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Previously on: >>54256206

Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:

0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux

Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.

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If you don't have an IRC client (which you should), go to https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/flt.

Visit the Friendly GNU/Linux Thread/Website:
http://fglt.nl/

Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
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why do nerds use linux do you enjoy programming everything just to make it functional?
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>>54273918

My computer usage atrophied so much that Linux distributions do pretty much everything I need, but better.
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>>54273956
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>54273918
it's more functional than anything else i have tried OOTB. maybe in a few years i can use a more mature microkernel but right now HURD and the MINIX3 kernel are not even close to finished.
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>>54274081
Hurd isn't a kernel. Hurd's kernel is GNU Mach and it's pretty much finished, but not stable enough for a public release.
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>>54273949

>i don't want to be distracted and can tolerate some ugliness
Adwaita/GNOME Tango icons

>i don't want to be distracted and can tolerate some blue ugliness
Cheser icons

>i'm a well adjusted person
Faenza

>i'm a well adjusted person, but different
elementary-xfce

>i OMG XDXD
Numix stuff

>i see you're using GNOME, but i'm a KDE person myself
Breeze

>i like my icons like my women: flat
Paper icons

>i am manly enough to pull this off
Moka icons

>i hate myself
everything else

>i really, really hate myself
Vivacious icons
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>>54274138
>>54274081
http://www.archhurd.org/
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>>54274169
How will people who insist in calling everything "Just Linux" deal with this?
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Is it possible to do minimal install of KDE with Ubuntu Mini ISO?
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>>54274316

Yes.
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Hey guys, just a quick question:

Is it a good idea to run Debian Testing/Unstable on Desktops/Laptops, or is it only good when using Stable on servers?

I've been using it for about a month now and I've been happy with it - just wondering if I could be using something 'better' for my daily use. I'm coming from Linux Mint, and before that, Ubuntu briefly very long ago.

Are Gentoo/Arch/OpenSUSE/Fedora or other distros better alternatives for home use? Or is Debian just fine in this regard? I've already mostly configured it the way I like it. I have Testing on my desktop and Unstable on my laptop. Was wondering whether I should switch the desktop to unstable as well
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>nautilus can't remember views for directories separately

Wow, that's atrocious. It's on the same level of usefulness as Thunar, but with more dependencies and less features actually.
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>>54274194
They will call it Linux, either unaware of the mistake or making it intentionally to tease the faithful.
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How do I install nscd without internet? I have a flash drive and another working computer
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>>54274483
>using a graphical file manager
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>>54274634

>typing everything out (even with tab completion)
>not just moving around with keyboard keys
>not having useful file previews like image thumbnails
>not having useful context menus (like for creating archives)

>most likely crippling yourself for false elitism - pretentiousness
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how the fuck do i boot back to windows from my linux live usb?
im using windows 8.1 and all the methods ive seen on changing boot options are only accessible through windows
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>>54274824
unplug the stick, retard
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>>54274856
Don't be mean.

>>54274824
You can change the boot device in your BIOS, mango mang. This is outside of Windows or any operating system for that matter
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>>54274824
You should remove Windows instantly; it's malware.
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>>54274901
Don't bully him
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>>54274900
i cannot find a way to access bios outside of windows
how do?

also >>54274856
would this actually work?
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>>54274935
>would this actually work?
yes but you should shut down the running system first
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>>54274935
...you can't access the BIOS in Windows, man.

If you've been in the BIOS, that's outside of Windows.
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>>54274935
>how do?

Press the blue "ThinkVantage" button during boot.


(assuming you're not a retard so you have a Thinkpad)
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>>54274945
as in just power off the computer right
great, that works

>>54274960
not in windows, from windows
as in settings > change pc > advanced boot options or something of that sort
I tried these f8 f9 f10 f1 f2 f1+fn F2+fn but none of them worked

either way if I can just unplug the usb its no longer an issue for me

but that brings me to the next issue, which is when i try to boot from usb, it gives me an error message
forgot the exact wording but basically saying "can't boot from usb"

>>54275006
hp
Didn't choose the laptop though, it was given to me
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>>54274458
I really like debian sid.
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What's the best HEX editor for GNU/Linux?
Or should I just use Vim with xxd?
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I'm installing Xubuntu on a Windows 7 computer, it's asking me if I want to continue in UEFI mode.
Is there any reason I shouldn't? I have no desire to dual boot. I just want to use this computer for getting familiar with Linux.
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>>54274222
>>54274227
>>54274163
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>get sick of windows install gnu/linux
>get sick of gnu/linux install window
>realize I don't play games anymore
>install gnu/linux
>miss games
>install windows
>realize I don't like games that much
>install gnu/linux
>install new distro
>install new distro
>install new idstro
>think that I miss gaming, install windows
>install gnu/linux
How long untill my hard drive dies?
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>>54275218
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>>54275248
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I found what looks to be a modified/fake xbox controller, I want to look at the data from this device so I can see what it is and maybe find drivers for it. Where should I look? /dev? /proc?
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Any suggestions for icon sets? My icons suck shit apparently.
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>>54275219
just dual-boot if you need your games this much. >>54275268
oops, that's off center
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>>54275218

Thanks bro!
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What are the advantages and disadvantages from using zsh shell
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPbAXKMCDkY
in case any of you have half an hour of time to burn, here's something fun.
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>>54275248
>>54275218
Saved, thx bro.

>>54275283
AwOken White is nice. All white icons, good for dark themes.
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>>54275405
if you don't know that yet there is no reason to configure it at all.
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>>54275283

See >>54274148
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>>54275405
None, it's just a hipster shell.
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I want to use Linux but I hate GNU/FSF/Stallman communist ideology.

Is there a good Linux system that doesn't use GNU shit ?

I think Alpine Linux is like that ? Any others?
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Made this a while back in gimp.
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>>54275468
just go use *BSD and piss off.
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>>54275473
Template.
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>>54275490
Good idea. Which do you recommend for desktop use? FreeBSD , DesktopBSD, PC-BSD?
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Can someone explain the advantage of using an export root for NFS as mentioned here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NFS#Server
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>>54275473
I'd save it if the GNU head and "powered by" had the same color. ;_;
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>>54275515
FreeBSD has most support. OpenBSD for cool points.
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>>54275515
dragonflyBSD
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>>54275515
I don't particularly like BSD, but FreeBSD is supposed to be more desktop oriented, there was some friendly BSD thread recently that had some info.
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>>54275491
Another template.

>>54275529
I suck.
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>>54275515
>>54275468

Just by asking those questions you're revealing that you don't know anything about the subject matter. Not knowing anything about it means you most likely don't need it and don't know "how" to use it.
So, why do you even bother? You're also massively wrong with your "communist ideology", but that's not the issue here. Your attitude and behaviour is cringe-worthy. Lucky for you this isn't real life, or else I'd almost die of 2nd hand embarrassment from hearing your questions.
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>>54275624
Blah blah blah.
If GNU was so good, why did HURD get basic sound support in late 2015 ?
And why is OS X so successful and is based on BSD, not on TURD
The fact is the most successful Unix for Desktops is OS X
And that is based on FreeBSD
Eat my cock FSFag
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>>54275700
if BSD is so good, why does the ISS run debian?
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>>54275700
I think, even with those dubs, you are not polite enough for a friendly GNU/Linux thread. Sometimes people make friendly BSD threads as well, and there's nothing stopping you from making one yourself.
By the way, there is a certain irony in that. You can take what we have here, modify it as you please, and share it with others. Sounds familiar?
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I have an issue on Ubuntu with mouse acceleration that I can fix with "xset m 0" but I want this to be system wide not just set by user. What conf file do I need to edit? I would assume xorg.conf but things have changed and putting a file in x.conf.d doesn't take affect in the same way as xset does.

what is the best option to disable mouse acceleration?
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>>54275723

GNU BTFO:

>Apache - The Apache Software Foundation runs most of its public facing infrastructure, including possibly one of the largest SVN repositories in the world with over 1.4 million commits, on FreeBSD.

>apple.com Apple - OS X borrows heavily from FreeBSD for the network stack, virtual file system, and many userland components. Apple iOS also contains elements borrowed from FreeBSD.

>Cisco - IronPort network security and anti-spam appliances run a modified FreeBSD kernel.

>Dell KACE - The KACE system management appliances run FreeBSD because of its reliability, scalability, and the community that supports its continued development.

>McAfee - SecurOS, the basis of McAfee enterprise firewall products including Sidewinder is based on FreeBSD.

>Netflix - The OpenConnect appliance that Netflix uses to stream movies to its customers is based on FreeBSD. Netflix has made extensive contributions to the codebase and works to maintain a zero delta from mainline FreeBSD. Netflix OpenConnect appliances are responsible for delivering more than 32% of all Internet traffic in North America.

>Sony - The PlayStation 4 gaming console runs a modified version of FreeBSD.
Sophos - The Sophos Email Appliance product is based on a hardened FreeBSD and scans inbound mail for spam and viruses, while also monitoring outbound mail for malware as well as the accidental loss of sensitive information.

>WhatsApp - When WhatsApp needed a platform that would be able to handle more than 1 million concurrent TCP connections per server, they chose FreeBSD. They then proceeded to scale past 2.5 million connections per server.

GNUfags on suicide watch.
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Can I make ls shit out encoded letters?
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>>54273885
So i have Botnet10 installed - UEFI, and i made space for my lunix install before hand

Can i dual boot without fucking up my windows install?
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>>54275796
if you want to shill your stuff i would recommend you not to use these examples, it makes you look like someone who never used the programs he is talking about.
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>>54275836
sure thing
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>>54275836
I don't know... Can you?
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>>54275426
kernel not included
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>>54275805
What's ur locale?
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>>54275836
of course you can.
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>>54274730
ranger does those things and you can use shell commands from within it
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>>54275836
You can. but make sure you install your linux distro of choice in UEFI too
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Facebook is spending millions trying to get Linux network performance to be even close to FreeBSD:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/07/facebook_wants_linux_networking_as_good_as_freebsd/

KEK
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>>54275912
>linux distro
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>>54275836
-Disable secure boot on win10
-Dont install if linux doesnt detect windows

I tried without those two steps and linux shat on wins' boot loader and i cant get grub to detect windows.
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>>54275884
en_US
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>>54275960
change to en_US.UTF8

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/locale

Arch instructions, probably generally distro-agnostic. You will have to log all the way out for it to take effect
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Hows Crunchbang++?
Is it that shady?
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>>54275922
Windows uses FreeBSD stack too
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Out of the blue polkit/pam is killing almost all services/procesesI cheched pam rules and its all stock to what is shipped with the default package. What would cause this? It also fails when root starts it.
Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-process:31807:89238 (system bus name :1.27, object path /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale C)
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>>54275890

KDE's file manager does that and you can use a shell from within it.
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does anyone use a full linux distro on a smartphone?
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#!++ or BunsenLabs?
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Hello /g/
I wanted to install linux (dual boot winblows 7) on my PC.
But I encountered this problem (pic related)

The only reason why I want to keep winblows on my PC is because certain programs and games aren't for linux and don't run smoothly through wine or VM.

Can't I just install Debian in "BIOS compatibility mode"?
Do I really need to remove winblows from my system all together to intall Debian?
Is there another solution to my problem?

Someone in another thread told me to start the installer BIOS-mode, but this results in "starting windows".
I'm having a real headache right now.
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>>54276151
see >>54273978
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>>54276187
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>>54276207
Boot the installer from BIOS mode instead of UEFI mode, you should be able to figure it out while choosing your boot device in your BIOS/UEFI
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>>54275884
>>54276007
>>54276090
>be jordan, shitpost anonymously
>see a question I can answer
>better use my tripcode so everybody knows what a nice guy I am
This is beyond pathetic.
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>>54276207
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=disable+secure+boot
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>>54276234
I don't do this.
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>>54276266
>what are unique IPs
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>>54275912
>>54275888
>>54275865
Cool! Thanks!

Also can GRUB install UEFI and boot BIOS systems? (i have a windows install on another machine that was installed before i got a UEFI board)

Pictured : Me during the transition from BIOS->UEFI
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>>54276282
Your software must be buggy.
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Why is he a meme on /g/?
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tried to boot linux live usb and got greeted with this message
>the selected boot device failed
followed by the option to boot from
>os boot manager
or
>boot from efi file
is boot from efi file actually the linux live key?
and if not, then why is my linux live key not working?
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>>54276295
he is a meme in this plane of existance
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>>54276151
I have Arch installed on the N900 in dual-boot with Maemo and I have an Arch chroot inside my N9's Meego.

RIP old Nokia, pretty much the only manufacturer who considered smartphones as pocket PCs.
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>>54276295
cause he's in his 7th gnu/trimester
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>>54276295
He's the man who made it possible to use a computer without the dick of a company in up the butt.
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>>54276078
>>54276173
fucks sake pal
just install Debian testing with Openbox and get the old config files from the Bunsen forums if you dig the aesthetic
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>>54276151
I want to buy a meizu with ubuntu touch. Didn't do it yet.
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>>54276337
all the more reason to curse MS for sticking their noses where they don't belong. If they hadn't intervened Nokia would have sold and produced a great linux-based mobile OS with MeeGo. They would have lost market share, sure, but not more than they did after the burning platform memo a.k.a. "don't buy our phones for 9 months until we can sell Win 7 phones" idiocy
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>>54276420
I was thinking about the oukitel k10000 meme and dat battery life with g/l
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>>54276425
This. Yet, Nokia's ecosystem would have pretty much turned into what's Blackberry is now. If not for Microsoft, they would have turned to Android in the end because >muh apps.
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>>54276425
>produced a great linux-based mobile OS
what about sailfish?
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>>54276295
https://audio-video.gnu.org/video/2015-07-10--rms--a-free-digital-society--720p.webm
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>>54276131
reasonably sure you have to 'open a terminal here' in order to actaully run any scripts. I'm not terribly familiar but can you have bookmarks, invert selections, select the files you want and then use a terminal to modify those files you selected (ex script %s %d/something/)? It just seems anything beyond copy/paste i have to open a terminal anyway in gui file managers
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>>54276503
>no shoes
>starts talking tinfoil hat shit immediately

kek
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>>54276552
what specifically are you referring to?
stop using a tripcode faggot.
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>>54276230
As I said, this results in starting windows for some reason
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There are people ITT who think they're so leet but don't even know about crontab or how to use org mode.
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>>54276637
eight megabytes and constantly swapping
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>>54276653
Fuck off finally.
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>>54275281
Use Wireshark. It supports capturing USB traffic.
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>>54276577
>what specifically are you referring to?
Richard Stallman in the linked video
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>>54276679
wow, i wouldn't have guessed that.
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>>54276677
>Wireshark
nice bloat
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>>54276679
This is a friendly thread and to keep it friendly, please take off your tripcode to prevent shitstorms. Thanks.
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>>54276700
Only shitposters cause shitstorms. You can filter or anonymize, or just ignore things you don't like.
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>>54276732
You could fuck off to reddit if you like namefagging.
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>>54276749
#ft9-HxC/
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I seperated my external USB3 HDD into two seperate partitions
Mounted Ubuntu_amd64.iso and copied and pasted files from there to HDD partition
Can I now boot and Install from that HDD?
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I know this probably isn't anything new to you guys, but bear with me.

I just created a new user-account, added it to the users and wheel group, configured the standard shell to zsh, installed a different DE (XFCE4), logged out and logged back in as that new users with a XFCE4 session and had a working system.

There's no configuration mess since it's a different users, the installed packages are all 100% removable without leaving any cruft (since nothing is run as root and can modify the system), and I can easily swith back to my old account with my configured KDE environment without any issues.

(Arch) Linux is pretty comfy. It has been a while since I used it for as long as I have now again and I'm really happy I made the switch. That's all.
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>>54277107
Everything is possible, but this is not how you should install Ubuntu. Good luck booting a Linux system without actually installing a bootloader and the system as it's intended to be installed.

Is it the first time you're trying to use a Linux distro?
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Forgive my lack of vocabulary but I have a security-related question. I understand you can have many physical devices (e.g. a hard drive and some sticks) treated as a single filesystem. Is it possible to install an OS onto such an arrangement to have the system unbootable unless one part of it (a USB stick) isn't there? Would it suffice with installing the /boot partition in the stick?
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>>54276698
what would you use?
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>>54277397
It would be better to use whole-disk encryption and keep the key on the USB drive.
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>>54273885
That latte art.

I'm a barista and do fancy shit, but that.

LITERALLY
FUCKING
HOW.
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>>54273885
I'm using Fedora 23, i tried to games on steam but they look weird like in this screenshot. Do I have to install something else?
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>>54277476
lsusb
lsusb -v for overkill
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>>54277580
Depends. What GPU?
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>>54277580
Also some games that Steam says are available on Linux don't start. Can anyone help me with these issues?
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>>54277607
Intel integrated graphics card but they ran fine on windows.
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>>54277621
Just get Windows lol
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Something's wrong with Transmission 2.94 (GTK) on Debian sid. All of the icons are missing and the menus are messed up and basically unnavigable. Any idea what's going on? I'm pretty sure I have other GTK 3.0 programs and this doesn't happen.
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>>54277651
Intel GPU on Linux != Intel GPU on Windows

Here's what I read on Fez's Steam page:
>Notes: Intel Integrated Graphics (excluding HD series) WILL NOT WORK WITH FEZ.

There may be some quirks to try in xorg.conf, but with a risk of making things unstable.

Retaking >>54277655 advice, try Fez on Wine, you could get surprising results.
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>>54277230
No and laptop has grub
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>>54277854
Ubuntu installer boots with isolinux. If your laptop bios detects your external HDD, you could still boot it with grub (installer kernel and initrd are in the casper directory). Still, there exist tools to put the installer on USB devices, so you can boot from the external HDD and that would work as if it was on CD.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
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I'm using Arch.
How do I uninstall something that I installed from aur?
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Debian Testing (Stretch) or Debian Unstable (Sid)?

What are the use cases for either?

I can't quite figure out which I'll be better off with.
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>>54277663
You're either using the gtk2 version,or you should try using the gtk2 version.
Also make sure your theme is 3.20 instead of a 3.18 as gtk likes to buttfuck your theme on updates.when they really dont need to do what they did and change 2 when they would just name it 5 and not stick changes in the middle fucking everything up
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>>54278277
compile an aur helper using makepkg
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>>54277541
But in that case the filesystem is still complete in the hard drive, isn't it? If the encryption is bypassed the data is wholly accessible.
>Attacks on Full-Disk-Encryption
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=24722

My idea is for the filesystem itself to be broken and unreadable without the missing sections supposedly split on the USB drive
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>>54278277
pacman -R package
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>>54278337
>Testing
pro:
it's up to date
it's debian, so even as testing it's still pretty solid

con:
quite a few bugs (non-critical)

>Unstable
pro:
it's bledding edge
that's it, yolo

con:
many bugs which might destroy your system
provides you none of the e-peen associated with Arch, provides most of its inconveniences
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>>54278569
I don't really care about e-peen

The thing is I keep hearing Testing can be quite behind in security updates and is very vulnerable. How true is this?

Also, that when it breaks it can take weeks for it to get fixed
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>>54278569
>many bugs which might destroy your system

Name one, that doesn't include echo $APT_MEME
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How do I secure my laptop so that it's safe from prying eyes even when not shut off completely? (suppose you just suspend the machine by putting down the lid, you go home and you get mugged on the way there)

Is this possible or do you always HAVE to shut off your laptop completely for encryption to be any good?

Bonus question, are there any preferred methods of full disk encryption, any to avoid? This must all be done on a fresh install, correct?
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>>54278485
You would be better off locking your bios and your boot loader.You then remove your OS drive and carry it with you all the time.How here is the hard part,make sure to keep your harddrive out of view,but on your persons at all times.The nsa might have black suits at your school,mall,neighborhood.
etc etc


tl;dr
Nothing is secure,you can only mitigate threats.
Seriously stop trying to be the DoD,and just use WDE and be intelligent in your setup.Ther is a command within luks that will nuke all of your keys and headers. Setup wheel users not needing to auth sudo,and then make a bash script doing the commands needed.Dont use passwords,you can be beaten to get them turned over.Keep your bootloader on a usb drive,which is encypted with a keyfile,and your headers keyfiles are within this encrypted container.You will then need a place to store the containers keyfile,so you need a second usb drive that is encypted with a keyfile.This last drive you store in a safety deposit box at your local bank,make sure you screen the bank staff for criminal behavior.Now here is the fun part.Get a box the size of the depost box and put it inside,because with a warrent they can open your box
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What happens when you delete your DE and don't have another one on the filesystem? Do you boot into X or something?
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Just gonna leave this here.

Thought it was amusing

https://xkcd.com/456/
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>>54278776
This question was asked in such a way that it's clear you know very little.

Try learning some more and then come back and ask your question in a smarter way desu.
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>>54278776

It's not exactly hard to install a DE via command line
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>>54278869
Don't be a dick to new friends, Jordan.
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>>54278738
kek thanks
Just for disclosure, this was a purely theoretical concern. I don't actually handle sensitive information that requires this level of security
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>>54278705
Do you leave your car door open with the keys in it?

luks is the only real option,encfs is prone to raping your data lately.ecryptfs is just shit
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>>54278896
No I mean, what literally happens? Do you just get a cursor on the screen?
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>>54278900
It's hard to answer his question correctly without explaining a LOT to him!
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>>54278855
>phone answered in day
>must compile kernel
This is clearly gentoo.It takes a day to compile a 1mb program.
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>>54278776
You can startx in to x default.
You get pushed to your getty.
You reinstall it as all your settings for it are retainined when you remove it,so you just boot like normal
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If something in Debian Sid gets borked, how can I downgrade to the previous version I was using or the one that exists in Testing?
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>>54278957
why do people compile kernels and source instead of getting them precompiled?
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>>54279014
This is impossible with gentoo.

With linux there are a fuck ton of patches to fix shit or add in drivers

I compile in the bfq and ck patch sets as they allow better response times,and is a real time kernel,allowing for better performance with certain programs
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>>54279014
they like to believe that actually understand all LOC in their entirety.
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How do I fix screen tearing?
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>>54273885
Anyone got neat wallpapers with the Debian logo on them? (that arent in the defaults)

I really like it

Preferably 16:9
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>>54279469
disable compsiting and disable xmopmgr.dont use compton
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>>54279580
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>>54279580
>>54279580
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>>54279603

>disable compsiting

It made things even worse.
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>>54279693
Gfx card?
de/wm?

Historically compsitiing caused tearing
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>>54279706
geforce 660
xfce
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>>54279638
>>54279655
thanks guys

got any more?
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so my linux live key isn't working
is it ok to install a different variant right over the current one, or do i have to uninstall the current one first
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>>54279828
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>>54278337
testing is quite good and pretty stable. Never had a single issues with it now (more than a year using it everyday).
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>>54279828
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>>54279580
>>54279638
>>54279655

debian logo is quite awesome. It's sad the other distributions doesn't have one that good.
Now how i want to install debian just to put a wallpaper like this...
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>>54280015
Half the reason I use Debian is the logo. Not even kidding

I don't know what it is about it. it's very simple but I love it
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>>54280015
I agree. Debian doesn't even have the plymouth splash screen by default, but it's themed GRUB and standard wallpaper make it look so much better than any other distro I've tried.
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>>54280030
Did you know it was made using nonfree software?
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>>54280049
If it's true I don't mind

I use Debian with non-free contrib repos anyway, so you're rustling the wrong tree
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>>54280049
Would you just fuck off you ugly tripfag?
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>>54280068
Here are steps I found to reproduce Debian's logo in Photoshop:

1) Select the spiral tool and click on your canvas. Change the number of segments from 10 to 8.
2) Select the Charcoal rough brush
3) Change stroke from 1pt to 0.5 pt
4) Rotate -90 degrees
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>>54280106
fucking cancer
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>>54280068
This.
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which distributions have a nice logo ?
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>>54280166
Debian.
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>>54280182
As long as you don't mind it just being a Photoshop brush spun into a spiral
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>>54280166
>>54280182
>>54280233
FUCK OFF FINALLY

Troll somewhere else.
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>>54280233
>guys guys, look, I know something cool, regonize me, I'm cool, guyyyyyysss?!
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>>54280233
Did you get bullied a lot as a kid?
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>>54280278
Sure, you can think that...if you don't mind being wrong all the time.
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>>54280278
>>54280261
>>54280289

Just don't reply, maybe he will go away.
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>>54280289
No and in middle and high school I was on the football team. The only bullying I ever got was boys-will-be-boys style from my friends.
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>>54280305
>football team
Oh, that explains the likely head concussions then
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>>54279655
>Think Correctly
please tell me that is not the official slogan. Because that is creepy as shit
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>>54280335
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>>54280398
this is awful, who came up with this

gives me 1984 type vibes
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>>54280398
It's a play on ``Think Different'' from Apple.
Just neckbeards thinking they're clever, nothing sinister about it
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>>54280419
see >>54280278
an >>54280122
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Not entirely GNU/Linux related, but oh shit you guys.

https://thehackernews.com/2016/04/tor-unmask-malware.html
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>>54280580
>flash
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>>54280589
HE WARNED YOU
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>>54280580
>hack
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>>54279580
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All I ever needed to know about the Debian logo I learned on /g/.
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>>54280684
All you are saying is it's easily reproducible

Are you implying it's bad because it's easily reproducible or are you just stating the fact
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>>54280580
>former Tor developer
>that means it's an inside job!
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Brand new Ubuntu babby here. How do I get a 21:9 2560x1080 resolution working? I tried following a video tutorial, but the screen just went blank when I selected it.
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>>54280842
I'll chime in. Have you made sure your video drivers are properly installed?
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>>54280951
No, but that's probably a good idea
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>>54280951
>>54281059
My drivers are up to date
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sorry for stupidity in advance
but is it possible to do windows system image recovery from linux live key?
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>>54281731
I think I'm talking to you in the sqt thread too, clonezilla is a live environment independant of windows and can boot ant restor your image even if you can't get window to even try starting
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>>54281766
yes you are lol
thanks a lot, i will check out clonezilla
as i understand, i wont be able to use the image i already created through clonezilla tho?
I would have preferred to restore to that image because I have already tinkered around with some things I shouldn't have since then
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>>54281766
>>54281833
i won't be able to restore the image i made with windows recovery through clonezilla is what i meant
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>>54281847
not sure but according to this it looks like maybe you can
http://clonezilla.org/show-live-doc-content.php?topic=clonezilla-live/doc/02_Restore_disk_image
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Any good and very informative lectures/talks about linux that you guys like/want to recommend? I'm not looking for laid back Linux Sucks type of stuff, but rather more in the terms of technical documentation about thinks relating to Linux.
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>>54275773
Try putting a script in /etc/Xsession.d/
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>>54281882
holy shit that is so much more complicated than i thought
i thought it would just be "backup image" "restore image" "done"
anyway thanks for recommending it to me, I just hope I can understand it
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>>54278921
Pretty sure you have to run it with a client. starts uses xterm as the fallback option
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>>54279000
Look at snapshot.Debian.org (or .net) add the repo from appropriate day to apt sources, update, install with packagename=version, check apt-cache policy packagename for available versions
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>>54279891
The install process usually wipes the drive anyway right?
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Suddenly, sudo and su no longer function.I also cannot start systemd services as user or as root.They all fail with polkit/pam killing the process.Logging in from getty works,and logging back in from a lock screen via slock works.
pam_uxnix(sudo:auth): auth coudnt not identify password for [user]

I havent touched anything in /etc/pam.d.Wtf happened
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How am I doing /g/ ? A wallpaper, iconset and some layout changes later... Thx for the ricing help thus far
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>>54282311
yeah but I was wondering if the uninstallation was done in some specific way where just "wiping" it won't do the same thing
I'm a complete noob to this live key thing so
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threadly reminder to get good

worldoflinux.org
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>>54282448
You're the guy that did a minimal install and then added xfce?
How the hell did you end up with that many packages?
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>>54282433
Let me guess, arch or mangina?
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>>54282518
Arch.
But pam and polkit havent been updated since nov and dec respectivly.
None of the updates were related to security features at all.
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>>54279469
Try putting ths in your /etc/environment
CLUTTER_PAINT=disable-clipped-redraws:disable-culling"
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>>54282507

Mostly assorted math libraries and clang, a lot of sdks and the like for work.
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Question here:

If my hardware is not fully supported by the kernel, how likely is it that a new release will bring full support?

I am talking about my touchpad mostly, and my keyboard works but buggy. Is not new hardware so it works but not in the wag it should be.
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>>54282554
Sounds like your system would beg to differ.
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>>54282642
Depends if anyone is working on it or not.
If it has support but is not how it should be then you either need to set it up properly or submit bug reports.
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>>54282702

I hope they work on it. I'll try helping with bug reports. I just can't stand a non unix-like os anymore.
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>>54282725
You're problem is so vague I can only say good luck.
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>>54282688
This is it.Nothing system critical
[2016-04-26 12:53] [ALPM] installed acpid (2.0.27-1)
[2016-04-27 12:25] [ALPM] installed perl-file-slurp (9999.19-3)
[2016-04-27 12:25] [ALPM] installed perl-io-stringy (2.111-1)
[2016-04-27 12:26] [ALPM] installed perl-text-csv-xs (1.23-1)
[2016-04-27 12:26] [ALPM] installed perl-class-trigger (0.14-3)
[2016-04-27 12:26] [ALPM] installed perl-text-csv-simple (1.00-1)
[2016-04-27 14:39] [ALPM] installed bluefish (2.2.8-1)
[2016-04-27 14:52] [ALPM] installed docbook-xsl (1.79.1-1)
[2016-04-27 14:52] [ALPM] installed yelp-xsl (3.20.1-1)
[2016-04-27 14:52] [ALPM] installed yelp-tools (3.18.0-1)
[2016-04-27 14:52] [ALPM] installed source-highlight (3.1.8-6)
[2016-04-27 14:52] [ALPM] installed gtk-doc (1.25-1)
[2016-04-27 16:28] [ALPM] installed python2-lxml (3.6.0-1)
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>>54282448
> deluge webui
That used to be good, then all the information disappeared from the bottom pane ;(
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>>54282765
Thanks, I really kept it vague because even if i love linux and used it for so long before I never had hardware issues and I have no time to write patches or so.
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>>54282448
>xfce
>atom
>all those icons
>Packages: 1803
>ristretto
>javascript
>sans 10
>transparency
>those term colors
>desktop icons
>bar just to list the window names
>another bar for icons
>that time display

Things to improve on, jeff.
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When I want to know the source of a function, I usually run
type functionname
, it's good to check the source, but sucks for copy pasting because the output is reformatted and ;'s are added everywhere. Is there a better way to display functions, sourced in bash?
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>>54282880

I used i3 for years with zero customization and recently got sick of it so I probably make some bad choices yea
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>>54283132
Did you look at "help type"?
$ type -p mkfs.ext4
/usr/bin/mkfs.ext4
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alright so I'm running debian on my main box and rpi3.

mainbox is running unstable, rpi3 is running jessie. It turns out that unstable breaks the living fuck out of the pi, so I can't run it.

the problem is, a program I use a lot (mypaint) recently got a huge update/upgrade. This update is not yet available for jessie, and I really want it on my pi.

is there a way to selectively install unstable packages on debian?
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>>54283730
whoops that name wasn't supposed to be there
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Cant start netctl after a reboot

-- Subject: Unit UNIT has finished start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit UNIT has finished starting up.
--
-- The start-up result is done.
Apr 28 23:44:51 linux sudo[15070]: pam_unix(sudo:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=1000 euid=0 tty=/dev/pts/5 ruser=user rhost= user=user
Apr 28 23:44:56 linux sudo[15070]: user : TTY=pts/5 ; PWD=/home/user ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/systemctl start netctl
Apr 28 23:44:56 linux sudo[15070]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
Apr 28 23:44:56 linux polkitd[8404]: Registered Authentication Agent for unix-process:15071:4437084 (system bus name :1.82 [/usr/bin/pkttyagent --notify-fd 4 --fallback], object path /org/fre
Apr 28 23:44:56 linux systemd[1]: Started (Re)store the netctl profile state.
-- Subject: Unit netctl.service has finished start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit netctl.service has finished starting up.
--
-- The start-up result is done.
Apr 28 23:44:56 linux sudo[15070]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root
Apr 28 23:44:56 linux polkitd[8404]: Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-process:15071:4437084 (system bus name :1.82, object path /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, local c)
Apr 28 23:44:56 linux sudo[15077]: user : TTY=pts/5 ; PWD=/home/user ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/systemctl status netctl
Apr 28 23:44:56 linux sudo[15077]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
Apr 28 23:44:58 linux sudo[15077]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root

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>>54283730
Look up apt pinning, here is mine (testing/sid)
$ cat /etc/apt/preferences
Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: *
Pin: release a=experimental
Pin-Priority: 800

And then you can either do
apt-cache plociy packagename
to look at the available versions and then install packagename=version or you can just
apt -t unstable packagename

But definitely don't you apt -y because it is liable to try upgrading half you system.
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>>54283770
I don't have policykit but have you tried to at least isolate the problem yet? Eg kill policykit start it up in nofork debug verbose mode or some shit?
>Unit netctl.service has finished starting up.
>The start-up result is done.
Doesn't that mean it worked?
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Everytime I boot arch tries to mount a floppy disk that doesn't exist

>blk_update_request: i/o error, dev fd0 sector 0

I tried to

>create a blacklist.conf
>edit fstab with /dev/fd0 /floppy/ext2 ext2 ro,root,noauto 0 0

No results. I don't have this option in BIOS either. Any help?
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>>54284179
It starts it apparently,but then kills it after it starts. This is true for any service.Even systemd-networkd fails.
Policykit is part of systemd,even stopping it, it instantly pops back up

I have uninstalled policykit and pam,and removed all config files related to them.

I'm at a loss,nothing in the system has been updated. I was running commands that used sudo and this shit started
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I encountered a problem today.
I couldn't run dota 2. Steam said the game was running even though nothing happened. I was forced to reboot the computer because I couldn't kill dota 2. I completely uninstalled and reinstalled the game. Didn't work. Uninstalled Steam and reinstalled, during this process, I found that for some reason [multilib] was disabled on my pacman.conf So I re enabled it and installed steam. But now I can't run Steam. Can anyone give me a hand?
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>>54284360
What does it say when you try to run it (from the terminal of course).
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>>54284423
[chili@T430 ~]$ steam
/home/chili/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: línea 161: VERSION_ID: variable sin asignar
/home/chili/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: línea 161: VERSION_ID: variable sin asignar
Running Steam on arch 64-bit
/home/chili/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: línea 161: VERSION_ID: variable sin asignar
STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1459463254)
libGL error: unable to load driver: i965_dri.so
libGL error: driver pointer missing
libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so
libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
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What's the best live image? For general rescue operations I might need in the future.
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