>Torrent sites have traditionally been very popular, but according to a new report published by piracy tracking outfit MUSO, direct download and streaming sites have taken over.
>“Our data shows a rapid change in piracy behavior, with a large movement away from torrent usage, and growth in web based piracy,” MUSO informs TF.
https://torrentfreak.com/pirates-switch-from-torrents-to-streaming-and-download-sites-160426/
How do we make torrenting great again, /g/?
>>54269117
Streaming books and porn doesn't make sense so I still torrent.
>>54269117
IPFS
yeah streaming sites and direct downloads are the best bet. cause you can use a vpn if you're that scared of honeypot and enjoy everything with no dmca violation.
>>54269117
what do you mean?
torrenting was something people started to use because shitty companies didnt modernize their products/services.
Now they finally pulled the plug out of their ass and made spotify/netflix/hulu etc, the right direction.
The only thing that sucks atm is exclusivity and contracts shit ruining everything, forcing people to buy multiple services to get the entertainment they want.
So im not supporting that and still torrent, hopefully people in that industry learns.
Why would you want to? I'd much rather the spotlight be taken off tormenting. The normies are doing good work.
>>54269301
Not gonna happen. Once you allow one company to do something successful then everyone who has somewhat a big company will follow suit. Just like with DRM in gaming. Steam got popular and now you're gonna get hundreds of shitty DRM platforms to the point where people are not going to continue buying a majority of games.
It happen to me. Now I don't even bother with Windows or games.
>>54269301
You either have multiple services with their own catalogues and fragmentation or single service that has everything but with monopoly pricing.
>>54269330
>Why would you want to?
The more people torrent, the stronger torrenting becomes.
>>54269117
>How do we make torrenting great again
Torcache
>>54269391
Most people just leech from public trackers and scene groups aren't doing it to fill some kind of demand.
>>54269382
no its just a new industry with shitty companies making shitty deals with other shitty companies that fucks it up consumers.
I dont have to go to newsegg to buy a Samsung S7, I can got to bestbuy, amazon or whatever the fuck and buy one there. there are no distributing exculsivity deals in taht industry.
The digital entertainment streaming market is a new market with companies trying to jew the hardest as possible because why should people complain when they had to buy cable before and watch in a specific time.
Normies quit using KAT and other noob trackers like that, it shows in the numbers but in reality all the problem users are ditching torrents for paid services like netflix. This is good, it means torrents become more secure when they aren't exposed to all normies and spread around. Because statistically torrent numbers are going down, it means less honeypots and other anti-piracy bullshit because the losses perceived by media companies are going down. They won't want to spend money on anti-piracy measures since the problem itself has become minuscule to them, it's simply not worth it.
Or so they think.
The thing about torrenting/piracy is people want to assimilate it to stealing, but it's entirely different. It's all about lost potential, if a movie is shared instead of bought, the producing company will not make money even though the product is consumed. But it's not black and white, there's no guarantee that the movie will be bought in the first place, someone might simply choose to not see it. No money changes owner.
So if the media companies have no clue about the real amount of torrenting that goes on, they will be oblivious to it and won't take any actions against it because as far as they are aware, it isn't happening and they aren't losing any money. That's how it is from their perspective. Meanwhile torrenting does happen all the time, but it's not a problem to anyone because there are no repercussions.
>>54269117
But that's good, just like less people using Linux is good.
The less people downloading content the less likely the government caring about it
>>54269549
Not op,never thought of it that way.
>>54269605
Bretty much. Governments and other authorities only care about shit when it gets "on the radar", which is tantamount to "Normalfags think it's AWESOME :D"
Obscurity is freedom.
Like compiling a god tier distro and sharing it with nobody. I likey this idea already
>>54269549
>less people using Linux
It's real in your head
>>54269519
>people want to assimilate it to stealing, but it's entirely different
>there's no guarantee that the movie will be bought in the first place
This is the most retarded reasoning I've seen today.
>>54269675
All the cool kids are injecting linux these days.
>>54269275
Pretty much this. Making torrent not looking like torrent, and incentivized seeding.
>>54269156
Ever been to Pornhub, Xhamster, Redtube?
>>54269117
Make it easier to find obscure shit for public tracker plebs like myself? Idk.
>>54269791
They don't have long scenes and lots of shit gets removed for copyright.
>>54269897
Whoooo the hell needs a long scene lol
>>54269899
People who fap for longer than 30 seconds.
>>54269899
Exactly also... Fucking lulzy
>>54269911
Your actual sex life in it's entirety isn't longer than 30 second's.
You fapping for an hour to prevent dissapointing your first prostitute?
>>54269949
I haven't had sex in almost 5 months. I only started download porn this month. I think it's a bad sign.
>>54269301
>forcing people to buy multiple services to get the entertainment they want
Major part of the problem. I'm not going pay a premium for access to some packaged trash when I'm only interested in 0.5% of the package.
Also, I sometimes want to watch a dub of some movie that is not even recent. To do that, I usually have no convenient way of buying it if I even have any way of buying it at all.
>>54269962
>" I only started to download porn this month"
Okey dokey virgin.
http://www.eporner.com
Has a lot of full length scenes in HD, I download from Emp but this is a great site if you stream.
>>54269117
>piracy tracking outfit MUSO
>Our data shows
Fucking who? How are they they getting reliable data?
>dropped
>>54269989
ITunes is one of the only services that offers true À la carte tv and movie content but their prices are fucking pants on head retarded.
>>54270151
>MUSO
back from google.
>"We build powerful, simple solutions to improve the value of media online. Every day, our trusted technology platform enables thousands of content owners to grow their relationship with online audiences in three stages - protecting their content, measuring global real-time demand and connecting more people directly with licensed content."
they sound like shills.
>>54269676
welcome to pirate logic
>I wasn't gonna buy it anyways
yet you're consuming the product, this is theft
>a-actually I was gonna buy it
why don't you buy it then? this is still theft
>because of some random reason
then why are you consuming the product? that doesn't justify theft
if the argument continues, after this they enter a circle of denial from which they'll never move away and somehow continue trying to justify piracy
>>54269117
>How do we make torrenting great again, /g/?
Make it fully anonymous
encrypt it
make it where you don't need a tracker or site to host .torrent files
>>54271114
>he thinks you can "consume" information
lol
>>54271115
How do you make P2P fully anonymous?
>>54271802
>How do you make P2P fully anonymous?
You don't need to, but you do need to encrypt it.
>>54269117
Haven't they been hunting down PB and KaT for years now?
>>54271860
Encrypted torrenting already exists retard
we build a wall, and the jews will pay
>>54271114
0/10 for making me reply
forget about the stealing aspect since they clearly didn't lose anything
justify how a company can say its losing money from me torrenting when I would never have bought it in the first place
>>54272000
just because they don't lose money doesn't justify you consuming their product without paying
if you want the product, the product has a price, if you pay it you get to consume it, if you don't pay it you don't get to consume it. Doesn't matter what autistic reasons you give for why you're not paying for it while you're consuming it.
This faggot pirate mentality is the mentality of a 5 year old. If you're a pirate just admit you just want free shit without trying to justify it like a faggot
Good, take NSA's attention away from them.
>>54269899
>>54269911
>>54269949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UviHeOoBrpg
>>54272132
were they justified in setting prices of VHS and DVDs when I used to buy this stuff?
>inb4 costs of shipping, packaging and stocking the products
the prices are still the same even though you can direct download now
they were greedy and now they are salty the gravy train dried up
the real pathetic guy is you trying to make me out as the bad guy in this equation for downloading a shitty film in 2 minutes and trashing it 10 minutes into it
>>54272281
they're the guys who make the product and therefore the ones who decide the price of their product
like it or not, dura lex sed lex, no amount of petulant whining changes the fact that you're consuming something, that you should've paid for, for free. Doesn't matter if you trash it 10 minutes it, you're still consuming a product without a right to it
and if someone here is pathetic it's you, bitching and crying trying to justify being a cheapass over something you don't even like, but have no self control to you know, actually not consume or care about it, and go on with your life on something else you actually like and know it's worth the money (even though you'll pirate it anyways because you're just a cheapass)
>>54269117
Fine by me. If it takes the heat away from torrent trackers there won't be so many raids killing our content providers.
>>54272396
im curious
is there some way for me to get a refund for a shit movie I pay for and download?
>>54272484
what you're looking for is looking online if the movie is shit or not
>>54272132
What about network tv shows? They're free to watch, so if i torrent a show that's not available in mh country is it still stealing?
>>54272396
> ...this fuckin brainwashed SJW.
Whew lad, take it easy and pay.
>>54272765
I'd never have gotten into chink cartoons or even consider buying some of them if I did steal them.
Shit, in anime's case you're actually getting a better product than the official releases.
If i've pirated some director's movies or some band's albums and end up liking them alot, I'll usually buy their latest two albums or blurays or whatever.
>>54272765
that's one of the few cases where you can justify piracy without being a faggot about it, I don't know the legality of it though and my guess is it's still illegal since you don't have a license to it
>>54272835
>SJW
do you even know what that word means lad?
You can all start by seeding more you filthy greedy niggers. You don't need to dedicate 100Mbps of your bandwidth to seeding. Hell, cap the upload speed to 8kbps, I don't give a fuck but please fucking seed.
>>54272895
>fuck but please fucking seed
HHAHAHAH...HAAAHAHAHAH!!
Some starter DDL sites. Add more if needed:
2DDL, Tuserie, Yourseie, scene-rls, awesomedl.ru, tehparadox, warezbb, rlsbb, pelismegahd, warezelite.org, adultddl, 0xxx.in
>>54272999
thanks officer
>>54272895
>pls SEED
found the pajeet
no seed, no care
>>54272895
>seeding
Lol not gonna make much of a difference on my shitty 5mbit upload
>>54273349
That's a lot.
>>54273349
Yes it will, hell even 8kbps upload will make a difference. A torrent with a single 8kbps seed is better than a torrent with no seeders at all.
>>54272132
But if i pirate it there's no longer a price tag.
I wasn't going to spend money on buying it either way, I'll either wait for someone else it buy it or simply download it. Either way I didn't pay for it. Would watching it with a friend constitute it was theft on my part? Cause that's essentiality what pirating boils down to for me.
>>54272895
I try to seed a decent amount when it's something obscure or the torrent is like years old. Otherwise, I try to keep my seeding to a minimum.
RIP torrents
Thank god I use private trackers and am a member of /ptg/
We make torrenting better, and keep plebs out.
>>54274479
On the contrary, this means it's less likely we'll see our private trackers getting taken down.
>>54269676
How is it retarded? If I steal, you effectively lose something. You had an object, I stole it, you don't have the object anymore. You lost it.
With piracy, I can't steal anything. Your movie doesn't leave your possession, it's still there. I just made a copy. So right off the bat, you don't lose objects. Now you could argue "but you're watching it without paying, so I lost a sale", but there's no evidence that I would ever pay to watch it in case I couldn't pirate it. I could be broke as fuck, in that case no, I wouldn't shell out 7$ to watch a movie, but I might pirate it. In that case you didn't lose an object and you didn't lose a sale.
>>54271114
>yet you're consuming the product, this is theft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft
>In common usage, theft is the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it.
What property am I depriving Marvel off by pirating Avengers?
>>54272396
>dura lex sed lex
So which direct download sites allow me to download bluray images at 100mbps+ for free?
>mfw i download shit so fast before the next tracker anounce happens i've already stopped the download and the tracker doesn't even know i've downloaded 10's of GB's
It's funny really
>>54278683
None, none at all. The Criterion BDs on Hulu are absolutely abysmal and bitrate starved. Which of course makes sense since most connections in North America cannot support streaming of raw BDs, much less yify-encodes @1080p.
>>54271114
Copyright infringement is not theft.
>>54272895
Come join the private tracker master race anon!
>>54275562
More likely because public trackers are a buffer.
>>54276435
wat
>>54276020
>but there's no evidence that I would ever pay to watch it in case I couldn't pirate it
Most people steal shit BECAUSE they wouldn't otherwise pay for it, holy fuck. How did you even live this long given your brain problems?
>>54271114
>this is theft
stopped reading there
welcome to anti-pirate logic
>not using DDL
>>54272895
I have 12kbps upload
Please kill me
>>54285635
This. But be careful.
No surprise, public trackers are wastelands now and youtube videos about kodi addons get several millions of views.
Piracy as a whole is also down because legal alternatives have finally surpassed the convenience of piracy.
>>54286471
>legal alternatives have finally surpassed the convenience of piracy.
uh no. not even close. even all the streaming services combined can't beat piracy.
>>54269117
By making storage great again.
We need a decentralized .torrent browser that cant be raided by the FBI. Imagine something like the bitcoin tracker that obfuscated itself through internet traffic, so as to not be condeming. But allows the wielder to browse torrents, comment, rate, flag, tag, and upload new ones to the crypto cloud.
>tfw you're away from this torrent bullshit and you're using ddl and xdcc
>>54269117
Web based privacy was the past wtf are you on about OP ? 10 years ago I literally downloaded every single game/application from web as parts - warez websites.
>>54286535
Most people don't like eating shit all the time, weeb.
>make torrenting great again
>wanting normies to stick around
Why mate? Let them btfo.
>>54287208
The more people torrent, the butter, dumbfuck.
>>54287729
Removing normies from the torrent scene does no harm - obscure torrents with 2-3 seeds will keep their 2-3 seeds, and popular torrents will have a higher rate of quality seeders, improving download speed and reliability.
This isn't like the days of old where extremely unbalanced connections meant you had to have dozens of seeds going at once just to make a dent in your maximum connection speed.
>>54271417
How can you consume a physical CD?
>2016
>streaming
streaming is old anti-piracy technology. very much like drm, it was created as a way to restrict people from downloading digital copies.
but back in the 90's everybody laughed at streaming sites, such as mp3locker, because no one saw any reason to stream anything
>diskspace was cheap and no longer an issue
>cheap broadband made downloading easy
>the pirate sites where social hubs
>a digital copy is superior to streaming
>>54288195
with ketchup
>>54271114
Yes it's theft and I love to steal ok? now fuck off with your useless opinions
>>54287729
You have absolutely nothing to back that up.
http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=122297481
Fuck this thread
>>54287208
Exactly, this is a good thing. The normies leaving means it takes pirating out of the media spot light and less will pursue to end it. It's needs to go back to being obscure and unknown. You should be thankful of the cucks paying their monthly subscriptions to listen to the latest shitty pop music or hollywood garbage.
>>54286346
No we love you, please keep seeding. Just please seed. Your upload may be slow but together we can seed torrents are batshit fast rates. Just 10 seeders at 12kbps means 120kbps download speed. Even if you are the only seeder it's still 100x better than a dead torrent.
Thank you anon, we love you seriously.
>>54283693
I don't understand how you're misunderstanding this.
If there wasn't a way to pirate it, it would leave me with 2 options:
A) Pay for it and see it
B) Don't pay for it, don't see it
It's not like being homeless and not being afford to buy bread. I can afford to buy all the movies, watch them in theaters and so on, but if it came down to it, I wouldn't PAY to see something like the walking dead. If the options were to pay for it or not to see it, I would choose simply not to see it, because quite frankly it's not that good.
But I can torrent it, so I torrented it. But I wouldn't go out of my way to pay for it, if there were no torrents I'd just watch something else.
Get it now?
