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Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
If you dislike a headphone suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, brand x sucks"

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Previous thread: >>54360318
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what's subjectively the best frequency response?

I see a lot of people have different preferences on frequency responses, a lot of people love the audio quest night hawks even though they are a bit uneven in the frequency response. Is there a consensus?
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>>54379797
>what's subjectively the best frequency response?
Whatever you find the most enjoyable.
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Is there any other alternative to a FiiO E5 or E6? I need one for my Ruizu X02 because I need more bass. I can't use EQ because it makes it sound horrible.
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>>54379797
There's no consensus and never will be. For me it's flat with maybe some amount of sub bass boost. Harman target is kind of subjectively tuned target so headphones which follow that response closely would probably sound great to many people. Thing is people are used to all kinds of odd gear, can't listen, have very personal taste in music etc. It's impossible to find something that suits everyone the best.
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>>54379797
perfectly flat then EQ to your taste

otherwise
>subjective
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>>54379859
I don't see how taste in music would affect the frequency preference. There are people who love EDM that actually prefer brightness over warmth and others are the complete opposite.

>>54379797
In theory flat should be the perfect frequency response. You'd listen to every instrument, every sound, exactly like the way it was recorded, exactly the way the artist was listening to while recording.
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>>54379797
Don't really care to be honest as long as it's sorta flat, doesn't distort and the stereo imaging works
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Does anybody here have the DT770 Pros? Could you please check if they would fit someone with ears that are about 2.7in (7cm) high?
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>>54379992
That's an odd request, I've never measured mine.
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got the x2s for $100
stack for $120 + $18 shipping
how'd i do /g/
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Closed or Open preference for general use desktop?
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>>54380012
where from?
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>>54380012

An amp does literally nothing for the X2's you wasted your money.
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>>54379908
>don't see how taste in music would affect the frequency preference.
Of course not in a way that could be generalized to a specific genre in a fixed manner like the dumb "you need bassy headphones for EDM".
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>>54380012
That's a pretty good deal, especially on the X2s. The amp was not necessary though.

>>54380022
Need privacy/isolation? Closed.
Otherwise? Open
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>>54380012
That's a great price. I'm jelly.
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>>54380012
Sounds like good deals.

>>54380022
Open unless you really want to have isolation.
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>Budget
80 - 100 USD
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop, Smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
Headset, one jack
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
6+ hours of work, 3+ hours of gaming in desktop
>Preferred music
Alternative rock, progressive
>Past headphones
Peasant Sony's MDR studio shit...

let's try again
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>>54380012
why do people hate on the X2s when tyll and zeos loves them?
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>>54380075
Z is retarded
Tyll actually removed them from the hall of fame. He realized that they actually don't sound that great
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>>54380026
x2s craigslist
stack ebay
>>54380027
i tend to bounce around on headphones, figured a stack would be good to have when I find more deals
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>>54380074
HyperX Cloud is the only acceptable option. They come with a dual 3-pole jack to single 4-pole jack adapter.
Don't get the Cloud II, the "7.1 surround" is bullshit and not worth the extra 30 bucks unless you really really like the colors it comes in or something.
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>>54380105
And between them and K551?
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>>54380097
>craigslist
Why is my STOLEN flag waving like mad?
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>Budget
120 us dollars and bellow
>Location
USA CA
>Source
on my desktop and my s5 occasionally
>Preferred type of headphone
Closed, full headphone
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
2 comfy 4 me or decent
>Preferred tonal balance
Listen to a lot of queen and instrumentals so something with moderate to low bass and not to bright
>Preferred music
QUEEN
>Past headphones
Some horseshit headset

Considering the at ath ad 700x closed headphones maybe
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>>54380097
damn
I just actually picked up some new x2s from ebay (The seller offers a 30 day return policy) for 180 bucks thinking I got a good deal and you post your deal as I bought mine
I'm excited for them since they're my first open headphones and their sound is just what I'm looking for, and I can use them for gaming too with my vmoda boom mic
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>>54380138
guy i bought it from was a dorky looking kid that attended a local community college.
maybe he lifted them? apparently he didn't like that they were open back and wanted closed.
still, i'm not going to argue $100 pre-gibson x2s
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>>54380012
That scratch on the magni would bother me. I'd use touch up paint on it if it were mine.
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>>54380122
Depends on if you want a flatter, more neutral sound signature or a more V-shaped sound sig.

You asked for a headset though, so I gave you a headset option.
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>>54379908
>You'd listen to every instrument, every sound, exactly like the way it was recorded, exactly the way the artist was listening to while recording.
Here's the rub though, the artist never really hears the actual music as he's recording it, the producer does, and even then not in full until all the tracks for the song have been recorded and are being mixed - after they have gone through filters, vocal tuning, equalization and compression. The only exception to this rule is classical music, where you genuinely have all the musicians performing together in one room to a single recording setup.
And even with all that, the mastering engineer's job is to listen to the music on as many different types of audio devices as possible, from Apple ear buds to $100,000 full-range speakers to ensure it sounds good on all of them; using only one or two truly "flat" sources for judging the sound would be just as much of a mistake as relying on coloured sources.
If you believe that stuff like subjectivity doesn't exist in the studio, you'd be very wrong, often a lot of time is spent just spinning knobs (no one ever really knows what they all do) until you get something that sounds good, and you might not know how you even did it so you make damn sure to take notes. I could've very well stumbled upon a different but also nice-sounding effect, and it wouldn't have made it any more right or wrong.
So listen to whatever makes you happy, because that's how music is made.
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>>54380207
K551 has an inline mic as well
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>>54380273
I see. It comes down to your personal preference then, the K551 is more neutral whereas you may find the Cloud more "fun".
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>>54380325
Good! Thank you very much brah
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>>54380338
For extra comfort, you can add Brainwavz HM5 pads to the Cloud if you want. They're 20 bucks for the normal velour/pleather ones and 25 for the angled velour/pleather ones and the hybrids. Should still fit within your budget.
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It's sad that headphone shopping is usually like playing Russian Roulette and not like shopping for, like, shoes where you can try before you buy. Reviews and measurements is a good indicator of value but can only do so much to describe the product.
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>Budget
50 - 80 USD
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Headset, one jack
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
6-8 hours of use at a time
>Preferred music
Alternative rock, Pop/Synthpop
>Past headphones
Audio Technica ATH-AD700X
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>>54380375
Someone else, but
How would you say the comfort is for the K551?
Also whether or not it's a trash inline microphone or not.
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>>54380022
Open, unless i need isolation.
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>>54381172
Isolation as in room mate/ASMR use or just like traveling?
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This is HD800 thread now. Quick, post your beauty.
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When are we going to get a perfect audio transducer for fucks sake? I don't want to deal with muh subjective shit anymore.
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>>54381225
easily the most detail oriented headphones made. the hd600 don't even come close.
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>>54381232
we already have. they're called electro static headphones.
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>>54381222
Well, that depends i guess, i generally only go closed-back when traveling, i ride the bus a lot and go the the beach often, neighbors there are noisy as fuck in december.
Otherwise i go open-bac/semi-open, if it's a long travel i might even bring an open along with the closed in case i don't need isolation.
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>>54381225
Nah, I'll be over here enjoying my music, rather than jerking off over how clearly I can hear the drummer's chair creaking.
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>>54381394
I am trying to catch that high pitch fart actually.
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>>54381394
To be fair, if you can hear the drummer's chair creaking, it's probably fault of the production who A: Somehow recorded the chair
B: Let it slide during edition
I mean, assuming you are not listening to concrete music or some variant, in which case being able to listen to that chair could probably be the point of the whole thing.
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>>54380084
>tfw bought the Philips Fidelio X2 after reading Tyll Herstens' in depth review
>tfw he went as far as to say they were as good as the HD600
>tfw he goes on to say that the reason HD600 are kept up there is because they can be used on more powerful sources
>tfw he later redacts his statement after the release of the HE400s
>tfw he removes the X2s from his hall of fame after the damage is done and the X2s have achieved meme status.
>tfw he goes on to say that the HE400s sound better than the HD600 yet he keeps the HD600 in the hall of fame even though they're more expensive
>tfw he knocks down the X2s because the HE400s are smoother sounding and in the same price yet build quality is nowhere near X2 quality

WHICH IS IT YOU COCK HEAD.
Tyll is as bad as zeos saying the newest thing is the best thing ever. The only reason people follow his advice is because of his graphs.
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>Budget
£200
>Location
UK
>Source
iPhone/Essence STX
>Preferred type of headphone
Overear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy.jpg
>Preferred tonal balance
I'm mostly looking for a bassy experience, I want to feel that shit vibrating deep inside me (no homo). Think Dolby Atmos in cinemas. But without destroying the rest of the treble etc. I'm not good with headphone lexicon
>Preferred music
Pop, indie, acoustic, orchestral, whatever daft punk and Moby is
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD558 - very comfortable, loved the soundstage and clarity.
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>>54381921
>Think Dolby Atmos in cinemas.
You want an external subwoofer. You aren't going to get that with headphones.
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>>54381777
Trips of truth.
Always test the headphone Anon, always test the headphone.
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>>54380012
Fug, I was about to order some X2s this morning but the Amazon price jumped from £160 to £260 in a few hours, so mad. Also what is this Woox/Gibson thing.
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>>54379755
What's /g/'s opinion on the MEE Audio M6 Pro? I'm looking for an IEM, and they get good review on Amazon. If they're actually pretty shit (I plan to buy Comply ear tips), here's the form.

>Budget
50-100

>Location
US

>Source
2014 Retina MacBook Pro, Sansa Clip, iPhone 6S

>Preferred headphone
IEM

>Comfort level
Comply memory foam eartips

>Preferred tonal balance
Similar to the Sony MDR-7506, but I'm flexible with tonal balance because I'd prefer detail over a flat signature

>Preferred music
Everything but country

>Past headphones
Apple Earpods, Sony MDR-7506
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>>54382031
Momentum In Ear, SE215 or if you can pry another $20 from your wallet MA750.
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>>54380012
good price but getting Uber ver. is way better imo...
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>>54381938
Well yeah, I might be stretching a bit with that. Either way I don't really feel much oomph with my 558s, and I've become jaded at the build quality. I was thinking 650s might be a good step up, just not usable with the phone. Essence should be fine with its 600 ohm limit.
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A bit off-topic, but what are the girl's headphones in OP image?
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>>54382779
They are completely fictional. They even come with glasses with a HUD.
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>Budget
Around $100
>Location
Mexico
>Source
Moto G 2014, getting a portable amp soon
>Preferred type of headphone
Over the head
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Not too important
>Preferred tonal balance
V shaped or bassy
>Preferred music
Progressive Death Metal and J-Pop
>Past headphones
The first Beats Studio and some older Sony headphones.

I've been looking at the Audio Technica WS55 and Sennheiser 419 and 429.
Thanks in advance.
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>>54382980
AKG BL-W411.
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>>54380165
I bought a pair of of X2s for $230 CAD off ebay recently (compared to like $450 CAD new, our dollar/import taxes are ridiculous).

Extremely satisfied with them, great headphones.
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>>54382898
Oh, too bad they are not real. I even didn't notice the glasses were attached to the headphones. Oh well, thanks anyway.
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>>54383043
Google returned no results.
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>>54383150
Try AKG W3TBK.
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>>54383150
I'm pretty sure Anon is just screwing with you.
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>>54383255
Yeah, I noticed.
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>>54379797
harman, pretty much mildly warm, or dark, or bassy. basically bright is bad.
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>>54381777
I feel like he tries to rank the wall as if you could only buy one headphone and you don't have anything else.

if you don't want bassy, and you have nothing else, yes the hd600 and even 400s would be a better buy, they're more balanced. I was looking for bassy though, and I already had a 598, so I didn't see the point in paying 300 or more for a slightly better 598.

maybe I just look at things differently because I'm a headphone hoarder.
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>>54382980
CAL
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>>54380516
I lived in Japan and went to one of those big electronic stores where they have a floor for headphones. You could try out all of them bar the really expensive ones and there were so many to choose from. If for some reason you want to go out there keep in mind it's a great country to buy them from.
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I have atx m40s, would a DAC like a fio improve the sound from my PC? I have no sound card
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Any speaker users here?

My amp is slowly breaking down, i'd like to replace it. I'm thinking about Yamaha a-s201, is it good? A-S300 is something about 20% more expensive.
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>Budget
50-100 USD
>Location
United states of Bad Politicians
>Source
Mobo audio
>Preferred type of headphone
Fullsize
>Open or closed
Semi open or closed
>Comfort level
Comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Preferred music
Eurobeat/Chiptune/House
>Past headphones
Superlux HD 681
- Terrible build quality
- Shitty (sweaty) earpads


I am looking at buying
Audio-Technica ATH-M40x
+
Brainwavz HM5 Velor Replacement Earpads
but I want to make sure I'm not doing something retarded.
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>>54383723
How is it breaking down? In my experience an amp either works or it doesn't
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>>54383736
Input selector switch is sometimes not connecting both channels.

Also: my current amp, no matter how beautiful it looks, is a cheap old piece of shit and i'd like to try something modern for a change.
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>>54383731
>Semi open or closed
I'm assuming you want isolation, so yeah, M40X + pads is not a bad call, and alternative could be the MDR 7506 with Auray Sheep Skin pads since you are also worried about built quality, those things are freaking tanks.
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SHP9500...do they soak up as much sweat as they say?
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>>54383570
lol just looked and his reasoning for removing the x2 is literally "he-400s is more musical".

I think tyll's lost track of what he actually likes.
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>>54383787
all pads do. the problem with shp9500 is that you can't replace the pads.
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>>54383763
That vintage Yamaha is ridiculously cool. As for the switch, you could probably fix it yourself. But it's understandable if you want to upgrade, I think the a-s201 is a good choice. One thing about speaker amps is that measurements are pretty hard to come by. But going by Ethan Winer's teachings, modern amps are supposedly transparent, as long as they aren't defective or the engineer wasn't an idiot.
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>>54383711
no

>>54383787
I would assume so since they're fabric, in my experience actual velour repels sweat/moisture pretty well, a flat fabric would just soak it up.
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>>54383859
not all pads. SHP pads are so bad you can run your finger on them and get black ink leaking out its that bad.
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>>54381225
Feelin' /warm/ out here.

Been eyeing a Mjol2 or Val2 desu, still fucking fuming that I missed an SR007MK1 (SZ1) for ~$650USD.
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>>54383911
SR-207 are better and cheaper. better than HD 800S too.
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>>54383972
Good for you?
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just got my dt880 600ohm. Having buyers remorse lol. They are borderline too small for my head, have to find the perfect spot for them to fit nice and even then they arent as comfortable as my hd558s. Also they sound great, but I dont think the difference in sound from Hd558 to these was worth it. I think sennheiser oval type headphones (558 598 600 etc) are the only headphones that fit my head right. My head is long and my ears are low I guess. These would be perfect if I could extend 1 more notch. Ill look into returning them for a refund if thats possible, otherwise ill get used to it I guess.
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>>54383972
why doesn't everyone run out an buy the sr 207 over something like the 400i or any thing else?
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>>54384026
good for everyone who just read my post and saved $1000.

>>54384038
the price just dropped recently from $750 to less than $500. i don't think anyone has realized yet. it's a steal.
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>>54384130
Somehow I doubt your opinion is relevant enough to sway even a single person to go out and buy them.
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>>54384150
my opinion? i'm talking about the fidelity
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>>54384171
Believe it or not, your opinion isn't objective truth no matter how much you think it is or that you're completely non-biased.
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>>54384188
my opinion has nothing to do with how different headphones measure
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>>54384029
>600ohm.
why. Literally, why.
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>>54384130
Where do you even buy that shit from. It's not on amazon, there's no 500$ sr 207 on their website and there's only japanese shops on ebay. Spoonfeed me I'm too lazy to google
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>>54384231
When you base your opinion entirely on cherry-picked measurements it shows your inexperience on the subject.

Measurements are far too subjective due to the infinite number of variables out there, especially distortion measurements.
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>>54384258
right here: http://www.amazon.com/Stax-xFF33-xFF32-2170-Srs2170/dp/B0043HPD0I
they change the name to "Srs2170" when the amp is being sold with the headphones. silly japs.

>>54384266
cherry-picked? i haven't even cited my sources. repeating that measurements are subjective and that fidelity is nothing but my opinion doesn't make it true. i'm sorry you blew $1600 on shitty headphones. no need to take your anger out on me.
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>>54384255
the website (ncix) where I bought them from they sold the 32 ohm, 250 ohm and 600 ohm all at the same price. I got them for 250$ canadian, which as far as I'm concerned is a good deal. The 32/250ohm were the same price so I chose the 600 ohm since I read they were slightly better. I would never pay more for them though
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>>54384344
What anger? There's no need for you to project.
>i haven't even cited my sources
Of course you haven't, you're no better than the average head-fi user claiming things and pulling 'facts' out of nowhere.
>that fidelity is nothing but my opinion
I was saying it was your opinion that they have higher fidelity and as you are yet to cite anything, my statement still holds true.

If you were really after the 'highest fidelity' why wouldn't you be recommending Etymotics or HD600s?
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>>54384377
>What anger?
you have been passive aggressive right from the first reply
>Of course you haven't, you're no better than the average head-fi user claiming things and pulling 'facts' out of nowhere.
>I was saying it was your opinion that they have higher fidelity and as you are yet to cite anything, my statement still holds true.
here you go:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR207SB2217.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR007.pdf (late Mk1 sn SZ1-1023)
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD800S.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD800Ssn01067.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD800Ssn01070.pdf

>If you were really after the 'highest fidelity' why wouldn't you be recommending Etymotics or HD600s?
if we ignore the shitty build quality, then yes, i would recommend HD 600 over HD 800S
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Recommendations for stealthy earplugs or Bluetooth ones? My work doesn't allow earplugs but my place let's it slide if you keep it discrete
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>>54384489
>you have been passive aggressive right from the first reply
This form of communication isn't exactly the best but I'm still not sure what gave you that impression. My first reply was simply implying there was absolutely no reason for your reply.

I really don't know why you're so desperate to force your opinion on others.
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>>54384822
>My first reply was simply implying there was absolutely no reason for your reply.
let me explain the reason for my reply then.
you were showing interest in a pair of stax headphones. i suggested another pair of stax headphones that are better and cheaper, which i assumed you would be interested in.
>I really don't know why you're so desperate to force your opinion on others
like i've said before, it has nothing to do with my opinion, but our view on this is fundamentally different, so i don't think this conversation can go any further.
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>>54384971
I wasn't particularly after them because they're STAX. Although I was curious to hear the STAX sound, the deal was incredibly good and I could have easily sold them off elsewhere for almost triple that price.

Outside the L-700 and LNS I have little interest in the Lambda series, I don't like the shape and the pads aren't as thick as the SR007. If you haven't noticed from my owning the HD800S, big cups and comfort is big priorities for me.
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>>54385018
have you successfully flipped any headphones before?
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>>54385066
Only beats because they were easy sales and I had access to good prices on them.

Even if I were to heavily undercut the current market price of the 007 I could still have made a solid profit off of that price.

I'm sure I could let go of my DAC2 for around the same price or more than I paid for it too, considering most listings sit $200-700 higher than that.
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Guys, posted in /sqt/ but I have more trsut in /hpg/ concerning audio so
JBL LS 305, KRK Rokit 5 G3, Yamaha HS 5 powered by a Focusrite 2i2
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>>54385151
LSR305 ≥ HS5 > Rokit 5 G3
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>>54385168
Thanks fampai
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>>54385112
better luck next time.
i'm sitting on a lyr i'm trying to make a small profit off of.

anyway, i'm off to bed now.
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>>54382980
So I boiled it down to two options, the Audio Technica WS55 or the Sennheiser 429s. Which ones would you go with.
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What's the difference in sound between the superlux hd681 and the takstar pro 80?
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found these things on the bus today. any good?
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>>54380156
Okay, well obviosuly every other autistic nigger in this thread is to stupid to help you after seven hours which just reflects how fucking ignorant /g/g. But back on topic, I recommend the ath-ad 700x headphones you mentioned as they are aroound $80, brilliant sound and sturdy built quality, you may need to replace the ear muffs later on however. I also recommed the m50x's as they are light, portable and one of the audio communities favorite for a budget such as yours.
Good luck anon.
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>>54386164
nah throw them away
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>>54386164
Give them back, Jamal.
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Is the fiio e10k a good amp/DAC for the dt880?
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>>54380074
HM5s
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>>54386164
They worth $20 at most but i can give you $25 for them
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>>54380550
Takstar hifi2050
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>>54386164
>"I found these"
>post on /hpg/
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mojo
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>>54386286
yes I use it with the 600ohm version and it works fine. I can play music plenty loud. Maybe the schiit stack or o2 dac/amp sound better but I wouldnt know. No way im spending 200+ dollars for that.
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>>54386653
Thanks
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>>54379755
Anyone in this thread good with turntables?

I picked up an older Perpetuum Ebner unit and I have no idea wtf this is meant to do. I understand the cue lever, the speed settings, etc but this is pretty foreign to me?
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>>54383731
Koss Portapros
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Bout do buy some AD1000X. Whadda ya guys think?
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>>54380516
But you can try before you buy, and it is usually advised that you do so before making a big purchase.
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>Budget
500USD, not a hard limit though
>Location
US
>Source
O2/ODAC, open to replacing this if need be for a more powerful amp
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
All-day wear preferrably
>Preferred tonal balance
Overally neutral, maybe leaning slightly towards the brighter side. I'd like forward mids however I'd also prefer a non-fatiguing signature.
>Preferred music
99% of my library is female vocals, either in punk rock, hard rock, acoustic, singer-songwriter, pop, trance, etc.
>Past headphones
Too many to list I fear, I've tried a lot to find something that's perfect but so far nothing checks all the boxes. Most notably I have not tried anything from AKG. Feel free to recommend whatever and I'll tell you if I've tried it and what I didn't like about it.
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>>54387474
>Overally neutral, maybe leaning slightly towards the brighter side.
400i
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>>54387500
This is actually one I haven't tried, I was recommended it in the past and did a lot of research. I think the conclusion I came to was that it was on the boring side of neutral, but that could be totally false or I'm remembering wrong.

I will take another look, thanks.
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>>54387523
>the boring side of neutral
there's another side of neutral?
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>>54387474
AD2000/X
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desu senpai, are there any good quality non gamer headsets? is Creative a good brand these days?
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>>54378412
It's here! Should I peel the protective tape on the edge of the AKG K702? And did K702 isn't made in Austria anymore? Mine has no Austria on it or any bumps in the headband.
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>>54387725
It has been made in China for a while now, just like every other AKG product bar the Annies and K812.
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Is there any difference between Modi 2 and Modi 2U apart from extra inputs?
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>>54379797
Whatever the HD800S has.
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>>54383972
No. The HD800S is practically better in every single category.
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Hey /hpg/, unusual request: do you guys know of any creepy/scary recording/audio/whatever that's sounds particularly spooky on headphones?
Maybe something binaural?
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>>54387910
did you buy the hd800s now or are you still using the hd800
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>>54383797
I'm losing track, for bass would the X2 or HD650 be better?
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>>54387930
I'm uploading a song that for some goddamn reason isn't on YouTube. Gimme a minute.
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>>54388084
HD650. X2 has midbass bloat in the form of a bump that isn't smooth at all and heavy subbass rolloff. 650 has a very linear response which sounds much better and more like a good loudspeaker.
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>>54388116
Thanks for the quick reply, though I'll admit I'm a dunce when it comes to this. Not sure what a bump is, and I'm guessing sub bass roll-off means the X2 can't reproduce some of the lower frequencies? Is a linear bass more representative of a room system bass? In the end I might just source an external sub like
>>54381938 suggested. Though on the other hand don't particularly want to wake the neighbours/roommates.
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>>54374087
Anybody know if 1500mA and 500mA power adapter makes a difference in sound quality? Inb4 AU
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>>54387690
Creative Aurvana Live1. I hear the Live2 is garbage.
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>>54379797
>what's subjectively the best
Beito desu.
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>>54387500
Is the 400i the new meme headphone

Is there any headphone better for the price
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>paying hundreds of dollars to color your headphone's sound signature with tube amps
>when EQ is available

Why
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>>54389320
At the HE400i price range, it competes against T90, HD700, K712. So by default, the HE400i wins.
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>>54389329
The effect is not the same and usually not there in the first place with tubes. Any good tube amplifier is very linear within the audible band and has low enough noise and distortion to never become audible. Poor designs might cause audible coloration but this doesn't mean they are going to sound warm and also isn't exclusive to tube designs.

>>54389339
Comparing things in the price range is pointless because it's not a sign of quality.
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>>54387794
Slightly higher maximum output power iirc. Not important.
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>>54389320
400i more like 400€
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Can the beyer DT250 be described as Neutral warm?
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>>54389855
it can be described as a piece of shit, as are most beyers
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>>54389464
>usually not there in the first place with tubes

that makes no sense, isn't the reason tube amps are even a thing is because of the warm effect and coloration it creates for headphones
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Any advice for someone who always used in ears but now want to try on ear headphones?

The most important thing is I need them outside, when I'm at uni, in the bus, etc.

So they should easily fit into my backpack and maybe not be too bulky

The second important thing is I don't want the people around me to hear my music when I turn up the volume

Thats all I care about desu
Anything you could recommend?
Thanks
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>>54390253
PX200 ii
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>>54383150
Don't you want a nice raincoat?
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>>54389862
What's so bad at beyers? been looking at DT250 . looks really comfy for long sessions as far as closed headphones go
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>>54389962
No. Tube amplifiers were a thing before solid state came along. A well designed tube amplifier has no audible effect on anything. A poor design might but warmth is not necessarily what they sound like if they do color something.
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>Budget
Around 50-60$ (200-250 PLN)
>Location
Poland
>Source
Desktop and rarely a smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized, over-the-ear
>Open or closed
Don't really care
>Comfort level
Good enough for entire day of wearing while working or playing vidya
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't know if I can ask for much with budget that low, anything without the bass being overwhelming
>Preferred music
Pretty much everything, but mostly alternative rock and electronic music
>Past headphones
Superlux 681 evo and before that other superlux headphones, they had nice sound quality and were comfortable, but kept breaking really fast because of low quality build.

I know that the budget is tight, but I live in a poorfag country and that 60$ is a lot of money here.
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>>54391739
get porta pros
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>>54391758
They look uncomfortable as fuck. I hate any headphones that aren't over the ear.
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>>54391771
You're irrationally projecting hate. I'm wearing porta pros now, they have multiple levels of adjustment like the comfort zone and headband
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>>54391855
It is not about the pressure or the headband, it is about my ears not being able to stand headphones like this for longer than an hour.
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>>54391879
you simply dont know what you're talking about then, these are the most comfortable headphones i have when adjusted right. They literally weigh nothing
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>>54391898
Are you trying to troll me? My only real requirement for headphones is for them to be over-the-ear. I won't buy supra-aural ones, period.
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>>54391926
what? why?!
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>>54391944
Because my ears always feel weird and ichy after wearing them for longer periods of time.
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>>54391958
You must have worn some shit on ears like grados
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>>54380027
my x2's are really quiet from pc so I got valhalla
12 o clock position is the most bearably loud, mostly it's somewhere between 9 oclock and 12 oclock on low gain
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>>54391971
you're going to get tinnitus
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>>54391739
Tascam TH-02 with HM5 Pads? Better measurements than Sennheiser HD4..'s. But I don't know if that'll break very fast. For a low budget. Beggars can't be choosers. Can you increase it to $80 for MDR-7506, MDR-V6 or M40X?
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>>54392031
It's honestly not unbearably loud. x2's do benefit from an amp if your soundcard a shit like mine. Fiio x1 drives them fine.

And I allready have mild tinnitus from shooting without earpro when I was 5
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>>54392035
The MDR-7506 are for like 500 PLN here, the other 2 aren't available here so I would have to order them from amazon and pay a lot extra for that, same with the tascam. I remember someone recommending me sennheiser HD429, are they any good? I can get them pretty cheap here.
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>>54392090
You need the HD439 with velour pads. 429 comes with leatherette pads which will maybe peel isn't it?
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>>54392090
Oh and HD439 is not open back. It is misleading.
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>>54392031
>>54392052

I still get mad thinking how my iPhone 3G went max volume because of a software glitch, tinnitus ever since.
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>>54392137
It doesnt happen that fast unless its like a grenade that blows up right next to you. In that case, you probably have more problems
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>>54392114
I can't find them here and amazon won't ship them to Poland. Fucking hell, living in such a shithole feels terrible.
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>>54391926
Ignore autists telling you to get what they have.

Sennheiser hd518 should be in your price bracket. They're $50US on amazon.
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>>54392114
Maybe I could buy the 429 ones and some replacement pads?
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>>54392351
Yes. Maybe. Try checking on eBay or Aliexpress for HD439 pads but with cloth not the leatherette kind.
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>>54391971
>gets a 300 dollar amp for a $200 headphone that doesn't even sound like $200

holy shit, audiophiles are retarded. the x2s don't even merit an amp on most situations and no it does not improve the sound.
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>>54392731
audiophiles don't use tube amps
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What is objectively the comfiest looking/sounding/wearing headphone one could possibly buy?
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>>54393005
Philips fidelio X2
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>>54393005
Oppo PM-3 for closed headphones
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>>54393045
>pm3
>comfy

there are comfier closed backs out there.
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>>54393372
they also have to look and sound comfy. Fostex TH-X00 is another candidate
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>>54393516
>thx00
>comfy

they're not as comfy as you think.
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>>54393005
shp9500 if big head.
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>>54388096
Sorry Anon, fell asleep here, did you uploaded it?
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>>54390793
That's a brand basher Anon, some people hate everything from certain brands, doesn't matter that they never tested particular models.
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>>54393045
>>54393372
The comfiest closed headphone I've tried is probably the mdr 1a, they sound like ass though
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>>54393735
The guy who asked for recommendation few hours ago here, I would also like opinions on those, as I could easily get them for a good price here.
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What's wrong with the TH-X00, asides from distribution.
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>>54394016
not much. arguably the fidelity because it's competing directly with PM3. both are very solid headphones.
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Should I sell my amp Graham Slee Solo (with PSU1) and get Asus Muses dac+amp? Currently using it with xonar d2/pm

Headphones are HD-650.
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>>54393713
I hope so because I just pulled the trigger and got the beyer dt-250 and E10k DAC.
hope i didn't fuck up
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>>54394418
as a rule of thumb, you should avoid buying amps and DACs before you're sure you need them.
at least both choices were good.
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Why doesn't the Th-X00 replace the SRH1540s? sure it's a massdrop exclusive but the THX00 is better and cheaper.
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>>54394502
I'm talking about this guide.
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>>54394456
ah alright thanks. g'night hpg.
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>>54394502
>>54394520
i asked for a number of changes yesterday, which included adding the th-x00. still waiting for a reply.
i think srh1540 should stay for the exact reason you mentioned though.

>>54394548
sleep tight
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>>54394568
yeah but why spend more to get less? the TH X00 are far superior and if you're willing to spend that amount of money i don't think waiting for something to come around is that much of a sacrifice.
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>>54387474
K702
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>>54393735
Absolute trash
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>>54394649
All right, I think some form of explanation is needed then
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>>54391739
AKG K240
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>>54394568
Also why the redundancy?
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/OppoPM3.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTHX00sn1927.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ShureSRH1540.pdf

SRH1540 measure worse of the three yet they're kept up there even though the Oppos are cheaper and are more neutral. As far as bassy goes the TH-X00 does it better and measures better. I'd vote the Audeze sine to be in that guide as well. Just look at this.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeSINE.pdf
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>>54394659
any 400 and 500 series sennheisers are trash they are veiled and have bad build quality
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>>54394613
sometimes people wanna get new headphones because their old ones have broken down. they want to go out and buy some right away, but massdrop drops can take a long while. for example the new HE-350. it doesn't ship until august.
if you use headphones every day, 3 months is a long wait.

>>54394673
SHR1540 is a choice for people who want bassy headphones. they're not competing directly with PM3 because PM3 are not bassy. as for the sine, the guide doesn't cover on-ear headphones. maybe it should. they really are great.
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>>54394673
Sine are supra-aural
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>>54394628
Those are pretty fatiguing. Treble is very harsh
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>>54394520
can we add the AudioQuest Nighthawk?
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Are the Sennheiser Momentum 2.0's the only wireless headphones worth considering? I'm struggling to think of anyone who makes any circumaural headphones other than Beets by Dr. Pepper.
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>>54396297
V-moda wireless.
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>>54396297
>wireless headphones
>worth considering
Pick one.
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>>54396297
jbl elite 700
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Are the ATH M50Xs still the go-to $150 budget recommendation?
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>>54396613
haven't been for years
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You millennials.

When will you learn?
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>>54396613
Looks like shit build quality.

Why don't any of you talk about the Koss Pro-4AA? This is THE standard go-to high quality headphone set and has been for decades. Inexpensive, rugged, excellent sound quality.

You kids these days with your meme headsets.
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>>54396756
>70's
>on-ears
bitch, please...
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>>54396834
>Standard high quality headphone for decades
>What is MDR V6
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>>54396853
Sorry I'll take real leather and metal over chink plastic and vinyl.
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>>54396853
Ouch though, 2x the cost of the Koss for inferior performance...
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>>54396881
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>>54397062
I think you meant >>54396853
but still, are there measurements of the Pioneer one?
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>>54397080
I will measure the Pioneers along with my Toshiba 4 channel phones, my Pioneer SE-50's, and some others that I have. I have many types of audiophile-grade phones, none of this new chink shit for me.
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>>54397252
You might want to measure some of the "chink shit" that's popular, in other for people to have a relatable refference for comparison.
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>>54397391
>relatable refference for comparison
I'm not interested in chink shit though.

Are you really serious though? Beats by Dr Dre owner perchance?
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>>54381225
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>>54397416
>>54397016
Ok, before we go on, what do you mean by "chink shit", i'm pretty shure we are not talking about the same thing.
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>Budget
$100, a bit flexible
>Location
United States
>Source
Desktop PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
7-ish hours of use at a time
>Past headphones
QPAD QH-90s
>>
crossboarder here, why you hate Mojo so much?
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>>54394520
This is what happens when you recommend stuff you own:

+ Bassy Response
- Colored Response

Make your mind up.
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It's like none of you niggers know the dt150 replaced the dt100, or that the dt250 is better than either of them.

Stop your autism fits before they start please.
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>>54397570
We don't hate it, we just recognise that it's overpriced as fuck.

Cambridge dacmagic xs does the same thing and instead of costing $800-900 costs $120.
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>>54397712
My apologies I overestimated the price of the mojo.

It does the same thing as the dacmagic xs for $600.
>It's only 5 times the price!
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Does anybody knows if the Boompro cable and the basic audio cable from V-Moda have the same thickness near the tip? I mean the plastic part just befor the actual TRS connector.
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>>54396853
>70's
>not using the best headphone from that era
wew lad
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>>54397475
>i'm pretty shure we are not talking about the same thing.
Chinese produced goods sold at inflated prices to suckers mainly by the use of clever advertising and "style."

Chink, shit.
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>>54398194
Aren't Beyerdynamic products made Germany?
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>>54398260
That's quite an assumption.

ARE all of them?
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>>54398428
I don't know, AREN'T them? Their website says so.
Also, Grado is made in the US and we know what that sounds like...
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>budget
$500

>location
US

>preferred type of headphone
open over ear

>comfort level
multiple hours

>preferred tonal balance
warm+balanced
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>>54398592
HD600/650
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>>54398458
>Their website says so.
It says "ALL our products are made in Germany," really? Link please?
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Should I invest in Shure SE215s, or are they overhyped memes?
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>>54398855
http://europe.beyerdynamic.com/press/press-releases/press-detail/article/top-sound-made-by-hand-the-recipe-for-success-is-made-in-germany-for-heilbronn-based-audio-specia.html
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>>54398973
There are other choices in that price range. Momentum In Ears and MA750.
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