what to do? I have mesa installed.
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>>54389172
Dvd menus aren't really an issue with feature length movies, I'll give you that. However, it is an issue on episode box sets. Apparently, the second episode on a disc was the longest so mpv merrily skipped the first then had no way to navigate to any of the other episodes.
For a player thats held so highly as "plays everything beautifully", it sure drops the proverbial ball on such a standard format.
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Can someone who streams from a NAS post their config?

I'm trying to get the cache and buffering right
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>>54389191
just use your OS print screen functionality, it is better anyway since it is more accurate
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>>54388535
haasn the madman!
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>>54381365
Kodi is so insane with sonarr and couchpotato. Download everything rename it download covers,integrate with trakt or stream it from a torrent. Shit is the reason I wont get netflix.
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>>54388535
post log/file
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>>54389095
>What tscale should I be using for minimum interpolation blur?
tscale=nearest :^)

>Also I know this is subjective, but do you guys prefer interpolation or not?
I can't watch videos without it anymore. Judder is eye-melting.

Reminder that “interpolation off” is just a different way of saying “interpolation on but tscale = nearest”.

So the question you're asking is “do you prefer mitchell or nearest neighbour”, and the latter just has horrible judder (= temporal aliasing).
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>>54390597
Compile mpv with OpenGL headers in place

>>54392970
Actually don't, just remove the ‘WIP’ commit at the end. That one is completely broken
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>>54389095
Oversample or Mitchell with clamp
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>>54391111
most episode dvd's i've come across have a "play all" title which links to all episodes, and is naturally the longest title

pic related, opened with "mpv dvdnav://longest"
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>>54393101
he said "minimum", so at least catmull_rom instead of mitchell
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>>54381227
Holy shit, mpv does interpolation? Is this like those 120hz tvs that add frames between the frames?

wish I could enable this shit for XBMC/Kodi
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>>54393171
that's not referring to that type of interpolation, and mpv doesn't do what you're referring to itself, but it can be done using vapoursynth/mvtools with mpv
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>>54381365
>>54392902
I use SickRage instead of Sonarr. Sonarr couldn't search IPT which made it pretty much a no-go.

Any advantages to Sonarr over SickRage that I should know about?

>>54383160
is it actively developed? I remember it from ages ago
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>>54393201
>mvtools with mpv
thanks for the heads up, is it hard to configure/set up? It's mostly a novelty for me as it doesn't look good in a lot of action movies IMO, mostly good for nature docus and such
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I swear the "presets" posted get worse with every thread.
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>>54393171
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/Interpolation
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>>54393929
is this just a vaguely informational page? interesting but not useful
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>>54393972
It's just meant to give people enough information to understand what the difference is between mpv-style “interpolation” the type they know from SVP/TVs etc.
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why do i get this
[ffmpeg] tls: Failed to read handshake response
error and mpv crashes when i try to stream some file by using the direct link on windows but with debian it just werks
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Are there any screenshot examples of the differences in settings?

Does ewa_lanczos really look good?
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>>54396461
like lanczos, but without aliasing
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>>54396461
https://github.com/haasn/mpvhq-upscalers
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Pfff interpolation is just a dumb copy of madVR's smoothmotion.

It will not work like madVR's smoothmotion because mpv is based on opengl shit.
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>>54396917
MPVs interpolation is superior to smoothmotion
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>>54398072
Nah smoothmotion is much better.
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help to this idiot here

installed subliminal
but how do you use it? bindsym b for downloading subtitle but of course when i press "b" it it says subtitle download failed. What/which config should edit and how?
>putting locaiton of autload.lua to /.config/mpv/input.conf does nothing
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>>54381227
I'm trying to watch a DVD with "mpv dvd://". I can watch it, but the subtitles don't appear even though there's subtitle options. What should I do?
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>>54398874
Also everytime i skip foward i get the error "[ffmpeg/audio] ac3: frame sync error
Error decoding audio.
"
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> shitty only for doubling nnedi3
> no fancy filters
> dumb anti-ringing
> devs with superiority complex
> oldish opengl only
> exists because it's maintained by a plex employee
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Windows users want gui and fancy filters, so mpv is not suitable...

Ranpha has just upgraded (05/05/16) his installers with new mpc-hc builds.

Ranpha's full guide:
http://wp.me/PrgSo-gQ

Ranpha's awesome installers:
https://imouto.my/download/lav-filters-megamix-x64/
https://imouto.my/download/lav-filters-megamix-32-bit/
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Actually mpv is not a player for windows 10.

I have tons of vsync issues even with angle.
I have stuttering with interpolation, I tried any tscale options.
I have 3x GPU usage than with madVR for "same" settings.
I also have some weird issue with madVR however it's usable.
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backend=angle or backend=dxinterop
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mpv + youtube-dl + stremio = awesomeness
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>>54399200
> oldish opengl only
I think you're confusing mpv with MPlayer
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>>54399619
>>54399931
How much does Microsoft pay you? I hope you aren't doing this for free
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>>54400567
>stremio
What is this? They have some shitty web 3.0 page with no information
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>>54398823
mpv is working as intended with subliminal if it shows the status of the download, the problem is with subliminal
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>>54401357
Seems like some sort of shitty web 3.0 service for delivering low-quality versions of low-quality shows
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>>54393146
mpv's default is to play the longest track.
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>>54402474
So what's the best streaming program?
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>>54404693
mpv
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Is color management enabled by default and if it is how can I disable it?
I want all my animus to be as wide gamut as my display allows.

>>54399931
That's not an mpv but w10 issue, I had tearing even when scrolling or moving regular windows.
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>>54400249
dxinterop if your drivers play nice with it
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>>54404887
>Is color management enabled by default and if it is how can I disable it?
It isn't
>I want all my animus to be as wide gamut as my display allows.
That's not how it works, but if you want to watch stuff oversaturated then the defaults are fine
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>>54405088
>That's not how it works, but if you want to watch stuff oversaturated then the defaults are fine
I have AdobeRGB display and never watch movies on PC
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>>54405077
It destroyed my computer, seriously.
I got blue screen, reboot, black screen with noisy fan. :\
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muh config

# Video settings
vo=opengl-hq:tscale=oversample:tscale-clamp:scaler-resizes-only:temporal-dither:swapinterval=1:interpolation:blend-subtitles=yes
video-sync=display-resample # Keep audio in sync with the video by resampling the audio to match the video [required for interpolation]
hwdec=no # Most video filters will not work with hardware decoding
framedrop=no

# Audio settings
audio-channels=stereo
alang=jp,jpn,Japanese,en,eng,English
audio-pitch-correction=yes
volume=100

# Cache settings
cache=yes
cache-default=2097152
cache-backbuffer=1048576
cache-seek-min=1024
cache-file=TMP
cache-file-size=3145728
cache-secs=10
demuxer-thread=yes
demuxer-readahead-secs=30

# Subtitle settings
slang=en,eng,English
sub-auto=fuzzy # Load all additional subtitle files which contain the media filename
ass-force-style=Kerning=yes # Force kerning on proportional subtitle fonts
demuxer-mkv-subtitle-preroll=index # Try to show subs at seek point

# Animu-like styling for unstyled subs
sub-text-font="Source Sans Pro Semibold"
sub-text-font-size=54
sub-text-margin-y=36
sub-text-color="#ffffffff"
sub-text-border-color="#ff262626"
sub-text-border-size=3.2
sub-text-shadow-offset=1
sub-text-shadow-color="#33000000"
sub-text-spacing=0.5

# Screenshot settings
screenshot-format=png
screenshot-png-compression=9
screenshot-template="~/%F[%P]_[%td.%tm.%tY][%tH:%tM:%tS]"
screenshot-high-bit-depth=no # "yes" triggers writing 16 bit PNGs with ~10MB file sizes

# OSC style
script-opts=osc-layout=bottombar

# OSD style
osd-bar=no
osd-font='Helvetica Neue:style=Light'
osd-font-size=45
osd-border-size=1
osd-color='#fdfdfd'
osd-border-color='#6b6b70'

# Window position & maximum size
geometry=50%:50%
autofit-larger=100%

# Disable screensaver
stop-screensaver=yes

# Enable streaming via youtube-dl
ytdl
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I don't need much of a GUI but I use

script-opts=osc-layout=bottombar


I mean it looks better in my opinion. Not so intrusive.
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>>54405592
Slim your shit down
scaler-resizes-only: now is default
swapinterval=1: is default
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>>54406263
Thanks for pointing those out. I trimmed it down a lot the other day when I switched from opengl to opengl-hq. Before it was:
vo=opengl:scale=spline36:cscale=spline36:dscale=mitchell:tscale=oversample:tscale-clamp:scaler-resizes-only:dither-depth=auto:temporal-dither:swapinterval=1:correct-downscaling:sigmoid-upscaling:deband:interpolation:es=no:blend-subtitles=yes


Is there a list of defaults somewhere that I could just CTRL+F through to check which of my options are redundant?
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>>54406360
MAN pages usually note the default value
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/DOCS/man/vo.rst
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>>54406424
Got rid of "audio-pitch-correction=yes" too. Everything else seems to be non-default though.
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>>54406221
I use it for the same reason. The default pseudo-gui is way too big.

The only problem with the bottombar layout is that it's fucking shit with low-res videos (e.g. webms).
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What do you think about this pretty laptop for mpv with interpolation, ewa_lanczos, 60fps, 4k, ...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-G501JW-Notebook-Review.141745.0.html
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Which is the best for win7?
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>>54404887
>I want all my animus to be as wide gamut as my display allows.
If you want to do this while also maintaining at least some semblance of colorimetric accuracy and reasonable tone curves, the best thing would be to create a perceptual ICC profile which embeds the transformation from BT.709 to your monitor's color space, then use this in mpv.

By saturation-mapping you are not just expanding the colors but you are also distorting all of the relations, e.g. grass might look more like blueish-green than yellowish-green, for example.
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>>54405243
You could also use something like
target-prim=adobe:target-trc=gamma2.2:icc-intent=2
if you still want gamma mapping.

(icc-intent=2 will do saturation mapping internally)
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Why nobody told me haasn revamped superxbr? It is semi decent now
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>>54408446
it's still shit
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>>54388873
Did you enabled blend-subtitle?

"The downside of enabling this is that it restricts subtitles to the visible portion of the video, so you can't have subtitles exist in the black margins below a video (for example)."
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I have a weird problem, wondering if anyone experienced this.
When I open a file, it opens a few second in, different for every file. For example for FMA which is 720p BD FLAC it to around 6 seconds, for some other files to 3, and some 1, so I keep having to putting it back to the beginning every time

it's on Arch with Cinnamon, proprietary nvidia graphics, gtx 770

config:
# Video settings
#vo=opengl-hq:backend=dxinterop:interpolation
vo=opengl-hq:scale=ewa_lanczossharp:cscale=ewa_lanczossoft:interpolation
video-sync=display-resample
hwdec=auto
framedrop=vo
vf=gradfun

# window
title="${filename}"
geometry=50%:50%
autofit-larger=90%x90%

# Audio settings
softvol=yes
softvol-max=150
volume=70

# Lang Settings
slang=eng,en
alang=jpn,jp,ja,eng,en

# Subtitle settings
ass-style-override=force
ass-shaper=simple
sub-auto=fuzzy
sub-text-font-size=49
sub-text-color="#FFFFFF"
sub-text-font="Noto Sans"
sub-text-border-size=3
sub-text-border-color="#262626"
ass-force-style=Kerning=yes

# OSC settings
script-opts=osc-layout=box,osc-seekbarstyle=bar,osc-timetotal=yes,osc-fadeduration=100,osc-scalewindowed=0.7,osc-scalefullscreen=0.5,osc-deadzonesize=1,osc-valign=1,osc-halign=1.0
#Default valign=0.8, halign=0.0

# OSD settings
osd-scale=0.5

# Screenshot settings
screenshot-format=jpg
screenshot-template="%F_mpv-snapshot_%wM.%wS_%#02n"
screenshot-jpeg-quality=95

# YDL settings (get youtube-dl for streaming support)
ytdl=yes
ytdl-format=(bestvideo[ext=webm]/bestvideo[height>720]/bestvideo[fps=60])[tbr<13000]+(bestaudio[acodec=opus]/bestaudio[ext=webm]/bestaudio)/best

# Miscellaneous settings
priority=abovenormal
keep-open=yes


# Etc
[extension.webm]
loop-file=inf

[extension.jpg]
pause

[extension.png]
pause

[extension.gif]
loop-file=inf
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>>54410571
Does it happen with an empty config? If not diagnose by removing everything and add one line at a time then retest.
Btw vf=gradfun is deprecated, opengl-hq has debanding enabled by default
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>>54381227
Why hwdec=no and blend-subtitles?
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>>54410764
He's dumb as fuck that's why
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>>54410742
well somehow it's fixed now, I disabled the config, it worked fine, enabled it again and only removed the line you said is deprecated and now it seems to work

weird
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>>54410825
vf filters are SLOW as FUCK, not surprised.
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>>54410840
thanks for letting me know, seems to work fine now even on 1080pBD FLAC
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>>54410764
>>54410823
Hwdec is useless for decent computers.
And this is the haasn's configuration:
https://github.com/haasn/gentoo-conf/blob/nanodesu/home/nand/.mpv/mpv.conf
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>>54410764
blend-subtitles is pretty much required if you use interpolation on weeb shit, otherwise typeset subtitles are gonna bleed all over the place.
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Why prescaling with superxbr or nnedi3 only if they are shits?
Why not ewa_lanczos or spline36?
Some avisynth scripts use jinc and spline to do similar processing.
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>>54381227
How do I change video quality when watching YouTube on MPV?
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>>54413188

I'd also like to know this, and how to enable annotations.
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>>54413188
you can change the quality, but not during playback

>>54413209
i don't think annotations are supported (and i'd say it's unlikely they will be, they'd be a lot of work for little gain)
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There is a difference using a 60hz monitor with interpolation and a 48hz monitor without interpolation? Which one should i use?
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>>54412308
But why turn it on in the non-interpolation presets?
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>>54407576
The 960M isn't fast enough for ewa_lanczos at 4K60p, it should be fast enough for 4K30p, and it should do fine for the non ewa scalers
I doubt it could do NNEDI3, it might be able to do super-xbr at 4K
>>54407729
mpv, otherwise MPC-HC+madvr if your drivers are bad, if you have a toaster and bad drivers pure MPC-HC should be fine
>>54412469
>Why prescaling with superxbr or nnedi3 only if they are shits?
Both can only do doubling, they can't scale to arbitrary resolutions, that's why the community is calling them pre-scalers, since you still need a scaler to downsize/upsize the stuff to fit your screen
lanczos and spline can scale to any arbitrary size
>Why not ewa_lanczos or spline36?
>Some avisynth scripts use jinc and spline to do similar processing.
There's a lot of avisynth scripts doing all kinds of weird convoluted crap
>>54407729
MPDN is literally a meme
>>54408446
Most people here dislike oil paintings
>>54410764
hwdec affects performance negatively in pretty much every card, the only reason to use it is for battery saving
It can also fuck up bad encodes
>>54414563
Because blend-subtitles also allows subtitles to be color managed, which means that weeb signs will have the colors of the things they're supposed to replace
>>54414517
48 without interpolation if you only watch 23.976/24/25 fps content
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>>54414969
>Because blend-subtitles also allows subtitles to be color managed, which means that weeb signs will have the colors of the things they're supposed to replace
But your preset doesn't even have color management enabled
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>960M isn't fast enough for ewa_lanczos at 4K60
>It should be fast enough for 4K30

What's the "best" vo line for 4K60 for this graphic card?
Is there a way to fallback to a lower preset if there are too many dropped frames?
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>>54415185
>What's the "best" vo line for 4K60 for this graphic card?
opengl-hq should do just fine, I would use opengl-hq:icc-profile-auto for muh color management
>Is there a way to fallback to a lower preset if there are too many dropped frames?
No, but you can set profiles to activate depending on the framerate/resolution of your content, anyways, the improvement from ewa_lanczos isn't much, just stick to opengl-hq
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Should I wait for new gpu?
Do you know if better algorithms exist/will be implemented?
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>>54415301
>Should I wait for new gpu?
Not for mpv, yes for everything else, the new gen is a massive jump
>Do you know if better algorithms exist/will be implemented?
There's not much to improve, the newest things will be improvements to the user shaders, which means you can get stuff like SuperRes and SSIMDownscaling
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Is this project similar to libmpv?
https://github.com/wang-bin/QtAV
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>>54414969
>Most people here dislike oil paintings
Is superxbr worth using if your hardware isn't good enough to use anything better? Or are you better off not using a prescaler at all in that case?
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>>54415339
>Not for mpv
Is that because the CPU is more important for mpv?
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First off, I'm pretty illiterate about this stuff, so I'm sorry.
I have a shitty five year old laptop. I use the low preset without interpolation. I experience "choppy" playback, especially when playing large files, and especially noticeable during panning shots. I think this is what people refer to as "frame dropping", but I'm not sure. It's just not very smooth. I used to use MPC-HC and it was even worse, mpv is much better but it's still noticeable. What can I do to fix this? I don't mind sacrificing some quality as long as I have smooth playback.
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>>54416260

Short of re-encoding your files to lower resolution/bitrate with a format that is lighter to decode, not much.
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>>54416309
Oh well. Thanks anyway.
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>>54416176
No
But most GPU's can manage mpv just fine, only 4K@60p would need something like a 290X/980
Most recentish cards should do 1080@60p just fine, even with ewa_lanczos
Though NNEDI3 would tax most cards
>>54416260
Can you post the specs of your laptop? A 5 year old laptop should be fast enough
Also, can you start mpv from the command line? It can report dropped frames from there
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>>54416260
>I experience "choppy" playback, especially when playing large files, and especially noticeable during panning shots.
No no no. This has nothing to do with dropping frames.

You're just experiencing the glory that is 24 Hz video.
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>>54416260
>>54416409
Try both of these clips

https://red.cachefly.net/learn/panning-24fps-180.mp4
https://red.cachefly.net/learn/panning-60fps-180.mp4

If the first one is choppy as hell but the second one is perfectly smooth, your issue is unrelated to performance.
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>>54416405
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>>54416455
That should be fast enough for no dropped frames, >>54416409 Is right, that's the glory from 24 hz video
You can try interpolation and see if you get less judder
Or MPC-HC with madVR and smoothmotion enabled
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>>54416444
Wow, you're exactly right, the second one was perfectly smooth. What is this wizardry?
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>>54416513
vo=opengl:interpolation:tscale=mitchell
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>>54416513
>Wow, you're exactly right, the second one was perfectly smooth. What is this wizardry?
Your display is almost certainly 60 Hz

The second video is a 60 Hz clip. 1 video frame = 1 display frame. Every frame is shown for the same amount of time.

The first video is 24 Hz. 24 Hz is not a clean divisor of 60 Hz, which is a big problem. By default, all media players will just alternate between showing frames for 2 or 3 vsyncs (this averages out to 2.5 = 60/24).

But your brain picks up on the fact that frames are shown for different durations (it's almost like the motion is rocking back and forth), which is very unpleasant.

In addition to this, 24 Hz is so low to begin with that it visibly stutters even on a display that *is* a multiple of 24 Hz.

The combination of these two horrible, eye-melting effects is known as the CINEMATIC EXPERIENCE.

http://0x0.st/Z7K.mkv
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>>54416646
Very informative, thanks
>>54416571
Just tried this and tested it with a 720p rip of a movie, the judder (that's the correct term?) is much less noticeable. Amazing!

Although I must say, when I play a .mkv file on my TV by directly playing it from a flash drive connected to it, the judder is much less noticeable. Does that mean my TV is 48hz or something?
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>>54416727

Your tv may have motion compensation (one of those 100/200/400/800hz buzzwords).
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>>54416812
I see, cool.
Thanks again, everyone.
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>>54416727
>Although I must say, when I play a .mkv file on my TV by directly playing it from a flash drive connected to it, the judder is much less noticeable. Does that mean my TV is 48hz or something?
Most modern TV's have >>54416812, though most of them can "run" at 24 hz
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>>54416405
The manual says that all the scalers and such are implemented on the CPU though.
>Most video filters will not work with hardware decoding as they are primarily implemented on the CPU.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, this seems to suggest that having a good CPU is a lot more important when it comes to what you scalers you can and can't use.
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>>54417197
That's video filters used through lavfi
The opengl renderer uses the GPU to do scaling/filtering/color management

So no, a good CPU isn't neccesary, lavfi stuff is really old
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>>54416646
>http://0x0.st/Z7K.mkv
Not the laptop guy, but this judders pretty bad for me even though I have interpolation enabled. What's up with that?

The 60fps clip >>54416444 posted is perfectly smooth, on the other hand. Even the 24fps one isn't too bad.
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>>54417273
>The opengl renderer uses the GPU to do scaling/filtering/color management
Oh, thanks for clearing that up. I thought it was weird that the CPU would be used.

That said, I'm now a little confused. I have an Nvidia GTX-650Ti BOOST which I would've thought should be able to handle scalers better than spline36, but whenever I tried using those I was having massive desynchronisation problems (the video stream would gradually lag out of sync, then all of a sudden a ton of frames would get thrown up in fast-forward which I guess was mpv trying to catch up with the audio).

By the way, is there any way to know which filters are the lavfi ones?
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>>54417349
I think it's supposed to judder, as an example.
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>>54417519
>By the way, is there any way to know which filters are the lavfi ones?
Check ffmpeg documentation
spline36 is good, just stick with it, you aren't getting anything better through lavfi
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>>54381299

>server not encountered
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>>54381227
>Only windows builds
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>>54417666
So there are only 3 options which seemingly nobody even uses? Why does haasn say in the manual that "MOST video filters will not work with hardware decoding as they are primarily implemented on the CPU"?

...is what I was about to post, but I just realised my mistake. By video filters, he's referring to the "vf=" stuff, not scalers and the like. Is this a case of bad wording, or is it my fault that I misunderstood this?
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>>54414969
>hwdec affects performance negatively in pretty much every card, the only reason to use it is for battery saving
>It can also fuck up bad encodes
Why would this be the case?
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>>54418774

Because it uses different decoding code, which isn't as accurate.
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>>54417924
>So there are only 3 options which seemingly nobody even uses?
No, that's not the stuff, it's this
https://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-filters.html#Video-Filters
>Why does haasn say in the manual that "MOST video filters will not work with hardware decoding as they are primarily implemented on the CPU"?
Because some of those might not work, hardware decoding uses other rendering path that makes the ffmpeg filters unusable
>>54418774
>Why would this be the case?
Performance wise some GPU's use shaders to decode, hwdec can also consume more memory bandwidth, specially in the case of dxva2-copy
They use much more fixed code to decode, usually implemented in ASIC's, so it can't be as flexible as software decoding
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>>54416727
>Although I must say, when I play a .mkv file on my TV by directly playing it from a flash drive connected to it, the judder is much less noticeable. Does that mean my TV is 48hz or something?
Your TV can probably display a multiple of 24 Hz natively, yes. (Otherwise it's an exceptionally ill-designed TV)

60 Hz is mostly a PC monitor thing.

Oh btw, :interpolation in modern mpv only works if you also enable
video-sync=display-resample
, otherwise it's just placebo.

I hope you did that.
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>>54417349
>What's up with that?
1. Interpolation could be turned on but ineffective. (It requires video-sync, for starters)
2. Your hardware could be too slow to provide interpolation properly.
3. Your hardware could be fine but your windowing system / compositor / graphics API stack could provide inaccurate vsyncs or missed frames.
4. The source could be bad to begin with. (For this clip it isn't)
5. It's working as intended and you're confused about how smooth the expected result should be. (Interpolation can't magically eliminate stutter from the low-FPS source. It can only eliminate judder caused by display mismatch)

many different things, I can't read your mind nor view your display
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How the fuck do I sharpen the image? For both downscaling and upscaling. Sorry for being illiterate
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>>54420442
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/User-Scripts#pixel-shaders
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>>54388031
What's wrong with them?
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Why exactly ANGLE has been removed from official windows builds?
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>>54420556
Do these shaders need a lot of GPU power? And with "a lot" I mean "I'm on a Intel HD300, will my laptop fry?". Debanding added a pretty hefty hit to performance.
Can't test currently, not at home.
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>>54422408
FineSharp should work.
Or One-Pass Adaptive Sharpen with ANGLE.
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>>54422440
Adaptive Sharpen needs a much better GPU than Intel HD3000.
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>>54422389
Because ANGLE always break compilation & lachs0r too lazy to fix it..

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpv-player-windows/files
^ this exactly same script lachs0r used to build mpv for windows + ANGLE
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>>54422560
nope, it works on HD3000 with ANGLE (720p screen)
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Are there FineSharp and Adaptive Sharpen comparisons?
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>>54422625
Are you serious? Even my 10 year-old television is 1080p!

We are in 2016!
We have high speed internet, 4k netflix, 1080p 4 inches smartphones, ...
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>>54416646
My display is 144hz and 24hz video still judders like mad

tried on mpc, mpv, mpdn
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>>54422922
are you using "video-sync=display-resample"
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>>54422932
yes, on windows 7
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>>54422922
What, why? 144 is cleanly divided by 24?
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>>54422975
must be something funky going on
like in that video it looks like the main three is shaking (among other things)
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>>54422975
144/24=6

>>54422959
do you understand that having a 144Hz monitor won't make video smoother than the source?
are you comparing to a TV that has built in motion interpolation?

24Hz video is not smooth, without motion interpolation the best you can do is avoid jitter (uneven frame times)
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>>54422916
Intel HD Graphics 3000 is a mobile GPU from 2010
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>>54423001
so the mpv motion interpolation won't be better than a tv built in one?
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>>54423017
mpv doesn't have built in motion interpolation
mpv's "interpolation" is a basic frame-blending method, it reduces apparent jitter when using the wrong refresh rate, it can't make the video appear smoother than the source
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>>54423035
oh
welp time to test out my tv
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which distro is more updated, ubuntu or fedora?
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kodi 17 new ui makes my dick hard.
heard some things happened with addon restrictiosn though.
will i still be able to use stuff from tvaddons?
specifically the primewire and livetv addons and the ones that save original files as you watch?
i usually use showsrage with plex and just stream that way but i wanna make a dedicated htpc build complete with remote and input for a/v, scart, htmi and basic cable.
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How to make igv's SuperRes working with mpv?
Why is it only working with prescale?
On madVR, it works as post upscaler or as chroma enhancer.
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>>54423001
>144/24=6
That's what I wanted to say. There should be no jitter and mpv (without vapoursynth + mvtools or SVP) can only remove jitter, just like madVR.
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>>54423118
you need to upstream with haasn's user_scripts branch
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>>54423125
right, you should get no jitter, and you don't need "interpolation" enabled

however, you're still only drawing 24 frames each second, so you'll still have the judder from that
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>>54423118
>On madVR, it works as post upscaler or as chroma enhancer.
SuperRes and SuperChromaRes are different shaders.
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>>54423149
>however, you're still only drawing 24 frames each second, so you'll still have the judder from that
You don't have "judder" from that as in this scenario there's no judder anymore (by definition).
The stutter you are experiencing is pretty much "not having the soap opera effect" which so many ppl prefer.
mpv's interpolation and madVRs smoothmotion counter judder, not stutter. To get the soap opera effect (and rid of the stutter you see) you need motion compensation/interpolation with MVTools or SVP.
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>>54423192
So igv's SuperRes != Shiandow's SuperRes != Shiandow's SuperChromaRes?
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>>54423118
>Why is it only working with prescale?
API limitations
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>using windows
>get memed in to using msys2 because "it's better to use mpv from there"
>msys unpacks fucking arch base on my hdd
>*seems overkill*
>finally update this cli trash
>pacman -s mingw-64-mpv
>wants to installk 300mb of shit

nuked that shit asap.
Are the srsfckin and bitbucket builds okay to use or was I just meeded in to msys2 by some shill?
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Is there a way to display codec information on the OSD?
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>>54381299
>madVR high-end preset for high-end GPUs such as AMD Fury X or Titan
>mid-end for 380 and 960
So where is the preset for 970/980? Those aren't midrange or titan-tier cards.
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>>54423761
>300mb
>a lot
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>>54424162
It is... 300mb plus entire arch base system to run a fucking media player is fucking retarded. I installed the bitbuket build anyway and it's run just fine and has my assosiation for files so w/e.
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>>54424162
What is this, fucking iTunes?
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>>54424203
>installs windows
>complains about 300Mb
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>>54423974
It's a dummy video renderer not a video game!
You don't need such a GPU to watch your pirated shits.
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>>54424225
are you mentally ill? or just the arch/msys shill in defence mode?
windows isn't a standalone media player it's an entire os with applications and 25 years binary compatibility.

bototh the srsbiz an bitbuket build are like 25mb.
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>>54423844
hello pls halp

this is really important
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Damn madshi is working on "algorithms and stuffs". :D
What the hell is he inventing? :D

Damn I still don't know why he doesn't make madvr open source.
Even if his code is hideous, I think he should open source it.
I really like to see mpv development progress on github.
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Is there a real advantage to use mpv when I already use kodi?
I don't have any judder with display framerate switcher.
Kodi has spline36 scalers and good hwdec too.
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When?
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>>54424509
>>54407729
>>54387596
Can somebody explain this kind of shitpost? Is it all the same retard?
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welp I just switched to my lg tv
HOLY SHIT NO JUDDER

even at 60hz it smooths it out by default
monitors are shit tier
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>>54399619

Both links off.
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>>54423761
You only need msys2 if you're going to compile git master of some third-party front end. Just use the mpv.srsfckn.biz.
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>>54424638
>Can somebody explain this kind of shitpost? Is it all the same retard?
It's some kind of guy who thinks his images are good so he reports them all the time but nobody every jumps at it, everybody ignores it so he keeps reposting this ugly shit.
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>>54389172
>mpv doesn't have this basic functionality that's been around for over a decade
>you don't need that useless shit anyways!
freetards, everyone.
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>>54425298
mpv is mplayer2 with legacy stuff taken out
if you want dvd menus, use mplayer/mplayer2
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>>54424203
>>54424206
I have single videos that are 3gb
Rust itself is 300mb as well
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>>54425298
Since when are PC video players obligated to support DVD menus? If you play physical DVDs, mpv is not the player for you. Use VLC, Windows Media Player or whatever meme shit came with your DVD drive (PowerDVD?)
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>>54423761
If someone told you that you needed MSYS2 to use mpv, you got memed. MSYS2 is only useful for compiling mpv from source. Using MSYS2 for playing videos in mpv is actually slightly worse than doing it the normal way because of incompatibilities between MSYS2 terminals and Windows consoles, only the latter of which mpv was designed to be used in.

>Are the srsfckin and bitbucket builds okay
srsfckn.biz builds are okay. They're made by mpv's release manager. The mpv-for-windows ones are probably okay. I've never used them, but a lot of people here do.

>>54424203
>arch base system
Not quite. MSYS2 uses Arch's package manager, but that's where the similarities end. It installed what is essentially a Cygwin base system.
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>>54423844
>>54424353
There's a plugin for it: https://github.com/Argon-/mpv-stats/
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>>54425722
>more freetard damage control

>VLC, Windows Media Player
Well done for proving your point retard. The the plebbest players are able to show DVD menus.
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>>54381479
>He watches a kid movie
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>>54425882
>damage control
I use mpv, but I'll admit, it's shit for DVDs (Blu-rays too.) The devs don't care about physical media at all. No one is maintaining the DVD and Blu-ray code and the latest bout of code rot is what killed menu support (mpv used to have it.) At one point the devs threatened to remove DVD support entirely, but complaints from one particularly obnoxious user resulted in them keeping it in its crippled state.

If you care about physical media, please do not use mpv.

>The the plebbest players are able to show DVD menus.
What are you shilling then? I can't remember if MPC-HC supports DVD menus. If you already have something that plays DVDs, you should just use it, rather than shitposting here.
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>>54425298
>>54425882
MPC-HC is freetard software
VLC is freetard software
ffmpeg is freetard software
lavfilters is freetard software
matroska is freetard software

You can't escape the freetards wincuck.
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>>54424661
Probably because of lg's trumotion.
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>>54426138
And you can't escape the proprietary drivers commie.
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>>54426286
Already did though. The thing I can't escape are proprietary firmware.
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>>54426313
>Already did though.
I believe you.
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>>54426344
Good for you, lad. Enjoy the thread.
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Wincuck here. Where do I put the mpv.conf file in here? Tried /appdata/roaming/mpv, but the settings don't seem to have any effect
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>>54427022
https://mpv.io/manual/master/#files-on-windows
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>>54424366
>inventing
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>>54382170
go to your search bar, put %appdata%\mpv

Make sure that when you save mpv.conf file, doesn't save it as an txt document.
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>>54422408
>Debanding added a pretty hefty hit to performance.
Try setting
deband-iterations=1:deband-range=32
or so. That should make debanding much cheaper. (Might want to play around with the deband-range afterwards)
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>>54423017
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/Interpolation
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>>54423467
“SuperRes” is just a name people throw on garbage to make it look attractive. After all, who wouldn't want something that's SUPER?

You can tell a filter is actually good when its name doesn't need “super” to convince people to use it. (e.g. jinc)
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how do i make a stitched screenshot?
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>>54430183
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