>Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
>LONG TERM SUPPORT
>buggy and unstable piece of shit just like the last LTS
Holy shit. They are just as bad as Microsoft. Why are LTS operating systems never stable? They had one job. One job not to fuck it up. Mark Shuttleworth is the cancer of Linux.
You know the really stable version will be 16.04.1? That's the version servers get updates for.
Too much focus on UX, no focus on technology
There's always redhat, which puts literal chimpanzees in charge of UX (gnome) and autists that main windows or OS X in charge of technology (lennart and friends, freedesktop/xdg)
>>54285628
And you're the cancer of /g/
you want stable, use red hat
>>54285694
gentoo
What's not stable about it? I've been using 16.04 for a while now and having no issues whatsoever.
>>54285883
It's sloppily developed.
https://youtu.be/c5Li052ZBN8
>>54285883
Not him, but I get sudden freezes on live, and the bundled Ubuntu Center bugs when trying to open certain .deb packages.
>>54285905
>inconsistent theming
>buggy
>THAT SCREEN TEARING
>>54285676
>I think you're missing all the shit that went into 16.04...
- They had to move, in a single release, from their own init replacement upstart to full systemd.
- they had to make Mir compatible with systemd
- they included full support for ZFS
- they included their complete new container format
- new types of packages that allow for installation in said containers
There was almost no changes to UX at all, some new icons - but designers aren't exactly programmers - so it's not like they're choose one or the other...
Most everything in this LTS was under the hood changes.
>>54285935
sounds like your PC is the culprit.
Since you're almost always crying about how a linux distro froze on you.
>implying I didn't already ID you m8.
Works on my machine.
Don't use unity.
>>54286003
W-what?
It's a shitty Pentium build, but still
>>54285628
>not using yakkety
>>54285628
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>54285628
Long term support doesn't necessarily mean stable in the first few months.
The maintainers are working like crazy to iron out all the problems that people are finding after release so that they can push out updates and a new 16.04.1 image later this year.
>not using superior xubuntu
>>54286296
>cyka
Can't even be bothered to look this up but is Ubuntu still using X or is it mir/wayland/whatever now?
>>54286296
Isn't XFCE deprecated?
>>54286313
There's a GRUB option for Mir, you can choose Wayland with some DEs (e.g. GNOME), otherwise just X.
>>54286313
They haven't even managed to get Unity 8 released yet so I doubt it.
>>54285628
my laptop has been running it quite well for 4 days.
>even xserver doesnt crash
>>54286296
>top taskbar
I dont live in australia.
>>54285628
>Using Ubuntu
>Not using Ubuntu MATE
I had the same experience with 16.04.
Slow, buggy, uncostomisable.
I can't even open a tab in terminal or change the purple background colour!
Installed Ubuntu MATE, it's fast, stable, it has more features than Unity or Gnome 3 and it just works!
It's like Linux before the cool and hip kids took over.
>>54285628
>They are just as bad as Microsoft.
worse familia, much worse
>>54286296
>being a banitsa-european
кaк e бpaт
>>54286296
>using anything other than the numix theme
hooo boy
>>54286545
Ubuntu mate is fantastic. Not only has it all those old good gnome applications like gedit (pluma) but it is fast. Mate is progressing quite nicely with 1.10 and 1.12 fixing a lot of bugs, papercuts and legacy shit. It really feels like pre unity ubuntu now and it is glorious. Wimpress is doing wonderful job with default configuration including things like synapse.
>>54286453
Pretty much you can say it is relative to other popular desktop environments it has the slowest and shittiest development right now.
When they finally decide to update they do a shitty job.
Either wait for 16.04.1 or wait for Mint release.
>>54286593
Mint Cinnamon or Mint MATE?
>>54286610
MATE
>>54285628
simple as is:
debian is released When it's Done (TM).
Canonical clings on his 04, 10, 04, 10, 04LTS, 10... release circle, and basically releases Debian experimental/unstable as a "stable, long term support" release.
>>54286579
MATE is awesome!
It's amazing what a small team can do when they are not blindly following the latest trends
The only thing I miss is an instant search and open files and applications thingy like proprietary OS's have and then it will be perfect
And I would also like to have resizeable windows when you snap them to the edge of the screen, this must a bug
Even without that it shits all over Gnome 3 and Unity. What were they thinking?
>>54286650
>The only thing I miss is an instant search and open files and applications thingy
http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/syanpse-is-here-new-semantic-launcher.html
>>54286667
Thank You
>>54285905
All he complains about is Unity. Are you so inbred that you can't install your own DE and tweak the OS to your need?
>>54286302
>cyka
твoя мaть
>>54286568
xax тъкмo щях дa хaпвaм бaницa
>>54286453
no anon, they do work on it and update parts of it from time to time. it might just not be that obvious on ubuntu
you could probably say they don't do that rapid development and change like other DEs but for some people that's a good thing
and it is a solid and fully usable de
>>54286572
>numix
hooo boy
>Install loonix
>Tearing with chromium
>Tearing with compton with vsync enabled in every single fucking mode
>Most DEs are pretty laggy
Welp I guess I'll try catalyst drivers
>Fix at least the annoying ass tearing issue
>Ubuntu 16.04 comes out
>Hey guys guess what your fglrx shit, that's gone for good
Ahhhhh. Fuck this.
>>54285905
>no unity 8
you can't have stable and bleeding edge features at the same time dumbfuck
>indexing
steam was never in the software center to begin with so the problem is with steam and it's shitty installer
>bad theming
and yet ubuntu still has the most consistent design than any other distro. install os x if you are that autistic about it
>>54285937
>buggy
he didn't show any bugs
>tearing
install video drivers dumbfuck
They should update the looks. It's been the same for 10 years.
Looks really outdated.
Blame systemd.
>>54286825
I have seen a pretty bad tearing once or twice with chromium and nothing I did in settings anywhere made any difference
I deleted my ~/.config/chromium/ dir and maybe the ~/.cache/chromium/ too and it was back to normal with the free radeon driver
this was with one of the reacent ver. 48 or 49 maybe
>>54286296
>Not using superior Manjaro openrc.
>>54286922
>Manjaro
>superior
>>54285628
Ubuntu 16.04 is solid piece of trash, still running on 14.04 cuz 16.04 don't support my machine
>>54286922
>being retarded enough to use manjaro
>>54286453
XFCE was replaced by Cinnamon.
>>54286922
sup kid
I've only run into two problems.
1) The ttf-mscorefonts-installer package seems to be broken as fuck on 16.04 for some reason. Permission errors up the ass.
2) Numix icon pack doesn't work. Fucking. Numix. Doesn't Work. Why even live?
>>54290009
GNOME is replaced by Cinnamon
>>54290199
RIGHT... Right...
Yeah, MATE replaced xfce. Forgot.
Anyone using ZFS on 16.04?
>2016
>still have to log out and then in to get unity to index new programs
>>54286296
This release of Xubuntu is actually terribly fucking buggy, I installed it so far on 2 laptops and both suffer from the same bug where mouse cursor disappears after suspend. Fucking annoying as shit, and those laptops are fucking business tier elitebook and chinkpad, which are usually top fucking tier for lunix. I don't know what devs are doing because this time around LTS is really fucking shit. Fresh install btw.
>>54285628
Wait... did you actually install on release day?
On your working machine?
You're an absolute retard, only Pajeets and developers install first day releases.
Wait for 16.04.1 when the kinks are sorted.
>>54285991
uh systemd was used for almost a year now by ubuntu as default, since 15.04 from what i remember
>>54285628
everyone knows Ubuntu LTS is only ready after the .1
>>54285694
RH literally rushed docker development so that they could ship a "1.0 release", doesnt seem much better than Ubuntu
>>54285628
>falling for the debian unstable
KWK
>>54286296
Enjoy your screen tearing.
>>54288031
kek btfo
>>54286825
>Install loonix
>Tearing with chromium
>Tearing with compton with vsync enabled in every single fucking mode
>Most DEs are pretty laggy
Fucking this! I had the same problems, even with firefox. I uninstalled this shit and returned to Windows.
Ubuntu Mate seems to work fine for me, whats wrong with Ubuntu Unity?
>>54292414
nvidia?
>>54292329
C O M P T O N
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>had a shitton of tearing with Nvidia
>didn't care
>had even more tearing with AMD fglrx
>didn't care too much
>tried out radeonsi
>tearing completely gone on all displays except the rotated one, which is now fixed
Stop using proprietary drivers
>>54292720
>muh gayms
>>54285831
gentoo is actually a piece of shit.
why would you ever choose gentoo over freebsd?
>>54292739
even for games, radeonsi is well enough for Feral to recommend it over fglrx.
>>54286828
>steam was never in the software center to begin with so the problem is with steam and it's shitty installer
Why does it appear on the repositories then?
>>54285628
>mfw debian unstable has fewer problems than ubuntu LTS
literally no excuse
>>54292754
I'm trying out FreeBSD and so far I like it, a lot.
I don't like Arch because of pacman and Gentoo seems to be a pain to install, I haven't tried yet.
Why people are recommending Gentoo or Arch?
>>54286828
Damage control
>>54292657
Yep!
>>54292695
Still same shit.
>>54285676
>focus on UX
16.04 is littered with weird inconsistencies like this. And both the dash and global menu, two of Unity's big UX draws, are broken with no fix in sight.
>>54286579
>>54286545
I like what Unity is supposed to do, its just the execution that's lacking. It was fine, albeit slow in 12.04. Now it can't go an hour without breaking somehow
>>54285628
sick of these lying threads
LTSs are never buggy
>>54293594
>Now it can't go an hour without breaking somehow
and god bless you if you use multiple monitors. You are in for a world of wonderful unity desktop corruption, unresponsive input, broken compositing, tearing and slow mode switches.
>>54285935
i've never seen ubuntu freeze ever
a user for years here
this thread is fabricated
>>54285628
they're trying to say it has all the windows deficiencies - these threads are unfair / depressing lies
>>54293616
I had dual monitors on 12.04 and 14.04 and it wasn't -too- bad. Most of the issues were related to some transparency settings I tweaked if I remember correctly.
I can't imagine trying it on 16.04 though. I can barely get one monitor to work
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1532226
How does something this huge make it to release? Its been documented since January ffs
>>54285628
The version doesnt get any more prep work then other releases I think. It just goes longer before they stop updating it.
>>54293620
>>54293602
>>54285681
You guys remind me of people who claim Windows 10 isn't spying on you or that OS X's file system isn't trash. Fanboyism at its finest.
>>54292414
>filename
well no shit
kill yourself
>>54293786
>muh fuliname
I don't give a fuck for this, retard.
>>54293808
Filename*
>>54293702
Or Thinkpad users claiming their temps are any better than a Macbook Pro or that they get more than 3 hours of battery life without a second laptop sized battery attached to the bottom
Focus on UX my ass
There's no defending this shit
What's up with these Bootstrap tier menus in the file manager?
>>54293838
kek blame jewgle, desktop hangouts is awful everywhere
>>54293808
>missing the point this hard
>being a newshit straight from facebook
>can't even get shit to work properly
>calling anyone a retard
do yourself a favor and hit the rope
>>54293870
Its the other window that's the problem. The Hangouts window is minimized so it makes sense that that's all you'll see
Microsoft very quietly bought majority of Canonical Ltd's shares which gave them control over the company.
Any news about snap packages?
>>54293887
>muh he uses facebook
>muh i'm superior because i not use shitbook
Retard and autist confirmed.
Now fuck off and only come back when you turn 18.
>>54293997
>muh I use facebook
>muh I'm superior because i use shitbook
normalfag and facebook user confirmed
Now fuck off back to /b/ and only come back when you learn to use a computer.
That's why you use Debian
>>54294134
Sounds like someone's never tried to set up a seedbox on Debian 6
>>54293901
link?
