Post what you're reading and what we should all be reading.
I read pic related for a course last January. 10/10 would recommend.
Good idea for a thread, OP. My guess is it won't last long though.
But in case it does, pic related includes my initial recommendations.
poorfag here. can't afford to read anything that isn't composed of electric impulses.
>>54266812
I'm sure you can find epubs of all of the books on this thread so far, anon.
>>54266812
http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki/Obtaining_textbooks
>>54266812
LITERALLY >>54266876
NO EXCUSES ANYMORE
>>54266532
>Lawrence Lessig
MUH NIGGA
>>54266446
Taossa by dowd et al
Metasploit unleashed
>>54266446
there's a humble indie bundle going on for that book, as well as a bunch of others. 15bux for a lot of good info.
humblebundle com/books/no-starch-hacking-books
>>54267273
His overall politics are very, very different than mine, but on cyber stuff we have a good deal of overlap.
It was also through his book Code (in the picture above) that I was introduced to Julian Dibbell's "My Tiny Life," which I also enjoyed quite a bit (and would recommend to /g/ as well).
My todo list is quite long...
>>54266446
There is a pay what you want bundle being sold that includes that book: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/no-starch-hacking-books
i asked this a few threads ago but i didnt get a clear answer
is this worth getting if i dont know anything about how processors work and the most i know about 6502 assembly is LDA and STA?
OP is that book any good? I was thinking of getting it but bought Black Hat Python instead.
So far (three chapters in) it's absolutely garbage.
Why is it so hard to learn some basic hacking shit? I just want to do some simple things like install a rootkit on a USB drive or attack computers over a network.
Is it a goddamned secret or something?
Someone please point me in the right direction.
>>54268803
For example how do you want to make a rootkit without knowledge about kernels?
>>54268853
Hacking takes a lot of knowledge
>>54268803
You don't want to be a hacker, you want to be a script kiddie.
Yes, that's a big differnce.
Script Kiddie:
>bush button
>Imma chargin' malaysia
>damage done
>lol
Hacker is kind of an umbrella term (pentester, phreaker, spoofer, ..) but generally you'll need:
>Computer Skills (being decent in Linux, general plattform knowledge, being able to set up network parameters, ..)
>Programming Skills (Python, Bash and C are mandatory, a little Assembly or PERL wouldn't hurt either)
>Hardware Technologies (networking skills, wireless technologies)
>Web technologies (how to redirect traffic)
>Database skills (SQL injections and so on)
>Security concepts (Intrusion Detection Systems, at least some basics in cryptography and forensics)
>thinking creative, meeting other like-minded folks, getting new idea, trying out new stuff, being persistent
So you don't have to know all this stuff inside out and you don't get decent in one week. But generally this is what you should aim for to learn in the next year.
If you don't want to, you won't be a hacker, it's as simple as that.
>>54269204
That was just one example from a list that you need to know for doing something related to hacking
>>54266446
I liked this one
Got these two from uni library, I fell for both the /g/ meme as well as my prof's meme
>>54269648
Rip
>>54270978
Forgot pix
Can anyone explain to me what's the point of those epub abominations? Books in that format have so fucked up format that it makes it literally unreadable. Add pictures that don't scale well and you get total shitfest
Who thought epubs are a good idea?
>>54266812
Go to the library. I read the OP's book from the library
>>54268853
>For example how do you want to make a rootkit without knowledge about kernels?
You don't?
I really hope this is b8
>>54268853
>>54271153
OPps misread post.
Thought it was that p;oster asking how do you make one a fucking kernel module without knowledge of kernels. Kek
>>54268803
If you just wan to know the basics, read 'The hacker playbook' it's great and I plan on getting the 2nd one
>>54268803
>So far (three chapters in) it's absolutely garbage.
By that way that book and NoStarch books in general are great, you're just a shitty retard. Don't blame the books
>>54271235
True pdf where?
>>54271274
don't know, I bought it.
It's worth it and perfect for noobs
Are you guys in high school? How do you have time to read books?
>>54272046
How much do you work? 40hr/wk leaves a decent amount of free time. Stay off 4chan, you'll find much more free time
>>54272046
If you're on your computer a lot, leave it close by and pick it up every now and then
What's better: Pragmatic Programmer or Code Complete 2.0? They seem pretty similar at first glance. Did they age well?
>>54267273
ITT: He should have been Obama's Supreme Court nominee.
>>54272046
What a sad life you must lead
![1420500175412[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/l57AJhE.jpg "1420500175412[1].jpg")
also pic rel since OP forgot
>>54273629
If someone read all these books with full understanding, how good of a programmer would he become?
It seems to be really hard to find a book with syntax highlighting. Why are there so few of them?
>>54273969
I read a lot of books like that and tried to apply everything I learned in my daily job, but I've always reverted quickly to copypasting from stackoverflow because of deadlines and forgot everything I learned after a few months
bump
>>54266532
The reddit Berniecuck starter pack.
>>54270990
Woah, that's to extreme for me.
>>54268803
>attack computers over a network
you find exploits in the code of a program that allow you to execute malicious code on the target. Most of the time these kind of exploits work on memory allocation errors that lead to your normal input being executed as machine code.
When you are just trying to exploit old software with known bugs, you use packet scanning software to find out network services and in the best scenario their software version. If you find outdated software and know of an exploit affecting it then you can try using it to execute your code (e.g. rootkit) on the machine.
The Metasploit framework documents exploits and allows you to rapidly find and utilize vulnerabilities. It is primarily meant for penetration testers to scan corporate networks, but it can obviously be used for malicious purposes too.
>>54276477
Also forgot to mention that it is never that easy, computers nowadays come with several different technologies to prevent arbitrary code execution and literally everything has a firewall that makes it hard for remote addresses to scan and connect to targets.
>>54268063
>UML
Gross .desu .senpai
>>54268803
>OP is that book any good? I was thinking of getting it but bought Black Hat Python instead.
I like it because it really emphasizes why higher level language techniques won't work. I wish it covered countermeasures more, but the included demo disk is Ubuntu 7.04 (on purpose so you can practice exploits - a lot of the countermeasures for buffer overflows don't show up until at least Ubuntu 9.04).
>>54269204
Literally this. Which is why I love OP's book because it emphasizes the parts of C that need to be paid attention to in order to mitigate attacks and build stable low level programs.
>>54271165
>how do you make one a fucking kernel module without knowledge of kernels. Kek
1337 keks
>>54273629
>Code Complete
[VOMITING INTENSIFIES]
>>54276669
Using the second edition for a class right now. 8/10 good book but some of the examples are a little hard to follow.
any assembly books recommendations?
>>54276799
inb4 someone recommends to read the Intel CPU manuals
>>54273969
>spending two years reading book
>whoa I'm such a good programmer!
>other guy spend two years learning two new languages, make 20 projects
>other guy gets insights by practice and job offers
>b-but muh book knowledge!
>>54266812
I read 90% of my tech related books from the library, I only buy the good ones
>>54276799
>http://www.atmel.com/images/atmel-0856-avr-instruction-set-manual.pdf
>>54276924
The only reason I read one was because one of my school's alum is a BIOS programmer.
>>54266876
Whats the best way to read ebooks? even with a dual monitor setup it hurts my eyes and i find myself getting distracted easily. is a kindle worth??
>>54266532
>"i'm a consumerist but pretend to know tech" reading list
>>54266446
fucking stop with the subreddits /g/
>>54274142
finally a properly aesthetic cover
>>54266446
Shit wait do you go to rpi?
>>54277241
what?
>>54273629
>The pragmatic programmer
One of the best books on practical, as in use-every-day, programming.
Going to hijack the thread for a minute as it's relevant to the topic...
What's a solid back-lit e-reader at a budget price? Really want one to load up with a load of tech books.
No walled gardens, I want something that's easy to put my own content onto.
>>54276927
>spending two years reading book
Do you read each word out loud?
>>54277753
Get a kobo. You can throw any old .pdf/.epub/etc. on and it'll work. Download the top 100 science fiction books according to [spoiler]Reddit[/spoiler] pack and you're set for months of reading.
>>54268063
What's your progress so far?
>>54278286
he missed the train for microSD kobo devices tho
>>54281401
Wait, do they not make those anymore?
>>54281520
nah homie the new ones don't have microSD
>>54268144
A dude answered you in that thread.
I know nothing of it though.
>>54272172
Clean Code is the best one.
Pragmatic Programmer would be second place, though.
>>54273969
Just reading the books? Probably not that great. Coding is like painting or learning an instrument. You can read about it all day, but you don't learn how to do it until you actually sit down and do it. Essentially, just write about 100000 lines of shitty code, then you might be able to write a couple lines of alright code. If you're lucky.
>>54278286
I agree. I dont have an ebook reader but if I were to ever get one, it would be a Kobo.
kobo reads mobi too
Fuck that humble bundle looks pretty baller
>>54277988
Is I am a strange loop on the same level as Godel, Escher, Bach?
![3c377d273dd17364_barbie.xxxlarge[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1wD4zlp.jpg "3c377d273dd17364_barbie.xxxlarge[1].jpg")
>>54274070
>>54282155
The chapter What is It Like to Be a Strange Loop? is pretty cool makes me wish I could program AI with some of things mentioned
>>54266446
I'm reading pic related, great book would recommend
>>54276477
You don't find exploits, you find vulnerabilities
This shit triggers me
>>54266446
OP I have the 1st edition, read it a lot, is it worth taking a look at the 2nd edition?
>>54284884
Probably not. You might get some more stuff on countermeasures, but probably not much.
I bought the bundle and zipped them up. What service would /g/ recommend I upload them to, to share the love?
>>54285026
mega
>>54285026
Upload to the ftp, senpai
>>54268097
Anyone who buys that is now on ten lists
>>54285045
I second this
>>54270990
SICP is good because Lambda calculus and LISP. Every coder should Lambda calculus and LISP just not for daily use.
>>54285218
Yeah, I thought about buying it but I'd rather not end up on an NSA watch list. I'll just wait for someone to upload the bundle here.
>>54275733
enjoy getting cucked by the NSA
>>54285045
>>54285075
>>54285225
Uploading now /g/ents. I'm an Ausfag so it's taking half a century.
>>54285239
Thanks, how big is the zip?
>>54285239
Mega or /g/ ftp?
>>54285249
145Mb
>>54285278
Mega because the ftp timed out for me.
>>54285298
ETA?
>>54285306
About 3 minutes. Give or take.
Enjoy /g/entlemen.
http://bit dot ly/24odqWJ
>>54285431
>http://bit dot ly/24odqWJ
BASED
Can someone upload the ISO from Art of Exploitation to mega or something like that? Can't torrent anything on my campus network.
>>54285431
downloading, thanks. please tell me it won't turn out to be amputee porn
>>54285462
It's legit anon.
>>54285431
Thanks mate!
everything in this thread lainchan(dot orgy)/cyb/res/28617.html (no mods i didnt come here to advertise)
>>54276669
Modern Operating Systems by Tanenbaum is better
>>54285457
Get a VPN faggot
>>54281611
the most i got is a description of the 6502 processor in that thread
If you want to learn Python and hacking check out the Violent Python
>>54276799
modern x86 assembly by kusswurm looks good and so does introduction to 64 bit assembly by seyfarth. there was another book that was thrown around here, but i can't remember the name.
>>54267571
Are these physical or ebooks?
>>54285945
ebooks, of course.
>>54285945
You wouldn't download a car.
>>54277893
You understand that for example CLRS has 1300 pages of dense technical language and close to thousand exercises?
Properly reading this whole book will take you a long time.
>>54282390
So you're saying you're comfortable with code having the same color as the normal text? Evidently, you've never read more than 500 pages of anything.
>>54266532
snow crash was pretty good
>>54285514
>Tanenbaum
All of them are.
>>54277054
Just get a cheap pad, works for me.
>>54266446
Found this fantastic guide to anyone who wants to get into the Cyber field.
www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a545300.pdf
Seriously this is the GOAT guide.
>>54288479
>Special Forces candidates are weeded out in the “log pit,” where they roll back and forth for long periods of time. A candidate becomes physically ill during the process and is hazed by the instructor. While these assessment techniques may have proven effective for selecting Green Berets, this approach would fail when selecting the most capable cyber warriors
Such wisdom.
>>54288664
I think the point that's being made is that the standard selection criteria won't fit.
> We feel obliged to add a caveat to our mention of certifications. Certifications, no matter how hard to obtain, are not an endstate. The same is true for a college degree. Human resources personnel love to use certifications and degrees as screening criteria for hiring decisions because it makes their job easier.
>However, a college degree nor a set of certifications are a guarantee of success, particularly in cyber security where many great people are self-taught. We encourage you to look holistically at each individual before making a hiring decision, otherwise the larger bureaucracy of the US Government may force hiring of the wrong people.
>>54277064
Technical manuals and language guides are boring, though, anon, and are specific to the particular skill/project you're working on. There is nothing wrong with getting some more general/historical knowledge as well.
>>54288664
Strange that you pulled that line from a different document.
>>54288975
You ever think to yourself that maybe someone was listening to you or watching what you type on screen and then decide to let them know that you know they're watching?
I think that just happened with you, anon. And, no, I am not that poster.
>>54289081
I do.
But I'm not sure what or who that someone might be trying to say, because I've certainly never been in a log pit.
I've been reading The Cathedral and the Bazaar, and it's a bit of a grind. I just finished Homesteading the Noosphere, and I feel none the wiser. Is there supposed to be some moment of enlightenment, did I fall for a meme, or does this take some kind of deep meditation to get it?
>>54289334
Maybe the point was for you to realize that there is a living, breathing, thinking person on the other end of that argument. And maybe its so you know that they dont make you sift through logs. They give you physical access, you take credentials and compare them to tables of "flagged for suspicious" on their compendium of lists.
>>54269325
And mad searching skills.
>>54289913
You are really creeping me out anon.
Though I suppose you can't post .mil addresses on 4chan without flagging up.
You sure are extrapolating a lot from a two word post.
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/no-starch-hacking-books
>>54266446
>tech illiterate /v/ winfags
>capable of reading books
Good idea for a thread but it won't last long. Have a bump.
>>54292303
It's been up for 2 days tho?
>>54292486
>not understanding how /topic/ threads work
One thread being up for a long time isn't a good thing; in fact, it's the opposite.
>>54269325
hacker != cracker
>>54292140
Literally read the thread anon
>>54276669
I have the 8th edition being used to raise my monitor atm. Is it worth actually reading?
>>54275733
>cuck
If I went the rest of my life without ever seeing these words again it'd be too soon
just read :
Book of PF 3th edition
now reading :
computer networks by tanenbaum
>>54285232
>murica land of freedum
>>54285431
You are a champion of the people.
