Which distro ships the most stable KDE? I need to try it to see if they got any good in a year...
My personal opinion is :
Fedora - no way, unstable since ints testing ground for RHEL
Arch - maybe stable regarding KDE but I use this computer for some work so I wouldn't risk with Archboy
>KDE
>stable
Nice oxymoron.
>>54269550
>kde
HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>kde for work
HAHAHAHA OH GOD
wait, you're not joking?
>>54269564
So nothing changed in a year huh? Damn those fuckers and their awesome KWin and Dolphin. The only two good things from that bundle.
>>54269571
wew lad
>>54269572
The only way to get a stable KDE right now is to use Debian stable and get KDE4. The KDE developers completely ignore what "stable" is and why it is a good thing. Sad, because it has potential to be the best Linux DE.
Just usr debian with gnome or xfce, whan need have you for kde
>>54269550
OpenSuSe or Manjaro from my experiance. YMMV
KDE stuff is usually really stable in Gentoo except at this moment. They're working on the profiles for KDE/Plasma (KDE deprecated, Plasma to be recommended).
I reckon a month or two and it's gonna be real dandy.
>>54269601
This. In current state it is unusable
>>54269550
You can use Manjaro KDE pre1 or pre2 to get latest 5.6. Its basically a preconfigured Arch with DE and stabler repos. It also has a bootable iso so you can run it off usb to try it with no need to install.
>>54269550
Fedora KDE is an unstable POS. Likely because KDE is a mess rather than Fedora though.
>>54269601
I agree with this. I use Debian stable kde4 as my daily driver. Its not as flashy as kde5 but it at least fucking works. I've tried other distros with kde5 and they are about as stable as the world trade center after the plane hit.
Also kde5 has no way to hide your file view history. So if anyone opens your kickoff menu it'll be full of porn or links to your pirated whatever collection etc. Pretty lame desu
>>54269717
>Also kde5 has no way to hide your file view history.
holy shit, what? How can this be?
I used KDE for a few months. Then I went back to GNOME and I couldn't be happier. It just isn't worth it. Solitaire is more fun when you're given the opportunity to lose.
>>54269726
You can switch from the default kickoff menu to the classic one but it's still making a note behind the scenes I.e if anyone switches back to the default kickoff menu boom, file history is right there.
Kde4 had an option to clear the history but no way to prevent it recording it to begin with. You have to set some obscure folders permissions to disallow KDE from accessing the directory it stores the history to do that.
I remember reading a KDE dev addressed this and he said it was because they were in the middle of changing how something was stored and kickoff hasn't been updated yet. So naturally a year later fuck all has changed.
OpenSUSE
>wanted to install KDE today
>see this thread
Well, shit.
>>54269550
Arch isn't unstable you fat retard. Go troll somewhere else.
>>54270008
Do it, ignore these guh-nome people. It can crash (rarely), but it is the most customizable and best looking desktop that linux has to offer. I would recommend tumbleweed.
>>54269572
Okular is pretty cool. But I prefer Zathura in every way, though.
>>54270088
>Arch isn't unstable
lol. Maybe if your definition of stable is the same as KDE developers.
>>54270106
KDE Plasma isn't very stable, Arch is.
You are just regurgitating the "arch is bad" meme spawned by a fat retard with a BMI of 39.
>>54270120
I've used Arch for a year and I can assure you Arch is not stable. An OS where an update suddenly breaks suspend is not stable. Arch is the definition of unstable distro model.
>KDE
>subsidized by various European governments
>millions of man-hours went into development
>it's still shit
How? Where Microsoft and Apple succeed, "free" projects always fail, even when they have abundant amounts of money at their disposal and people working for free.
>>54269550
Fedora + KDE here.
If you want to test Plasma 5, it's the best choice. It had some flaws, but they fixed the real issues ~2 months ago. Now they are still not “stable” enough to be used in an business envrionment, but it's ready for not-complete-retards and the only bugs i know now are:
- Profile Pictures have to be placed in /usr/share/sddm/faces (no nice gui)
- package management with muon or appr can really fuck up Fedora (i removed PackageKit and plasma-pk-updates, because i don't trust them)
>>54270120
>>54270106
Found the Arch Fanboy
>>54270299
Found the fatty. You even rune the same OS.
>>54270299
*tipping hard*
>>54269717
kde4 is very comfy, stable and smooth. And besides design changes I don't see many improvements in kde5.
I tried latest Kubuntu and shit's was basically unusable. When CPU usage is high (compiling something, etc) the entire DE starts to behave like using Windows 10 on a Pentium II must feel. It's Windows Vista-tier. My fear is that KDE5 won't be stable and smooth enough in time for the next Debian stable freeze.
>>54269550
KDE Neon
>>54270344
>KDE Plasma unstable and buggy as hell
>lets start working on new KDE called Neon
KDE devs everyone
Been using Plasma for like two weeks now. I've had like two crashes (which, believe me, is really fucking amazing from last year's a crash a second).
But, the Qt applications are lacking quite a bit.
I'll probably go back to glorious MATE in a few days.
I really have problem with the systemtray in KDE Plasma. It won't remember the preferences for many applications (Visible: Hidden/Shown/Auto) between logins, anyone else?
>>54270351
"Plasma was a mistake."
- Konqi
>>54269550
Install Fedora mate you fucking retard
>>54269601
this
>>54269550
Been using KDE on Arch since 5.4 now
Feels great. And it keeps getting better at each updates
>>54270153
>breaks suspend
I used kubuntu and it's same there
Tbh kubuntu isn't bad, and if you want to update KDE but leave your system you can enable the back ports repository
KDE neon is basically that, stable Ubuntu + bleeding edge KDE
Debian stable currently has KDE 4 which I wouldn't recommend using, but I'm pretty sure Debian testing has KDE 5
Also you could just use an unstable distro and not upgrade everything, only upgrade specific packages when you need it
>>54270357
What sort of problems are you having with Qt applications?
>>54271056
I never said kubuntu was stable either.
>KDE 4 which I wouldn't recommend using
Any real reason why besides latest is always greatest (which is false and stupid)?
>>54271520
What can you tell me about KDE Neon? Why does this even exist if Plasma is not finnished yet? I dont quite understand their webpage, they say that this "distro" comes with minimal KDE, not even Dolphin?
Also that difference between user and developer versions is not quite clear.
>>54271553
greentext quoting was meant for >>54271520
Why do people use anything else than Gnome Classic? That is, on a computer that is supposed to do actual work instead of tinkering with some hopeless DE/WM.
>>54269550
Just install Debian.
>>54269550
Using it in OpenSUSE Tumbleweed for the past few months. Can't say I've experienced any problems. Does what I need it to do and does it great, allows me to change pretty much anything that I don't like - without needing to use some 3rd party tools for things that should be in the settings. Pretty much a perfect DE for me.
>>54271558
It's basically KDE testing + Ubuntu stable
It helps them get the latest KDE software to people with a stable base system. That's all I know
To find out more, I'd recommend downloading both, and trying them live or in a VM, I'm hoping to once I have some time to kill
>>54271553
I just don't like it lol, it's just my preference
Plasma looks really nice out of the box, I thought KDE 4 was kind of a terd, also I really like the improvements to krunner, and when I tried it on opensuse it crashed a lot, I've never had an actual crash on KDE 5, worst was when I upgraded dolphin it crashed until I restarted KDE, so that's pretty good lol
>>54269550
>Which distro ships the most stable KDE?
Kubuntu 14.04
>>54271801
>It's basically KDE testing
Does it mean that Neon exist like a testbed for Plasma? I mean Plasma is still main thing and is more stable than Neon?
>>54271871
Neon exists because
A) KDE devs can test newer software without having to worry about the base system causing problems
B) users can use the KDE plasma (which is being developed rather quickly) without having to use a bleeding edge distribution
i have been playing with kde since last night and have bad news
i think it was kwin that experienced a visual bug
i run radeon free driver (same as with kde v4 where no noticeable bugs happened)
the other thing is you are stuck with the breeze icons for some things in the app menu and all of the icons on the right side of the panel
i liked kde v4 and oxygen too
you might be better off with LXQt if you need the kde-applications
>>54271917
Qt applications is not a good reason to use KDE imo
You can run Qt applications under any DE
If you're having a kwin problem, consider tweaking your compositor settings, or other display settings, might be helpful
Also, I'm like 99% sure you can change those icons lol
>>54271898
I understand I think, it really is a testbed.
>>54271948
Is that considered a bad thing?
>>54271968
Yes if you are just a user doing other work on your computer.
>>54271935
>You can run Qt applications under any DE
yes but take for example dolphin
if you run it under non qt de it will have icons missing
this does not happen undes lxqt
Gentoo
>>54271985
i think kde applications are picky
qt applicanions not related ot kde can indeed work anywhere
>>54271985
I'm pretty sure if you just install the icon package you'll get the shit you need
>>54271976
Do what works for you, but in my experience I've not had it shit the bed, I'm currently using kubuntu+backports
But Fedora is basically a redhat testbed, and lots of devs (seem to) use that, so I think it's probably worth a try (if you like KDE 5).
I was jsut pleased to find a desktop that I didn't feel like I had to wrestle with to do what I want
>>54272010
i have it and it is in use
kde apps ouside of kde is prone to errors
they expect certain stuff to be there
>>54269572
Kwin is meh, Dolphin is great, but Okular is pretty great too, assuming you've patched Poppler AND Cairo.
>>54271532
Well, they lack quite a bit with some GTK applications. KMail is amazing, though.
>>54272036
KDE != Qt
>>54271985
>LXQt
that shit exists? Lubuntu doesnt even ship it yet, its in development since forever and will stay that way without stable versions
>>54272053
>shit
>>54271985
Is that a new problem with KDE5?
I always have KDE and openbox on my machines, and now, Dolphin is indeed missing icons under openbox. Didnt do so under KDE4
>>54272053
its stable. no errors
it only messed when i chose kwin and the same bug happened as in kde
your measurement of lubuntu is meaningless
>>54272144
>lubuntu
There is no Lubuntu with LXQt,only LXDE. Are you aware of that ?
>>54269550
Opensuse.
>>54272174
how does this make it not stable
there is kubuntu with plasma and its shite. are you aware of that ?
>>54272250
qt is fucking shit qtwebkit-5.6.0 doesnt build on gentoo and i can't use my native browser so now ive been trying to get it fixed for a whole fucking week and here i am posting on g on firefox while the devs fix the ebuild. recaptcha doesnt even work in qtwebkit fuck qt
>>54271823
Fair enough. To me the experience has been the complete opposite. KDE4 feels like a finished product, it just werks, stable with almost no bugs and very smooth. KDE5 on the other hand feels like a beta, with little bugs everywhere, and definitely not as smooth as kde4.
>>54271948
Devvy here, previous poster was a bit off.
>There *are* political motivations with Jonathan Riddell (ex-Kubuntu man, now Neon lead), it's no big secret; it's not the sole reason for the project - more/less it's the spark that really started it. Neon is a giant FUCK YOU to Canonicals licence policy. They want to show that Canonical won't/can't enforce their GPL-breaking legal framework.
>KDE developers are sick of people calling Plasma+friends unstable, when in reality most distros aren't properly implementing it. They want a distro they know can be recommended when you want the latest+most stable Plasma. For example, Ubuntu (and Kubuntu) ship broken Qt packages because Unity+friends can't use newer stuff.
>Dev images *are* a bit of a testbed, user images will ship with only polished stuff. For example, devs are experimenting with OSX-style previews - that's the sort of thing you might see in dev images. Which also means Neon is *not* going to be vanilla, it may diverge as features are folded in. There's also talk that the Visual Design Group may be working on a Neon theme package.
>KDE developers have a useful tool for working on the latest & greatest. Anyone on Plasma might remember how some apps (like Dolphin) "lost" services a couple times; this is because those services were developed against older libraries.
>>54272461
>KDE developers are sick of people calling Plasma+friends unstable, when in reality most distros aren't properly implementing it.
ahahahahahahahahaahah
Yes, it's all the distro's fault.
>KrashDE
>stable
OpenSUSE. Seriously. That said, I'm using it on Arch with OpenRC.
>>54272498
KDE is like a muscle car; if you have an idiot working on them you won't get far. It'll rip itself apart and crash. Too much power and tuned working parts.
Gnome+friends are go-carts; any dunce can get em' working, but that doesn't change the fact you're powered by a lawnmower.
...
Won't it be fun to see what a system assembled by the experts can do?
>>54272040
Really? What are they lacking? When I tried from Qt stuff to GTK I felt the same
>>54272857
>KDE is like a muscle car
ahahahahahahahhahah
Antergos with plasma 5.6.3 here. Life is beautiful.
I hear Mnajaro one is good. And prob kubuntu
>>54269717
Yeah I would definitely opt for opensuse Centos if you want kde
>>54270120
I can't believe how well that dude trolled you
>>54269550
Neon KDE
http://neon.kde.org/
>>54269550
Manjaro KDE. I've been running it for a couple months and haven't ran into an issue yet.
>>54274613
Why not KDE Plasma? Isnt Neon just a test for Plasma?
>>54269550
>KDE
steaming pile of buggy shit
OpenSuse 42.1 Leap is the most stable offering of KDE plasma 5. Tumbleweed is available if you find Leap's packages aren't new enough. There's also Chakra and KaOS although I've not tested them.
Hey KDE-wizards.
Is it possible to use some designs (e.g. Maia) in Kubuntu? I tried the Live-USB but it wasn't possible to add designs there. Now I'm hesitant to install it.
>>54277736
I literally just googled "maia theme kubuntu" and this was the second result, did you try it? https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/425pf1/can_i_install_the_manjaro_maia_theme_on_a/
I want to try out neon do I use the User or Developer one
>>54270153
But that's just linux. On many distros it doesn't work in the first place.
