>women acknowledge the fact that women are underrepresented in tech fields
>/g/ stomps their feet and bitches about le ebil femenazis while screaming about how girls arent interested in tech
>women agree and create programs and companies to get more girls interested into programing
>/g/ still bitches and whines and now makes fun of these people
what's the matter /g/? are you afraid that women are going to take your job?
>implying representation is necessary
Filling a quota of what sex or race you hire is fucking stupid.
>>54349975
This isn't up for discussion.
Competent female programmers who are on the same level as men are literal unicorns, and this isn't because they do not exist, it's because they are being overshadowed and publicly humiliated by the "LE GIRL CODER XD" movement, which has done nothing but infantilize and degrade women for the last 6 years, and they don't even realize it.
>>54350088
This, so much.
The only way women will take over is if there was a difference between what they and men are paid
>>54349975
here's your reply
>>54350282
Why do people still believe in the wage gap?
if it was really true, companies would fire all men and replace them with women to reduce their operating costs by 30%
>>54350314
Even obama believes in it, I wonder what bernie and trump think, I haven't followed either as I'm not from the US
>>54350259
And what might you think is responsible for women being so underrepresented in programming? Some biological mechanism that makes them disinterested in it?
Bro tip: in the 50's and 60's programming was considered a woman's job and they did it just fine, and this was at a time when you didn't have cushy high level languages like C# and python.
>>54350365
Good job missing his point
>>54350088
so you're angry with them for trying to get more women into programming because representation isn't necessary?
>>54350391
We are angry that they are getting hired JUST for being a women. It should be skill and only skill.
>>54350365
>Bro tip: in the 50's and 60's programming was considered a woman's job and they did it just fine,
Big gap between punching pre-designed patterns onto binders' worth of cards, and computer science. Difference is, today we've eliminated the jobs for those hole-punchers and our computer scientists learned to code in cushy IDEs instead.
the programmers were often female, but the computer scientists were not.
>>54350391
No because picking a person based on physical attributes rather than competency is dumb.
>>54350365
>Some biological mechanism that makes them disinterested in it?
Women don't generally enjoy solitary hobbies that have a giant up front learning curve before you can make anything worthwhile.
Plus, there's the whole thing about women getting ostracized by other women for having socially unacceptable "nerd" hobbies.
By the way, liking big bang theory and ocarina of time does not make you a nerd.
>Bro tip: in the 50's and 60's programming was considered a woman's job and they did it just fine
Back in those days, programming was also men's work.
The computer scientists wrote your machine code and you'd pass it off to the computer room for the women to do the grunt work of data entry and operating the switchboards.
Nothing has changed.
>>54350391
If the best applicants are all men, then they should be hired. Quotas should never be used. There's nothing wrong with an industry being 100% male or 100% female.
>>54350423
what percentage of women applying do you believe are being hired for their gender?
>>54350088
/thread.
Hire for skill not what bits are between your legs.
If a women is good at programming and good at her job then I can't complain.
>>54350452
>Women don't generally enjoy solitary hobbies that have a giant up front learning curve before you can make anything worthwhile.
>generalizing 3.5 billion people
>Plus, there's the whole thing about women getting ostracized by other women for having socially unacceptable "nerd" hobbies.
Yes, and that's what the outreach programs you were just complaining about are trying to make acceptable. What's your point?
>>54350433
Honest question, what's the merit if an intelligent individual with as much theory and competence as any other developer, save he or she works at half the speed due to physical disability?
My bro-in-law is almost completely physically disabled, and is trying to enter this field. I'm having trouble deciding for or against his merit due to his significant disability.
>>54350476
i agree, but the OP said nothing about quotas
are you thinking like this?
>more women will be interested in programming thanks to these programs
>that means more women will be applying to tech jobs
>which means there will be more women 'taking our jobs' through AA
>>54350510
That's probably fine if they're competent, its one thing to be hired because he's disabled than for him to be hired because he's competent but happens to be disabled. Its different
>>54350479
Not him, but it's more about women gaining an advantage in the hiring process due to diversity quotas, so they may get hired over another average man. They both could have the same skill set, but because of muh representation, women have it easier sometimes.
>>54350509
My point is that women are less likely to seek out programming work because of a variety of factors, and as much as you hate to admit it, one of those is gender.
I can't take you seriously while you continue to put up strawmans and paint /g/ as this embittered group of misogynists just because people here disagree with you.
>>54349975
Fuck off /pol/
>>54350586
Erm, I've said nothing of the sort. Are you projecting a little?
> one of those is gender.
Except you've done nothing to explain it. Women just don't program because they're women? Nice circular logic there.
>>54350550
Yeah, he was vague about that.
If women, in general, were as interested as men in tech fields, then they wouldn't need "programs and companies" to make them interested.
People like OP who believe in false ideals like equality and assume that sociological factors are preventing their perfect utopia from forming won't be satisfied unless they get the "correct" outcome..
Why aren't there pushes for men in nursing or women in blue collar jobs
>>54351089
because men are rapists and blue collar jobs are icky
>>54350365
The actual programmers were men wearing suits who wrote it down on a piece of paper while the women made it into punchcards, literally the most menial, mind-numbing job ever.
If you appeal to history to say that women were better off in any context whatsoever, you'll lose every single time.
>>54350578
This. If a man and a woman applying for a job in a tech company has everything equal except their gender, the woman will get picked over the man every single time.
If this isn't discrimination then I don't know what is. It isn't right to get more women into tech by making it easier for them, rather they should be encouraged to meet the same standards as men. In fact the former is patronising and is a form of oppression.
>>54349975
>women agree and create programs and companies to get more girls interested into programing
You forgot to mention the part where they always fail horribly because women don't have much of a staying interest in programming or tech.
>>54350651
> Women just don't program because they're women?
But what if this really is the case? What if there's a biological reason for this? You are refusing to acknowledge this may be the case.
We live in an era where Women have more choice and opportunities than ever before. Stop oppressing women and let them choose not to be programmers if they desire.
Is there nowhere I can go to get away from this identity politics shit? It's literally every single place I visit online now. I am so tired of seeing it.
>>54353567
Get rid of all the women and we'd be safe, I think.
>regressive left sees women under represented in tech industry
>conveniently doesn't notice when women are MUCH more under represented in low status, high risk jobs like stonemasonry, mining, manual labour, sewage treatment etc.
>ignores massive evidence base suggesting girls are uninterested in math/computers from a very young age
>assumes there are less women because all male nerds are evil misogynist brogrammers, despite huge evidence that the tech industry is actually less sexist than the average industry
>leftist media(88% of media donations went to Hillary iirc) bombards people with headlines about how sexist and evil silicon valley is, terrible methodology '''''studies'''''' about github etc. Paints picture of nerds in general as being extreme misogynist, despite evidence to the contrary
>tech companies freak out over bad press
>fire competent people if they have a private opinion deemed unacceptable
>divert money that could be used for doing actual productive stuff into hiring diversity officers and funding silly campaigns to get women into programming
>destroy the tech industry's unique near-meritocracy by forcing diversity quotas, making it harder for competent white/Asian males to get hired
>lol why is /g/ so threatened by women in programming I bet they're just scared girls will outperform them
>>54354607
>bumping a 2 hour old thread just to post some generic "muh women ruins everything" post
Also, isn't diversity quotes illegal in America or something? Even in fucking Sweden that shit doesn't fly and you get reported to the authorities for doing it.
>>54354607
>low status, high risk jobs
>stone masonry
uh, what? do you have a goddamn clue how much a motherfucker gets paid in stone masonry? it's a fucking lot of money. and I have no idea where the high risk you think happens. It's just like most construction jobs except you gotta lift more heavy ass shit.
>>54354721
Who even needs masonry anymore? Isn't everything pretty much replaced with concrete these days?
I know a guy who looks almost exactly like pic in OP, except his hair is brown instead of dark red. Weird.
Also, I agree. /g/ is a big bag of dicks. But I recognise that I'll never change anyone's opinion on here, so generally if I get into one of these sex-related discussions on 4chan, I just ham up the SJW thing to make people butthurt, because it's funny.
>>54354741
Kek. Thought you meant to say HE almost looked like Anita at first.
>>54354739
That's why it's so well-paid, because it's become niche, and the skills required have disappeared from the general pool of construction workers.
A historical area near where I grew up, the local government has a building regulation that says at least the facade of any new house has to be made from stone in the style of that area to maintain the local character.
>>54354696
>illegal
>affirmative action
I take it you're not from the US
>>54354808
No. Sweden. Which is why I'm so surprised. Since well, we all know Sweden, and even we think that shit is wrong.
>>54354739
rich people hire stone masons all the time. former friend of mine came from a family of stone masons. the whole family works for the dad's company and all their clients were well off people. they went to beachfront homes and huge homes out in the middle of the woods and made things like really nice stone firepits, walk ways, walls. the father got opportunity once to fix old castles in the UK at one point but turned it down because he wanted to stay in America.
>>54354828
>Since well, we all know Sweden
>>54349975
>women agree and create programs and companies to get more girls interested into programing
If they were actually interested in "programing", they'd just fucking do it instead of creating these bullshit make-work institutions.
I'm not scared of jack shit because the past 200 years have proved women are incompetent retards. Any "great" woman is just the exception who proves the rule because she's mediocre by male standards and has to surround herself with males to do anything.
I'm both saddened and annoyed by the few women who are worth a shit. They just complicate things so much by being half-male. They're not as good as males but want to be, but it's impossible for them. They're kind of just freaks.
>>54354866
>"fucking sexist men, we don't need your help, we can do everything you can, stop imprisoning us with your maleness"
>"okay, women, go do your thing"
>years go by
>"help, fucking help, men, stop being sexist and give us jobs, you have jobs, we want jobs, help"
>"take care of it yourself"
>"SEXIST"
>>54354909
p. much
Males are fucking amazing.
>>54349975
>pic related
Also:
The problem lies within the "group thinking", a.k.a. "in-group vs.out-group".
The gender shouldn't matter at all. Period.
(no pun intended)
You see, out there's just A LOT of "programming gurlz" who can't actually programm and don't contribute to projects but always bitch about "this guy said he doesn't like gay people - shun him! shun his project! shun the whole programming language!"
I think it goes without saying that you can't blame a whole group for some guy who might or might not have a retarded opinion.
But those people can turn a productive process into a clusterfuck of a shitfest within weeks, just by constantly trying to cornering the community and spamming accusations, unleashing the holy wreath of fugly girls who don't feel respected (because they are annoying and stupid)..
>"Guy xyz said he does't like zxy, shun him!"
>O-ok, but he didn't say said, he said that..
>"NOOOO! ARE YOU RACIST?"
>N-no, but we..
>"WE WILL DESTROY YOUR PROJECT ! CIS SCUM CHECK YOUR PRIVILEDGE ! "
Let's get back to your question:
Now the group which gets confronted with this kind of agressions is very prone to attribute this kind of behavious to the entirety of "programming women" - which is also a mistake, because there are cool and clever programming women out there who don't make a fuss about their gender. Those women are amazing people. But the sheer mass of stupid girls who try to turn it into political discusions lead to blow black effects like /g/ bithcing about programming girls in general.
Don't get me wrong: racism and harassing are not cool, but opinions should be treated as those. If a poject leader is an asshole you are free to not work with him. Or if he's a gigant asshole, try to get some other guy and sort this out betwee the three of you. Don't turn it into a political campain, don't threaten people with a shitstorm and don't claim moral high ground.
>>54354972
>Males are fucking amazing.
tfw not gay
>>54354990
Just don't hire women. They're more trouble than they're worth.
>>54349975
Where's the special programs to get men interested in woman-dominant fields?
>>54355055
Men don't want them because they're shit and women are shit.
FUCK, can we drop this "equality" pablum?
Men are stronger.
Men are smarter.
Men are creators and inventors.
Look at what we do when left to our own devices and compare it to women.
Tired of the cunts. End cunt welfare now.
>>54355055
>mfw my dentist told me there are roughly 8 male dental assistants in my city of like 3 million
To be honest I was tempted to become one just to be able to cruse by on the diversity card.
>>54355085
Imagine all the disgusting shit you'd have to look at though, or the smell.
>>54355051
Totally depends.
I've met great women to work with and sometimes not so great ones..
>>54355055
>Where's the special programs to get men interested in woman-dominant fields?
Women-dominant fields are usually heavily underpaid and not very attractive. Or would you like to clean floors every night?
Just saying.
>>54355079
Oh shut up.
If you haven't witnessed a birth or seen the everyday life of a single mother, you have no fucking idea what strength mean.
No, just let that sink in: you just have no clue what it means to be a woman. It's a totally differnt world. Shut up, lurk more.
On a sidenote a woman's brain work differnt than a man's brain. But I'm pretty damn sure if men and women learn from each other we can get the best of both worlds.
>>54349975
Women ruin everything so they shouldn't be allowed into anything you want to be, or stay, good
>>54355266
>If you haven't witnessed a birth or seen the everyday life of a single mother, you have no fucking idea what strength mean.
>No, just let that sink in: you just have no clue what it means to be a woman. It's a totally differnt world. Shut up, lurk more.
I almost fell for this bait.
>implying people in IT hate women
>implying they wouldn't want more qt4.13s in their teams
>implying all those limp-dicked nerdy guys who code manga management software in haskel for fun are "threatening" to women
>implying somehow women are afraid of us
I want women in IT. This is a fucking sausage fest. Whenever I change employers and I go to a new team and I find out of the 100s of engineers there's maybe one girl INEVITABLY she's already in a relationship/married.
I have a program for you. Start affirmative action to get more Chad's with perfect abs and asshole attitude into IT and women will flock to it as well.
There's not enough desirable men in IT.
/thread
>>54355266
>>54355305
>you don't know how hard it is to have a vagina
>>54354607
>>54355358
Wow, it's like a law.
>>54355358
God damn this is pathetic. Maybe you should re-evaluate your career choice if you want to be able to pick up chicks from your job.
>>54354696
SJW is the hypercapitalist answer to socialism.
It's okay if 33% of your country is poor and dying as long as there are a few brown female millionaires scattered around the upper echelon.
>>54355266
>Women-dominant fields are usually heavily underpaid and not very attractive.
Yeah, because the occupations that men choose are more beneficial to society than those that women chose.
Engineers, construction and maintenance jobs, doctors, transportation, farming, I could go on.
>>54355426
Bitch, please. PLEASE.
I'm doing exactly what I want to do. I'm in IT precisely NOT for reasons related to women. But that doesn't change the fact that this is a pretty common sentiment amongst people on those fields. They want more women that enjoy the same things they do in their fields. The sausage fest gets boring really fast.
But IT is not a very socially active field. We don't "party", we may play some poker or maybe some board games with a beer. Maybe do a lan party. Maybe enjoy a nice debate about some irrelevant bullshit like a sci-fi novel we read over a pint.
These are not the kinds of things that women find fun or glamorous or some shit like that. There are no high value males here either.
>>54355466
>They want more women that enjoy the same things they do in their fields.
I have bad news for you. Women don't "enjoy" anything. They use it as a fashion accessory to get Chad.
>>54355488
Ah Schopenhauer, you so cray and edgy.
Keep at it you wacky german. I don't completely disagree with you.
>>54355438
Why are you trying to trigger me?
Guys who talk like that usually have a very big problem with women and/or an inferiority complex..
You argumentation is like: "lol, legs and arms are much simpler than brains therefore we don't need them.."
A system works because of their components and it's not trivial to analyze what the vital parts of a system are or how it works.
Balance is key.
> Nobody gives a shit when men are drafted
> Suddenly women are included in the draft too
> True equality was achieved
> Every feminist SJW cuck starts blogging about how the draft is tyrannical and shouldn't exist
> Nobody cared when men were getting shafted
why things gotta be like they are, /g/?
>>54349975
More along the lines of:
>women acknowledge the fact that women are underrepresented in tech fields
>women take this to mean that political action is needed and companies must be held responsible for the lack of hire-able women
>women fail to see the social issue at hand, and demand an immediate solution, rather than a long-lasting social solution
>/g/ bitches because women are using political and social pressure to nudge their way into positions they don't deserve, rather than earning them for the work they've done
I've worked with females in the tech industry. From network engineers who've helped me with RF surveys and knowing way more about cisco networking than I ever would, to programmers who are brilliant and provided solutions I never could. Universally, these are the same women who HATE the recent influx of females into the tech industry. They understand that this new wave are the same women who bitch about pink Gillette razors costing more money, then demand to know why there isn't a Java IDE that's "Feminine image friendly". The ones who cry to HR when the IT guy says "Oh, this guy (the computer) probably has a bad stick of RAM, we'll run some diagnostics and slap a new one in if it needs it." because he used a male pronoun and an "abusive" term (slap) in a statement. The ones who spell women as "womyn" in a company-wide memo about a new coffee supplier like they're somehow making a statement, and support wants to know if their outlook's dictionary/spell-checker got turned off by mistake.
I've never had a problem with women in tech. I've just got a problem with idiots in tech.
>>54355514
Because we've always lived in a matriarchy and the cunts are so greedy that they just demand more and more.
>BAWWWW I HAVE TO STAY AT HOME AND CLEAN WHILE MY HUSBAND GETS BLACK LUNG AT THE COAL MINE
>BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Fuck you, roastie cunts. I hate every last one of you parasites.
>>54355466
>These are not the kinds of things that women find fun or glamorous or some shit like that
Cause if they did find those interesting, they'd already be the type of woman who'd be interested in IT. Thus no program is needed.
>>54355527
So much this.
>>54355527
>muh egalitarianism
You're just an enabler in the end. The only solution is remove the vaginas.
No vaginas, no problem. I'll never work in a business with a woman in it. I only do startups.
>>54355527
>I've never had a problem with women in tech. I've just got a problem with idiots in tech.
Fucking true dat.
>>54355513
Balance is important, but there are fields that are 90-99% men and most of those are ones that keep our infrastructure, and in effect societies, going.
Most fields that are 90-99% women are irrelevant in the large scale of things. Nothing would happen to a society if none of the women came to work one day. A shitload of bad things would happen if none of the men turned up for work.
>>54355542
Yeah, pretty much. The women that are in IT and do deserve it and enjoy it already are nerds like us. They don't need affirmative action, they are there for the same reasons as the men are. And those are usually pretty rad ladies.
Fuck me, my first really serious crush in life was in uni on my female lecturer that taught intelligent systems like deep neural networks.
She was married already... of course.
>>54355561
But... startups are fucking full of women...
I've worked in two startups so far and the development team that actually made the product with sweat and beer day by day were all men that enjoyed the challenge. Eveyrthing else like marketing, hr, accounting, customer support and other shit like that was women.
Kinda sad if you ask me, i have little respect for any of these. Regardless of what people work in them.
>>54355599
>y-you can't get away from them so why try
I've worked in several all-male startups.
Tired of the defeatism.
There was a time when men did almost all the work. We can do it. Womyn can't.
>>54355577
>Most fields that are 90-99% women
There are lies, damn lies and statistics..
I think I know what you mean, but honestly we dont know. Don't forget that after wars it's usually the women who rebuild a country.
Men are usually more "pushy" while women usually do a lot of things only if they have to. For example if you have a class of girls only vs. a mixed class, the math level is usually much better in "girls only" classes..
Role modells are a thing.
>>54349975
>>54355660
Oh, I agree. I don't think women are not capable of being engieers or whatever. They are.
The issue is culture/society.
IF you give women the ability to not do any of these hard jobs that require constant learning, improvement and hard work to stay relevant they just don't do those.
In societies that are worse off and women are pretty much forced by circumstances to do shit like construction work or electrical engineering the do.
In egalitarian, free, and wealthy societies they avoid those difficult fields like the plague, and then a minority of them comes around and starts shouting about how the EVIL PATRIARCHY is keeping them out of STEM.
It's so infuriating.
>>54349975
>swedish university
>you need 10/10 average to become a TA
>but if you're a girl you get accepted with any grades
>>54350586
>be OP
>be faggot
>be SJW
>project on shitpost without reading the thread
SJWs and Islam-cucks are the worst.
Back to plebbit, pls.
>>54355730
Really? Got any solid proof for that?
Pretty much at any time when a university has show preferential treatment to a group of people they get into some serious shit.
>>54355805
No they don't. Even if the university says that it is against positive sexism, they don't implement that practice. Most of the TA girls have the lowest possible average (respect to the ones that are 10/10), and a guy can't get in with the sane grades. Den gamla, den fria.
>>54355805
Except males are 100% whipped these days and never stick up for their sex.
>>54355886
How does that even work? I mean, it's pretty much all grades isn't it? Isn't it only the weird liberal arts "dance" type programs that have interviews?
>>54356000
I'm at an engineering course.
>>54350282
Women will get pregnant and stop working. To cover the cost of training them they are paid less.
>>54354866
I think you meant "half masculine", they are still female.
Men can also be useless and feminine as well, look at all the cucks who post here.
>>54355514
Think of it as a trade off. You are disposable but you are also more intelligent and stronger as well as assertive than a female.
So you either take the cushier life but being less intelligent and very weak or being strong but having a harder life. It evens out.
That's usually why women are looked upon more favorably than men who get female jobs. Female jobs are easier. A woman taking a hard job that requires her to push her intelligence and physical strength to her limits is more commendable than a feminine man who takes the easy way out.
But when women upset the balance and get into better paying work without working for it unlike men, then there's a problem.
Women doing lesser paid but easier jobs is fine and suited for them. If they want to work harder then let them do it by merit and not just get it handed to them because vagina.
>>54355514
Conscription for women is probably not a good thing for men. It might just lead to them being put on the front line more often if the support roles can be filled by either gender.
>>54350488
>2016
>implying gender has anything to do with external secondary sex characteristics
>>54350479
100%
>>54355762
jesus
>SJW bashing
>"cuck"
>reddit reference
holy hello batman we have ourselves a winner for biggest 4channer on 4chan
I read an article once that cited research stating highschool girls are put off from computer science in school if the computer lab is decorated with posters of computer hardware. It suggested that instead, they ought to be decorated with neutral decoration like potted plants.
The tech industry is sexist because there's too much technology involved.
>>54356600
It's almost as if you're on... 4chan...
>"Women are half the people, so they should be half the software engineers!"
>"Not half the garbage men though. And ew, not half the sewage treatment plant workers. Or the loggers, policemen, crab fishermen, petroleum engineers, ..."
>>54357165
Which is funny, because those professions are more important that most of the fields they actually go for.
Women should do it if they can because it's easy for them to get into. An ex of mine applied to computer science on like b's at A-level (below recommended) she got in no problem and a another guy in the same class was slightly above what you need for the course and did more stem a levels and they made him do a bunch of interviews and shit before they let him in.
go pick up an engineering corse then I dont care
>>54357270
It's almost as if diversity is bullshit and introduces subpar people to do jobs instead of people who better know the field. But that doesn't matter because think of all the diversity you get in your code now!
document.write("sup werld");
>>54350365
You shut the fuck up you braindead marxist. If you want a tech job go study for one, there is no penile barrier preventing women from doing this.
This is why I am studying Ceng in singapore, no braindead commies shitting up my education with marxist bullshit
>>54357224
they're also more fun that being a software engineer desu senpai
>>54357343
It is fucking bullshit but if I was a woman I would be taking full advantage of the opportunity. It's not like this doesn't happen all the time.
>>54357364
>become a policeman
>arrest smelly brown people all day
Living the dream.
>>54350391
I think having programs and scholarships specifically for a gender or race is an admission of lack of capability of that gender or race. It's humiliating for the people receiving them and unfair for the people excluded.
It's the very definition of discrimination.
>>54355984
That's because that's fucking stupid, you cockgobbler.
Why should I give men any special treatment when I don't give women special treatment? Because they have a dick? Fuck that.
>>54350365
Yeah, the women *were* the computers, taking orders from men and executing their specifc part of a calculation
>>54354990
Programming and code quality should be totally blind to any racial/gender factors, this the bottom line truth no matter what anyone says. the quality of code itself is what matters. When i meet a girl programmer who is better than me or my cs guy friends, she will immediately earn the same respect that would be afforded to a male. It just has not happened yet. The same logic is implied for a proper job hiring process.
Could be a combination of 5:1 boy girl ratio (in terms of odds), and the factors that contribute to the existing ratio.
>>54357723
Because women are and they're so successful that they have an entire cult degree dedicated to destroying males.
>>54357682
>It's the very definition of discrimination.
having programs like Girls Who Code is discrimination? Against who?
>>54357868
Males. There should be an equal Guys Who Code program.
>>54357868
He's talking about affirmative action in institutions that make them hire/take in incompetent individuals based on gender/race/whatever.
>>54349975
>women
>being useful at anything but counting your money
>>54357783
There are far more productive ways of dealing with Women's Studies, you retard, and being a retard and prioritizing men because "IM OPRESSED AND YOU ARE TOO" isn't one of them.
That's literally stooping to their level. Except youre even more of a beta faggot than the male's who defend these things than they are because you claim that's not what you're doing.
>>54357927
>r-retard!!!!!!
You're a roastie or a noodle, and your "suggestion" is to stick your head in the sand and your butt in the air for a good buttrape.
The way to deal with feminists is to shift the Overton window by calling them dishwasher cunts to their face.
>>54357270
Thats because they actually care to dig deeper with the guy, and see what kind of position hed be best suited for. The girl is just gonna be in charge of the Facebook posts or the like, you dont need multiple interviews to figure that out.
>>54357960
Wat.
Ohhhh I get it, your one of those MUH PETRIARCHY people.
>>54357951
No, it isn't, you FUCKING imbecile.
That does nothing but add fuel to their fire of stupidity. Have you ever met one of these people before? Or are you just too busy jerking it to your anime in the basement?
The best way to deal with them is to not listen, and to treat all meritable people, black or white, male or female with the respect they deserve, and to promote such an idea to all who will listen.
>>54357985
Can you even respond to my post like a normal person? I have not the slightest clue what the fuck youre saying.
>>54358012
HURRRRR DURR IM NEW HERE
>>54358021
4chan encarnate
>>54358008
Fuck off underager or fuck a disposal to shear off what remains of your nuts. I don't really care. You're an enabler of the problem and your approach does nothing but encourage the problem.
By treading on eggshells and negotiating around the cunts, you're just accepting their paradigm. They're cunts. They need to leave and try to accomplish some cunt thing, which they can't, because they're cunts.
>>54358031
>>54358021
Fuckdam cellphone keyboard. Youre 4chan incarnate, anon
>>54349975
Walk into any college or university class related to computers and you will find a disproportionate amount of women. Anecdotally, it is rare for my classes to have more than one or two girls out of a class of thirty.
The field isn't overpopulated by men because only men are getting hired, it is because the majority of applicants are male.
There isn't even a moral problem with this, women as their own gender are free to make their own choices and they are obviously not going to make the same decisions as men about careers and education.
If you want to make initiatives to encourage girls to be interested in coding, that is fine by me. But, if you are arguing that employers need to be hiring 50% women when 90% of applicants are men, you can fuck right off.q
>>54349975
>are you afraid that women are going to take your job?
Women = more work for Men to do when they can't keep pace.
Example: She will tell the boss she is almost done but needs to take a few days off and then he asks you to finish her work...you look at it and it's a complete mess and isn't half done.
>>54358042
Did I say "negotiate?" No, I said "not listen." That's completely different. They're practically opposites, in fact!
>IF YOU DONT DO WHAT I SAY YOURE ENABLING THE PROBLEM
You do realize that that's exactly what these femtards say to everyone? Face it, bro, you're just like them, no matter how hard you believe you aren't.
And just like them, you're a bigoted, spiteful, and arrogant piece of trash.
Introduce your neck to the nearest noose. You'd be doing the world a favor.
>>54349975
I'm afraid they're going to do a shit job not take mine.
>>54357883
but it's not needed
why?
because most of the people that are into programming are males.
>>54357889
>that make them hire/take in incompetent individuals based on gender/race/whatever
but that's not how this works, they dont take random people off of the street and hire them.
>>54358219
>they dont take random people off of the street and hire them.
Who the fuck said that? Are you blind? Do you not see this is a strawman?
>>54358156
>You're shooting back instead of laying in a ditch and dying! You're just like them!
>You radical MRAs are a tiny minority of a handful of people and you should fucking just die so the feminist juggernaut can roll over everything unabated.
Sodomize yourself with a rusty knife, shitheel. You are completely ineffective and the cunts are destroying civilization.
You're a radical feminist, you just don't know it. In fact, you're worse than a radical feminist because you completely aid and abet them and pretend you don't. Your methods are completely ineffective against feminists, so you turn them against feminism's few enemies.
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis." Dante Alighieri
>>54358219
Yeah, because they earned it. Computers are completely accessible. For 30 years, you have been able to:
1) Buy a computer
2) Buy a programming book
3) Learn to program
But no cunt did, because they're inferior bleeders, just like any ancient thinker could have told you before this "egalitarian" dogma.
>>54349975
Women are sex objects. They have no place in the workforce. They should be home looking pretty, making and raising babies, cooking and cleaning.
>>54349975
There are dedicated skilled women in tech but sadly the majority are Twitter posers and not the real deal
>>54358229
the people they hire through AA are not at all incompetent, they have no reason to hire someone that cannot properly do the job, i understand what you were saying but this idea that they just hire anyone to fill their quota is false and dishonest, and you calling AA hires incompetent implies that they just hire anyone.
Maybe im just being autistic
>>54358219
>>54358306
>>54349975
Im affraid that less qualified women will take the job of a more qualified man just because of "muh equality" and this resulting in a decline in quality.
>>54358219
>>54358306
>>54358321
>>54350510
coding by voice
pretty interesting ..
much customising the system to get his good results
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SkdfdXWYaI
>>54358337
>>54350365
>Some biological mechanism that makes them disinterested in it?
This could well be the case.
Of course there will always be exceptions, but in general, there are distinct differences between women and men, and these physical differences manifest themselves in the brain as well.
The fact is that women have every opportunity to join STEM fields. More women go to college than men now, and women are more likely to get a job in a STEM field than men are. Yet, in general, they choose other paths in life even when they have every opportunity to do otherwise.
Leftists don't like it when women make their own life choices. We can't simply respect their actual desires, no; if a woman would rather be a teacher or a nurse than a programmer, it's because she's been brainwashed by the patriarchy and has internalized misogyny. It's the most unbelievably sexist idea, as if women lack autonomy to make their own life choices. Instead we have to push as hard as possible to force them into a profession they're not interested in. Right.
>>54358355
>>54358042
>calling other people underage
>unironically arguing muh males are oppressed
>thinks he can defeat SJWs by becoming one
thanks 4 the laffs
>>54358399
Yeah, faggot, keep ignoring the problem. SJWs are practically mainstream now.
I'm moving to Asia. Not going to live in this wacky funhouse where white males are belittled and extorted for building and maintaining and inventing everything.
No i just dont know alot of woemn into tech if more got into it then i guess the job market would even out evemtually what i dislike is this meddling in soemthing that has always sustained itself naturally
>>54358098
I have 30% female student at my programming course. Half of them dropped out along with the hipsters in the first two semesters. The ones who are actually worth it, couldn't care less about "girls who program" crap because they know it undermines them.
>>54358234
>[war metaphor]
Ah, but anon, that doesn't work, because what you're actually doing is turning to your colleagues and shooting THEM while screaming "DEATH TO TERRORISTS DURKA DURKA MUHAMMAD JIHAD."
>you radical MRAs
I never called you an MRA. I called you a moron. And morons can come from anywhere, and believe in anything. The fact that you seem to think the terms are interchangeable really just shows how much you're like them.
>N-no, you're a radfem! Y-you just don't know it, baka!
Haha, keep projecting bro. You don't see me saying "PENIS BAD VAGINA GOOD," like you say "VAGINA BAD PENIS GOOD", nor do I (unlike you) spout the same feminist rhetoric you seem more than happy to vomit out.
>your methods completely aid and abet them
Aka
>IF YOU DONT LISTEN TO ME YOU'RE LITERALLY HELPING THE SEXISTS
Man, if you really don't want to be like them, you could always stop talking like them. It's not hard.
Step one: Stop letting an unseen crowd trample on you, you beta faggot.
Step two: Grow the fuck up and learn that people are to be treated by merit, not by arbitrary traits.
Step three: Get out of the basement sometime. Meet some real people that aren't badly written imitations of your favorite anime girls.
>>54355079
>Men are stronger.
>Men are smarter.
>Men are creators and inventors.
>this is what neoreactionaries actually believe
>>54358234
you're arguing like a child
>>54358523
None of those things are even debatable if you look at the facts, and you respond like a child. This is why I hate women.
>>54358505
>deny the problem exists and get destroyed
How about no? How about cunts build their own companies and technologies?
We wouldn't be in this mess if they weren't legitimately inferior. They genuinely
CANNOT FUNCTION
INDEPENDENTLY OF
MALES
Males are more than happy to let cunts do whatever they want independently. Hell, we'll give them free tools and resources to fuck off. But they can't. They just glom on and drain.
They are parasites. No one will acknowledge this obvious fucking fact and it's driving me insane. I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone.
>inb4 that's because you are
SHOW me a fucking 100% woman company. Show it to me! They can't do it! They're incapable of cooperation and shit everything up with their retarded ideas and drama. They are terrible fucking half-people maggots.
Males work MIRACLES. And that's the worst fucking thing of all. Cunts can't even appreciate it! This fucking miracle of technology! A cunt will never understand it. It's just a "magic box" to them." I hate cunts, and I will hate them until my dying day. I just want to get away from them. But I can't. Because they're parasites.
>>54358426
I don't blame you. Not the person you were replying to btw.
I just think it's highly ironic that you would would employ the same methods as an SJW. I don't agree with the other guy that 'doing nothing' is the solution. But here's an idea: debate isn't about convincing the other persom of your viewpoint, it's about convincing the audience of your viewpoint. The general populace is already largly aware that SJWs are nutbags. However, everyone is afraid to disagree with them because they're afraid of their normie reputations being ruined. If your side appears to level headed and makes reasoned arguments, then they might be less afraid of speaking out against the lunatics because they feel like they're in good company. If they see some faggot like you calling all women useless cunts, then the SJW's claims are justified since you're the exact character they've painted on society.
tl;dr: you're giving SJWs power by being a literal misogynist
>>54358566
The person I'm arguing with is obviously a cunt, so of course she's exempt from being called childish, because all cunts are children.
There are no expectations of the retard sex.
>>54358569
>SHOW me a fucking 100% woman company. >Show it to me! They can't do it! They're >incapable of cooperation
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html
>>54358569
>This is why I hate women.
I'm a man, you moron
And yeah, it's clear that you hate women, but thanks for being honest enough to admit it. You're ahead of most of your fellow brogressives there
>>54358306
>the people they hire through AA are not at all incompetent
They wouldn't need that if they are not incompetent. And most females they hire in tech are hired just because they are females. The ones who are actually capable make it without muh feminism.
https://youtu.be/vzmbW4ueGdg
Now back to plebbit, pig.
>>54358573
That's wishful thinking and not how things work politically.
In the present mass culture situation, frothing anti-male and anti-white bigotry are permitted and even encouraged. That kind of constant hammer blow shifts the Overton window toward SJW land. The solution is to curbstomp the eggshells SJW want you to walk on. That starts a conversation and breaks out of the prison of their paradigm.
>>54358748
>Now back to plebbit, pig.
right after you, sir
>>54358754
If your saying the existance of reactionaries in the political sphere is inevitable, I agree with you. But if your saying that reactionaries like yourself are going to get their way then you're naive and historically illiterate. Society has always tended toward reason even when it's been far from it, because idiots like the SJWs and reactionaries don't hold stable enough ideologies and kill themselves off, like some perverted philosophical darwinism. It never seems to kill all of you though, there have been those that resemble your kind and theirs for as long as recorded history, authoritarian extremists who are certain of their convictions. Not to worry /pol/yp, they will be gone soon enough, along with your ilk. And then they will rise again, and fall, and again, until we've shit up this planet enough that it kicks us off.
>>54349975
Its worse than that most of this site is made of men with serious problem with women, be by their behavior creepy sometimes, or by only interacting with the wrong woman. There is also the shitty education that you receive when you are a kid that basically tells you that women are evil, inferior and machismo empowers you and serves as shield against this.
In the industry and college I've seen no different there is still a lot o prejudice against women in tech, some guys just don't conceive the idea that a woman can best them in any possible field, its just too hard to accept. On the otherside the response by women is usually taken by some ladies that just hate men. If the woman is competent and has no flaws, she is a bitch, if she is average then she sleep with someone to get the job, or someone put her there for the sake of diversity. The problem is not the the tumblr activists is the education we give and receive as men at home make the pitiful excuses that comprise the industry, and this site unfortunately.
>>54359044
There's prejudice against them because they're inferior, incompetent bleeders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wir8sSDfW5Q
See this, roastie? Your retard sex could never do this and never will.
>>54359111
the irony in your reply is palatable
