... Chernobyl accident is the one of two attributed to the highest 7 level of “safety significance”. It was was the most dangerous accident which took place in nuclear industry
>>54288850
This is actual technology, so you'll get maybe 10-20 replies max
>>54288850
No super mutant monsters came out of there :(
>>54288850
I thought the Fukushima accident had overtaken Chernobyl as the most dangerous accident in the nuclear industry?
>>54288953
>he's never seen the things in the Red Forest
>>54288953
>elephants foot
>>54288850
>after the disaster
There are people arguing whether it isn't better to say
>of the disaster
I kind of second that thought, the accident is 30 now its aftermath kind of "contained" locally to some degrees, but it's far from over.
>>54289064
You mean that accident where thousands of people died due to flooding, and not a single person has died due to radiation or even suffered radiation sickness, yet that's the only thing that's ever mentioned when people talk about the 2011 earthquake?
What made you think that was the most dangerous accident in nuclear history?
>>54288850
> mfw I live relatively close to Чepнoбыль
:S
>still no S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2
>>54289944
>Чepнoбыль
is that close to chernobyl?
>>54289778
afaik 2 people died of radiation in fukushima. This makes it the second most dangerous nuclear disaster so far. Nuclear reactor danger is overrated as fuck. From 0,75% to 1,2% chance of thyroid cancer in newborns. Who even gives a fuck. Yes it's bad and prevention is key, but nuclear is still the only way to get out of fossils as fast and safely as possible, before we gas ourselves. I should know because I'm belgian.
>>54289104
>>54289175
Explain
>>54290030
Got your iodine pills yet anon?
>>54290055
Didn't you play STALKER Call Of Pripyat? (;
>>54290029
Well I live at about 600km away from it.
>>54289064
Fukushima didn't blow tons of radioactive material into the atmosphere.
Fuck, people I work with live in Minamisoma which is less than 30km as the crow flies from Fukushima plant.
>>54290239
>Fukushima didn't blow tons of radioactive material into the atmosphere
No it didn't, it just blew tons of radioactive water into the sea for years
>>54290030
A 2nd Shoah, end all nuclear power now.
>>54289064
Maybe you forgot about the 25 foot wall of ocean water?
>>54290272
Which is far less of an issue.
>>54290272
>radiation so spooky
>oil spills, whatever
Sound like a true American. I live in ohio
>>54290272
Just as well water is one of the best barriers for nuclear radiation then
>>54290030
And an entire generation of children are ill as fuck and will soon die of radiation.
>>54290462
that's not from fukushima, those children got cancer from your posting m8
>>54290429
Yeah sure for an economy that lives off the sea it sure isn't, let's see how people enjoy that green meat sushi.
>>54290489
>green meat sushi
It's called wasabi you ignorant gaijin.
>>54288865
How is this actual technology, retardo? Nobody cares if slavshits blew their plant or whatever, literally nobody cared 30 years ago, nobody cares now and nobody would care if slavshit got wiped off the face of the earth in a nuclear blast tomorrow, because their contribution to actual technology is minimal.
>>54290661
Pajeet shouldn't you get back to the phone?
>>54291199
Are you a slavshit? What's it like living in a commie block infested shithole of a country?
>>54290272
You think it's not ongoing? Kek
>>54290030
>afaik 2 people died of radiation in fukushima
[citation needed]
>There have been no deaths or cases of radiation sickness from the nuclear accident, but over 100,000 people were evacuated from their homes to ensure this. Government nervousness delays the return of many.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/safety-and-security/safety-of-plants/fukushima-accident.aspx
>>54289064
Not the little homo you replied to earlier but,
Completely wiped out the fishing industry in the pacific.
We are just now allowed to eat our own crab in San Fransisco bay
> let commies do things
> meltdown
> let terrorists have jobs
> nuclear scare
it's all the white man's fault, right?
>>54290480
Watch the edge boyo
>>54290489
Whales are very big and resilient. I'm sure they can survive some fizzy water to stay alive for Japanese fishing ships to research them
>>54290480
Underrated post
>>54290030
Are you paid for this or are you really this dense?
>>54288865
>40
get fucked kidda
>>54291233
No I am not, but you just confirmed what you are. Go pester tech support about your java issue with oracle.
>>54290661
Did you forgot to take your pills you spastic fuck?
>>54290439
Oh you are this faggot that spawned another thread full of Bullshit. I sincerely hope you receive medical treatment.
>>54291405
>you just confirmed what you are
How? Can you please elaborate? Because I fail to follow your dumb fucked up retard logic.
>>54288850
YOU SAID THERE WILL BE 39 PHOTOS?
WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS OP?
>>54291417
Go kill yourself, cumstain.
>>54291441
Did slavs cucked you f.am?
>>54291466
Slavshit can't cuck anyone, since they're being cucked by Putin.
>>54290055
It's called "corium", the mass you get when your reactor melts down and the whole liquid uranium/Plutonium mixes with concrete, iron and all the other crap.
Hint: Dont touch it - it's so radioactive it would melt your hand.
>>54290661
I'm Slav and completely agree with you.
>>54291310
USA destroyed fucking ussr
>>54290030
>Nuclear reactor danger is overrated as fuck.
Unless you're the fucking Soviet Union and decide not to fucking tell anyone about tchernobyl until Sweden's Geiger counters started to pick that shit up.
These replies lmfao. Didn't know this board was full of spastics and samefaggots.
>>54291488
>russia
>slavs
This is meme, russian are Mongol subhumans, not even slavs.
This couldn't happen in America because God protects his home country
Chernobyl's disaster is my favourite disaster.
Radiactivity has so much fantasy potential and the fact it happened in a foreign land known for keeping shit from the rest of the world makes it even more fantastic.
We still can't safely eat local mushrooms in central Europe, 1000 km away from Chernobyl due to Caesium-137. The half life is about 30 years.
>>54291665
God bless America!
>>54291640
New here?
>>54291546
It's so radioactive, if you were in viewing distance you'd probably die
>>54291865
>probably
You would definitely die almost instantly.
>>54291546
why don't they just put a giant pool of water, or another liquid, under the reactor to cool that shit down if there's a melt down? Then build a system that could handle the shit ton of steam created
>>54291640
Dumb frogposter
>>54290030
>0,75% to 1,2% chance of thyroid cancer in newborns. Who even gives a fuck
How about the 1/100 newborns with cancer
>>54291883
what about that guy that got exposed to a poop ton of radiation and lived for a little bit till his skin melted off
>>54291865
>>54291883
Yeah, thing is, you'd die anyway even if it wasn't radioactive and was just giving out heat, people love to say how it was so radioactive it'd kill you for even looking at it, and sure enough, being anywhere near that clusterfuck would cause your entire body to go haywire and cancer itself dead, but it was unreachable for a while mostly cause it was hot.
>>54291900
UHHHHHHH
Did you forget the reactor flooded in fukushima
kind of made the reactor hard to get too
>RADIATION SO HIGH AT FUKUSHIMA, TEPCO’S ROBOTS CAN’T SURVIVE
http://fukushimaupdate.com/radiation-so-high-at-fukushima-tepcos-robots-cant-survive/
>>54291937
I think they kept his body alive more than him surviving that long. He was a medical anomaly turned into an experiment.
>>54290661
I can't eat most boars or truffels because of their accident. In fact most people in Europe can't
>>54291938
Theres might be a way of using that heat to makes energy. Yet alot of people would die while working on it.
>>54291726
you'll like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Karachay
>>54291865
yeah, 30 years ago. Today, not so much, probably wouldn't stay around it more than a couple of minutes though.
>>54292792
this
>http://www.damninteresting.com/in-soviet-russia-lake-contaminates-you/
is better IMO
>>54290029
Чepнoбыль is just the Cyrillic spelling of Chernobyl
>>54292829
it was just a reference
>>54291883
>>54291865
>>54292901
A-are those guys daijobu?
>>54292946
They're fucking dead, anon.
>>54292901
whats happening here
>>54292946
iie
>>54291900
>why don't they just put a giant pool of water, or another liquid, under the reactor to cool that shit down if there's a melt down?
The didn't have a high enough pool of water nearby in Chernobyl.
Fukushima had no such problem; it was next to the goddamn ocean.
>>54293015
Elephants Foot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corium_%28nuclear_reactor%29#Chernobyl_accident
>>54293084
yeah but why are those dudes there?
>>54292946
>>54293015
It's a dude who worked near the elephant foot for decades, even back when it was so radioactive that it killed you if you stood around it for 5 minutes.
That pic is him doing a selfie, but he set the exposure time too long, and the pic ended up with an afterimage as he was busy with work and moved around.
His name is Arthur Kornyejev, and he is still alive and completely healthy. Apparently the new York times did an interview with him a little while ago.
>>54293112
found the article
http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/the-famous-photo-of-chernobyls-most-dangerous-radioactive-material-was-a-selfie
>>54293095
>>54293112
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/27/science/chernobyl-capping-a-catastrophe.html?_r=0
>Mr. Korneyev’s job was to locate the fuel within the sarcophagus and determine radiation levels to limit the exposure of other workers.
>>54290480
10/10
>>54289064
It took a Tsunami to cause 2 people to die from nuclear plants.
A few years ago 4 engineers died during maintenance of a Dutch wind turbine, which caught on fire. No one cared.
>>54291546
If you even get near that thing you'll die in minutes. When samples were first taken, a marksman shot at it to break chips off it. Then robots were sent in to collect the chips. Even the robots had trouble handling the huge amounts of radiation.
>ITT: dense fuckheads who think nuclear power isn't dangerous
If it's not dangerous, go touch the elephants foot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techa_River
good times
>>54291603
I think you should open a history book. Even Wikipedia knows better than the drivel you've just punched into your keyboard with sausage fingers.
>>54293314
if solar power is safe, go touchthe sun
Chernobyl NEVER HAPPENED.
>>54293396
50000 people used to live there. Now it's a ghost town.
>>54293441
How'd a muppet like you get past selection?
>>54292987
The guy in the picture is still alive.
>>54293385
It's not possible to get to the sun. Also, the sun isn't going to sit in a hole in the ground for 500 years.
>>54288850
>dangerous
lmao
only 30 people died.
Ukrainian government is just spreading FUD about it to drain as much money as possible to "contain" remains of the reactor. The truth is people are uneducated and dumb and believes all this stupid shit about thousands of people dying after months after explosion.
>>54292792
good fucking lord man.
>>54288850
Ever heard of Mayak (1957)? Since the Russians didn't provide any reliable data, one has to estimate the amount of radioactive contamination. Might be higher than the Chernobyl accident.
>>54293484
You belong here:
>>>/b/
>>54290272
> water
> radioactive
Pick one. Faggot. Water blocks nearly all radiation.. if you pee in the ocean it causes more harm
>>54293745
is... is this guy serious?
>>54288850
Reminder that Chernobyl is the result of people deciding that it would be really neat to see what would happen if you deliberately disabled safety systems on an inherently unsafe reactor design that didn't even have a proper containment building..
>>54293894
He's American
>>54294572
I mean, I am too... I'd expect that they'd have at least basic knowledge of radiation...
>>54294298
They were trying to make the reactor safer.
>>54291933
underrated post
>Children through Ukraine and Belarus are still developing Chernobyl Heart
>People who still live near the Exclusion Zone continue to have bad Bone aches, due to the body mistaking in caesium instead of potassium.
>Horses and Cattle that now live in the Zone have a higher risk of thyroid cancer
>On April 11, 2016 a glass of milk from a Dairy Farmer in Belarus was tested to have 10 times the limit of the nation's food safety limits. Even though he lived outside the Zone.
Shit's Badass.
>>54295165
Also, in regards to the Elephant's Foot. The US Department of Energy estimated that it would kill you within 300 seconds.
>30 seconds of exposure, dizziness and fatigue will find you a week later.
>Two minutes of exposure and your cells will soon begin to hemorrhage
>four minutes: vomiting, diarrhea, and fever.
>300 seconds and you have two days to live
It's currently emitting one-tenth of the radiation it once had. So instead of a few minutes, you'd die in about an Hour. It's still claimed to be the most dangerous piece of waste in the world.
>>54293246
>It took a Tsunami to cause 2 people to die from nuclear plants.
From a 40-year-old nuclear plant that was in the process of being decommissioned and replaced by modern, safer designs.
>>54288850
Is it possible to increase the decay rate of the nuclear fuel by heating it, assuming it decays via alpha or beta emission? Wouldn't an increase in energy allow the particle (He2+ or e-) to escape more easily?
>>54295293
These figures are without any protection, surely?
>>54295718
Increasing the decay rate might only be possible by intake/fetching of slow neutrons. To slow down some neutrons in the melted core (which I assume should have 'some') one has to bring some material in to moderate the neutron speed. The consequences of how to build this are hilarious.
>>54295986
It's actually not specified in their report.
But I'd guess so.
At best it'd be just a respirator, not a full hazmat suit.
>>54295590
>From a 40-year-old nuclear plant that was in the process of being decommissioned and replaced by modern, safer designs.
Which was being delayed because environmentalists were blocking construction of the new reactor and it's not like Dai Ichi can convince its shareholders it can run off of good faith and future promises like AMD somehow can.
>>54296486
Funny, so the Fukushima disaster was basically caused by environmentalists?
>>54291900
You're basically describing what a boiling water reactor is in essence.
The general cause of a meltdown is the fact that water isn't being replenished so it boils away allowing the nuclear fuel to over heat and melt.
So your pool under the reactor to catch the corium and cool it would effectively have to be a better version of the reactors cooling mechanism or else it, too, will just boil off.
So why not just implement a better cooling mechanism so you don't end up getting corium?
In the case of Chernobyl the fault was more in the fact that you had two people who weren't able to directly communicate with each other separately controlling the water and the rods, both trying to compensate for the condition of the reactor caused by the other person.
In Fukushima they hadn't considered a 10m high tsunami and that exposed poor design of backup systems that were supposed to keep the reactors cooled in the case of a loss of power.
>>54297176
They were a large componenet of this shitstorm, yes. You could argue why didn't Dai Ichi shore up the storm wall or move the backup? But I think they were caught up in a bind. Those upgrades might have been blocked by whoever holds the money. "Why bother moving the generator if there's a storm wall? Why bother with the upgrades when you're gonna decomission the place soon?" The process of which took so long because of, again, environmentalists.
Fukishima was boring, nothing interesting happened.
If you want to read interesting radiation-related stuff, read the story of the first respondents in Chernobyl who were basically kicking pieces of the nuclear reactor core around because they didn't know what it was an the socialist regime didn't want anyone to find out about its fuck up.
Also read up on the Demon Core, Hiroshi Ouchi and Albert Stevens, a guy who they thought was terminally ill so they injected with plutonium, but ended up surviving for decades with no real problems.
