Thoughts?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/04/child-porn-suspect-jailed-for-7-months-for-refusing-to-decrypt-hard-drives/
hi op
>>54274016
Hi party van, what kinda party we having?
7 months is better than a child porn charge
>>54273986
nigga i wanted to encrypt my harddrives but im afraid now
>>54274269
He wasn't sentenced to 7 months. They're holding him indefinitely, it's been 7 months so far.
>>54273986
think it's great. hopefully they'll keep him there forever.
that is LITERALLY a case of nothing to hide
ameriturd "freedoms" ©®
despite this kind of shit, a bunch of Americans on this board will gloat about how they're the most "free" ©® country in the world
>>54273986
It's one of those rock-and-a-hard-place scenario where siding either for or against him is either right or wrong
>On one hand, fifth amendment
>On the other, pedophile
>On the other, holding him without due process
>On the other, they have probable cause
>>54274608
Fount the RT shill.
>>54274624
There's nothing wrong with having images on your computer
>>54274293
Google "chilling effect" and then don't let it happen to you. You shouldn't be afraid to use encryption.
>>54274624
>refusal to decrypt is probable cause
>refusing to incriminate oneself is probable cause for considering criminal charges
Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that he is a pedo, and his HDD contains pizza. You know what he's guilty of? Storing illegal images. What's he not done? He hasn't locked anyone in his basement for 7 months.
What's been done to him is already far more heinous than anything he's even suspected of.
>>54274624
"probable cause" for what? To compel him to relinquish his 5th amendment right not to self incriminate? It doesn't work that way. None of this works that way.
>>54274591
Actually the police were monitoring freenet and obtained a warrant to arrest him on suspicion of harboring cp. In addition his sister claims he has cp on his computer.
However they have legally detained him for too long. They were only supposed to detain him for a short period of time until they could prove him guilty with evidence or find out they have jack shit on him and let him go. Detaining a citizen of the US for a long tine without evidence to their accused crime is a violation of the US constitution.
Once he gets out he can sue the city for illegally detaining him.
>>54274684
found the pedophile
>>54274642
Which is weird upon itself, because they usually only pursue people who proactively seek encounters or those who produce and distribute the content.
Beyond that, anyone beyond that and they're simply making them an example--may have just been the luck of the draw with him.
>>54274684
Maybe he distributed the content?
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
When injustice becomes law resistance becomes duty.
>>54274628
>implying facts = shilling
have a good day, Mr. NSA, tell your countrymen to enjoy that Ameriturd Freedom ©®
>>54274703
His sister snitched him out it seems.
>>54274687
You just don't pull a random person off the street and suspect them of child pornography.
>>54274041
a no-pants party!
>>54273986
>land of the free
>cant even secure his own property
>>54273986
Again? Same shit 8x within 24 hrs.
>care i no longer have
>>54274684
>Storing illegal images.
yeah only those images are one of the most disgusting things to store in existence
there are few worse crimes than pedophiles
fuck this subhuman scum, they have no rights
>>54274752
Yeah you do if you know they have dirt on you.
Guessing that's common in usa.
>>54274796
t. trump supporter
>>54274767
His hard drives probably contain illegal sequences of 1s and 0s though
Like some anon mentioned a few threads ago this is like a fucking witch hunt. They are punishing a man with unjust detainment time because someone cried wolf.
Whatever the fuck he has in that drive is his business and the government cannot force him to self-encriminate himself by giving away the encryption key (which he might not even remember).
This guy is about to go habeas corpus on the detention center holding him and sue the fuck out of the city.
>>54274684
How you know he hasn't locked up some child up for seven months,and raping him/her? You don't.
/g/ is degenerate magnet
>>54273986
free rent
free food
on site gym
and in a few months he walks away a millionaire from settlement with us gov
I wish it happened to me desu
>>54274703
Usually they have a reason for it, like, some idiot brings loli manga from Japan at the airport like a fool. But as far as I know noone has been charged for Loli unless they tried to import it. Canada takes it seriously and will check if you are a neckbeard coming from japan.
>>54274937
but you would be at least 7 months behind on schoolwork.
>>54274937
I can arrange the imprisonment part, you'll have to work on the mirrion dorrar payout
>>54274914
as far as we know, he is not a pedo
who knows maybe his sister is one and the evidence to prove it is on that hard drive and he's doing this from a broken sense of loyalty to his only living relative
>>54273986
>but you're allowed to carry guns around like it's nothing
KEK, what a backward ass country
I know almost nothing about US law or the constitution, but I thought that the fifth amendment protected against needing to give them your key, because it could be self-incriminating if you did. Isn't there precedent for this?
What's different in this case?
I thought the US wasn't like the UK, in which if you don't hand over your key, you will be imprisoned for a maximum of four years (iirc).
>>54275051
How is that image at all relevant?
>>54274957
Nigga fuck school. With just 1 million dollars you will never have to work in your life ever again. You can buy a nice 400k house + 2x50k cars and have ~$1,400 left to blow every months for 30 years straight. Maybe $400 will go toward bills/gas at worst every month, that will still leave you with ~$1,000 to blow every fucking month. If you're 50 years old like the old police officer you'll most likely be dead before you run out of money.
>>54274624
>On one hand, fifth amendment
Da fuq if wrong with you idiots? The fifth amendment only protects someone from being compelled to testify against themselves in court. This guy is not testifying, he is withholding evidence.
>>54275040
Maybe magical fairy's give blow jobs to special sys admins on friday nights
>>54275091
To dumb to see the irony of your statement
>murrica
>>54275074
It's not, it's just some crap I had saved on my hard drive. I felt like finding a relevant image but I couldn't, so I just settled for that.
Here's another, anon.
>>54275135
post the rest of this series
>>54275091
He isn't withholding any evidence. Nobody can prove he has cheese pizza on his hard drive.
Literally the ONLY reason the courts are even attempting this is because they know that when it's a question of pedophiles, the public tends to behave extremely irrationally. This is the ONLY possible case where they have the power to try and pull this shit, if the person were accused of any other crime this wouldn't be tolerated for even a second.
The ironic part is that we give them that power when we subscribe to the view that pedos are evil irredeemable monsters that deserve no sympathy and no mental health resources allocated to them.
Fear and hatred are tools for the government to manipulate you into handing over more and more of your freedom.
>>54275113
There is no irony. This has been gone over and over again for 250 years. If he is not allowing access to the encrypted files for privacy concerns then that is a fourth amendment issue.
The fifth only allows accused persons in court the right not not bear witness against themselves. AKA not taking the stand.
>>54275171
>. Nobody can prove he has cheese pizza on his hard drive.
Ah that is part of the problem. There is reasonable suspicion from other evidence(ip address) that it may contain evidence. Same way courts get banks to open safe deposit boxes for inspecton in tax & divorce cases
>>54275171
>Nobody can prove he has cheese pizza on his hard drive
...because he's withholding his encryption key
>>54275233
prove that he still remembers it
>>54275174
You started out ok, then turned into a pedo sympathizer.
You neras are fucked! Wundie nera wadgilahs.
>>54274624
>It's one of those rock-and-a-hard-place scenario where siding either for or against him is either right or wrong
Joke's on you, you're only stuck between a rock and a hard place if you think pedophilia is wrong. :^)
>>54275271
Another pedo ^^^
Snuff yourself
>>54274796
Edgelord. Everyone always has their rights no matter what, or else they'd not be rights, would they? Inalienable rights are redundant.
>>54274914
How do I know you haven't?
>>54275334
Aww you so tuff bro
>>54275244
I once encrypted a linux machine with paragraphs long password, and then I left it logged in for weeks... then I rebooted it. I couldn't remember it for the life of me. I can't imagine if cops came to my house and took it, and I couldn't remember the key even though there was nothing on it. That would suck. In that situation no encryption would be better. But they'd probably charge me with lewd chinese cartoons just to be dicks anyway.
>>54275043
>because you don't have one right you shouldn't get another one either
Fuck off, eurocuck.
>>54275355
Premium counter argument, facebook.
We Wongis are ere! We watch you mongrel people prey on children. Ya fucking gutless dogs! Mumu (devil) in ya souls unah! Ya fucked.
You'll die in ya path's of misery and it'll be soon.
>>54275261
My only point was that the widespread view that pedophiles are non-human is what gives courts the power to pull this kind of shit.
>>54273986
Suspect..
For all we know this guy could have probably seen some sensitive info, been a whistleblower or something. And the mainstream media wants to flag him as a pedo because of "MUH ENCRYPTION".
I fucking despise pedos, but encryption is the only way to maintain privacy and provides protection for journalists and others
If this guy was indeed a pedo, then there will be enough proof by simply correlating times, monitoring network traffic, and obtaining a supoena on the pedo site (thus getting the master key and decrypting all the traffic).
One is not guilty until proven in court.
>>54275506
>is what gives courts the power to pull this kind of shit.
Courts have been doing this for decades on cases not related to pedophilia.
>>54273986
There was a court order and a warrant.
So I agree with this.
>>54275095
Can confirm, only if you're good though
>>54275556
Fuck off, tripfag.
>>54274796
you dont have a very good imagination.
>a forensic examiner who testified that it was his "best guess" that child pornography was on the drives
>investigators had decrypted a Mac Pro using a recovery key discovered on the iPhone 5S the authorities seized from his client's residence. He said no child pornography was found.
>The authorities want the suspect to decrypt two external drives discovered in the search.
they found nothing on his computer. a "expert" "guesses" there is porn on the external hard drives. they want him to hand over the pass code to "check" the external hard drives.
hes never been charged. so far they have nothing to charge him against. they have to let him go. the law is being abused. right now under that 1789 "law" they can virtually keep any detained indefinitely for almost any reason.
Come out ere unah! Your computer won't save your mumu soul!
>>54273986
Id like to see the US see encryption through the lense of 2nd and 5th amendments.
Fuck pedos but they are usually used by the authorities as a way to expand their authority. Then when they get law and precedent off of them they use it to abuse the rights of normal citizens.
>>54274608
Notice how he can fight dumb ass. Way better then what he would get in the third world shit hole you live it.
>>54274624
Whatever they have off freenet and his sister wasnt enough to charge him or they would already do so.
Probable cause ran out I say its been 7 months and they dont have a way into those drives. And even if a pedo gets defended no american should be forced to testify against themselves.
>>54273986
> One was the suspect's sister who claimed she looked at child pornography with her brother at his house
> Thoughts?
Never trust those whores.
Warra Wirrin mob that's you mumu neras
>>54275221
the only actually real "suspicion" they have is his sister saying she looked at the porn along with him at his house.
they don't actually have any ip addresses.
all they did was
>monitoring the online network Freenet
so they found a man that they assumed was him
they have zero shred of proof. even his computer that they were able to decrypt by using his password they found on his iphone 5s showed not a single ounce of proof.
i hate pedo's too but they have nothing. keeping him locked up indefinitely is inherently wrong when they have nothing to charge him against. are we really going to allow indefinite lockup based on nothing?
there investigation can be summed with this:
>a forensic examiner who testified that it was his "best guess" that child pornography was on the drives
>>54275221
Then charge him with obstruction of justice or something and imprison him for that. Doesn't matter what he did or didn't do, keeping him imprisoned for this long without even charging him with anything is a fucking disgrace.
>not having a dead-man's switch
Look! Nothing here! Now give 7 months of my life back.
>>54275221
you realize computers dont actually provide real evidence though
>text files are evidence
kek
how long has this micky-mouse shit been going on in american courts?
>>54275051
>What's different in this case?
One of the biggest issues with the US legal system is that the authorities know they can get away with breaking the law, since it will take forever to prove they broke the law in court. They're holding this guy illegally because they hope he'll spill the beans before his lawyer manages to get him released.
>>54275051
The difference is some judges have order people to hand over security keys. Basically all this computer shit is new enough that it will be in flux until the supreme court ends up ruling on it.
>>54275853
to clarify
IP logs are basically text files
anyone can manipulate them
a text file is not solid evidence
>>54275543
Indefinite imprisonment for someone not charged with a crime? I don't think so.
>>54275075
Property taxes.
>>54274546
>They're holding him indefinitely
Murica number one land of the freedums!!!!1
Charge the lot of ya mob with crimes against children.
You get speared to death out ere tryin to pull that shit. You white munjongs think you're advanced HA!
>>54274608
I love how you continue to conveniently forget that EU has the same attitude towards encryption too, Eurocuck.
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-07/15/cameron-ban-encryption-u-turn
>>54275903
He'll get released and it will set a legal precedent. However it will still be illegal to withhold your encryption keys in multiple European countries.
>>54275928
>Cameron
>EU
kek
>>54275874
This. The ideas of Encryption hasn't been properly challenged in the Supreme Court yet, so it's still a legal 'grey area' as to whether or not the Fifth Amendment applies to digital property.
>>54275886
>IP logs are basically text files
Sure, but so are receipts.
>anyone can manipulate them
>anyone
Not really.
>>54275506
Wanting to fuck something that has not matured is fucked up
>>54275928
>UK
>EU
The UK ain't our kind, like Mississippi ain't yours. Do you understand?
>>54275929
It is also illegal to keep someone indefinitely imprisoned when they haven't even been sentected yet.
>>54275971
>Sure, but so are receipts.
A receipt can't be opened up in a text editor and modified.
>>54275971
paper receipts are typically issued by a machine which actually prints or burns ink onto a physical piece of paper
you can examine this paper and scientifically determine which exact machine issued this receipt
a fucking text file containing an IP is totally different and morphs from machine to machiene accross different states and mediums and a whole bunch of shit
it proves nothing
there is so much shit which has been used as invalid evidence for so long, this in itself is actually a crime.
who will punish the supreme court and FBI though?
>a forensic examiner who testified that it was his "best guess" that child pornography was on the drives
LOL really?
>>54276050
>>54276052
>A receipt can't be opened up in a text editor and modified.
A receipt can't be forged? What you're describing is forging a document.
>a fucking text file containing an IP is totally different and morphs from machine to machiene accross different states and mediums and a whole bunch of shit
That is exactly why a log file from pastebin isn't admissible. They take the drives as-is.
>there is so much shit which has been used as invalid evidence for so long, this in itself is actually a crime
And It should be.
>>54275992
>they're not part of the EU cuz I dont like em XDDDDDDD
>France
http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/4/11160044/france-apple-encryption-terrorism-law
>>54276052
really, how long has this shit been going on within these mickey-mouse courts?
people being sentenced to years, sometimes life in prison based off a fucking text file.
really?
someone needs to be punished for this
>>54276121
they too are not apart of the EU like florida
Encryption is considered (and up until recently officially classified as) munitions, or arms.
The second amendment guarantees your right to bear arms.
Is it any wonder that the same legislators who wish to abolish the second amendment also wish to illegalize encryption?
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=EA927EA1-E098-4E62-8E61-DF55CBAC1649
The government knows what's best, citizen.
>>54276115
bro you don't even know what you're arguing about anymore
you are literally just posting anything you possibly can because you are panicking.
your true stupidity is really showing now
>>54276121
Not that you'd know anything about it, but the UK is going full 1984.
Had you read the article, France isn't calling for backdoors like the US, you dumb fuck.
>>54276178
>le meme response
Whatever you say, kid.
>>54276155
>Encryption is considered (and up until recently officially classified as) munitions, or arms.
>[citation needed]
>>54276115
this actually happened to my parents and grandfather (mothers side).
they were in court against my uncle (mothers side) who was trying to claim a house that was apart of the families his and not owned by my grandfather. the reason why he had a case was because he had the same exact name as my grandfather and a similar signature.
he forged about 30 receipts claiming they were receipts of work he did to the house. it took seven months and two experts to prove they were fake.
>>54276247
>blaming others for meme response
>not realizing that every argument you have presented has been one giant ruse
>unironically trying to argue about paper receipt vs. text file
>really being genuine about this, not even trolling
im not even giving you the benefit of the doubt at this moment
>>54276223
France isn't calling for backdoors now because they've been doing it for decades.
FUCK BALLS I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS MADE BIG NEWS.
Backstory I will keep it tldr: The guy is an ex-cop. Saw some shit (will not go into detail) higher up people fucked him, framed his ass, just getting tossed around in the loop of jail as of now.
Leave while you can, folks.
>>54276397
I'm doing it unironically to emphasize the point that you people seem to think that server logs are like anonymous, hand-scribbled notes on a public bulletin board.
The statement
>audit logs are not completely, 100% secure
is not equivalent to
>audit logs might as well not exist
There exists a concept called circumstantial evidence.
>>54276490
there you go again just posting random irrelevant shit
are you ok?
He's probably guilty, so fuck him.
>>54276470
>will not go into detail
But... What details are you talking about?
You believe he's legitimately innocent?
>>54276526
Logic isn't your strong suit, is it? Don't worry, there's a place for you in society, shitposting on 4chan with non-OC and flipping burgers.
>>54276547
100% innocent. Guy is a family man, with grown up kids and kinda of hot cougar wife.
>>54273986
Don't you have something about not being forced to incriminate yourself in the constitution?
>>54275903
In Europe, this would probably happen to him too, over much less deserving circumstances like him watching loli or something like that. When will you europoors learn that you are idiotic degenerates living in barely functioning democarcies?
>>54276601
>barely functional democracies
>can only vote for two candidates
kek
>>54276567
Okay. So, what's your take on why he won't just decrypt his drives? Other than "it's his legal right". Were they planted on him?
>>54276651
Well, it is possible he forgot the key
>>54276601
>barely functioning democracies
Still I'd take this shit any day of the week over the plutocracy you have in the States.
>top 1% owns 34% of all wealth
'mmurika
>>54276672
Has he said anything like that? I don't think they could have been planted—if that's the case then he wouldn't even know the passcode
>>54276651
>what's your take on why he won't just decrypt his drives? Other than "it's his legal right"
That question should be irrelevant. The issue isn't why he's doing it, but whether he has the right to do it.
>>54276651
>>54276672
All of it staged. The gubmernt just fucking with him.
>http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Babies-Found-Dead-in-Philadelphia-Lot-Had-Been-Preserved-Health-Dept-Official-350614941.html
>>54276711
I'm not asking in the legal context, I'm asking because >>54276567 seems to have an inside view
>>54275990
> has not matured
In what sense? Is it alright to fuck somebody 18yo with the mind of a child? Is it alright to fuck a fertile woman with the mind of an adult?
>>54274608
They are the least free country in the world, and they now it but wont say anything, too proud ;)
>>54275074
Exactly. "stealth marketer" paid with jew money.
>>54274950
What? Did not know Canada was that retarded
>>54276892
> least
No, we simply have slipped the fuck down from before and baby boomers allowed the government to use 9/11 as an excuse to create a police state.
There are still a few things that remain. Free speech in the US remains probably the freest while its one of the few first world countries where getting rid of guns isn't as easy as going "its <current year>."
The thing that is bizarre is that there are Americans who are ignorant of how low we have gotten in terms of personal and economic freedom since George W Bush, and how many Europeans notice this but are completely ignorant of how limited their speech has become. Or they have actually bought into the "hate speech =/= free speech" and "we're civilized, why need guns when we have cops? oh shit also need to ban knives now" narrative.
Western world is in trouble and all people are doing is going "lol amerifat" and "lol yuropoor." Meanwhile governments and corporations are just jerking each other off with only some mild resistance like Apple telling the FBI to fuck off.
>>54275135
Oy Vey
Nobody will notice you. Ssshh
>>54274914
>How you know he hasn't
Stop right there, you've just failed logic.
You should also be barred from serving as a juror.
ITT: Something something Americucks.
something something ignorant.
"EU Master race" I guess
fuck off
>>54275523
>>54275523
>subpoena on the pedo site
Do you hear yourself talk?
>>54274694
>>54274608
>>54274591
we literally have the 5th amendment for shit like this, it's innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around
>>54274796
t. Facebook user
>The other was a forensic examiner who testified that it was his "best guess" that child pornography was on the drives
What. You can't guess that sort of thing. Either you know it's on there, or you're talking out your ass.
He will probably be shunned from his community, won't be able to get a job or leave the country.
He's already sentenced to a life in a country wide jail.
>>54274684
You are right.
>>54278795
He can request his case be taken to a higher court and sue the city that imprisoned him illegally. I think he's waiting there in jail to maximise how much he will be able to sue. Smart man.
He will probably no longer be able to get a job but he'll get some good money from his case because muh habeas corpus. Hope he gets at least a million.
>>54276288
thats a really cool story
but what does this have to do with using a txt file as solid evidence in court?
>>54276942
this makes absolutely no sense. What is being marketed here?
>>54275091
EVERY SUSPECTED IS A CRIMINAL WHO IS WITHHOLDING EVIDENCE.
I LOVE YOU AMERICANS
>>54276996
Nah they were just taking advantage of the "Internet is the wild west" bullshit. There were no regulations, so businesses and governments got in on the whole do whatever they want.
Now they have 9/11 and terrorism bogeyman to push all of the laws through they want. They're passing laws to gain as much power as they possibly can before there is blowback. It's too late now, the West is fucked.
I just don't understand why people are welcoming it through bullshit non-issues like feelings. Obviously this guy is likely a piece of shit but certainly they can't honestly think guy has to unencrypt his own stuff can they?
This is 100% the next thing they're going to ban btw. They're going to wage a war against encryption and of course they will win.
>>54273986
>Hey guys terrorism is the worst, isn't it? We just want Apple to get rid of encryption because terrorists are bad.
No, fuck off alphabet agencies.
>Hey guys, paedophilia is the worst, isn't it? We just want to get rid of encryption because paedophiles are bad.
This is pretty transparent. I'm normally not a conspiracy nut but seriously, this sure is convenient.
>>54275829
>>54273986
why aren't they charging the sister for child pornography if she openly admitted to looking at it with him?
>>54279869
Because she has a vagina.
>>54279880
add gender discrimination to the list of things he can sue for when this blows over
the amount of responses here that make light of the crimes almost certainly committed are either an indication most of you are only children or don't have children of your own or are simply lacking basic empathy.
the content is produced because there is demand. If there wasn't demand, no content would be produced. In the same way i partly blame the production of bad movies on the people who inevitably will go to see them, so do i place part of the blame on the consumers of this disgusting form of entertainment.
it sickens me that so many of you make light of this but whatever. it's 4chan, what more can i expect.
the real issue in the tech sense here is that this is playing right into the people in power. This man has almost certainly (no reason to frame him) done something very illegal and something the public despises. As such, they won't care at all about him other than people who see the bigger issue, which is the precedent this gives for further cases and eventually moving down into other criminal territories. This empowers the people of the mindset 'nothing to hide' and there is very little that can be done to undo the sort of damage this precedent sets.
welp time to go to somewhere with real freedom - oh wait
>>54276271
>i'm retarded and can't search on keywords for commonly known facts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_the_United_States
>>54279902
>implying a male can sue a woman for anything
kek, that's misogyny.
>>54279869
Isn't the crime possession, not viewing?
>>54280131
The crime is being able to save it, whether or not you are intending to do so. If you view it on a computer and that computer has the ability to right click and save as. You are committing a crime.
>>54275091
He isn't withholding evidence you idiot. He's refusing to give the government easy access to his harddrive which they suspect may have evidence on it.
This is just one of those things that creates bad law because everyone wants the pedo to go down so they'll do anything to make it happen. In reality, all he's doing is nothing and that makes it hard for the government which they don't like.
>>54280066
thats not how it works.
>>54275829
If everything you say is true that's complete bullshit. The judge and prosecutor need to do 7 months in jail and then be subject to a civil lawsuit with all assets liened so that should the defendant win he can seize their homes, cars, etc.
I fucking hate pedos but god damn it you have to have some evidence. Abuse by judges and prosecutors is also against the law and can also completely devastate lives.
>inb4 if he has nothing to hide he should just decrypt the drive
There have been cases where prosecutors have pushed for pedo charges because of porn with legal adult actresses who "looked too young." If a prosecutor is after you they will twist anything they can.
>>54280066
>defending basic rights is supporting pedos
>you're a bad person for disagreeing with me
>almost certainly guilty until proven innocent
>prosecutors never make a mistake or frame anyone
Fuck, can you add any more bullshit rhetoric to your post?
>>54275180
Case law clearly supports combinations/keys existing in thought being "testimony"
>>54273986
I am filled with rage of a thousand suns
>>54275334
>it's "edgy" to want pedophiles to be jailed
damn /g/ is completely out of touch with the real world made of real people
>>54281840
>>it's "edgy" to want pedophiles to be jailed
no its "edgy" to be a jack-booted authoritarian shitpile that does not understand that just because a crime may potentially have been commited that due process and other personal rights do not go out the window.
>>54273986
Now I want to encrypt my data. But I'll not do it because I'm too lazy and it is easier to save files in case of a failure happens with the hard drive unencrypted.
>>54273986
>XTS-AES 128-bits
Quantum computing cracks it in seconds.
>>54276601
>In Europe, this would probably happen to him too
In European countries, refusing to turn over encryption keys is anywhere between a misdemeanor and a felony with a punishment of up to 3 years in prison, not a sentence of up to life in prison without a trial.
>>54276996
>I-its the baby boomers, they're the ones responsible
Bullshit, it's the younger generation as well. I've seen a significant increase in statists who think the government knows what's best for people on the internet as time has gone on and I highly doubt it's old people who finally decided to use the internet.
>>54282510
Quantum computing does little against symmetric encryption unless you get fuckloads of plaintext/cyphertext pairs in which case you can weaken it to about half its key length, but good luck convincing the defendant to let you encrypt gigabytes of shit with their key to get those.
>The other was a forensic examiner who testified that it was his "best guess" that child pornography was on the drives
>the crimes almost certainly committed
Is this how law in the US works? Cause I'm pretty sure there also needs to be, like, a trial to prove someone guilty. And evidence.
This isn't about whether downloading pizza is wrong (it is), this is about authorities disregarding basic constitutional rights and using pedos as a smoke screen, knowing that there will be faggots like you who don't give two fucks about a fair trial as long as someone screams "PEDO! HE'S A PEDO!"
>>54274608
Freedom to take other people's freedom.
