>Macbooks are overpriced
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
>...
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>>54352981
This thread again
This thread again?
Keep posting this thread again OP, the louder you shout, the more right you are.
>Macbooks are overpriced
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
>...
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>>54352981
...
>>54352981
dude, get a life, you fat fuck
>>54353036
This thread again?
>>54352981
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel themselves has admitted it's utter shit now and has trashed the design to go back to copying 90's era laptops with solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
>if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended
>ultra shit tier zero travel chiclet keyboard
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 4X the CPU/GPU power and 70WHr battery matches it in battery life in same tasks
>gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters
>overheats at the slightest task because abysmal crippled cooling system
>throttles to 800mhz because of chronic overheating problems
>retina meme supposedly for "pros" have have <70% aRGB
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
>macshit is good
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>Macbooks are overpriced
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
>....
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>Macbooks are overpriced
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
>...
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>Macbooks are overpriced
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
>...
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>Macbooks are overpriced
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
>...
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>>54352981
But the razer blade stealth is only $999 retard
http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-blade-stealth
>Macbooks are overpriced
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
>...
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>>54353138
Worse screen (16:9)
Worse touchpad
Razer build quality
>>54353138
>>54353170
Also atrocious battery life. Like really bad.
>>54353170
>>54353201
>mactards have to lie this hard to defend their pile of shit fagbooks
lmao @ ur lyfe
>>54353170
But both a 1440p and 1800p display are stupid on such a small display
>>54353201
Probably, but it can be recharged fairly easily given that the charger is only 45W and uses USB type C
>>54353215
>>54353201
>>54353170
Holy shit BTFO
>>54353215
The Blade 14 is not the stealth. The Blade 14 costs $2k+
>>54353217
>Probably, but it can be recharged fairly easily given that the charger is only 45W and uses USB type C
This is completely irrelevant.
>>54353257
>This is completely irrelevant.
Um how? You can't just up and recharge the macbook easily
>>54353276
Yes you can. You plug in the cable and watch it go.
>>54353287
Obviously I meant while out and about
>>54352981
> retina display
I gagged.
>>54353294
So when you're "out and about" you plug your laptop in to charge and wait until it's fully charged before using it?
>>54353322
I can't imagine plugs are that plentiful
Oh this thread again
> 16:10 meme
> glued together
> sunspot temperature
> retine scaling
> shit aRGB (you know, the one that actually matters)
> OSX
wat a laff.
a slightly better aspect ratio doesn't justify shit
>>54353322
Wait also the stealth has an i7 in it for less, though it's probably still one of the retardedly dual core i7s
>>54352981
Use whatever the fuck you want and stop aidsing the shit out of /g/ with your hard on for Apple.
>>54353059
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
What? Made this post *tapping* in upper edge.
>extremely loose near bottom edge
What does this even mean
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
This is way too general to be a valid point.
>even applel themselves has admitted it's utter shit now and has trashed the design to go back to copying 90's era laptops with solid non-click touchpads
What. The touchpads still click.
>still has no real buttons
What are gestures? You can right click with the two finger click.
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
It doesn't *rely* on it by any stretch of the imagination.
>ultra shit tier zero travel chiclet keyboard
Yep just like every other highend laptop manufacturer including Lenovo.
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
K, well it does get pretty much a full workday of battery life if you don't watch movies or someshit.
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>Heavy
Have you looked at the specs? Like at all?
>gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
I know several people with computers from the Yoga line and use a Yoga 11s every day at work and I can say that the screws shook out of the bottom of the laptop causing the bottom plate to catch on things (they do not offer replacement screws) and the screws holding the keyboard fell out so that pulls up too. The trackpad is extremely unreliable and won't even work if you're pressing a key down on the keyboard. There is virtually no powersaving features practice: I often deactivate sleep mode to a computer that was charged last night reporting 7% battery left, don't even get me fucking started on the window scaling with Windows on the Yoga Pros, there is no middle ground if you plug in a 1080p screen. Sometimes the mouse and keyboard just shut off and force you to use the touchscreen. The WiFi module only supports the 2.4GHz band.
Out of space, basically you're stupid.
>>54353525
>Crutch
>I'm illiterate
>Force Crutch™
>Crutch for lack of buttons
>Gimmick has even less use than both anons could have imagined possible
>Idling computer = Usage
>weight that could have gone to structural integrity devoted to xbox hueg battery
>Anecdotal evidence
>install gentoo
You should have a date with the other anon with a long walk off a short pier. You both seem to have a hardon for ChinkTops.
>>54352981
>$1300
>128GB storage
>>54353781
You're welcome to refute the OP.
>>54353824
Read the thread
>>54353834
I've read the thread
>>54353843
Then there you have it
>>54353853
If you have nothing to contribute, then leave the thread.
>Macbooks are overpriced
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
>...
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>>54353860
Read the thread, I've added plenty.
>>54353824
>$1300
>128GB storage
>>54353866
The OP hasn't been refuted. If you are talking about this >>54353346, then it's nice that there's an i7 for less, but at some point we have to realize that more powerful components isn't worth literally (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/03/razer-blade-stealth-review-what-happens-when-gamers-make-a-regular-laptop/) less than half the battery life when doing simple tasks like web browsing. If the Blade had an external GPU in it for the same price it would still be worse, because laptops are laptops and we don't want to have to have them plugged in most of the day.
This thread again.
Summary
>sane anons:
>but removable/replaceable X
>but performance
>but durability
>but cooling
>but no ports
>but build quality (link to youtube mac repair guy)
>but thin doesn't matter i actually have testosterone
>but thinkpad has better battery life
>lol nvme ssd but OS with shit I/O performance
>trolls:
>WELL SOME PEOPLE JUST WANT TO BE FABULOUS
>YOU'RE ALL AUTISM AND ALSO FAT
>APPLE SAID LOCAL IS DEPRECATED USE ICLOUD
>>54353895
Just turn off the computer and walk away, anon.
>>54353895
External GPU > dedicated GPU
>>54353895
I'm sorry there isn't an exact clone of your piece of shit, senpai. Nothing is gonna be the end all over any other notebook.
>>54353895
>The OP hasn't been refuted. If you are talking about this >>54353346, then it's nice that there's an i7 for less, but
I believe that that is an admission that OP has been refuted.
>>54353895
External laptop battery m8.
>>54353895
Teach me how to get so many (You)'s
>>54353900
I'll take that as you bowing out.
>>54353945
That doesn't make the laptop any less worse.
>>54353966
Not before your overpriced tin can does.
>>54352981
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
Surface Book.
>>54353965
Just be right.
>>54353987
Link?
>>54353895
tldr
if you find a better laptop it won't be better without a fuckhuge battery because more powerful hardware sucks more juice. if you find something with the same specs and same life, it'll probably be thicker, have more ports, and a subjectively inferior screen because few companies other than apple prioritize form over function (as few companies market to aids ridden homos and manlets)
that means it's either a macbook but impossible for an aids ridden homo/manlet to lift, just as small with inferior battery life, or is thin and is unusable for manlets and skeletal aids-ridden homos
despite "equal" machines costing as much or more, the aids ridden homos have no reason to buy anything but apple. it's just the best laptop brand for aids ridden homos.
>>54352981
>$1300
>cant play skyrim
Even shitty acer laptops do better for half the price do better
>meme
>>54353996
>Link?
https://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/devices/surface-book
>>54354006
Shitty acer laptops are hard for aids ridden homos to lift
They also have worse battery life, so an aids ridden homo can't use one for too long while at the doctor for their regular aids-related checkup since they're too weak to carry an AC adapter
>>54353059
>ive obviously never used something and so i hate it
You are a fucking moron, all of this is horse shit and is either a troll or pure ignorance. Fuck apple and fuck you for propagating all the wrong reasons to hate them.
>>54354013
It's not the exact same machine but better and somehiw cheaper, opinion discarded
t. Mac Autist
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/mobile-computing/laptops/surface-book-2-release-date-news-and-rumors-1319644
Surface Book 2 release date
Naturally, the company has not officially announced the product given that the Surface Book launched mere months ago. However, it's easy to speculate that a follow up is in the works, and could possibly arrive by the end of the year, next to the Surface Pro 5.
But, here's the thing: Microsoft's Anniversary Update slated for this summer is widely believed to be part one of two "Redstone" updates slated to arrive on Windows 10. Recent rumors indicate that Redstone 2 (RS2) wouldn't arrive until sometime early 2017, next to new branded hardware devices and the long-awaited Surface Phone, all of which will take direct advantage of the new RS2 features.
Added to this early 2017 theory is that the Surface Book 2 is expected to use a "Kaby Lake," 14-nanometer processor from Intel, which is slated to go into volume production at the end of the year. This processor family will offer native USB 3.1 support, Thunderbolt 3 support, feature up to four cores as the default configuration, and better performance both on the CPU front and GPU front. Windows 10 will be the only Microsoft-based platform that will support these chips.
>>54354005
A better screen is not form, it's function.
>>54354013
The surface book starts at $200 more expensive than the 13" rMBP. Not to mention it has a 3:2 screen (lol?), worse trackpad and will probably scratch your desk.
And no, it doesn't matter if there's a sale and it's $150 off. I can get rMBPs for cheaper than $1300 too.
>>54354042
>feature up to four cores as the default configuration
>>54354053
Who cares? What do you need a Mac for?
>>54353732
Surface Book
>Powerful laptop
The first full laptop has arrived in the Surface family. Surface Book is a powerful laptop with a full sized, backlit keyboard for fast and natural typing.
>Portable clipboard
The 13.5” PixelSense™ display detaches easily from the keyboard to become a thin, light tablet that works perfectly with OneNote and Surface Pen.
>Creative canvas
Turn the screen around and reattach it to use Surface Book like a creative canvas. By reconnecting it to the keyboard, you unlock its full creative power in a pen first mode.
>>54354062
to look cool, duh!
>>54354031
>>54354053
Why'd you post the same thing twice?
>>54354082
You're an idiot.
>>54354053
>And no, it doesn't matter if...
I believe that that is the second time OP has been refuted. Oh my.
>>54354042
SB2 can suck my dick the real news would be the SP5, hopefully it gets a TB3 port
>>54354042
SB looks nice in pictures but it's really mild in person and the tablet-frankenstein mode is awkward to maneuver into. SP4 completely owns it in most regards including looks
>>54352981
>muh thinness
>>54354418
A FUCKING PORT
>>54354013
So it's $200 more, while having much worse trackpad and Windows.
A good example if you wanted to prove that rMBP is dirt cheap for what it offers.
>>54354430
One for charging, one for headphones. Sounds sufficient.
>>54354662
Port cuck
>>54354700
>he uses other ports on his mobile device
Do you bitch about phones or watches having no ports either?
>>54354761
>his laptop has the usability of a phone
>>54354761
>USB port
>IR port
>Headphone port
>Applefag tear receptacle port
Naw, I think I'm good not being cucked.
>>54354770
>being this dumb
Each device has a certain functionality, where its best at. Adding ports don't add much to a laptops usability, since a desktop is better suited for anything requiring ports.
>>54354836
>Being this cucked
Want to tell me how you're never gonna come across a flash drive ever again?
>>54354859
Can plug that into the USB port.
>>54354905
>100 burger adapter
>>54354917
?
Don't need an adapter to plug in a USB drive.
Asus UX303UB. $1200, 3200x1800 touch screen, 12gb RAM, i7, 512gb ssd. Chassis is aluminum and .8 inches thick.
>>54353170
It has an option for a fucking 4k touchscreen IGZO at full gamut.
Touchpad is equal or better
Everything else Razer makes is shit build quality plastic, but their laptops and core are high quality metal.
>>54354946
Not in thE Macbook you can't.
>>54354983
It has a USB port.
>>54354859
If you still use them, you could just plug them into your desktop.
Why do you have to plug a flash drive on the run?
>>54354957
>http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/ASUS-ZenBook-UX303UB-UH74T-Signature-Edition-Laptop/productID.328071200
This one?
100 bucks less but also much lower battery life and much worse trackpad. Also bigger but slower SSD and correct me if I am wrong but it looks like screen quality is inferior. It's not too bad overall but not exactly rMBP level even if we ignore the OS.
>>54354959
>Touchpad is equal or better
You're high, nigga. Even most poorfags can agree that not a single trackpad on Windows comes close.
>>54354997
USB C though, given how /g/ loves outdated technology, most probably still have USB 2.0 drives.
>>54354997
Not really universal since Type C flash drives aren't going to be what you come across in the wild.
>>54355013
Why do you let your notebook dictate what you can and can't do? Do you expect having to to haul your sorry ass over to a real computer to fagdrop it back to your Cuckbook?
>>54355035
Is there a point to this nonsense?
>>54355048
Not really, since I don't get cucked by my ports, or lack thereof.
>>54355064
Then do us all a favor and leave the thread, shitposter.
>>54355013
>http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-Zenbook-UX303UB-Core-i7-6500U-GeForce-940M-Subnotebook-Review.156065.0.html
Also looks like the CPU is slower than Broadwell Air in some scenarios. Well done, Asus.
>>54355035
>Why do you let your notebook dictate what you can and can't do?
Yeah, why can't I use floppies on my laptop :(
>>54355068
Sad, desu, senpai. Can't even justify a 1k per port notebook.
>>54355080
>>>54355018
I'll be the cuck in a few years, sure, when they stop making type A drives. But for now, let apple dig further into your wallets and even further into your poopchute.
>>54355105
Why do you use usb drives at all? It makes no sense on a laptop and is an once in a year occasion on desktop.
As you noticed, the Macbook lacks a floppy drive too, why don't you bitch about it?
>>54355147
Have you been reading anything that's been posted or has the applecock pushed out from the back of your eyesockets?
If you're trying to convince anyone that floppy disks are as prevalent as flash drives in a vain attempt to justify your One Port per Laptop program, you need a serious reality check.
>>54355213
>floppy disks are as prevalent as flash drives
Both are outdated, useless technologies, only still used by your grandma to show you cat pictures or some shit.
When did you use a flash drive last time? What for?
>>54355147
>once a year occasion
Do you just not do anything on your laptop? I would just bring my phone with me if I were just going to browse, but when I want to get any real work done while I'm out, I'll bring a laptop.
That said, my laptop's a macbook pro 15", but that's because it came with my tuition and I wasn't allowed to opt out. If I had been able to keep the money, I would have gotten anything else. Anything else.
>>54355261
So what is this real work (tm) you talk about exactly? Why does it require flash drives?
>>54355260
>when did you use a flash drive last time?
Last week
>what for?
Ran a Unity build from the drive, because the speed cap of a USB drive, with the addition of walking up and down a flight of stairs, is still faster than dealing with Dropbox/github
>>54352981
>i paid over 1300$ to browse facebook on my iFag
>>54355013
Surface touchpads are identical to Mac Trackpads. One advantage of the Apple + Microsoft Cross Licensing policy.
Ever wondered why the Surface is the only other laptop line that incorporates magnetic chargers?
>>54353059
so many lies in just one post
>>54355314
All true, macfaggot.
>>54355299
>Ran a Unity build
Why would you do that on a LAPTOP?
>is still faster than dealing with Dropbox/github
Why not store it on your homeserver?
>>54355310
They are physically similar but software is what really sets Mac trackpads apart from the rest. Kinda the opposite of Sony, who put great cameras into their phones but absolutely ruin them with their software.
>>54355281
>real work(TM)
Making literally any file.
I could A:
>put the file on a drive as soon as I finish it, go home to desktop, open file
Or B:
>finish it, go home, start my laptop back up, manually move the files onto my home's storage, get on my desktop, and open the file
I don't see the logic in doing B willingly.
>>54355352
Both Surface and Apple trackpads are exactly the same in responsiveness and pinch/scroll gestures. 3-4 finger swipes are however different and each OS has its own advantages. Windows lets you switch tasks with 3 swipes and desktops with 4 swipes, takes some getting used to if you're used Expose & Mission Control. Both feel great and I never felt like plugging in a mouse to any of these.
All the shills telling you their XPS or Asus touchpads are just as good are fucking kidding themselves, Lenovo comes close though.
>>54355352
>why would you do that on a LAPTOP?
Testing it on a separate !machine, testing it on underpowered hardware, etc.
>>54355385
Or C:
Put the file on Google Drive/Dropbox/etc (which also provides automatic backups of previous file versions), go home to desktop and open file.
Just because you're so fucking retarded that you can't take advantage of newer technologies doesn't mean that the industry should stoop to your level. Not even the mactard here.
>>54355422
>uploading on public wifi
I don't have all day, man. Plus I deal with video files and shit. I'd have to start paying for drive/Dropbox if I used it, and they both have bugs too often for me to feel alright doing that.
Last time I looked at dropbox's site it literally gave up trying to load my public folder. Which was less than 50 MB. On a wired connection.
>>54355400
Well, fair enough. Though wouldn't the hardware be bit TOO underpowered (assuming it's an ultrabook)?
>>54355385
>>54355422
There is also D, you transfer the file to your desktop over network, although C is slightly more elegant, specially with Continuity.
>>54355393
How about the two finger back gesture? Though from the sound of it, it's really something different from the usual Winshit trackpad. Never had the chance to test Surface in a store here.
>>54355472
Why not starting the upload the moment you arrive at home?
>>54355472
Unlimited 4G for 20 euros per month. I can't believe how shit internet is in America, isn't even worth it to even have a smartphone over there.
>>54355422
Apple fanboys are pretty crazy to act like Dropbox is the industry standard. If you've actually worked at any point of your life you'd know that you either e-mail it to who needs it prior or put it on a zip diskette to move it to your work desktop.
Professionals have deadlines to their work.
>>54355485
then what? Download it again when I'm at the office to continue? Flash drives are leagues faster and allow you to work on one file
>>54353884
> Th !e. FaGconO6
???
>>54355808
shhh, he thinks its cool
>>54352981
k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834264394
>>54355837
>hp
Instant disqualification.
>>54355865
naw, only HP with nVidia turn into molten time bombs
>>54352981
As a video editor, I'd change my 1900$ editing WinOS laptop for a MBP anyday because of Papers && FinalCut Pro
>>54355872
Probooks are just garbage Pavilions with a different badge targeted for small businesses, just like what Dell does with their Vostros, basically Inspiron rebrands. HP Elitebook and Zbooks are their serious computers.
>>54355924
true, but the specs are overall superior in this case, that's all that was asked.
>>54355941
OP mentioned build quality too. Also ultrabooks and all.
Also you linked some 17" brick with ridiculous 1080p screen that weights like 2 rMBPs.
>>54355941
Only the R7 GPU is better, but the CPU is slower than the one in the Mac. A 15W i7 doesn't even come close to the 28W one in the Mac.
>>54355975
It's a 28W CPU that's constantly throttled though.
>>54355973
just the screen and the weight, everything else is better, maybe the battery life.
>>54355975
it's an i5, speaking of that i7 CPU though, I've noticed that the new MBP run really fucking hot.
I've had to install smcfancontroller on quite a few of them to bring it under 55c
>>54355986
And yet you post a HP, which is the worst offender in this regard.
>>54356007
Or touchpad, or SSD ... it's like it's shit, but hey, it's shit with an ded. gpu!
>>54356008
Not the same guy, I hate HP laptops.
>>54356018
most touchpads have gesturing now, how is it inferior?
SSD is SSD, you won't notice a difference on SATA
is that a bad GPU? I'm unfamiliar with the R7
>>54352981
nothing is perfect. buy what fits you.
>>54355986
>constantly throttled
[citation needed]
>>54356007
Yeah, Mac has been really disappointing since Yosemite came out, they were absolute perfection on Mavericks. Now the 13" Retinas struggle to even render their own UI in 1440x900 (Hi-DPI) and higher modes and heat up massively in general use.
I have been moving more and more off my Haswell rMBP13 over to my Surface.
>>54355837
Worse screen
HP build quality
Worse SSD
Worse trackpad
Brick
Shit battery
>>54352981
Asus 305
Xps 13
Literally anything is better than Cuckbook
Go home o.p, you're shitposting
>>54356034
>most touchpads have gesturing now, how is it inferior?
Not to the same level, and just looking at it, doesn't exactly inspire confidence in its quality even for more basic shit.
>you won't notice a difference on SATA
Good that rMBP got NVMe then, eh?
>is that a bad GPU? I'm unfamiliar with the R7
Well, it is but it's better than the integrated one on rMBP, making the GPU the only part that is actually better.
>>54356054
I've been fixing problems with the surface as well, mostly a boot error, where you have to do a hard reset to get it to boot up.
>>54356058
is it a shit battery I can't tell?
The screen is irrelevant the Intel GPU won't be able to render anything approaching that res outside of the UI
yeah HP builds garbage
SSD is irrelevant, it will perform the same on SATA
fill me in on the trackpad please
yeah it's 3 lbs heavier but it won't overheat on idle
>>54356075
XPS 13 is overshilled garbage, literally any current ultrabook is better than that piece of shit. Any XPS recommendation on /g/ should result in an instant ban.
b-but muh memezels.
Zenbook is pretty great though.
>>54356075
>Asus 305
It's a poorfag 12" Macbook/Air and doesn't even compete with rMBP.
>Xps 13
More expensive for Americucks, much worse battery life, worse trackpad.
>>54356098
>The screen is irrelevant the Intel GPU won't be able to render anything approaching that res outside of the UI
Sounds like you're a time traveler or something. It's not a fucking HD3000 on your cuckpad.
>>54356098
I have the Surface 3, the Atom one. It sounds stupid that I'm replacing a Ultrabook Mac with it, but that's just how bad the OSX situation is getting. Apple just sucks at optimizing their Operating Systems.
>>54356126
Why not just install Linux on it?
>>54356126
> I'm replacing a Ultrabook Mac
Wat.
XPS 13 is much better
>>54356098
>SSD is irrelevant
>The screen is irrelevant
You are absolutely clueless. Leave the thread.
>>54356134
Because it doesn't have the software I regularly use.
>>54356140
rMBP13, Haswell.
>trackpad takes up half the space
that's just criminal
>>54356097
I mean, the touchpad is just a regular pad with separate buttons. Last macbook I repaired the touchpad lifted off because the battery swelled up and the guy was pounding on it showing me it didn't click.
>NVMe
oh yeah, I must have missed that, my bad
I don't expect that GPU to be able to run games or anything, just offload some pressure from the CPU.
>>54356114
que? the retina display is neat but you can't display anything better than 1080p on an integrated mobile Intel GPU in the real world without stuttering. At least I've never seen it.
>>54356126
I suppose you could use the planned obsolescence argument with apple but no one ever seem to care.
>>54352981
just off the top of my head, the xps 13 is the same price and better at everything than a mbp, except maybe weight. Im sure there's others too
2012 rmbp here
def overpriced but there was nothing equivalent at the time
still runs well, although battery only lasts 1-2 hours doing light tasks now (~1200 cycles) so I pretty much bring my charger everywhere
also the ethernet dongle is an absolute pile of shit
line in audio would have been nice
overall though, I can't really complain, it's served me quite well so far and probably will for at least another year
>>54356155
>you can't display anything better than 1080p on an integrated mobile Intel GPU in the real world without stuttering
>>54356148
I made a mistake with the SSD comment, still haven't seen the MBP screen be anything but a novelty
>>54356166
Post your coconutbattery specs pls.
http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/
>>54356172
like I said, I've never seen it work properly, I might be mistaken.
>>54356185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELIpfXC5Q1w
>>54356201
>smooth hardware-accelerated video playback
wew lad
really special
>>54356201
Is that being viewed in a browser or from a video file?
>>54356177
>>54356149
What exactly are you doing on it that runs better on Atom Surface? Sounds like it's either fucked on the hardware side or you're talking shit, mate.
>>54356155
>the touchpad is just a regular pad with separate buttons
Doesn't say ... anything about how it performs in real world, while Apple trackpads are pretty much flawless, specially force touch ones.
>you can't display anything better than 1080p on an integrated mobile Intel GPU in the real world without stuttering.
What exactly do you mean with it? The GPU is perfectly fine for anything you'd do on a ultrabook, obviously gaming isn't one of the things.
Besides, you're missing the point completely, anon, and you sound a lot more reasonable than the usual "lolmacbook sux"- crowd ... so I don't get how you manage to miss it so bad. OP asked for a comparable laptop to a 13'3" rMBP, with similar specs (cpu/ram/ssd/screen/weight/etc)
>>54356166
To be fair, they are rated 1000, and 2012 rMBP wasn't exactly great at battery life in the first place. Though 1-2h still sounds damn low.
>>54356213
Does it matter? It's 4k video on the GPU you claimed could do nothing but produce stutter above 1080p.
>>54352981
>Macbooks are overpriced
Let's be real, only poor people say this.
>show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
They can't, they will save up enough money for something more expensive that gives less than a Macbook purely to avoid having to admit they were wrong.
>>54356233
You realize a 50$ android box can do that too since a VPU handles all the work?
>>54356245
It doesn't matter. I'm not claiming it's impressive. I'm just pointing out how that guy was wrong.
>>54356229
>Besides, you're missing the point completely, anon, and you sound a lot more reasonable than the usual "lolmacbook sux"- crowd ... so I don't get how you manage to miss it so bad. OP asked for a comparable laptop to a 13'3" rMBP, with similar specs (cpu/ram/ssd/screen/weight/etc)
Thanks, I haven't slept for like 29 hours, maybe I'll just go to bed and look at how dumb I've been in the morning. Sorry for shitting up the thread I guess.
>>54356233
It sort of matters, if it's running from a file it's not using as many resources.
>>54356250
And I'm pointing out that the guy was likely not talking about video playback. Just because you can do that in 4k stutter-free does not mean general desktop usage will be stutter-free too.
>>54356263
Desktop usage doesn't stutter on a rMBP. Christ almighty.
>>54356267
You're video does absolutely nothing to disprove that though.
>>54356267
>Desktop usage doesn't stutter on a rMBP
Anybody who owns one knows that is absolutely not true.
>>54356267
Maybe if you buy one with a non-shit GPU.
But then you can't claim it's competitively priced anymore.
>>54356284
Negro please, my Broadwell 12" Macbook doesn't stutter in desktop usage; with 3-4 desktops open, 40+ tabs in the browser, 3-4 office files open and standard shit like iTunes and iMessage.
>>54353525
i've been going at it since 7 am, now 6 hours later i still have 70% battery.
>>54356337
really?
every apple machine I've used seems to get that rainbow of doom just having 4 programs open and 3 tabs in safari
>>54356337
Either you're just like an Android user, you don't know better, or you're deluding yourself.
Simply scrolling in Finder will result in stutter.
>>54356360
No you don't, unless you literally let it idle with wi-fi and screen off.
I love how Apple fags argue 16:10 for vertical pixels when retina upscaling sucks up the space they actually have
>>54356392
Also, they call 3:2 shit whenever it gets mentioned.
iFags are literal cucks.
Why are macfags always so full of shit?
I stopped taking them seriously ever since I tried OS 9, which macfags claimed was stable at the time.
>>54356408
And I stopped taking vaccines seriously when some kid got autism.
>>54356398
wth uses 3:2 though? of the top of my head ik SP4 and iPad Pro
>>54356386
>>54352981
Slide this shitty shill thread please
The XPS 13 beats it with a smaller form factor and the ability to get a higher resolution screen.
>>54356429
Yes, proven medical methods are completely comparable to overhyped consumer shit...
Full of shit as always, macfag.
Why don't you do the world a favour and use alternative medicine like your leader and die of mistreated cancer?
>>54356373
>just having 4 programs open
Which programs? Obviously something really tasking will make it stutter but that's given with every machine.
Only had beachballs when Safari bugs, or with Yosemite.
>>54356374
>Either you're just like an Android user
Actually still using it until my SE arrives and the lag on it is pretty easy to notice, very common and easy to reproduce. Totally different story here.
>Simply scrolling in Finder will result in stutter.
Usually got 4-5 tabs open there too and the only way to cause slow downs for half a second is using cover flow and scrolling through huge folders VERY fast. Given you have to actively try to force it, I'd say it's a non issue.
>>54356392
16:10 is not only better because of vertical pixels, simply having more physical space is nice. Besides, you're not forced to use Retina.
>>54356398
Only cucks call it shit, 3:2 is as nice as 16:10 and companies who push it are great.
>>54356054
Snow leopard and mountain lion were the best os's I've ever used, where did it go wrong?
>>54352981
the new macbook pro's with polaris would be fuckin amazin.
It would be on par with my old 670 desktop that is 4 years old, finally!
>inb4 no actual battery life
Hold on till next post
>>54356530
>Anonymous 05/03/16(Tue)13:52:09 No.54
>>54356429
was that kid you?
>>54356543
Battery thread? Battery thread!
>>54356543
>2 reddit tabs and Windows
The memes
>>54356472
>you're not forced to use Retina
You're still paying for it
>>54356543
>lost 3% just for you to take a screenshot
>trusting the battery meter of any OS
XPS shills are desperate now that there's more competition from RBS shills.
>>54356599
You're also paying for Bluetooth, so what?
If you need more desktop space, you can simply use the native resolution of the screen.
>>54356615
>If you need more desktop space, you can simply use the native resolution of the screen.
>implying you can on that locked down piece of shit crapple OS.
>>54356592
It's actually improving! M-maybe the OS isn't a great indicator?
>>54356629
Yes you can, stop shitposting for a second and educate yourself.
>>54356615
Bluetooth is included, Retina costs extra buckaroos
>>54356611
>implying I've just plugged cable out to take ss
>implying i havent been in uni since 8am morning unplugged to anywhere
>>54356645
The same extra buckaroos any good high resolution screen costs. Retina is just the name of scaling, which works flawlessly with the OS and every program, unlike the hit or miss shit on Windows or Linux.
>>54356659
>windows phone
Yep, thanks for proving that you're a shill. Enjoying that briefing before you head off to reddit for more shilling pajeet?
>>54356635
Where were you when Apple made self charging batteries?
>>54356669
>i cant accept the fact that macbook is inferior
>therefore you must be a shill
If I was a shill I'd be using a microsoft phone.
>>54356659
>Microsoft phone and Microsoft laptop
*gags*
>>54356697
I don't use a Mac, I'm just doing my best to extinguish all xps shills from /g/. It's a fucking garbage laptop. Literally any other ultrabook is better than that piece of shit. Only retards fall for that bezel meme.
>>54356659
3% in 5 hours?
No offence but I think you're lying.
>>54356728
He is, it barely gets better battery life than the Razer Blade 12" laptop, which got shit reviews for battery.
>>54352981
STOP MAKING THIS FUCKING THREAD ALREADY
>>54356714
pic related
>>54356728
Batteries deplete when device is not on too. I've started using it like 30 mins ago.
>>54356697
We can see your file names you stupid fucking redditor
>>54352981
>4k
>intergrated gpu
>laptop
LEL
>>54356764
>uses macfag shilling tactics on his shitty dell
Kill yourself you fucking piece of shit.
>Macbooks are overpriced
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1300 rMBPs are light, have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, outstanding battery life, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
>...
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
I would consider a macbook if the thing ran linux. osx is a fucking miserably shitty os though.
>>54356862
Why is OSX bad for you?
Macbooks run Linux but you lose out on features (Linux scaling is shit and you lose touchpad gestures)
>>54356947
Why are you showing off your MBP webcam?
>>54356780
Poor people still can't apparently.
>>54356862
OSX is UNIX based anon, not to mention macbooks run all major GNU/Linux distros
>>54352981
>>54357042
>OSX is UNIX based anon
Not system level it isn't. I don't care what group Apple paid off to get the certification, but if you do anything remotely kernel level, OSX is a shitshow. They have core systems functions just not written, only prototyped.
I hate Apple so much you wouldn't believe it.
>>54357097
We all know certifications are complete bullshit and just marketing. Unless Apple parades them of course, then they're genuine marks of quality
>>54357097
Not making any comment on whether or not OSX is shit, just stating that it's well documented fact that it's UNIX based
>>54357244
being unix is not a mark of anything. unix is not infallible and perfect.
>>54357097
>but if you do anything remotely kernel level
Such as?
>>54357255
say that to the people who like to post that silly Apple ad and think that speaks for its quality
>>54354418
>vertical USB
fucking lol
>>54357260
Not going to out myself completely on /g/, but I wrote a little library to get a certain kind of hardware information for reasons. Linux was trivial, FreeBSD was easy, Windows was easy once you learn to stomach the Win32 API. It still doesn't work right on Macs because they just don't give you certain functions that every unix distribution is supposed to have. They even had comments in the headers like "yeah this doesn't work, sorry", no exaggeration.
>>54354042
They need to release a surface book without the tablet meme gimmick; I would never use the pen and having it be top heavy as the trade off for the tablet functionality that I'd never use is retarded
Otherwise surface book is the best laptop I've seen
>>54356862
Why don't you just run linux on it?
>>54356870
Unix. Macbooks run Unix, not Linux.
>>54356764
> Applefags thinking that Macbooks are an elites-only exclusive that no one can afford when really they're mass-produced and pretty much any college kid has one
Buddy anyone with half a job can afford a Macbook these days, some people just don't want to spend the money on it because they know it's a shit product that doubles as a frying pan throttles like a fucking dune buggy
>>54357697
Woosh
>>54357802
>some people just don't want to spend the money on it
Sure but you're not one of them. Don't even pretend, poorfag-chan.
>>54357978
Banks exist, friendo. Did you know they also give you extra money called 'interest' if you leave your money in them.
Have you heard of owning and renting land?
Do you know what credit is and how to use it?
In a first-world country, no one is too poor to own a Macbook.
>>54358101
Some are poor enough to constantly try to validate their purchase choice here though.
>>54358101
This implies people are decent with money and there are tons of poorfags in the first world who can't buy a macbook without lowering their life quality. Which is ... irrelevant and not exactly the point. You're clearly a poorfag.
Non-poorfags don't bitch about Macbook prices. 1300 is pocket money for anybody with a job.
>>54353170
>worse screen
Worse aspect ratio, higher resolution. Moot.
>worse trackpad
I know macfags assume their trackpads are the opus magna of pointing devices, but do you actually have a comparison for this?
>>54353334
Come on nigga, 16:10 is great.
What is glued together? I thought the chassis used screws.
>>54353525
>it gets through the day
Because they crammed it full of battery, OS X is still shit at energy efficiency because it's an OS made by designers.
>>54358260
>Non-poorfags don't bitch about Macbook prices
Non-poorfags don't seek out external validation for something that's just over 1k.
Do you see someone actual rich brag about his solid gold faucets here and calling everyone who doesn't have them poorfags?
No you don't, because why would they care what you think?
>>54358260
>1300
>pocket money
This proves that you are a poor-fag and a lier.
1300 isn't pocket money for anybody, whether they have money or not.
I have money. 1300 is a lot of money regardless of why my bank account says.
People who think 1300 is pocket money won't have money for long.
>>54352981
http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9350-laptop-ubuntu/pd
>>54358386
my mommy and daddy got it for me on xmas
so it's essentially free, poorfag
>>54358330
>Worse aspect ratio, higher resolution. Moot.
Fair point, although higher resolution is a questionable benefit with Windows and makes you very dependant on 3rd party software not messing it up.
>but do you actually have a comparison for this?
You can read literally any review, or try them in store. They are pretty based even at doing normal trackpad stuff, once you add gestures, there is simply no comparison.
>>54358361
>they crammed it full of battery,
Doesn't the Retina Macbook have a much smaller battery than that Asus clone yet lasts longer even than 1080p version? rMBP might have a slightly larger battery than the average ultrabook though.
>>54358366
I don't see anybody with a macbook bragging about it either, people just call out poor people who pretend that it's expensive.
>>54358386
>I have money. 1300 is a lot of money regardless of why my bank account says.
It's literally one week of work for a student intern, if that's not pocket money, what is?
>People who think 1300 is pocket money won't have money for long.
Grandpa please.
>>54358437
>you can try it
I have tried the trackpad. Good, but not really great. I can't try the Razer though so I was looking for a comparison.
If you haven't tried both to some extent, why are you saying the Macbook's trackpad is better?
>>54358437
> don't see anybody with a macbook bragging about it either,
nice reality distortion field
>>54358535
Is this your first...sorry second day here?
>>54358551
No I'm just sick of these threads
>>54358560
It's called hiding it and moving on with your life.
>>54358437
I don't know about the Asus clone nor do I care because that has too many variables. If you install Windows on a macbook you get better battery life. OS X sucks at energy efficiency even on the hardware it's made for.
>>54358576
I'm on clover it doesn't let me hide threads
>>54358576
Should we tell him how many threads are created day after day? dpt, desktop, hpg, csg, tpg,.. yeah..
>>54358588
Don't browse 4chan like a nigger then
>>54358596
Fuck you I need to shitpost while I shit
>>54358593
>generals are the same as a bait thread
