>simple messenger app
>over 80MB
How the fuck is this even possible? What shit does it contain?
>>54287149
>what shit does it contain
Botnet
>>54287149
>ow the fuck is this even possible? What shit does it contain?
fuckoff_emoticon.png 12MB
>>54287149
it contains a js engine and a render engine for web pages
malware
Botnet.
>>54287210
Not to mention its own camera and video frames, media browser and all that shiz.
>>54287210
but why
>>54287210
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/138349
Windows 95 only required 40MB, pretty sure it could render webpages suitable for transmitting messages.
Why are all programmer-chucks so pathetic at their trade?
Mechanical engineers make planes lighter, civil engineers make buildings cheaper, electrical engineers make electronics more efficient, and computer science nerds just get fatter and more needy...
All smartjews are botnet.
>>54287236
Why what? Why program in js? Because it's developer's preference.
Of you you think runtime for stuff used natively in your OS is smaller, you're in for a huge surprise.
>>54287268
Civil engineer here, if I had to build a house with 20 years ago standards it would cost a fraction of what it costs now.
Guess the same goes for software.
>>54287268
Because most of them are complete shit-tier "specialists" with a fucking janitor or barber education, who has learned how to code with "coding for complete dumbfucks 101". 95% of these code monkeys need to burned in Auschwitz.
>>54287307
While that is true, my experience is that like for like structures are massively cheaper.
I'm a mech, so pretty much everything is cheaper when comparing like for like.
>>54287231
UC Browser has all that shit under 15 MB
>>54287149
It got uninstalled so fast from my device, annoying resource hungry piece of shit. I'm using their mobile version if I need to access inbox.
>>54287307
The gaming industry drop the RAM price so low that 8gb is standard on every computer now.
Plus developers assume that their program have the privilege to eat up the whole system's resources.
>>54287149
>2016+1
>>54287307
A house build with standards from 20 years ago would still be just as strong as house built with today's standard. It might lack few things like ethernet jack or led lighting, or solar panels, but it would still be structurally sound and comfortable to live in.
If given the pricing difference and the available choice, anyone would choose this.
>>54287865
>the industry did nothing after katrina and other hurricanes, earthquakes
>>54287884
>living in places where Man was not supposed to live
How's that levee working out for ya?
>>54287149
the smilies
>>54287149
Seriously, if you must have facebook just use it in your browser. Facebook apparently can't make apps that don't drain all your battery and crash.
>>54287865
Are you implying that apps should go back to 20 years ago?
>>54287907
By that logic we would still be in stone age
>>54287149
Besides messaging it comes with a suite built into it containing the emojis, other misc smiles, photo gallery, and camera deposition, phone, video recording, GPS and phone. It's also a botnet.
Don't install it because the app does have serious memory leakage issues.
>>54287149
>almost 2017
>not using telegram
that shit is 30 mb and it's borderline feature creep with the constant adding of features
>>54287815
>phone app
>talks about desktops
Good one jackass.
>>54287931
It would actually set a good guide for the app developers to look back at how things were done 20 years ago.
>Doom ran on 2.39 MB
>websites pages load that much on average today
>80 MB for a messenger app
Literally WAT
Static linking meme
can't be as bad as this.
the android version anyway.
the ios one is fine.
>>54287884
Whole country made of plywood and you wonder how could two planes destory WTC.
Imagine japans using plywood.
Just use better material like whole civilized world.
>>54287836
fuck off hipster
>>54287149
Facebook and messenger kills a phones battery lad. Time to uninstall them and if need be use chrome to respond to messages.
because facebook. they separated them because they hit the limit of number of the function a program can have (65536)
>>54289089
>niggerbook
Kill yourself faggot
>>54289089
Fuck OFFFF NORRRMIEEEE!! REEEE!
>>54289066
Modern Japanese construction industry is corrupt as shit and their building standards are terrible.
Meanwhile the 500 year old temples built out of wood are still standing after multiple earthquakes because they were designed to be flexible and easily repaired.
>>54287149
Can any normie or semi-social person here tell me why do you need facebook (messenger) in your phone? What's so fucking important that you must talk 24/7 about it? Don't you run out of topics to talk about?
>>54287307
He's not talking about making house with tinfoil you know.
>>54289146
i only have messenger for shitposting with my friends
>What's so fucking important that you must talk 24/7 about it? Don't you run out of topics to talk about?
no fucking idea, op must be a faggot
>>54287149
>simple
its not a "simple" messenger
>>54288929
whoa, hangouts has a worse android version than ios? isn't it made by google?
>>54289105
They don't for me
>>54289171
Pretty sure it's two different teams for all of the cross-platform google applications. I don't use google apps, but the general consensus is that the iOS one's are better. Retarded, right?
>>54289171
it's a complete mess on android.
force closes, slow, fails to load history/takes a few seconds to pull up history, couldn't send videos for the longest time (not sure if it does now).
this is after the app was overhauled. it was significantly worse before.
google doesn't even set it as the default sms app any more.
the hangouts android team is possibly the worst google division.
>>54287149
>tfw the main driver of hardware upgrades is no longer cutting edge games, but rapidly bloating software, javashit and OS cruft
>>54289208
>>54289218
>Retarded, right?
massively
i use gmail and google maps apps on my iphone, pretty good desu. i kinda thought they would be better and more feature rich on android
>>54289208
remix os is not a phone
>>54289222
I would give up on it completely, but Hangouts Dialer free phone calls are just too good to give up.
>>54289229
>>54289246
No idea what you're trying to say there, i'm just saying they use pretty much no battery for me on idle
>>54289225
>my hardened Gentoo install uses 20MB/16GB in my laptop and compiles the kernel is 10 minutes
Feels bretty good desu
![ZZPdzvlpK9r_Df9C3M7j1rNRi7hhHRvPhlklJ3lfi5jk86Jd1s0Y5wcQ1QgbVaAP5Q=w300[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/GOxntoX.png "ZZPdzvlpK9r_Df9C3M7j1rNRi7hhHRvPhlklJ3lfi5jk86Jd1s0Y5wcQ1QgbVaAP5Q=w300[1].png")
>simple api wrapper app
>over 300mb (no, not cache)
glad I uninstalled this POS
>>54289244
most gapps are fine on android. hangouts is a glaring exception. did i forget to mention that the app got the material design update on ios before android - by quite a few days iirc.
>>54289244
I only use a heavily locked-down Maps app on Android, because it's the only good maps app, honestly. I think it works fine, but I've never used the iOS version because most everyone just uses Apple Maps, so I don't know.
So what's a good alternative to fb messenger?
>>54289305
Over 300 MiB?! Are you shitting me? For fucks sake, what the fuck are they doing.
>>54289313
Facebook Lite will give you messenger and facebook in one tiny package. It's pretty bare bones. And you need to sideload it.
>>54289325
I am not shitting you.
>>54289313
Install a really old version of Facebook. One before they split it into Facebook and Messenger. Should be about 13-15 MB .apk file.
>>54289305
facebook is a fucking mess and memory hog on ios too. also why that pos needs to be updated every two weeks i don't know
>>54289312
apple maps sucks desu
>>54289144
>Modern Japanese construction industry is corrupt as shit and their building standards are terrible.
propoganda by china
>>54289313
A web broser
>>54289305
I've had a HTC Wildfire S with 512mb internal storage. I couldnt update facebook because it wouldnt fit in the phone. It wouldnt allow me to move it to sd card or delete it either.
>>54289390
>I couldnt update facebook because it wouldnt fit in the phone. It wouldnt allow me to move it to sd card or delete it either.
This is amazing
>>54287149
Welcome to 2016
>>54289415
It wouldnt allow me to move or delete because it was part of HTC Senses rom or something
>>54289305
>over 300mb
Wew what the fuck
This bloat needs to be stopped
>>54289146
I don't have actual facebook, just messenger so I can receive the notification instead of having to check it in the browser. I have people who depend on me to receive their message on time.
>>54289305
Must be related to being updated every week. Messenger app too.
>>54289146
You don't -need- it, just like you don't need a smartphone at all. But it's nice to have it.
>>54287149
Open the apk in 7-zip and fucking look you twit.
Fuck.
>>54287149
It has become a policy of mine to not use a wrapper for a website that can be accesed with a browser
>Amazon
>Google+
This is what happens when you let women code
>>54287149
Facebook's programmers don't know how yo program
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k56wra39lwA
>>54290035
Same here, except it hasn't become, it's always been.
I have never understood why you need special apps to access everything you can with a browser. I guess performance?
But I don't access websites with my phone anyway unless I really need to check something and it cannot wait, so couldn't care less.
>>54287149
How come nobody wrote a Messenger client that doesn't suck fucking ass?
>>54287149
>le facebook
FUCKING NORMIES GET OUT OF MUH /g/ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54289390
I had that phone too. I rooted and used link2sd to make it think that my 32gb SD card was the internal memory.
>>54291489
/g/ has been normalfag territory for a while now, so has been the whole site.
>>54290035
Don't forget 4chan
Quality Facebook programming with 6, 000 Java classes.
>>54291489
>recognizing the icon
Close the door on your way out.
>>54291623
I thought he was being ironic.
>>54291590
18k actually. See >>54290847
>>54288037
>telegr
this
>>54291675
It's hard to tell if someone is being ironic here or actually autistic. Poe's law is in full force on /g/.
>>54289225
>tfw no monster hunter for vita
>>54291719
I would think that autistics would be the ones that jump to conclusions without thinking about what was posted.
I have an autistic friend that basically has the same behavior.
>>54288037
>telegram
it's really fast on everything and not buggy at all for me...
Double encryption with secret chats, server side and client side.
and a ton of options to play with..
it's the only one that is simple and "secure".
>>54287397
>using chink botnet
>>54291623
if you can recognize the swastika, does it make you a Nazi?
>>54291792
Not that comparable. Swastika is a popular symbol. App icon is something you see when you search for it on Google Play and then install it on your phone.
>>54287149
>What shit does it contain
Communication protocols, UI elements code to interface with the API's on android devices a database that ties into facebook, just to name a few
>>54287836
>Windows 95
>2016 + 1 = ...
>Not the current year ...
The facebook api isn't open?
Why hasn't the free software movement made a better alternative yet?
>>54289222
>Checked
At one point i think google had 5 different applications to send a SMS message
>>54291960
Messenger software is only useful if people use it.
You have to convince normies that Facebook isn't worth using.
Good luck.
>>54287865
In what third world country do you live that the energy efficiency of a building is not yet considered
>>54292013
If /g/ was half of what it praise itself to be, there would be already a whorty open source app.
>>54292051
>there would be already a whorty open source app.
No, there would be 5 different apps trying to get everyone to use one, and then another one would pop up claiming to be better than them all, this is the open sores way!
>>54292051
People who care about free software usually don't use or endorse Facebook
>>54289332
Literally this. With Lite there's no reason to use either the Facebook app or the Messenger app, they're both battery and memory hogs for no real reason. Minus few infrequent drawbacks, there's no reason not to use Lite. Even those "drawbacks" are one-time stuff that you can do via the browser facebook.
>>54291792
yes
>>54291902
I have normie friends, some random day while having lunch I looked at one of their phones and asked them what that was. Mystery solved.
>>54289305
Holy shit, I've gotta uninstall this shit.
What's with app developers thinking they can bloat the shit out of their apps?
Is it some kind of jew scheme to make them upgrade due to it being 'slow' and 'full' from all this crap.
>>54292373
>Is it some kind of jew scheme to make them upgrade due to it being 'slow' and 'full' from all this crap.
Yes.
Also, change that fucking font.
>>54292373
I installed facebook Lite, it's considerably.... lighter
>>54292616
Is it faster and more responsive?
>>54287231
doesnt it have some kind of call system too?
>>54292640
I think so, but I'm not to be trusted on this. Try it. I think it might be missing a couple of functions, though.
All the pusheen emoticons
>>54291988
>Checked
>>54289305
The browser is all you need, it wven allows notifications on chrome if you really are that desperate
>>54289305
>>54292373
>that font
Holy shit what is wrong with you
how
>>54294469
Designated programmers
>>54292885
/thread
>>54288157
Not that gushy but 2gb of RAM is becoming standard on android phones.
>>54294762
>tfw a phone has more ram than your current pc
guess its time to upgrade :c
>>54287176
Basically this. Smartphone display density is absurd, so all the graphical assets are fucking enormous.
>>54287210
>>54287231
This too a lot of the time. We need a nice lightweight framework that works like CSS to let programs generate UI features on the fly, would make for basically unlimited scalability with less download size.
Shite
>>54289208
This. Messenger doesn't even show up in my battery consumption.
The shitty battery life is cause my brightness was cranked for my class readings in seminar so my screen was on the whole time. I was using messenger intermittently and it didn't even show an impact.
>Inb4 eww touchjizz
No custom ROMs for my phone sadly
>>54292640
Its actually a lot slower on my Nexus 7. Probably because it doesn't rely on GPU acceleration
>>54294893
It might not show up there but better battery stats and amplify certainly pick up on all of the alarms.
>>54294762
I meant to say "guy" not gushy.
>>54294845
Dude how. RAM is so cheap that I, a broke college kid, can afford it and have 32gb extra laying around cause its the wrong clock rate for my mobo.
Are you shit posting from pic related?
>>54287149
it's not a native application. It's the iOS app converted with a facebook internal wrapper.
It looks like shit.
The controls are shit.
The performance is shit.
Everything else is shit about it.
Same is true for the instagram app (50mb) on WM10.
>>54294956
I just installed BBS.
I'll report back after a bit of use.
Reminder that smartphone threads are by far the most pleb threads on all of /g/
idk why not find out
>>54295143
Better than vape fag threads though.
>>54294848
Why is the Starbucks app so big?
>>54295108
If you already have greenify you might not see much. For me it varied a lot between different versions. If it ever did show up it was always amongst the top 3 applications for battery drain.
>>54295243
Ah, I have greenify, that's probably why I don't see anything.
>>54295347
Greenify gets it under control pretty well and with amplify you can cut the alarms down even more.
>>54292373
>cthulhu virtual pet
mah nigga. better feed him though.
>>54288037
>>54289089
>waah hipster! get out of my safe space :((((
>>54289146
Some people use it as their preferred method of reaching individuals/having group chats.
>>54287931
What kind of stupid question is that? Why wouldnt you want something to have the same features but overall run better?
>>54289359
Ironic.
>>54289146
It's actually REALLY fucking good at sharing files and drafts to groups of people.
I use it for image and data sharing (all work related).
There are alternatives, but messenger suits everyone rather than just 70% or 80%.
>>54292351
>i have ... friends
how the fuck can you call them normie, chad?
>>54292373
>including the messenger side app facebook is over five times larger than a web browser
You cant make this shit up. Are they serving 4k ads?
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.indywidualni.fblite
>>54297360
Its stupid to say it suits everyone in a thread devoted to shitting on it shill
A full body jpeg of your mom
>>54288037
>>54292373
lol that font wtf
>>54287149
its written in swift so most of the size comes from all the emojis and pictures in the code
>>54288037
>I browse /g/ and have no friends, therefore I talk to myself
>>54289305
>>54292373
Just use Swipe, Toffeed or Folio
Faster, lighter, chat support, notifications support... i prefer the 1st one but all of them are good.
>>54287276
>Of you you think runtime for stuff used natively in your OS is smaller, you're in for a huge surprise.
Good thing I don't need to distribute that, though.
>>54287149
See >>54287210, this applies to Slack as well.
This >>54295008.
Same reason Atom sucks.
AND MOST IMPORTANT:
Facebook admitted they can't into software development:
https://www.scribd.com/doc/283787957/iOS-at-Facebook-Simon-Whitaker#scribd
>>54298172
>https://www.scribd.com/doc/283787957/iOS-at-Facebook-Simon-Whitaker#scribd
lol, remember the time they dropped HTML5 support saying it wasnt mature enough, then a random guy made a facebook wrapper in HTML5 with better performance just to prove them wrong?
>>54298172
Mind posting a pdf? Apparently it isn't free
