Airplanes are technology.
But aren't they just a huge waste of resources? How many passenger flights are really NEEDED on Earth every day?
They're fast.
There's value in speed and that's what aeroplanes provide.
>>54286239
What's the point of hundreds of flights of tourists burning kerozine just to go to the other side of the globe for a week? Isn't that kind of absurd?
>>54286283
How stupid are you?
>>54286283
Fuck off hippie.
>arent they a waste of resources
They are waste of my resources why do you care fuck off
>>54286289
How unfriendly can you get? Thank you for your contribution. whodathout
>>54286305
Being rational makes me a hippie. Nice.
>>54286309
No, they are a waste of global resources. Small organizations cannot afford them. You are only spending money which is a socially constructed quantization of worth.
>>54286327
And everybody has right to deny my social quantization of worth. Yet they dont so fuck off if you want to change the world start with yourself.
>>54286229
None. Ze people should not move from zheir vorkplace.
Brovsing /g/ is a vaste ov resources as vell. It has been deemed not necessary for propagating ze glory of Arstotzka. Your post has been noted and vill be reported to the authorities.
>>54286327
Where do you live because you are sounding fucking stupid.
>>54286229
Yes they are a terrible waste of resources and completely unsustainable but so is most other modern technology. Just don't think about it.
I'll worry about the planet when I'm dead.
>>54286388
jorji pls go
>>54286392
I live in Brooklyn.
I guess the simplest answer is because they are profitable.
>>54286283
These tourists spend lots of money in the places they visit.
>>54286447
Oh. So you are a hipster faggot hippie retard. Good to have it confirmed.
>>54286327
> You are only spending money which is a socially constructed quantization of worth.
Are you implying there exists a quantization of worth that is not socially constructed?
>>54286229
All resources are currently allocated according to their worth, as dictated by the economy, which changes according to the needs of consumers. Technically the best use of resources (arguably) would be to invest strongly in scientific research, as that will (as we have seen) improve life for all on earth at an exponential rate. But people don't tend to think too far ahead, and so technology that improves your life -right now- will always be more heavily valued.
They will be once transoceanic and transcontinental hyperloops are feasible.
>>54286283
sure, if you never want to eat fresh fruit again.
>>54286519
Energetic values are a good base, but you could argue that humans, for example, are worth more because they use energy extremely efficiently and are often more useful than the equivalent amount of energy that would come from ~90kg of carbon.
>>54286540
Pretty much this. In the end airlines are run by private corporations, and the aim of any company is profit, and if it means wasting resources to traffic your fat ass around the globe to gawk at stuff, they'll do it. Besides, airplanes are extremely efficient compared to both the monetary and resource spending that goes into military technology by a few orders of magnitude, so I think your priorities are somewhat misplaced.
>>54286561
How could we use that worth, if we were not to use money?
>>54286461
Wow, paying a premium for food, shelter and souvenirs. You could've just stayed at home and watched some TV. If you really want to honor that country go live there BY GOING THERE WITH YOUR OWN TWO FEET and not with the disrespecting crutch and a form of charity you call tourism.
>>54286473
>>54286519
>hipster
>implying
very old memes that don't check out, friendos
>>54286540
Improving your life by travel. That sure is mentally refreshing isn't it?
Oh, only if you had a mind to ~mentally refresh~ you would notice you are wasting time and money on things that won't help you at all.
>>54286548
You don't need 300 people to represent you in the country you import your fruit from.
Plus, the same logic can be applied to passenger trains. The passengers weigh way less that the whole wagon so it is not efficient at all.
I know it's hard for you "I never paid attention in physics class" consumerist betas to understand, but please try.
>>54286540
>the economy
you mean the jews
>>54286613
Get out you fucking spagbol
>>54286613
jesus christ, you really are completely oblivious to how the real world functions aren't you?
why dont you go back to your shitty little co-op or your artisanal beard wax store or whatever the fuck you do.
>>54286613
>Wow, paying a premium for food, shelter and souvenirs. You could've just stayed at home and watched some TV. If you really want to honor that country go live there BY GOING THERE WITH YOUR OWN TWO FEET and not with the disrespecting crutch and a form of charity you call tourism
abloo bloo bloo those grapes sure are sour.
stop being a commie teenager, faggot
>>54286613
>>the economy
>you mean the jews
If by "jews" you mean "people spending money in a way that they believe will bring them the most profit" then yes, jews. By that definition truly, most of the rich are jews, and so are most business owners.
>>54286602
Well, see, that measure is only worth to those trading energy, ie the oil companies. When it comes to what humans buy, it's often for reasons other than raw energy. Humans enjoy consumable energy, ie food, as well as many other things that may not even have to do with survival, just pure entertainment. Which is, of course, its own form of value formed based on human opinion, which was the whole thing we were trying to avoid.
In the end it will come down to -necessary- resource; resources will become ultra valuable due to them being needed for survival; ie, water and food. Energy is actually everywhere desu, and all you need to know is how to convert it into another form, and already people will immediately find that useful.
>>54286613
>Mentally refreshing yourself is not useful.
Well fuck, I better stop enjoying life then. Time to dedicate myself to 100% efficiency by only consuming -just- enough food and water to survive. Don't want to be a burden on anyone, right?
>>54286547
This
>>54286723
>In the end it will come down to -necessary- resource; resources will become ultra valuable due to them being needed for survival; ie, water and food.
Ah, but here is the problem: if the resources most necessary for survival are expensive (as in high value, regardless of how is it measured) then we have a social problem with the poor being unable to obtain them. So to make a thriving society we need the things we need the most (water, food) to be as cheap as possible so that a large part of society can obtain them. This means that it's the things that are totally unnecessary for survival (entertainment for example) must be valued more than those vital for our survival.
>>54286613
you are quite dumb you know that?
>>54286540
Wrong. Technology that ends lives will always by more heavily valued because my socially constructed worth and investments of that worth are at risk if those people remain alive. Planes exist because they help movie armies to those people I want to kill very quickly.
>>54286788
Well yes, and that's where the argument for the resource based society comes in: that society should have the responsibility of providing a minimum standard of living to all people. This was once considered Communism, however, I think in the impending future where automation is even more widely spread, we will see huge advancements in the average person's quality of life, as well as ease of access to advanced technology. And personally, I think it will get to a stage where there will be so much wealth of resource that the necessity to provide that minimum standard of living for all will be critical, lest we end up with an even worse balance of power and resources then we have now.
>>54286887
Only in a world where our resources are split, rather than enjoyed and shared by all. Hippie shit I know, but it really is the best alternative to war, which I hope people in power realize.
>what is commerce
>what is globalisation
>what is socialisation of nations to avoid war
>>54286229
>Mechanical engineer here.
Aircraft related technologies, specially in the area of materials, sensors and signals may be later applied to mass consumer shit.
>>54286229
Go outside your basement and travel a bit you autist. It's not like flights are flying empty everyday. There are 20+ flights daily between NYC and London each with 150 to 300 passengers and they all fly mostly full. You'll be surprised at how much people need to travel (and how many people there are).
I take a few planes a month for work. By doing so I generate millions in business.
Neck yourself hippie.
>>54286388
Actually this is how to keep populations healthy and maintain family values - moving people around is what communism wants - it's what school of Frankfurt planned.
>>54286229
http://totally-drive-certified.blogspot.ca/2016/02/what-if-each-of-us-gave-up-few-flights.html
