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>2026-10
>Not reembracing the physical keyboard smartphone after all these years

Don't laugh - this is a real accessory manufactured by Samsung. It doesn't even need batteries - it's powered by an inductive clip on the back. The phone recognizes this and automatically shrinks the screen and UI by 30%.

Who relapsed /crackberry/ here? Seriously you could type documents with this thing. Tactile feedback on mobile is a forgotten joy. Free yourself from Steve Jobs' decade-long reality distortion field and get yourself a physical smartphone keyboard. Make smartphones actually useful for smart and productive things!
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>>54331358
Post the link you moron.
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>>54331358
If you are going to shill keyboard phones, do not, under any circumstances, promote Samsung's abortion. Even Typo was better... and it was still an abomination.
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1 new blackberry phone incoming with a keyboard and slightly shorter screen than the samsung s7 edge. Can't wait.
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>>54331358
>samsung "design"
I'd say to not make me laugh, but it is already too late
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>>54331358
Physical keyboards on phones are retarded. I type much more accurately and faster with a software keyboard.
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>>54331673
Sure thing buddy.
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they're finally bringing back keyboards on phone after all this time, and they're doing it wrong

this is how a phone keyboard should be oriented, not that narrow vertically-oriented crap like >>54331425 and >>54331358
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Dragonbox Pyra. With telephony modem.
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>>54331986
Agreed.

I miss my keyboard slider phone god damnit.
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>>54331530
>new blackberry
If they make the Vienna with good guts, camera, and vanilla Android i would actually buy it in a heartbeat
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I have learned to type faster on the virtual keyboard nowadays than I ever did on my old Sidekick. So has everyone else. This is doomed to fail.
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>>54331986
>>54332118
Then you guys should join the thin phone train, because ain't nobody going to build a slider with current thickness limitations.
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>>54331986
This is objectively the best cell phone design.
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http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B1WBETQ/
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I think I like it /g/
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>>54331358
>implying I ever fell for the touchscreen keyboard meme
Rocking a Q10 right now, feels good to be masterrace
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>>54331358
>using a cell phone
Here's your reminder that if you own a cell phone then you might as well let the government install a telescreen in your home.
>the NSA actively collects bulk metadata on cell phone connections to cell towers and stores it for months at a time in their FASCIA database, allowing them to look you up in their database and see a map of your travel habbits, they also now give all other 3 letter agencies access to this data
>in all cell phones with only a couple exceptions (such as the Blackphone and Neo900) the baseband processor, which controls the cell phone's connection to the cell tower, has complete access to the phone's main CPU and RAM, allowing complete backdoor access to your cell phone with simple exploits which are easy for the governemnt to develop because they can request the baseband firmware from companies for a security audit
>police departments regularly deploy stingrays for tracking cell phones and their owners
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>>54331358
>Seriously you could type documents with this thing.

I can also put engines on my roller blades so that instead of my car. While it would work, it wouldn't be efficient at all since there are much better alternatives.
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>>54335067
>tfw local police department has an SUV that intercepts text messages
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>>54331358
Why not just get BlackBerry Priv?
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I don't get it. I tried typing on a blackberry priv, and it's fucking slow and feels weird. Why do you people like these keyboards so much?
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>>54335108
It's not an instantaneous difference, you've got to build muscle memory for the keyboard. I can touch type on my BlackBerry.
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>>54335160
Can't imagine it being any faster though. Travel time and all that.
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>>54335067
>being American
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>>54331986
one issue is that a lot of android apps suck in landscape mode. The UI elements (specifically the action bar) use a bunch of vertical space and don't leave enough space for content.
A keyboard that flipped out the sides like a cross would be funky but might be usable.

>>54334338
I'm on the thin train. I always had HW keyboards when they were made but damn they were thick, not easy to get in and out of the pocket. Now despite having huge 5.7" screen it's much easier to have in the pocket.
And no before some autismo asks, I did not wear skinny jeans. I wore regular and loose fitting jeans.
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>>54335067
and?
if the police look me up all theyll see is how much i love fat cocks and mechanical keyboards
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>>54335167
Not him but I made very few mistakes when I had hardware keyboards. I spend a decent amount of time re-writing touchscreen messages because of all the screwups
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>>54335514
>I would have no problem with having a telescreen in my house
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>>54335521
ill just do a bunch of gay shit and creep them out
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>>54335167
I never said anything about speed.
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>>54335040
I have the Q5, still going strong. Too bad they abandon this masterpiece of an OS
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>>54331358
Why don't they just make a smart phone that has a keyboard on it? Physical keys are clearly superior.


Only the first sentence is sarcastic.
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Hows the Blackberry Passport /g/entoomen? Looks sexy as fuck but I'm not sure I want to lose android for BBOS...
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>>54335663
Most fucking retarded shape for a smartphone.

Enjoy your zero ergonics and abandoned os
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Blackberry has no good app ecosystem, that's the problem

If you shell out so much for a smartphone, you need it to be able to actually do things
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>>54335067
*tip*
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Bring these back
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>>54332083
Sure, it may have a telephony modem, but what kind of software support is there for initiating and receiving voice calls in Linux?

This device looks like it could replace a handheld gaming device and a netbook, which alone makes it impressive, but I'm reluctant to call it a replacement for a phone.
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Needs cherry switches
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>>54337940
>tfw smartphones are starting to die in Japan, the only place in the world that still uses them and even made smart flip phones because they liked them so much
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>>54338158
flip phones are starting to die in Japan I mean*
I'm not sure how I fucked my post up that bad.
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>>54335067
That's why the fbi had to bitch and whine about unlocking that pin protected iPhone right?
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>>54331358
god, make a phone that has a touchscreen and a 1-9 numerical keyboard, I would pay with everything I have for that.
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>>54335663
>I'm not sure I want to lose android for BBOS...
You definitely do
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>>54338389
The FBI went through that circus act so that it could have a legal and importantly public backdoor. See parallel construction
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>>54331358
I'd gladly obtain one. Writing on touchscreen is a pain in the ass, i stopped writing any text longer than small messages after i sold my Q10 and bought Z5C. I even thought about buying q10 keyboard module, programming SMD atmega and connecting this shit through USB to my z5c, but i still can't think about good way to make it fit with the smartphone.

>>54331986
Bullshit, it's entirely possible to create great portrait keyboard. I had Droid 3 and Q10, no matter how awesome Droid 3 was, Q10 was still a better keyboard in everyday use. Shorter finger travel distance is a good thing.

>>54338587
Yeah, it was great OS. Great, dead OS.
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>>54338790
>was
Still is.
>dead
Got a source on that? Also even if it is dead it's still better than Android
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>>54338158
Last I heard flip phones are making a comeback in japan
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Writing on the touchscreen is fine for prose, where you can just swype around and have the neural network keyboard guess what you meant. It's inadequate for any other kind of text.
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>>54338829
>source
I dunno, i switched after they dropped Facebook support. Or rather, reduced hub-enabled app to a fucking browser shortcut.

It's all going down, anon. Let it go.
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>>54338978
Nah, I'll continue using my superiour phone. I'll probably be using a Q10 for at least the next four years.
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>>54335040
They fucked it up and forgot the most important buttons.
Luckily, they came to their senses a few years later
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>>54338157
so much this.
besides this, i love my blackberry priv
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>>54335429
Here's your reminder that the NSA has no legal restrictions on spying on foreigners.
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>>54331358
why not use a proper keyboard instead of that cancerous growth?
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>>54339006
I prefer no toolbelt. If they released a Q10 with a trackball and nothing else between the keyboard and screen I'd buy that shit in a heartbeat. Still might end up switching to a Classic for the trackpad but the no removable battery part is off-putting.
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>>54339019
because it's ridiculously overpriced
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>>54339039
get a job and let your boss buy it for you.
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>>54339039
Q10, Classic, and Passport aren't.
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>>54331986
Photon q represent
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>>54339054
I have a job, i could obtain one. It just feels very wrong to pay literally twice as much for a phone that only redeeming quality is a keyboard. Come on, one smartphone with keyboard in a price of two better-specced smartphones, it's a fucking ripoff.

I'll wait for their budget androids they were talking about, maybe those will be cheaper (and smaller, i'd love to have it smaller)/
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>>54331986
Vertical keyboard is best keyboard
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>>54339039
It isn't. I mean, it is overpriced, but not ridiculously.
The worth of a device is not just its raw specs.
Manufacturing physical keyboard and slider mechanism costs a lot more than a touchscreen slab.

The simple comparisons of specs, price and not much more is the main reason why manufacturers just stopped caring about anything else. Just put more ram or megapixels in it and sell it a few cents cheaper and it'll win any comparisons.

Don't you remember the times when nobody even cared how much ram a phone had and the only thing that counted was the form factor, build quality, battery life and sometimes the screen and camera?
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>>54331986
but this is wrong.
>can't type one-handed
>can't even end calls by furiously closing the phone like in the good old days
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>>54338790

Same with me.

Went from xperia pro with hardware landscape keyboard to xperia z3c and I just write much less than before.

I did have few phones with portrait keyboards and to be honest they're not much better than touch.
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>>54339103
>Don't you remember the times when nobody even cared how much ram a phone had and the only thing that counted was the form factor, build quality, battery life and sometimes the screen and camera?

frankly, no. I used PDAs since Palm III and it was always about having more power, although back then power was the biggest problem, unlike now.

Also, somehow, older Androids were able to keep normal prices even if those were qwerties (Droids). Blackberry is asking a lot of money just for their logo, this is fact.
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>>54338389
A hardware backdoor won't get around full disk encryption unless the person is still around to use their device so that you can get the key when they enter it.
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>>54338389
This.

The Apple iPhone 6S Plus simply is both the most powerful and secure device there is.
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>>54339364
>frankly, no. I am literally inbred and also underaged.
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>>54331986
A phone with the technology and build quality of the S7 with this keyboard would be awesome, plz Samsung.
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>>54331986
Phones are huge now. My 6P is as wide as my G1's keyboard, and that keyboard is god tier. The only thing missing would be the G1's bulge on the right for my palm
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>>54331986
>I was 12 in 2007: the post
go fuck yourself. portrait keyboards are for grown ups. that slider garbage has never, ever, EVER been good
fuck right off
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>>54331358
I think I will wait for one of those midrange BB devices. I finally have a disposable income so after half a year I can probably blow some cash on a better phone than my beaten up 640.
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>>54340286
Why wait? Go for a Q10 or a Classic
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>>54331358
this actually looks fucking great

officially getting an s7 now
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>>54340319
>people actually like Samsung's failed abortion
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>>54340256
The G1's slider felt good. Everything else sucked and felt gritty and slow
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>>54331358
I dont use my phone to type out essays, theres nothing wrong with the virtual keyboard that doesn't double the weight or stop it fitting in your pocket
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>>54340348
I wish the Neo 900 project would've used the Dream instead
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>>54340362
>I dont use my phone to type out essays
this is only because you don't have a physical keyboard
>tfw writing english essays in high school right before class on a palm treo with windows xp mobile and microsoft work
>tfw would go straight from that to a GBC emulator
technology has only taken features away from me in regards to phone technology
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>>54340399
the shill is strong with this one

i will never want to write out anything long on my phone, i use it to contact people and play shitty games and thats it
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>>54340486
I use my phone to contact people primarily by text, hence the hardware keyboard.
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>>54340319
>touchwizz
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>>54340486
yeah, thats it only because your phone is a gimped toy and not a productive asset
>i dont want my phone to be productive because im not productive
is not an argument
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>>54340529
im plenty productive, on useful tools. sure, if my phone was better maybe id use it for more stuff, but i have no issues with having it not do all that stuff because i own laptops and tablets and nothing i do really requires writing novels on the subway
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>>54340521
me too, and swiftkey lets me type as fast as i need to. embrace the future
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>>54335663
looks awkward as fuck, but maybe actually works
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>>54340526
>>54340526
>implying you cant jsut download a new launcher
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>>54340574
Nah, you can use that glass slate to do all the typing you want but if I prefer a physical keyboard I'm going to use a physical keyboard.
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>>54335067
>tfw I'm not American

Feels good
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>>54339457
That's what they want you to think
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>>54340574
I've been embracing the future for years. The future has a lot of typos.
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>>54331358
what is this and how is it called, I want it
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>>54340679
>tfw your data's still being collected
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If you're using your phone to run any application that seriously benefits from a keyboard you're doing it wrong.

My phone makes phonecalls and texts. Thats all it needs to do.
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>>54340921
my man
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>>54340736
then youre not good enough at the future
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>>54340921
>If you're using your phone to run any application that seriously benefits from a keyboard you're doing it wrong.
>I text with my phone
According to your own post you're doing it wrong.
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>>54339469
>being salty about being an old non-Jewish normie
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>>54331358
what was the price of that thing?
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>>54340940
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>>54340959

You don't need a physical keyboard to send texts.
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>Tactile feedback on mobile is a forgotten joy.
Phones have a setting, usually on by default, to vibrate with each keypress, so it's hardly forgotten.
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>>54340973
It's beneficial to use one though.
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>>54340988

It is, but if you're attaching a keyboard to a phone just for texting you've got issues.
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>>54341004
This is true, it's much saner to just get a keyboard phone.
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>>54341018

Or just use the onscreen keyboard like a sane human.
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>>54341031
>using a feedbackless glass slate for text input
I'd rather not. Tell me this anon. If I primarily use my phone for texting, and prefer to text with a physical keyboard, why the fuck should I not have one?
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>>54340628

...ok? do whatever you want man, idc
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>>54331358
Stand aside fuckers, it's time to make smartphones great again.
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>>54341065

Go ahead, have one.
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>>54341065
sure, you can get one, but youll look like an idiot who cant adapt. plus the touchscreen keyboards allow for new types of input like swiftkey and the handwriting keyboards, which for the most part are faster than thumb typing
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>2006+10
>not using Swype

go back to the middle school if you want to use a physical keyboard on a phone
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>>54341091
That's what I thought.
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>>54341090
Is that a trackball? I remember some dumb-ish phones had that, it was awesome.
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>>54341122
careful with that edge
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What about the Nokia n900 running Debian?
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>>54341104
>youll look like an idiot who cant adapt
I could not possibly give less of a shit.
>plus the touchscreen keyboards allow for new types of input like swiftkey and the handwriting keyboards, which for the most part are faster than thumb typing
I hit 60wpm on my hardware keyboard, more than good enough for me. It's not about speed, it's preference. I'm pretty sure I actually can type faster on a touchscreen, but again, I could not possibly give less of a shit.
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>>54341118
i agree
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>>54341167
then why are you on here arguing about it? just go and use your keyboard phone
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>>54341203
For the next couple hours I have nothing better to do than shitpost. It's fun arguing with odd fucks like you who actually like typing on a feedbackless glass slate
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>>54341252
so you do care, youre clearly attacking my preference while telling us not to attack yours.

dont try to act high and mighty, youre just as petty as us, we all want to be right
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>>54341272
Care to point my to the post where I said I'm not a hypocrite?
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>>54341319
ah yes, because youre only a faggot if you specifically proclaim that youre not. youre a faggot, anon.
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>>54331358

>samshit
>the current year
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>>54335663
Best phone I've ever had

Actually fits better into your pocket than the iPhone or S7, because it's less long. BB10 is a great OS, at least if you're not depending on every last social media app. The screen and keyboard are also superb.
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>>54340908
and they can't do shit to me
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>>54341118
But with the Priv you can even swipe on the physical keyboard :^)
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>>54331358
>Portrait
No

Why even bother?

Fuck cant modern 5" or larger phones just get flip cases with keyboards in them like surface pro?

surely the market is still there?

HTC need to step up their accessories game it literally has nothing.
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>>54335067
>mfw my country is so disorganized they dont even know what to do with all the metadata
Yay Australia, at least being technologically retarded is good sometimes.
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>>54341752
See >>54340179
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>>54331358
Sony Xperia Pro was so great.

I'd pay money for an updated model.
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>>54341795
Well metadata in Australia is stored by the service provider anyway; it has to be requested by the government on an individual basis. It also can't be sold off or shared with third parties, or you can get a hefty fine.
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>>54340564
>im plenty productive, on useful tools
so why do you not want your phone to be a useful tool? it will only help you
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I don't get it. Where are all the manufacturers flocking over what's an obvious gaping hole in the market? Are all the marketing deparments for phone companies fucking retarded? The pure touch phone is completely oversaturated, what new audience are they trying to impress with new pure glass slabs?
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>>54335514
Might as well have just said "mechanical keyboards"
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does it work on my note 5? no? then it can go fuck itself
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>>54343010
Too bad smartphones are not useful tools and one has to fight the phone to get anything done, even a simple call. At least dumb phones made calls and texts efficiently.
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>>54343081
>one has to fight the phone

jesus christ you sound like like my grandfather talking about desktop PCs 15 years ago in comparison to typewriters
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>>54343271
And your grandfather was right.
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>>54343308
>implying a desktop PC isnt infinitely more useful than a typewriter
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>>54334874
>they couldn't wait one more minute before taking that picture
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>>54339006
>having to wait for the display to come back on to end the call
one of my biggest gripes with smartphones
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>>54343338
kek
leet, eh?
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>>54343358
i dont know about you but my display comes back on before i get the phone into position to hit the end call
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>>54331358

Its going to have to be in landscape. I have full sized fingers.
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>>54343415
those buttons look pretty big bro
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>>54343359
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>>54343331
The typewriter doesn't have to be shutdown or turned on before you can use it, and you don't have to connect it to a printer to output a document. You don't need to download printers for the driver. You don't need to buy, pirate or otherwise download and install an office suite to edit text. You don't have to save your work quickly before windows shuts down your typewriter for updates.

You end up having to fight the computer to just type up something quickly as opposed to using a typewriter. A typewriter is infinitely superior to type up pure text that's not too long/doesn't require much review.

The cost of using the computer as opposed to the typewriter in terms of utility is only justified (modulo the actual investment) when the document becomes particularly complex, or when you're going to use the computer for additional tasks.

However, name one task the smartphone can perform that neither your computer or laptop nor your dumb phone can perform.
Unlike a computer v.s. typewriter, a smartphone doesn't actually add additional talking features after all. Plus, recurring costs.
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>>54343485
>typewriter doesn't let you save revisions of your work
>typewriter is made of delicate metal components that can jam
>typewriter doesn't let you backspace
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>>54343485
name one task the smartphone can perform that neither your computer or laptop nor your dumb phone can perform.

be smaller and easier to store than any of these things plus help you keep track of dates be a music player/radio you can play games if bored on the train/bus or watch youtube videos and all without needing to lug around 60 different devices
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>>54343504
>typewriter is made of delicate metal components that can jam
Significantly less so than a computer, and also significantly easier to fix.
>typewriter doesn't let you backspace
Maybe in the 18th century lmao.
>typewriter doesn't let you save revisions of your work
Typewriters do even better than that: every version of your work is saved in realtime as a hardcopy. You then have full control of whether you want to continue your work on the same copy or start somewhere else. Can't beat that!
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>>54343415
You mean sausage fingers. It's not difficult at all to use a phone keyboard.
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>>54343556
Has anyone ever been so far even go want even go look more like?
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>>54343560
>Typewriters do even better than that: every version of your work is saved in realtime as a hardcopy. You then have full control of whether you want to continue your work on the same copy or start somewhere else. Can't beat that!

a computer can be set to do this easily
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>>54343580
Sure, if you fight with it.
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>>54343565
maybe if you have manlet hands
I can't comfortably type with both hands in portrait on my g4, and landscape is just out of the question for typing
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>>54343597
>adjusting settings is fighting with it

jesus christ please tell me you are over 29 i need to know you are older then me being this obtuse
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>>54338158
i don't give a shit about your crappy japan
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>>54343601
You should try a BlackBerry keyboard, you could type with your big toe and still be accurate
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>tfw my sister used to think a "qwerty" keyboard was just the name of the keyboard on a blackberry and had nothing to do with the layout
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>>54343710
my hands are physically too big to hold a smartphone properly with both of them, and I need both thumbs to type quickly
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>>54338882
https://www.techinasia.com/japans-flip-phones-finally-dying
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>>54343817
I'm sorry, not all of us are apes
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>>54343843
it's hard being a giant man
>headrests in cars aren't useful
>have to lean forward to see traffic lights
>have to drive bigger, less fuel efficient cars
>counters are always too low
>never enough leg room literally everywhere
>have a especially hard time visiting countries populated by midgets
>have to get a phablet to have a comfortable phone
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>>54343914
ahh all the advantages of being a 5 foot 7 manlett i can fit anywhere almost everything isa comfortable i can drive whatever car i like i dont tend to scare small children


feels good being a manlett
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>>54343967
>>54343914
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>>54343967
I'll add some more
>bigger risk for cancer because reasons
>drink water like a horse because you're half the size of one
>clothes are more expensive
>gigantic fucking feet that will trip you up on staicases designed for midgets
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>>54343597
OK granddad and dad, get with the times.

This modern innovation is both distraction free and connected to the web! It solved what was previously deemed impossible
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>>54344047
but i like my smartphone why would i want that thing? looks like some hipster shit
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>>54339039
>because it's ridiculously overpriced
$380 is not overpriced.
http://slickdeals.net/f/8708591-380-new-blackberry-priv-stv100-1-32gb-4g-lte-gsm-at-t-black-ebay
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>>54344089
Yes it is.
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>>54344076
Do you write your essays and novels on your smartphone?

This doesn't apply to you if you're never doing any work and only use your gadgets to play freeium games
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>>54344119
im 29 years old what essays and or novels am i writing? and i dont commonly play games on my phone
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>>54344119
isn't that thing stupidly expensive?
why not just get a T60 and install some barebones distro with nano installed?
it's the same thing but for less than $100
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>>54344148
>I'm 29 why would I be doing any work?
t. a proud neet
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>>54344096
No it's not.
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>>54344177
how in the fuck is writing a novel that will never get published or read by anyone work? and as for essays on fucking what? i have a job but it has nothing to do with either of these things
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>>54344096
get a job you filthy neet
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>>54344222
I have a job, that's how I'm aware of the value of money.
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>>54344238
then $380 is not expensive for what you get if you're aware of the value of money, unless you want everything for free but that's another story
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>>54344274
How many good boy points do you use in exchange for the right to use the internet, Timmy?
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>>54344326
a what?
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>>54344367
he is spouting memes ignore him he is out of arguments
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>>54344149
This has an e-ink display that is perfect for text and the it has a battery life longer than 45 minutes
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>>54335067
Custom ROM with a WiFi calling only carrier, and encrypted IMs instead of SMS will fix that. Just like any computer, it's only a part of a botnet if you allow it.
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>>54344397
For the same price I can get an eMate 300 with >24h battery and still have hundreds left over
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>>54334874
>1ºC
Fucking bongland man
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>>54344893
We're talking about modern tech with today's features (eg automated backups, high res screen) not some failed antiquated apple meme with an etch a sketch display
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>>54344986
I honestly couldn't give less of a shit.
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>>54344089
Fuck me that's tempting. Too bad my old LG died a few months back and I already have a dented iPhone 5S as replacement. It's fine for me so I can't really justify dropping $380 on a Priv.
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>>54344984
>getting pissy about the rest of the worlds' units of measurement
How fucking autistic are you?
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>>54345200
That tends to happen when you're not part of the target audience
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>>54341721
Extradited
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>>54334278
Not to mention that on screen keyboard doesn't waste space
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>>54337818
They have now, it runs Android
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>>54338907
Just get a Bluetooth keyboard if you want to program on your phone
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>>54344047
>>54344119
>$500
Just put a word processor in fullscreen mode on a laptop you autist, literally the same thing.
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>>54344089
Verizon CDMA is around $550-$600 used. I'd bite at closer to $250-300.

What has me worried the most is BB going tits up and no more Android updates. Locked bootloader is pretty shitty but I'm considering it just for keyboard again.

I used q10 for a long time but switched off. Really liked the OS but without developer support it felt like I was clinging onto a sinking rock.
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>>54346217
>CDMA
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>>54331673
> said no one ever

I promise you I typed faster than you with a nokia n900 kb. I loved that phone.
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>>54341158
underage pls go
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>>54346238

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2010/12/15-phone-3-minutes-all-thats-needed-to-eavesdrop-on-gsm-call/
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>>54343556
>>be smaller and easier to store than any of these things plus help you keep track of dates be a music player/radio you can play games if bored on the train/bus or watch youtube videos and all without needing to lug around 60 different devices
All doable on a dumbphone, with better battery life even.
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>>54343556
4G hotspot.
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i cant fucking stand touchscreens.
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>>54331358
it looks like phones went all the way back to Sony Ericsson P800/P900
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>>54346195
>putting a word processor in full screen turns your machine into a portable type station with mechanical switched, e-ink display, and automated backups all at the same time allowing you to work distraction free

Please don't respond to me if you have outrageous claims
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make way for the best keyboard phone
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>>54347858
that screen:bezel ratio is ridiculous
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>>54347858
I once bought this phone, and the keyboard was malfunctioning like it has shorted somewhere.
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>>54347825
> mechanical switches
So buy a keyboard.

> e-ink display
who cares? and my computer's display actually fits a whole page on it instead of a postage stamp

if they had it curved, full 8.5" wide and had a platen knob to scroll up and down I'd at least respect their commitment to the gimmick.

> distraction free
you lack discipline
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>>54344814
Even with a custom ROM it's still a phone and still has all those vulnerabilities.
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>>54331358
I don't have Facebook so I don't need to type a lot of text on my phone. Having a separate device for that would be outright retarded. Anyway, I'm completely dependent on Minuum's word correction, I can miss every fucking letter, even type a couple more than needed, and it will still guess the word. English is not my first language so I keep forgetting words, often even vague memories of words are enough. Fucking magic.
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>>54331358
I'd still need a few onscreen keys with that layout. For my terminal apps.
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>>54348003
I think you mean 8.5 x 11 inch screen.

Anyway, you miss the advantage of being granted a mere 6 inch screen to type on. You don't seem to be the type to understand writers block.

Stating at a huge blank screen just screams at you, giving you pulses of inadequacy.

Using a simple 6" screen let's you focus in on the here-and-now. It refines your thoughts on what you're doing and what you need to be doing, instead of what ISNT there.

Also clanking away at your laptop with a mechanical keyboard plugged in isn't socially acceptable, despite what your gamer friends tell you
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>>54343485
>name one task the smartphone can perform that neither your computer or laptop nor your dumb phone can perform.
Have a decent map/navigation program.
While I don't like touchscreen keyboards I don't like numeric keyboard keyboards even more. I would rather have a full charset touch keyboard than a flip phone keyboard. Unless it was one of these sweet two-way flips.
Browse the internet. Smartphone browsers aren't good, flip phone browsers are significantly worse.
>who browses on a phone?
Me on the bus, at a store when I want to look up a product or price, in a long line for food, at work when I'm in the DC and need to confirm that a connection is working or that ports are configured correctly, on the couch when I'm a lazy fuck.
>computer or laptop
Can't fit a laptop in my pocket. Can't use a laptop to look something up while I'm out and about.

all I really want out of modern phones is a physical keyboard.
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>>54341752
>>Portrait
>No
kill yourself underage scum
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>>54343504
your response to the comparison doesn't hold up to the smartphone analogy
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>>54331358

I bet it lags too.
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>>54348822
>Can't use a laptop to look something up while I'm out and about.
This right here is why I always end up getting a phone after going a few months without one
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Nothing wrong with typing on a phone. The real problem is that it can be a nightmare to format huge amounts of text to look all nice and pretty.
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>>54349189
>Nothing wrong with typing on a phone.
t. millennial
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>>54331986

I used to sell that phone when I worked at Sprint 4 years ago.

It was a massive piece of shit.
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>>54349258

Enjoy your carpet tunnel grandpa
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>>54349399
Better than getting it from masturbating to anime all day

https://youtu.be/mbXfk5lpLew
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>>54335663
Best battery life you will get outside of autism and non-use, but I can't get past the on-screen keyboard row and now ability to bring up a complete onscreen keyboard. 3 rows for the keyboard is too short to comfortably scroll with either. What were they thinking?
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>>54348055
Did you not read what I posted? A good WiFi calling service won't share your info. In this hypothetical situation, you wouldn't even be connecting to cell towers.
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>>54349979
If you don't plan on typing you can rotate the phone and use the whole width of the keyboard for scrolling. You can also use space and shift+space like you would in a desktop browser, and t and b act as home and end
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>>54343818
RIP
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>>54331986
>not enjoying vertical keyboards
stay pleb
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>>54350170
Yeah, I absolutely love the 1:1 screen for that full length scrolling, but I also like to use the shortcuts on the keyboard constantly and generally multitask. BB10 keyboard is GOAT
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>>54349343
isn't the motorola droid line exclusive to verizon?
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>>54349991
If you have a sim card in your phone, even without paying with service you will be connected to cell towers. This is why you can still call 911 without a plan (in us at least)
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>>54349799
umm...no it's not. If I were to get ANY kind of injury, I'd prefer it be from jacking off to gooktoons
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>have galaxy note
>use gesture typing + spen
>type 80 wpm consistently

why would I need a fucking physical keyboard when I can type faster and without one
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>>54350465
>Typing on a virtual keyboard with a stylus
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Is there an E-Ink phone/tablet with a physical keyboard? Or one you could plug one into?

>tfw no Large Display e-ink device
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>>54347858
literally the worst phone ever.
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>>54350877
How?
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>>54344089
No used ones for Verizon.

Msrp is $720 ree
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>>54350885
1. You know those machines where you buy ticket for public transport or those information boards at the local mall ? Well basically those are more responsive than that fucking phone.
2. Every material used on it felt cheap
3. The screen looked bad (The mini's size was a joke too...)
4. Just look at it, does it look aesthetically
5. shit custom android

I mean the x10 was the one and only phone against the iphone 4 where I live. Most of my mates bought the sony and they all swapped it in or broke it in less than a year. I bought the iphone tho
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>>54350859
No, because even 1337 h4x0rz enjoy syntax highlighting.
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>>54351109
Every issue sans screen is either subjective or fixable with a custom ROM
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>>54350418
Yeah just enable airplane mode, enable WiFi over that. I used to do to save battery that when I didn't have service and used wifi for VoIP
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>>54343358
>>54343393
You can configure the power button as the end call button on most recent android devices.
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A larger Motorola Backflip would be a dream come true
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>>54348412
No I was saying it should be 8.5 wide but round and only like an inch high like a real typewriter
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>>54348412
> Also clanking away at your laptop with a mechanical keyboard plugged in isn't socially acceptable, despite what your gamer friends tell you

Clanking away at a mechanical keyboard in public isn't socially acceptable no matter what kind of device it's attached to. This is a device for getting the ladies (or the faggots, I don't judge) fawning over your 6" mechanical hipster dick, not to actually write something. Why else would you buy a brand-new $500 hipster garbage instead of just one of these?
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>>54349991
If your device can connect to a cell tower then it's vulnerable, it doesn't matter if you don't use the feature.

>>54350418
You don't even need a SIM card for that.

>>54351395
With the way the baseband processor is set up on almost all phones, it has more control over the phone's hardware than you do. If you put it in airplane mode it doesn't actually have to go into airplane mode. Airplane mode just keeps the OS from trying to access it. Even on phones where the baseband processor is separate and can't access the RAM/main processor like the Neo900 it can still be a problem, the Neo900 is set up by default to notify you if the baseband modem tries to do anything when it's supposed to be off but the OS can't actually stop it.
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>>54351771
What if I open up the phone and just disconnect/sever the bands?
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>>54352830
Most phones have the baseband modem built into the SOC with the phone's main processor and what would be the north and south bridge on an x86 motherboard. There's also the possibility of the device not working depending on how the firmware is set up (it might just throw up an error code and stop the device from booting). Also, trying to reflash the baseband firmware with anything corrupted will brick most devices.
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>>54331358
why do you guys prefer that static and bulky abomination rather than a interactive keyboard like swiftkey? you can write superfast with it. i don't know how fast i am, but it's definetely more than 50 words per minute. i wanna see you write 50 wpm with that creaky plastic shit.

please, explain it to me, so i can understand the hype.
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>>54353831
I prefer the tactile feedback of a physical keyboard. Sure I may be able to type slightly faster on a glass slate, but I also hate it more. If you don't, that's cool, keep doing what you're doing. I'll be sticking with a physical keyboard.
>i wanna see you write 50 wpm with that creaky plastic shit.
Here you go, it's not that piece of shit in the OP but it is a QWERTY phone keyboard.
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>>54331986
Too bad the photon q is shit, desu.
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