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>>54271535
Obvious b8
>>54271579
No b8. It's incredibly accurate to a tee
>>54271535
>numpy and matlab on higher level than fortran
>lapack written in fortran
>numpy 2 levels above python
>c# and c++ top tier, c and java pajeet tier
>>54271596
>>c# and c++ top tier, c and java pajeet tier
This is true. C# is incredibly efficient and a well designed language for programming on Windows, cross-platform it's not quite there yet. C++fills that hole.
C and Java are just garbage. Enjoy your vulnerabilities. C++ is C improved in every way. C# is Java improved in every way.
Pretty accurate OP.
>>54271596
Mostly correct.
>c# and c++ top tier
c++ is fine, c# should probably move down to Java's tier.
Possibly slightly below it within the same tier.
>c and java pajeet tier
These are right where they belong.
>>54271535
Why is Clojure the only represnted Lisp?
>>54271714
>c# should probably move down to Java's tier
Opinion discarded.
>>54271714
C# is literally one of the best languages ever created, you must have never used it to say this.
![61134554[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jOs1uaj.jpg "61134554[1].jpg")
STOP POSTING C# AT THE TOP LMFAO
>ruby
>not feminist tier
Dropped.
>>54271751
Ruby is amazing. You fell for the /g/ "sjw tier" meme.
Try using it for once
![hqdefault[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/oMIP5cr.jpg "hqdefault[3].jpg")
>>54271745
C# is same level as java
>>54271736
>C# is literally one of the best languages ever created
You're right for the wrong reasons.
Visual Studio is the best IDE ever created, and .NET one of the best, if not the best framework ever created. The C# language is mediocre. any language that forces you to use classes is inherently bad.
Is the black guy anyone in particular or is Python just a black people language?
![putty_entrypoint_patched[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/25gQfB1.png "putty_entrypoint_patched[1].png")
What about ASM op?
>>54271776
C# in comparison to C++ btfos it purely as a language.
Better readability, much quicker to develop with, much better in many features, can write 1 line of code in c# equivalent to like 10 lines in C++ which ends up being a jumbled, confusing mess.
>>54271776
>any language that forces you to use classes is inherently bad.
Opinion discarded.
>>54271773
C# is far superior than java though. Putting them at the same level shows that you haven't used them enough to have an informed opinion.
>>54271791
Neckbeard tier
Unless you just use inline ASM for small things in C++
>>54271795
>can write 1 line of code in c# equivalent to like 10 lines in C++ which ends up being a jumbled, confusing mess.
LMFAO
>>54271810
>inline ASM
But the entire point of higher level languages is portability, this seems kinda dumb
>>54271813
>he thinks this is not true
Try using c# for once before making conclusions
>>54271795
If then, Python is the best language of all.
It's the most readable, better in many features, quickest to develop with, least wordy...
>>54271803
Fuck you bitch cunt retard
Forced classes have set back programming by two decades
>>54271803
What if you want to make a cubic array of 10,000^3 longs. It's gonna create an instance of the long class for each of them, possibly making your RAM melt and your computer screen spit blood at you.
>>54271786
... he's Pajeet, the barely competent minimum wage Indian your job gets outsourced to.
>>54271912
Does C# not store numeric types as values?
>>54271837
Python is a shitty PERL clone that's less useful but easier to learn.
>>54271963
Ruby is better
>>54271957
It's been a while since I used C# but my recollection is that even basic variable types are preloaded classes.
>>54271963
What can you do in Perl that you can't do in Python? I've been looking to learn a comfy high level scripting language, but perl seems to have fallen out of fashion lately
>>54271980
That seems a bit fucked. Is the memory overhead for classes more than that of basic variables?
>>54271990
Ruby is the comfiest of all.
>2016
>Not being C++, Java, Python, R, Matlab, JavaScript full-stack masterrace
I wanna learn everything. Too bad there's only 24 hours in a day and 4-8 of those I waste sleeping (otherwise I'd go insane).
>>54271535
>Ruby top tier
Nobody in the industry cares about this language anymore. It was nice to learn just cause it forces you to learn proper OOP while not being quite as irrelevant as Smalltalk... So I still recommend it for learning purposes just like I recommend Lisp (or maybe even Haskell) for similar reasons. And i think more schools should teach their mid-advanced level OO courses in Ruby (back when I was an undergrad, I was taught in Smalltalk, but outside that one class, I haven't used that language even once).
>Fortran not on the academic/college nerd tier
u wot m8
>JavaScript and Node.js on the lowest tier
You placed the language and framework the industry currently has the biggest hard-on for on the lowest tier... how out of touch can you be?
What if I'm not on that infograph but im pretty good at playing games on ps3,can i still fit in bro's? I did buy t420 and run gentoo, count's for something yeah?
Oh and i never have to do captcha twice.
>>54272002
Every time I run anything in Ruby it takes ages to just start, it drives me absolutely mad, so I don't see myself using that any time soon
>>54271837
Just make a class named IamTooRetardedForOOP, put all your functions there, make all methods static, use only structs with no methods as the data types, and use "using static" when importing your class. There you have your non-OOP C#, retard.
>>54272044
>just do all this to make it work properly
>see? you're not forced in any way
Your retarded implementation of OOP is absolute cancer. Thank God we've finally started to move away from it.
>>54271535
Languages I know/knew and have used, in order of the amount of usage:
R
Java
Bash
Matlab
Python
C
Perl
C++
Groovy
ActionScript
php
Pascal
Rate me as a person.
>>54271626
>C++ is C improved in every way.
T O P K E K
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>>54272096
You use R the most, so it sounds like you've got an actual real job
What do you do anon?
>>54271795
write me that c# line and ill translate it to c++ in 1 line, do it
>>54272096
Also there's a large gap between C++ and Groovy there.
>>54272108
I'm a bioinformatician in academia.
>>54271535
Where the fuck is assembly and machine code at?
I make custom hardware for a living and shit aint here.
>>54272096
LITERALLY HITLER
>>54271822
He's laughing at how stupid it is to say something like that mate.
C# has some nifty features but they are usually just to cover up cancer or are simple macros, automatic getters and setters come to mind as an example.
As a c#.net dev, it's definitely not perfect, VS is damn good though.
>>54272096
bretty good but why is java so high?
>>54271535
Yes, please keep remaking this thread and call it /the cut general/ you no-life imbecile
>>54272463
>Yes, please keep remaking this thread and call it /the cut general/ you no-life imbecile
Ohhh im sorry. Did your language end up in Pajeet-tier? That's too bad. Maybe you'll make the cut next time around.
>>54272131
>in academia
I think having R as first shows that by its own.
![c-vs-c-9-638[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2mRvWaz.jpg "c-vs-c-9-638[1].jpg")
>>54271822
Kek'd
>>54272480
But muh ps3!!!!
>>54272534
I couldn't program a fuck,but that info tells me im winrar with C++
>>54272534
c++ can only create console applications?
>what is almost every single game/application on your computer?
c# only works on windows. Can't ever make an application that works on more than one OS
>>54272517
Bioinformaticians outside academia use R too.
>>54272430
R - Daily bread and butter for data analysis
Java - mostly Java EE, wrapping up our group's work as web tools or otherwise things even a biologist could use; as the primary maintainer of our group's tools I end up using it a lot
Bash - Daily duct tape for our servers
Matlab - used a lot in my student days, now I barely use it, displaced by R (which is generally shittier but more common in my field and with a wider code base for my purposes)
Python - Daily scripting tool when Bash is not enough and/or I need Biopython
C - Used for performance critical bits of our tools and/or small self-contained tools, second language I have learned after Pascal as a kid, I feel very comfortable with it
Perl - Daily scripting tool back when I didn't know Python and Biopython could not compete with BioPerl
C++ - Learned when I tried to make more complex programs in C as a teen and wanted to dabble in vidya programming, these days I mostly just use C though
Groovy - Learned it because some bioinformatics project used it and I was going to contribute, but since I've been disappointed with both the project and the tool
ActionScript - Made some flash games as a teen
php - Dabbled in web stuff as a teen
Pascal - First language I have learned as a kid in the early 90s, switched to C quite quickly though
>>54272534
c++ can only create console applications?
>what is almost every single game/application on your computer?
Have you ever programmed in C++?
c# only works on windows. Can't ever make an application that works on more than one OS
>>54271535
>Fortran not in the pajeet section.
It was the Java of its time.
>>54272601
>Groovy - Learned it because some bioinformatics project used it and I was going to contribute, but since I've been disappointed with both the project and the tool
*both the project and the language
>>54272610
yes but it was a time before outsourcing
>>54272609
>c# only works on windows
False.
>>54271535
what's the language to the right of C#?
>>54271535
>Ruby
Saged and hidden.
>>54271535
NumPy is not a language mate, its a package for scientific computing in Python
>>54272007
>You placed the language and framework the industry currently has the biggest hard-on for on the lowest tier... how out of touch can you be?
This.
Like any of you FORTRAN ever
>babbys techno club /g/
>>54272639
White guy who focuses on a pajeet lang is a pajeet in my eyes. tbqh
>>54272681
>what's the language to the right of C#?
F#
>>54272690
>NumPy is not a language mate, its a package for scientific computing in Python
Of course it's not. But it was meant that its only used by academic nerds
>>54272601
I'm legit jelous, I only started to learn programming languages (C,Python) few years ago. I wish I had proper education or mentor when I was younger.
>>54272601
Hey bro, bioinformatician student here. Currently learning R & Java, I already know quite some python and bash.
Would you recommend learning Perl? I've heard it's still used a lot in the industry
>>54272716
it's on the "language" side and it's not a language
>>54272753
You know what was meant m8
>>54271768
this.
>>54272771
its a retarded picture if it calls libraries and runtimes as languages
>>54271535
I like that.
>>54272724
It's definitely still being used, but it is being slowly displaced by Python, and has lost ground significantly since its heyday in the 00s when there were few alternatives to using BioPerl. Many older bioinformaticians still use it though.
I would say it's worth knowing on a basic level because quite often an interesting tool/pipeline from some paper will turn out to be some jury-rigged series of shell scripts wrapped around some Perl scripts and you will have to fiddle with it to get it to work properly.
For your own code it's probably better to use Python where you would earlier use Perl though.
>>54271813
What he says is 100% true, I encountered the exact same thing. Try C# before you judge
>c++ not in pajeet tier
>c not in top tier
>c# not in pajeet tier
>ruby not in feminist tier
>haskell not in nerdy kid tier
>no lisp
>no perl
>>54272917
>tripcucks
trash tier
>>54272882
*Also I recall a discussion about whether Perl should be included in a bioinformatics course being planned recently, and the argument for its inclusion was specifically that it still cropped up in many job ads for bioinformaticians, so it appears to still be desirable for industry positions.
>>54272882
Thanks!
>>54272927
>not becoming a tripfag for free
>>54272100
Fuck off, kid. Come back once you've written more than 1 line in both of them.
>>54272100
C++ is literally C improved and modernized.
There's absolutely no reason not to use it
ITT: college-level language holy wars.
Working at a big silicon valley tech company you'll likely be required to use Java or C++. It's good to know the tooling around them. I've made a career for the past 8 or so years from moving to Java/JVM languages. It's better suited for extremely large and global teams. I've also managed to be generally pajeet free in that time. YMMV.
>>54273735
>>54273902
How is C Pajeet and not neckbeard tier?
>>54272100
I can tell you've never worked in any kind of technical programming position
>>54272598 >>54272609 ...
You forgot the delete the first post, faggot.
>C
>pajeet tier
>this thread agrees
U WOT M8
>>54273976
>being this uneducted
It's a meme about C++.
While in C you use everything that you have learned, C++ is like 4 languages at the same time - which is NOT NECESSARILY an advantage..
>>54274841
It's quite true
>>54271535
c++ > c?
well meme'd
>implying there are any jobs in tech anymore
>>54275559
Pajeet is the holder of all knowledge, knower of all things.
>>54271535
Obvious b8.
>>54271596
Don't worry anon, no one actually thinks any language is better than Fortran.
>>54271723
>>54271736
Microsoft shills, please go. Your language is shit and you're bad at programming.
>>54272714
It's not a pajeet lang if pajeets don't use it.
>>54272610
You're just mad because you can't do math.
>>54272917
You're a retarded tripfag, but this thread is still shit.
>c++ not in pajeet tier
Valid. C++ is for autistic manchildren.
>c not in top tier
Because it's a garbage Fortran clone that shouldn't be used by anyone for any reason ever.
>c# not in pajeet tier
Valid. C# is literally made by an indian's company.
>ruby not in feminist tier
Valid. Ruby is for red-haired cows who can't actually program. It's Python+femaleshit.
>haskell not in nerdy kid tier
I'd think le anonymous guy counts as a nerdy kid, but those two fags do need their places changed, and then the le corpcuck at the top needs to be dropped because he's actually an ideaguy who doesn't know any languages.
>no lisp
There is LISP though, you're just a newfag tripcuck who doesn't know which one it is.
>no perl
It's a list of programming languages. Next you'll ask for HTML too?
>>54275353
Holy shit, you sure know your memes kid. Did you graduate from one of the Meme league universities?
>>54274841
C stands for Cuck.
Wtf is the last thing on the top row?
>>54275714
>implying most of those languages can get you a job
>completely missing the subtle underlying meme
>>54276195
Google.
>tfw php
>tfw eternal pajeet
guys id quit but they pay me too much
>>54276353
How much senpai?
>>54276516
85k, utah, usa
>>54271535
where are OCaml and Idris anon?
>>54272598
Did you ever hear of Mono?
C# is not specific to windows, its just .net is windows only
>>54276560
Let me correct that. With .Net CORE and DNX you can use anything, mono or not
Move Ruby to SJW tier and C to normie tier.
>>54271535
>
op's programming skill == photoshop
>>54271535
Cry some more
>>54272882
>>54272601
>employed people
>on /g/
