It's over Nvidia is finished
http://www.techpowerup.com/222156/amd-radeon-r9-480-non-x-performs-close-to-r9-390x
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-radeon-r9-480-rumored-fast-radeon-r9-390x/109299.html
Does no-one remember the rumours for the last 10 years of graphics cards releases?
Why does /g/ care so much about graphics cards? Is it because you guys are all elite-level competitive gamers?
>>54371223
Of course not, it's always hype hype hype. But keep in mind though, a broken clock is right twice a day and 28nm to 14nm should actually deliver. I'm actually thinking these Polaris cards will have overclocking headroom as well since Polaris was said to have been a major improvement in TDP.
490 x here i come
have over a grand waiting for a new gpu and monitor
>>54371257
>not having a grand for the monitor alone
That's nice, retard.
>>54371269
>I do i just dont want to piss away that much as i am waiting for the new oct cores to come out
>>54371253
>a broken clock is right twice a day
>he doesn't use a 24h clock
>>54371269
new philips 43inch ips 4k came out, 700-800$ price range...
it's like they put out the monitor just for me. i don't want 4k for making things sharper/aa, i want it for productivity without the need to scale.
>>54371292
no one does, and the need to constantly do math in your head for your watch gets real fucking old fast... wish everyone used a 24 hour clock... so much more convenient.
>>54371296
Why the fuck would you want a 4K tv sized monitor?
I was looking at 28" 4k but it was a absolute rip here in my country like double the price at 800-1000aud so i am going to get a 2.5k screen as i want to be able to read text in games
>>54371306
because its an actual monitor, designed for computers and productivity, not the "i have to have hardware AA because i cant handle a jaggie" crowd
wait... i read more...
what in the fuck were you looking at a 4k 28 inch for if you were concerned with text in games?
>>54371325
Im not 4K is a meme i tried downsampling and it didnt look any better text just looked like shit
drones will still buy 3.5planned obsolescence. it's never over
>>54371248
Yes. I have to win dota and csgo
>>54371362
>I was looking at 28" 4k
no shit the text was bad, especially without a well scaling game.
43 inches 4k is just about what 1080p at 24 inches dpi was at. personally i prefer windowing games, so i would get the equivalent of a 1080p monitor, then 3 more monitors of space to dick around in
if the game permits, something 2560x1600
and if an old game forces me, full screen 720 or 1080p and not have shit scaling as 720p is 3 pixels wide, while 1080p is 2wide on 4k, shit would look nice even if its off resolution full screen.
http://semiaccurate.com/2016/05/03/thing-go-bumpgate-in-the-night-for-nvidias-gp100-pascal-gpu/
Ahahahahahah
Last time charlie talked bout metal layer problems at Nvidia we got Fermi
even better than i thought
480 is only 200$? and runs close to 390X
holy fuckballz
>>54371897
Would feel like 2007 all over again, when the 4850 was cheap as fuck
>>54371423
>MFW the GP104 die bursts into flames during a benchmark and reviewers film it
>>54371925
seriously as long as polaris meets a certain level i dont care beyond that
give me 60fps on high-ultra settings on 1440p for 200$ and 175w tdp and I dont need more than that
>>54371223
>54371223
Where does this leave me with my Fury X???
>>54371985
Sell it now.
>>54371233
Yes, and this year looks like fermi year again.
>>54371403
>43 inches 4k is just about what 1080p at 24 inches dpi was at
40" at 4K is the same as 2560x1440 on a 27"
Sounds meme-tier for vidya but if you're doing shit like video editing, 3d modelling/cad or even coding it's a fuckload of uninterrupted screen real estate to work with
I'm seriously looking at one for my spare pc just to try it out and see how I like it
>>54372276
for me, 4k, an ips display, many input methods, and being 43 inches while made for pc... this is a dream monitor
depending on how shit goes, i may get one, i may not... would suck to not get one but not sure.
gameing, its 60 hrz, and i play most shit windowed, being able to not have a second monitor while still having a very large amount of screen space left over, or hell, having an ultra wide resolution would be nice in some games.
not to mention the fact that 720p and 1080p perfectly scale to 4k, where as 720p does not scale to 1080p perfect, and where i would put this, my bedroom, it would be a massive upgrade for watching netflix/youtube/pirated shit a distance away from me.
>>54371985
You are fine until 2017, the 490x the bestest of best optimism will gain 5% on fury x
>>54372260
No silly, with DX12 you can combine different GPUs together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrpTwUJTVCQ
>>54372327
if developers allow it and nvidia will not purge the ability from drivers
>>54371248
Yes, I have to win league of legends and euro truck simulador 2
>>54372340
Sure, there's that risk. But in all likelihood compatibility and driver support will only improve as time goes on.
>>54372357
it's not just risk, Nvidia WILL kill this feature
99% accuracy, they do it every time
>>54372377
Fine by me; you will still be able to combine a Fury X with 480x or some such.
>>54371248
>why does a technology board care so much about technology
>>54373721
Lol
>>54371248
faggot doesn't even know he's on a technology board
>>54371253
That broken clock thing has sparked a thought of mine. Although it may be right 2 times a day when broken, when are those 2 times? And by what standard, because we will always have a variation of time even if it is an Atomic Clock. What defines our time? When exactly is 12 O'Clock? These are the questions that ponder my mind at night
>>54371248
Graphics cards are by far the most exciting in terms of technological growth and development. They can also be tested and compared in ways that are also fun; unlike comparing, say, SSD write speeds.
almost everything else is stagnating or getting worse. CPUs, laptops, cell phones, televisions, etc. are all plateauing in quality. Computer technology as a whole is slowing down in being able to actually offer new use case scenarios.
When a 13" macbook can hold a full voltage i7 without throttling with a thunderbolt 3.1 port, then I'll be exciting for something other than graphics cards
>>54371925
oh man that takes me back
still have a 4870 sitting in my room somewhere and a 3870
>>54371269
You can get a 4k 24" monitor with a PLS panel and 100% sRGB coverage with freesync for $400
anyone paying more than that for a monitor is falling for one meme or another
>>54375607
Imho i cant wait for my lappy to be 4mm thick
>>54371399
I got a titan x so I can play cs go at 400 hz. Now I just need a gsync monitor that can keep up with my fast twitch muscles.
>>54375616
>You can get a 4k 24" monitor with a PLS panel and 100% sRGB coverage with freesync for $400
what screen can i ask?
been looking for a good 27 28" screen
>>54375616
>24"
>60Hz
Lel no
>>54374930
>>54375607
Confirmed Professional Gaming League members.
>>54371223
I'm more interested in what form factor these will come with
Since they require far less power I hope they come in a package as small as a Fury Nano. Got a SFF system waiting for one of these to drop into
Doesn't matter when a fucking GTX980Ti can't run any game at 60fps with 1080p at ultra settings.
>>54371223
but are they backrupt?
more importantly, are their regular customers at risk of taking their own lives?
>>54371223
Now they just need to have good Linux drivers and I'll switch.
will it have drivers on linux? or at all?
>>54375683
>AMD
>drivers
>>54371423
>Note: The following is for professional and student level subscribers.
I'm a jew, can you screencap the fulltext plz
>>54375665
Dont you love how big and strong some cards look?
Like the Toxic from Sapphire looks like a brick, that shit looks imposing
>>54375709
Nah, I rather cram big power into small volumes
Have a watercooled nCase build I'm working on and the only two card that'll fit with my current design is a Fury Nano or a 970 mini
So I will buy a good GPOU for 200. i dont care if it isn't nvidia. that is a damn steal
>>54375632
Fuck thin laptops and phones for that matter
>>54375709
who the heck cares? you see the card three times in it's life time:
1)when you buy it
2)when you insert it
3)when you take it out and sell it
>>54375781
this, unless you are a fucking ricer faggot with a windowed case
>>54375688
stop this ancient meme you shill, their drivers work great
Is gtx 980 ti overkill for 1440p/60fps gaming?
>>54375781
I clean it every 4-5 months, but yeah, only faggots care about how their hardware looks.
>>54375849
Just right actually.
>>54375849
No. Actually, it's not good enough to maintain 60 fps at 1440p in many games. It's overkill if you play assfaggots, battlefield, COD, f2p garbage, WoW, cs go etc.
>>54373721
>video game shit
>technology
manchild pls. you're talking about toys here, not technology. gpus will never do anything positive for the field except for making little manchildren like you happy.
>>54375649
>falling for one meme or another
you're exactly the kind of person I'm talking about
>>54375638
Samsung
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LU24E590DS/ZA
they have a 28" variant for around $600 but it's not a PLS panel; I mean, it's probably the best TN panel ever produced (I saw it on display at best buy) but IMO there's no point in settling for those shit viewing angles in 2016
>>54371423
>exactly the same happened with Fermi
GTX 480v2 inbound
>>54375904
>>54375919
games I want to be able to play without lag
unreal tournament alpha
kingdom come deliverance beta
need for speed 2015
far cry primal
also those image attached
>>54375993
do you even GPGPU
What interest me the most here, is to see if laptops are going to finally have the same cards as desktops.
If the TDP is low enough with this new generation, then it's goodbye to higher end mobile GPUs.
>>54375841
>saying AMD drivers work great
>calling other people shill
>>54375849
no, that's like the people saying that a 970 or 290x is "overkill" for 1080p
that's the kind of card you need for 60fps and no compromises
I'd say that the 980ti in particular is overkill since SLI scaling is fucking shit. save yourself $500 and get 980's; you can even overclock them if your motherboard and PSU aren't garbage
but honestly, for 2 cards, I'd wait to see the pricing and performance of the 1070/1080. It's literally a month away
also, in all honesty, I would go with an AMD GPU. If Polaris is half of what it's cracked up to be they'd be much more worth investing in than Pascal at the mid-high range. Of course Nvidia will have top dog single card spot but that's essentially meaningless if all their other cards are crippled in DX12 and outperformed by AMD equivalents in everything else
>>54375993
>calls other people names and claims that GPUs are not technology
>I'm the child
Wew lad
>>54376009
dont expect ubishit titles to run good ever
>>54371223
>$200
Am I being rused, or did they get the price wrong
>>54376091
that's what polaris 11 is supposed to bring to the table
new macbooks are supposed to have them. Would be pretty fucking crazy to have a 390 level card in a macbook pro
>>54376173
>plays with video games
>presumably 18+
pick one and only one, gamergate manchild. go back to your 8gag safespace where you can complain about women and SJWs to your hearts content
>>54376142
I'm working with a P8Z77-I DELUXE so single card solutions are my only options.
I mentioned nvidia as I never had one of their cards. The last GPU I had was the AMD 7970 GHz from gigabyte. To be honest it sounded like a jet taking off when I would load up a game. I've head this is less of an issue with nivida due to better power efficiency?
Thanks for your input!
>>54376004
I would kill to see that kind of shit happen again.
>>54376216
well, the 380 is over $200 so they probably pulled the number from that
>>54376009
UT4 is the only one that scales nicely
Kingdom Cum is absolutely not ready and you would likely need two titans or fury's to get 1080p 60fps even
Its really unopimized but its fucking gorgeous.
>>54376236
the biggest issue with heat/noise has more to do with the cooler on the card than the actual card itself. for instance, lots of nvidia cards naturally run cooler than amd cards but the coolers are mediocre and they also have coil whine, where as a sapphire vapor-x 290x runs dead silent and cool as shit. I myself have a 290x with an Arctic Accellero III cooler I put on there myself
I'd wait to see the reviews on coolers and noise
490X when
>>54376009
wolf new order doesn't support SLI
just go for strong single card. one 980ti is good enough, and it'll have a nice resell value for when you want a stronger one
>>54376091
Yeah i was thinking of getting a gaming laptop for the lels but its totally pointless for me.
Would rather just put polaris 11 490 in my pc and be done with it.
Man i wish my area still had lans and nerd gatherings, would be hilarious to rock up with a 480m and whipe the floor of most pc's there.
>>54376301
June
>>54376230
Top b8
>>54376301
In a month.
1070 and 1080 in six months.
Nvidia is finished.
Christ cant it just come out?
Im still rocking a 770 from fucking 2013 but i cant upgrade it because nothing is coming out!
>>54376471
If only you had gone with a 7970 back then, you'd still be getting top performance today.
>>54371296
>no1 does
tell that to the hotshot crews and other forestry fire fighters
>>54376471
780 SLI here, I know that feel
Was eyeing a 980ti or the fury x (or even a pair of nanos now they've dropped a bit in price) but with new shit so close it's a waste of money
I don't believe in anything until various sites have benched the cards.
The Fiji series of AMD was a pure dissappointment and didn't deliver.
>>54376624
>having expectations for AMDead
>>54376450
Source?
I heard someone say 1000series would be in summer
>>54375993
>video game shit
What is video rendering, for 1000.
>>54371233
Yes.
if AMD releases first:
>AMD has until nvidia releases as best GPU, nvidia will outclass initially, but slowly driver improvements on AMD side will mean that by the end of the generation the AMD part will be ~40% faster than the nvidia part.
nVidia will not undercut AMD's price on release and AMD won't pricecut for ~4 months.
>if nVidia launches first
nVidia will have crown performance until about halfway through the generation when AMD's driver improvements catch up, the AMD card will end up ~40% faster than the equivilent nVidia card at the end of the generation.
AMD will undercut nVidia's pricing on release
>>54371223
>Not waiting for Vega
>Not wanting 16GBs of HMB2
I lost interest when AMD said Polaris wasn't considered "high-end". I'm just going to save up and if Vega flops I'll just get two Polaris cards. Probably not though, I'm a sucker for futureproofing
>>54376230
>8gag
8 is for pedos
9 is for gags
>>54376471
>still have HD4870
>see this post
>>54376807
Nvidia are about six months behind AMD in their manufacturing process.
>>54376807
it is coming out in the summer. its pretty much confirmed to be releasing in july/august time. they won't be doing a massive unveiling at the bf5 event if their cards aren't out on a mass scale by the time bf5 comes out in september.
>>54376624
AMD's own demo showed 390x+ performance
>>54376450
Nvidia has some viral campaign going for a friday announcement. Probably a paper launch to preemt AMD'sa nnouncements in 4 weeks (Computex)
>>54376301
That would be Vega. Q1 2017
this is a gpu thread so might as well ask
Is AMD or Nvidia better for working with Unreal Engine 4 and Autodesk programs?
Get 970 or wait for Pascal 960?
>>54377282
Wait for Pascal because everyone will start getting rid of their 900s cards for cheap
>>54377277
i don't know about ue4 but avoid amd when using autodesk at all costs. amd drivers when it comes to complex software are fucking trash. i have a friend who bought a 390 and was unable to use maya because of a driver problem. he'd have to roll back to 2014 drivers to make it work but then it fucked with his game performance obviously. save yourself a lot of hassle and go nvidia this time round.
>>54371423
To be fair he does hate Nvidia with a burning passion but he really does get insider info.
>>54375616
>4k
>24''
I just bought a 27'' LG 4k display that also has Freesync for $500. I'd consider 27'' the minimum for 4k and even then I have to use 150% scaling in Win10.
>they dont know about 10XX being fermi
where the fuck have you guys been.
http://www.orderof10.com/temporalshards
its pretty much already confimed nvidias 10XX series is gonna be related to fermi.
probably a designe based on it.
we will either get a power house or a golden age of housefire posting.
paul has also gotten a orderof10 box.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyWasSLm70s
>>54377313
There's that, true, but will it be worth it to get a Pascal-equivalent of a 970 or a used 970/980?
>>54377776
>but will it be worth it to get a Pascal-equivalent of a 970 or a used 970/980?
how the fuck would anyone here know? AMD and Nvidia have told us nothing specific about in game performance with these cards
>>54375993
>Workstation GPU
>>54377470
Which is why he rips on AMD here:
http://semiaccurate.com/2016/03/16/amd-fishes-hollow-headlines-capsaicin/
http://semiaccurate.com/2015/06/19/amd-outs-caribbean-islands-aka-r9-300-series-gpus/
>>54378723
Pure unfiltered butthurt and shilling holy shit
>>54379123
SA ain't biased, they just hate bullshit
WAITWAITWAIT
SHOULD I GET A 480 OR A 490[X]
I WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO GET A 390 BUT FUCK THAT SENPAI
>>54371967
Those are some pretty high requirements tbqh anon.
>>54371223
>http://www.techpowerup.com/222156/amd-radeon-r9-480-non-x-performs-close-to-r9-390x
Not really interested in cards that perform like last years cards, if its cheap enough though, it might be an interesting option for CF.
Two 390x performing cards will blow a single 980ti out of the water
I'm just gonna get 490 for cheap to replace my 5870 and get other 490 for CF when they are cheaper.
>>54376227
>>54376315
>390x 2816 GCN1.1 shaders
>390 2560 GCN1.1 shaders
>380x 2048 GCN1.2 shaders
>380 1792 GCN1.2 shaders
>polaris 10 / 480 ~2300 GCN2.0 shaders
>polaris 10/480 ~ 390x performance
>polaris 11 ~1300 GCN2.0 shaders
Polaris 11 will be a bit slower than a 380.
>>54382201
We don't really know how much faster the GCN 4.0 shaders are compared to GCN 1.2
>>54376930
>16GBs of HMB2
I need to see this.
>>54377162
At least your one step above my 4850
>>54382241
The speed increases over GCN revisions aren't quantum leaps, probably 10-15% improvements. For the most part, the number of shaders and core revision are proportional to performance. See 380X (~2000 GCN1.2 shaders) vs 280X (~2000 GCN1.0 shaders). 380X has slightly less mem bandwidth, but for the most part they are very close.
If 2300 GCN2 shaders is about 2800 GCN1.1 shaders, I think you can assume what 1300 GCN2 shaders will be like.
>>54376595
sub .01% of people may the fuck well be no one.
>>54382201
retards...
polaris 11 is not going to be fast, but god damn will it be fast enough to get the job done, and not hurt battery life on mobile, as this is the mobile gpu correct?
>>54383876
correct, we know it can play battlefront at 1080p 60fps medium settings, and we know it can play 4k video without a cooler
They are going to be mobile gpus they cant compete with the 10xx series.
I'm reading that polaris had linux drivers submitted to the kernel, which is nice, but will they be shit tier, or actually usable? Really want to go amd but don't want garbage performance.
On another note, zen is meant to be coming at the end of the year, right?
>>54384259
I thought only Polaris 11 was mobile gpus
>>54384259
Meanwhile Nvidia is cramming full desktop GPU into notebooks and Intel makes better iGPU.
>>54384273
>will they be shit tier
Considering that no AMD drivers on Linux ever were not crash prone slow pieces of shit I'm going to go with shit tier.
>/g/'s been shilling AMD for months
>mfw Pascal comes out and totally BTFOs Polaris
>>54386259
Did you ever think about not using AMD's drivers? Mesa is a lot better these days.
>>54386416
>still just 60 fps on Bioshock Infinite, 1440p with a R9 285/R9 380
Weak
>>54386449
Yeah, you're still paying more for lower performance but they can deliver playable framerates on the open drivers of which the stable releases are rock solid. Plus the drivers improve constantly both in feature support and performance.
Mesa 12 will be out in two months with higher performance and OpenGL 4.3 support.
>>54386248
>Intel makes better iGPU
better at crashing
better at consuming more power for the same performance
better at not running dx10 or 11 games
better at being completely incapable of running dx12
Even Intel doesn't want their iGPUs.
http://seekingalpha.com/news/3168017-bloomberg-intel-talks-amd-license-gpu-patents
i just bought a R9 380 how retarded and fucked am i?
>>54386576
Its third-gen GCN (1.2) so it is the hardware that AMD has focused on with their recent open source driver efforts. Support is already very good, and you can expect for it to get better over time.
>>54386498
Yeah but the lowest end Nvidia performs the same as the fastest AMD card in Bioshock.... which is an AMD sponsored game.
>>54386520
Actually Intel has faster OpenGL updates and AMD mobile chipsets run like dogshit even if you think your 35fps in battlefart is worth buying a consumer piece of shit with no battery life that throttles (it isn't worth it).
>>54376598
I just got a nano a month ago for under $400. Feels great.
>>54386576
How are you liking it?
Got one last December, and haven't really seen a game that has caused problems.
>>54386629
I hope you're right about drivers being good in the future. I haven't downloaded the newest update because I am scared of all the crashes that were going on when Crimson first released
>https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-radeon-r9-480-perf-is-close-to-r9-390x.html
>close
>look at offscreen results
Ahahaha, AMDtards are really mentally challenged.
>>54386872
>Actually Intel has faster OpenGL updates
so the thing nobody uses?
>AMD mobile chipsets run like dogshit
except that's not what you said, you specified iGPU
>>54388987
Why the fuck does offscreen matter?
If I'm not looking at it, I don't give a fuck how fast it's rendering.
Just when is Pascal coming out for sale?
What the fuck is that orderof10 countdown?
>>54389060
June
yknow they're not going to competitively price it right, it's going to be as expensive as it is powerful
>>54389725
Maybe AMD feels really dickish and wants to undercut Nvidia.
Why do people on reddit and 4chan love AMD so much? They haven't had a good product in years. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
>>54389740
Everyone is excited precisely because AMD has been doing rubbish lately. If they can get ahead it will be better for everyone. Also nvidia and intel are jewish botnets.
>>54389740
gtx 970
>>54389763
Even if they have some good hardware this time look at how AMD GPUs do in frame time benchmarks. Massive stuttering problems. They need their software improved way more than their hardware.
>>54389730
apparently they can if mm2 thing is true
>>54389740
yes, in exactly two years
>>54389804
it's not true at least for a year
>>54389740
cunts love to root for the underdog
and it's long past time intel and nvidia had some serious competition to keep them honest (kek)
>>54388987
>Why the fuck does offscreen matter?
I want to know that as well. How is that relevant?
>>54389902
Check the pcper review of the Fury X2. Not just the dual gpu having problems but the single Fury cards and their other shit too. It's sad when 980 Ti SLI is smoother than AMD's single cards.
>>54371296
>new philips 43inch ips 4k came out, 700-800$ price range...
that was just the early estimate.
it looks to actually exceed 1000 yuroshekels unfortunately.
will still also only be 60Hz/DP1.2, which is what breaks the deal for me.
waiting for next year's presumptive UHD@120Hz model, even if it's $1.5k.
>>54371292
>>he doesn't use a 24h clock
>He doesn't use a metric clock.
A broken clock is right 2.4 times a day.
>>54383876
>as this is the mobile gpu correct?
There is no such thing as "mobile GPU", you fucking retard.
Mobile GPUs are based on the same chips as desktop GPUs. For example, the R9 M390 is the same chip as the R7 370, and the GTX 960M is the same chip as the GTX 750 Ti.
The fact they're using Polaris 11 for laptops doesn't mean there won't be a desktop version of it as well.
>>54386259
>implying this 1% usage OS matters in any way to the desktop GPU market
How does it feel to know that both Nvidia and AMD could completely abandon all Linux support right now and it would make practically zero difference in their bottom line?
In fact, I wouldn't doubt it would save their money, since they could stop wasting money and time supporting an irrelevant platform that almost nobody uses.
>>54389740
Because intel is EVIL and like 90's apple are in a massive downturn.
Every broduct outside of their core Desktop and Server and Laptop divisons has DIED and they lost 10 billion dollars.
Hopefully this will give AMD a chance to catch up ,fuck intel charging 500-1000usd for a 6-8core i7
>>54389740
>They haven't had a good product in years.
They fucked up in the CPU front by investing in Bulldozer, but their GPU division is doing very well. In fact, they have the best offering on the two most important price points, $200 (380 > 960) and $300 (390 > 970 3.5 GB stutterfest edition).
>>54389740
It's not that they love amd so much it's because they have so much buyers remorse they're the most noticeable userbase. Statistically nvidia shits on amd when it comes to the size of the user base and in theory every 7/8 of 10 people who post in gpu forums should own an nvidia product but all you see are amd shit posters. Nvidia users are content with what they have, amd users aren't and are always trying to damage control.
>>54389740
390 easily out performing the 970 yet the 970 out sells it due to marketing, yeah why wouldn't we root for AMD
the performance difference between the 390 and 390x is like 5%
>>54391147
>390 easily out performing the 970
only in 3 games which are sponsored by amd which are hitman, ashes and QB. the 970 trashes the 390 in all other games now. it even does better than the 390 in far cry primal now.
>>54376921
do you realize that "driver improvements" mean jack shit with dx12.
dx12 exists just to allow low level hw access. If they need to pass to drivers again in a meaningful way than why don't keep dx11.
>>54391201
>>54391201
which are dx12, so low level api access, so no driver tweaking a la gameworks, so how are these games supposed to be better with AMD over Nvidia when there aren't single manufacturer custom implementation?
>>54391277
bro i think you forgot to include the 390 in your benchmark image. don't worry, i gotchu covered.
>>54375551
No one gives a shit, you fucking loser.
>>54391288
You can do anything at driver level no matter which api is used.
With a driver they can detect which application is making the call and intercept/alter it to make it do something else.
For example, inject a shader, skip rendering something that the driver deems unnecessary like offscreen shit.
>>54391288
because amd paid the devs to optimize the game using features which greatly benefit amd hardware. its common knowledge that developers hate async but with amd's sponsorship of games like hitman the devs obviously have to cater towards amd hardware just like nvidia sponsored games cater towards nvidia hardware with gameworks. the devs even came out afterwards and said the amount of time they wasted implementing async in hitman was almost pointless for only a 5%~ performance increase.
this is not to say nvidia won't make devs use hard to implement dx12 features to make games go in their favour. nvidia have snapped up the first full dx12_3 game in bf5 and i can guarantee you it'll perform way better on nvidia hardware and not because of gameworks.
>>54376230 (You)
>>54391250
oh i don't know, recent amd driver improved performance 6% on dx12 games and benches
>>54391201
who the fuck makes those benchmarks? I got stable 60 on my 390 out of box saw a drop maybe twice
whole first week I saw how 970 owners complained about performance though
So I got a grand to spare. Should I stick with my origin plan in getting a 970, or just fuck it and go nuts with a 980ti? Like, what does a 980ti exactly offer, other than playing shit in 1440p?
>>54391715
wait 6 weeks and go for whatever wins in benchmarks
>>54391708
>1440p
all the cards are fine at 1080p. 1440p is a different story as seen the the benchmark.
>inb4 meme resolution
1440p is the only resolution amd fanboys post in these threads (see: >>54391277 as an example) so its only correct to post a 1440p benchmark to counter them.
>>54391756
Funny thing I played at 1440p.
>>54391355
>oy vey you also forgot to lower the resolution so the 970 is not hampered by 3.5gb stupid goy
>>54391773
enjoy that silky smooth 45 fps then, friend.
:^)
>>54391805
>>54391793
>3.5gb meme
come back when you have solid evidence that its actually an issue without posting 4k assassins creed unity benchmarks at 4k running at sub 20 fps.
>Meanwhile GTX 1080 20% faster than a overclocked GTX 980Ti.
>>54391856
If we don't need more than 4gb of vram, then why are all the mid-high end Polaris/pascal going to use 8gb? :^)
>>54391951
this is honestly the most stupid post in this thread.
>>54392016
>I can't counter the higher resolution argument or the fact Nvidia jewed it's customers with 3.5gb, so I'll just call him stupid and present no evidence to the contrary
>>54371223
>It's over Nvidia is finished
are you being sarcastic or can someone fill me in on these memes? 390x isn't even good, it's like a 290x which is like a 780 ti, and 480 is only "close to" as good as 390x
>>54392141
>he doesn't know the answer himself and needs to ask other people on a Japanese image board
>gets told he's stupid for not knowing the answer himself
>b-but 3.5 gb
go and be a retard somewhere else.
>>54392176 (Me)
but i guess it might be good for modern opengl dev (dev on pc, target latest mobile devices) if it's really only $200
>>54392214
I don't need to answer a rhetorical question because the fact it's rhetorical means I already know the answer and I'm just asking the question to highlight your own lack of understanding. AMD performs better at higher resolutions and in the new APIs like DX12/Vulkan. But please, continue posting 1080p benchmarks as if they matter :^)
>>54392257
>AMD performs better at higher resolutions and in the new APIs like DX12/Vulkan
and nvidia generally performs better at higher resolutions in dx11 with less vram than amd cards. whats your point?
nvidia cards are gimped in dx12 anyway so current comparisons are irrelevant to some degree as amd will win 100% of the time. the real dx12 comparison will be with the new cards which fully support all dx12 features.
>But please, continue posting 1080p benchmarks as if they matter
get a load of this guy. he's unironically calling 1080p an irrelevant resolution even though its the most popular resolution in the world currently (tv's and monitors). it makes up 30% of all resolutions in the steam hardware survey whilst ALL resolutions above 1080p make up less than 5%.
i know you're just baiting, but whatever.
>>54391856
I'm pretty sure 970 is running on lower graphics than 390.
>>54392395
how the fuck did you manage to make it use that many resources while still looking worse than it does on my 770?
>>54392409
its a well known problem with msi afterburner fucking up vram usage statistics in gta 5
>>54392448
[citation needed]
>>54392395
>>54392409
>>54392448
You guys are idiots
What does the system do when it runs out of VRAM?
Yeah thats rigth, it starts to share RAM and using it as VRAM
>30fps
As you can see , it hits the perfomance shit ton so it is not favourable
Funny thing , I can run BF4 on ultra 4k without AA >60fps but It stutters like a motherfucker when it runs out VRAM and starts to use RAM for VRAM.
>>54392463
https://www.reddit.com/r/GrandTheftAutoV_PC/comments/3p3hik/gta_memory_limit_wrong_says_im_exceeding_memory/
couldn't find the original source but here's a shitty reddit post with a similar issue. its windows 10 being shit, basically.
>>54392501
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=401346
another relevant thread.
>>54392501
>>54392530
I don't know if this affected it, since this instance was running on window 8.1.
>>54392176
>390x isn't even good, it's like a 290x which is like a 780 ti
jesus that's the most ass backwards logic I've ever heard
>>54392176
honestly I usually tend to get Nvidia cards but my big question here is how will pascal be with DX12? If they don't perform better than maxwell at async compute then I can't imagine a reason not to go red team this generation.
>>54392630
it is definitely whats causing the problem. how is the gpu exceeding the amount of physical vram is has if this wasn't the case.
the 970 has 4096mb of physical vram and the screenshot is showing 4121mb being used. it's probably only using about 1.5gb vram at those settings.
this video shows the game running at way higher settings than the screenshot and it still doesn't get close to 4gb vram. it uses mostly 3.6gb throughout the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6MDUjFiUR4
>>54392703
this
>>54392756
async compute is a meme
>>54392654
>>54392667
>sponsored by AMD games
>>54392887
Far Cry isnt AMD sponsored....
>>54392867
even if it is, it doesnt change the fact that Green cards perform worse on DX12 with same settings as DX11. I've been planning on getting the "pascal x80" card for a while now (currently sitting on a 780) but i dont want to run into issues when dx12 becomes more common
>>54392907
yeah he's wrong but far cry primal has been better on nvidia hardware for some time now anyway.
none of this is important as far cry is a shit game anyway and the cancer is ubisoft needs to get nuked.
>>54392667
>needs a 390x to reach 60fps
>at 1080p
what in the mother of fuck
>>54371223
>amd rumors being true, ever
ok bruh
>>54392962
>60 fps
its 30 fps m8 and the picture is showing 4k benchmarks. literally the most irrelevant flop of a game at the most meme'd resolution. ignore the amdrone fanboy
>>54392962
like i said 390x is like a 290x which is like 780 ti, it's not that good and by now it's like the bare minimum for decent 1080p gaming, even titan x struggles with 1080p gaming
>>54392962
I don't know why you're so surprised. 390X is a performance segment card and a GPU from 2013. There's an entire Fury line above the 390X, its place in the current lineup is pretty much the same as the 7800s to the 7900s.
>>54392932
>I've been planning on getting the "pascal x80" card for a while now (currently sitting on a 780) but i dont want to run into issues when dx12 becomes more common
I'm probably going to buy a 1080 or whatever to replace the 780 in my main pc then do a totally new build around end of year or whenever the rest of the new shit (zen, vega, probably a 1080ti) comes out
>tfw bought a used 290 off craigslist for $220 to replace my 560ti
>can play virtually every game I could want at 1080p
>don't care about 1440p or 2k because I can't afford the monitor to begin with
does anyone buying a 970 or 390 expect to play 2k at reasonable frame rates? you could argue that 2k at medium settings is better than 1080p at ultra, but even then, anyone spending $300 on a videocard probably can't afford a $800 monitor
>>54392988
Whoops I meant the Far Cry bench
So basically AMD has superior architecture and developer support since they've got all console makers in their pocket.
ALL games are developed for AMD gpus in near future.
Just think about how fucking precarious situation NVIDIA is in. It's boxed in Extreme high end gpus and AMD is gnawing at their heels ever closer. Even their Marketing depaetement can't Fight gravity when $200 cards from AMD are murdering anything below NVIDIA xx80 tier which cost $500+.
NVIDIA is walking dead. It's not even funny. They've made hail Mary pass at Tesla and it's not like They can pry 30+% margins from Musk who acvording to all evidence squeezes blood from Stone to keep model 3 Price down.
>>54393723
More like AMDelusion
>>54393723
>le adored tv
>amd world domination xD
end yourself. his theories have been disproven by literally everyone with an unbiased brain.
>>54389049
>>54389918
You small brained retards, offscreen matters because the onscreen benches are set on different resolutions.
e.g. 1080p smartphone vs. 2k display smartphone
Same applies to graphic cards as well, because many benches are done with different resolutions.
You guys are beyond retarded.
>>54393868
It doesn't take a genius to figure out what hardware games will be developed on
Hint: it's not the high end enthusiast market
>>54392703
literally every game, other than GTA V, the 390 outperforms the 970
there's a fuckhuge list that some anon keeps posting, wish I saved it. I'll search more
>>54393935
are you fucking thick? it doesn't matter what hardware the game is developed on. look at dark souls 3 >>54391201 it's developed on 2 consoles with full amd gpu and cpu and has no proprietary software like gameworks and still gets way better performance on nvidia hardware. the only way his theory can even work is if they do in fact release multi gpu consoles alongside multi gpu desktop cards but we all know that's impossible for the next 5 years at least since the next 2 generations of console are confirmed to be single gpu.
also sponsorships change everything. every single AAA game is sponsored by either amd or nvidia but 90% of the time its nvidia and devs will HAVE to optimize for nvidia cards whether they like it or not. all you adoredtv shills think its going to be some fucking stroll to amd world domination where there are like a billion different factors which come into play. amd will never overtake nvidia any time soon.
>>54394039
was it this?
>>54393361
I play witcher 3 at 1440p with an overclocked 290x
>medium foliage distance
>high shadows
>ssao
>ultra everything else
>cutscene lighting mod
framerate dips down into the low 50's here and there but its smooth as butter otherwise
>>54393873
>You small brained retards, offscreen matters because the onscreen benches are set on different resolutions.
why don't they fucking say that then instead of saying "onscreen" vs "offscreen"
just tell people that its fucking whateverthefuck vs 1080p
>>54394061
old drivers.
>>54393723
>NVIDIA is walking dead
Not even close, though it looks like they'll be in for a few shit years until they have product better designed for dx12 & async compute
>>54393868
I loved how his theory just assumed that nvidia would just roll over and die instead of developing something new to better compete with amd
They're much bigger and richer than amd and can still afford a few fuckups, at least
>>54394061
>>54394061
2
>it's an amdpoorfag posts cherry pick benchmarks episode
>>54394061
3
>>54394206
>>54394292
>>54394305
>le old drivers meme
>posts benchmarks sold old the 390 isn't even included in them
nah this actually triggered me. time to find the old gpu folder.
>>54394061
4
>>54394317
the only thing cherry picked is>>54394061
gta V doesn't even have presets and those are all older games before AMD stepped their driver game up
check out 2016 benchs
>>54394292
>>54394305
>>54394325
>>54394061
5
>>54394341
>he thinks that the 970 would beat games it lost to the 290 2 years ago
nah son
>>54394061
6
>>54394061
7
>>54394389
What's the best card to pair with a A6-5200 APU? PCIe 4x only
>>54394061
8
>>54394412
>>54394389
>not posting the DX12 benchmarks
>>54394412
>this faglord using old games
kek
>>54394472
>>54394491
>>54394503
>>54394472
>>54394503
>unoptimized garbage
>>54394491
>no settings listed
see>>54394292
>>54394517
