X86 SBCs?
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Hey /g/ I am in need of a PC, nothing fancy, just some Libre office and posting of dank memes.
But a new P.C cabinet will cost me a lot and the amount of stuff I'll have to buy is phenomenally mind fuckin(hard disk, ram, mother board). I already got the monitor, keyboard and other peripherals but need the main guy.
What do you suggest under 100$ range like that of a mini p.c or a SBC?
>>54303167
You should try not being poor. that's your best option if all you have is $100
Intel Galileo and Edison are Intel's contrived offerings to the open-source SBC "maker community" shills. I think they're like, idk 80$ or something.
>>54303206
Hows their support for Linux?
>>54303236
I think it's all they run.
>>54303180
100$ for just the cabinet is sufficient for a day to day task computer. I just don't want to built one
>>54303252
Mother fucker? Galileo 2 is a single core 400mhz 256mb sbc priced higher than a Pi 3. What is this 2003?
>>54303167
Get a used office computer, $100 can get you a pretty usable desktop.
>>54303206
these are both beyond shit and serve literally no purpose other than to be more expensive and significantly less useful than an arduino or rpi
>>54303419
poorfag op's only option
>>54303275
>x86 vs ARM
>Thinking just about hz
>>54303531
400mhz is piss poor
>>54303167
>>54303258
Get a cheap Intel NUC for 150$.
Raspberry Pi, Banana Pi and everything else are shit for almost everything.
>>54303682
I am looking at the HP Pavilion Desktop mini Pc, its good but expensive. Are NUC's worth it considering an extra hard drive is to be purchased?
>>54303167
AMD Athlon 5350 w/ mini itx board. Can be done for a hundred bucks.
>>54303755
Go on.....
>>54303728
Absolutely. I have one with an Intel Celeron N3700. They are fast enough while they are energy efficient as fuck.
>>54303798
A hard drive, a ram module that works, and a power supply. That'll set me back a fuck ton!
OP, get a real PC unless you go ARM.
x86 SBC are not worth it.
Also,
http://www.toptengamer.com/150-gaming-pc/
You can get a PC for free off craigslist or the local recycling centre.
>>54303812
Just bum a $20 pc off of craigslist
>>54303826
That's actually a nice thing for the price.
Though it may be better to go 2nd hand parts and get an used Xeon (look up benchmarks before) instead.
Not 100% sure if every Xeon has integrated graphics, but a 2nd hand GPU isn't expensive either.
>>54303846
Also this.
>>54303507
What is preventing someone from using a PI as a real computer?
>>54303885
There's a lot of stuff that won't run on ARM.
>>54303885
Cuck called arm and the fact that Pi is actually anti Foss despite it's initial charity b.s
>>54303862
I don't want to build anything, tried once last year, ended up frying the mobo
>>54303885
well that would really depend on what he wants to use it for. take a look in the alarm repo for the packages which you are used to using - no problem for terminals and most cli utils but if he wants much beyond lxde and firefox on the gui side then he'll be disappointed.
there's also the performance aspect - 1ghz quad core arm < 1 ghz single core x86, sdcard throughput < cheapest mechanical disk you can find, and 1gb ram with no or slow swap will not make for a good desktop experience at all.
>>54303977
That's only because you're stupid.
>>54303167
no all the really cheap x86 SoCs are 486 clones. mostly made for machine controls etc. if it's supposed to be used for web browsing and linux anyways, why not use one of the ARM boards? perfomance is decent on a few of them by now...
>>54303167
why not just get an intel computer stick?
>>54303167
why not just connect your phone to your monitor? you do have a smart phone right?
>>54304297
Isn't this something that can be done only with the recent flagship phones, aka 800USD?
>>54303531
lel. galileo is much slower than a full blown let's say A53 ARM core. no support for MMX or SSE either while the A53 has NEON. performance is said to be below the freakin Pentium II as it lacks all the archtiecture improvements and is rather an orginal pentium. I know that for what it is supposed to be used it doesnt need essentially any performance whatsoever, but making it so slow and charging so much money? considering all the (well supported) ARM competition i doubt intel stands a chance.
>>54304278
2nd gen isn't available as of now in my country
>>54304297
Huh? Are you stupid or are you trying to sound funny?
>>54304334
>2nd gen isn't available as of now in my country
International delivery doesn't exist in your country? Do you live in NK?
>>54304313
nope. all newish smart phones can output hdmi
>>54304313
MicroHDMI's been available on phones for at least half a decade.
enjoy not even having useable browsing on video sites, unless you run android.
>>54304349
Do you know how bad shipping rates and custom duty is in Pajeet's home country?
Remarkable, we right your code, run your companies, teach you I.T stuff, yet, hipster stuff arrives a couple years later!
>>54304385
Apparently the shipping rates are so bad you don't have toilets.
>>54303167
>x86
Why
>>54304351
How can an Android phone connected via HDMi be able to replace a Compute stick or a Mini Pc or A Mac mini?
Are you retarded, first there's the Android O.S, not very friendly to keyboard and mouse setup, then there's those apps that reload when you open chrome, I could go on.... But why bother?
>>54304391
Full Blown O.S not some tiny Cuck arm Mix tape O.S
>>54304389
I have three Toilets in my house nigga!
>>54304347
none. I'm smart and providing correct advice.
>>54304408
>he thinks you need a fucking x86 to have a fully fledged OS
jesus you fucking idiot
>>54304385
>we right your code
In my experience you _write_ it, and then it is _righted_ by an experienced American developer :^)
>>54304401
I'm not the guy telling you to use your phone, I'm just pointing out that connecting a phone to a television is by no means a new feat nor is it reserved for flagships.
>>54304418
>Arm:- Tiny versions of the elder x86 siblings.
>>54304416
How the fuck does one connect a keyboard, mouse to an android phone? One over Bluetooth and another over OTG? Than experience the lag?
>>54304408
By toilets, I mean receptacles linked to pipes and stuff, not a door/window that goes to the street where you shit in the open, you know.
>>54304437
>How the fuck does one connect a keyboard, mouse to an android phone?
>Feels competent to judge a CPU architecture
>>54304429
But it doesn't come handy for my situation, since Kitkat, you can mirror your phone to T.V. But is worthless advice to me
>>54304439
You left out my answer in the same post
>>54304425
>Experienced American, developer
Kek, Hi my name is Dave, how may I help you?
>>54304439
That's what I have, three of them!
>>54304437
>How the fuck does one connect a keyboard, mouse to an android phone?
Bluetooth keyboard with USB mouse
USB keyboard with Bluetooth mouse
Bluetooth keyboard with Bluetooth mouse
USB keyboard with USB mouse
>>54304437
>Arm:- Tiny versions of the elder x86 siblings.
your knowledge of computer architecture is infantile at best
>>54304439
rekt
>>54304478
ARM is good if you want to save on power supply bills. But more hungry jobs and multitasking, boy do they suck!
>>54304477
Bluetooth peripherals on Android have really bad latency issues.
>>54304467
Say what you want, third world man.
You will always be under.
>>54304505
>under
Crickey mate, I think you got me confused with an Aussie!
>>54304501
>Incompetence bundled with arrogance
>Bluetooth peripherals on Android have really bad latency issues.
Then use USB.
>>54304501
>But more hungry jobs and multitasking, boy do they suck!
http://softiron.co.uk/products/
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/server/opteron-a-series
>>54304501
>Bluetooth peripherals on Android have really bad latency issues.
Okay, and? Are USB peripherals nonexistent now?
>>54304541
>Then use USB
Android only supports one usb input device at one time, you can't connect a OTG cable, then a USB hub, then a mouse and keyboard into it and expect them to work.
>>54304554
>>54303167
Buy a used Dell optiplex.
>>54304565
Nice advice, were it in my budget, I'd have bought it already.
>>54304564
>Android only supports one usb input device at one time, you can't connect a OTG cable, then a USB hub, then a mouse and keyboard into it and expect them to work.
Just tried it, you're wrong.
>>54304564
>Android only supports one usb input device at one time
Literally the first result on Google.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN5_kJjKT5o
So what is a "full blown OS" and how is an 8-core 64-bit ARM not sufficient?
You *could* use a Raspberry Pi, it runs LibreOffice and a browser, but it's not very powerful and you won't have a good time with it. Some sort of refurbed ex-business PC from eBay is a good bet, something like http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Windows-7-Desktop-PC-Core-2-Duo-OptiPlex-Dual-Core-Computer-4GB-RAM-Wi-Fi-/141684027967?hash=item20fd06b23f. The hard drive is small and slow, 4GB RAM is pretty basic etc. but something like that should be fine for browsing and office. Personally I'd probably wipe the drive and install one of the more popular linux distros, probably Ubuntu mini net install, basic install comes in at somewhere like 5GB, but Win7 is fine too. I have a Dell D620 laptop http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CHEAP-WINDOWS-7-Dell-D620-Laptop-Core-2-Duo-FAST-WIFI-2GB-RAM-with-power-adapter/301906095978? which is slightly less powerful than the desktop machine but has bonus of portability. Not sure what is available where you live but here in the UK if I had only $100 =~£65 those would be the sort of options I would be considering.
>>54304637
>how is an 8-core 64-bit ARM not sufficient?
How many apps actually use those 8 cores?
Can it still beat an Xeon at data processing, video rendering? Infact can ARM even do video rendering in Adobe Premier before choking? Does Adobe even have ARM version of Premier?
>>54304717
>Adobe Premier
I give up
>>54304700
Libre calc ARM, chokes when you ask it to do sums for you. Matlab like sums that is!
>>54304725
Implying Linux has a better alternative to it.
>>54304746
Quit acting like Adobe products are every day programs for regular computer users.Reread the OP, I don't think he's going to be running Premier, or Photoshop, or any the other Adobe products that ~1% of people actually use.
>>54303779
Can get the cpu (socket am1 5350 4 core 2.05 ghz 25w tdp) mobo, 250gb ssd and 8gb of 1866 speed ddr3 (only the Asus board supports that high of speed supposedly) and I think a suitable case for around 200$ last I was looking. The am1 5350 socket also supports pcie 2.o @4x.
>>54304788
Quit acting like an ARM CPU will be able to handle everyday tasks
>>54304835
I never said it would. For the record though, it will be.
>>54304437
you do realize you can use a usb hub right?
>>54304881
He didn't >>54304564
>>54304893
you can so long as the hub has a power source
>>54304904
I know
>>54304904
Shit, my hub didn't have independent power source. OTG probably wasn't strong enough!
>>54303167
O.P here, how does the setup in the pic sound?
Will I run into compatibility issues with this setup? Don't wanna burn another mobo!
The UpBoard is x86 for 90$ish freedom dollars.
>>54305053
Get one of those $100 Atom x5 8300 Mini PC from Ali express / gear best. They are fine for running libre office and shitposting. For 150 zou can even get one with 64Gb storage and 4gb ram.
http://www.aliexpress.com/premium/Mini-PC.html?ltype=wholesale&d=y&origin=y&isViewCP=y&spm=2114.01020208.0.325.IiuegU&site=glo&groupsort=1&g=y&SortType=price_desc&SearchText=Mini+PC&initiative_id=SB_20160430034437&shipCountry=si&needQuery=n&maxPrice=100&filterCat=70803003%2C70805%2C70802
>>54305203
what OS do you install
>>54304804
Yup, that's pretty much my setup.
If you cheap out in storage and ram, you can get lower than that. Also, at least in Europe there's cheap cases with builtin PSU.
>>54304835
>Quit acting like an ARM CPU will be able to handle everyday tasks
Are you illiterate or willfully ignorant?
http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/server/opteron-a-series
>>54305203
No aliexpress/baba in my country
>>54303167
buy a used desktop or laptop from ebay or similar service
>>54303167
Just get a refurb netbook for $130 off eBay.
I just got a 2go CTL Classmate NL3 (N2600 based)for $60 on eBay with 4GB RAM and 200GB HDD. I replaced the HDD with an Intel 320 SSD I had though.
The NL3 is like the bastard offspring of a Panasonic Toughbook and cheap netbook. I bought it for field work to run various external diagnostic/test hardware. Not super powerful but it gets the job done and the touch screen comes in handy. I wanted the NL4 but wasn't willing to spend $200 for one.
>>54305053
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KLs3zy
Complete pc that'll do everything you need without issue and it's only 44$ more than the incomplete build you picked out. Could drop the ssd and it would only be 8$ more than what you posted. You also have the option to add another 4gb later down the road, plus a dedicated gpu if or whatever in the pcie slot.
>>54305053
That's not a SBC
>>54304804
I just bought an AM1 motherboard and 5350 from microcenter for $40, I had an old case, hard drive and RAM and it runs great.
Essentially a $40 quad core system with decent graphics
>>54305851
>>54305979
>>54306734
Ain't no refurbished market in India, just guys selling their junk with semen on it, asking outrageous prices. Believe me, most of the time, a circa 3-5year old netbook bought cheap can do wonders with an ssd and Ram upgrade, but the initial price of the netbook has to be cheap
>>54306176
Can I skim on the Western digital gate H..D.D and go with the ssd only, space isn't a concern for me. Will probably install linux and be done with it, not a media heavy p.c. Just work, what about it actually running? Compatible?
Don't need case either, can make one with plywood and have an old case too!
>>54303167
AMD kabini quad core, mitx mobo, and RAM could be had for @ $100.
>>54304313
I could do it on my S4 and I think the S3 could as well. USB to HDMI adapter. Needed a powersource though which was a bit shit.
