Left or right?
The price is pretty much the same
>>54258684
Right
>>54258684
Left one is faster.
Always HGST.
Neither, just use cloud storage.
get ssd
same reasons
>>54258684
Left
>>54258757
Yeah because 3TB SSD are $120
Left. I have that exact drive and it is fantastic. HGST always.
It shouldn't even be a question.
Just buy the fucking HGST.
>>54258684
HGST. Not even a question. Unbeatable reliability despite being acquired by WD.
>>54258757
Are you fucking dumb? Those hdds are specifically for storage, it even says "NAS" on the fucking box.
Get the fuck out of /g/ you /v/eddit retard.
I'm tired of tech illiterates giving advice on this board.
>>54258824
>there are hdds that are not for storage
>>54258824
Aren't all hard drives made for storage? You sound retarded
>>54258824
Yeah, I love using my HDD as a graphics card.
Only normies buy storage HDDs.
It doesnt matter it is the same company just different sticker stuck to item.
>>54258684
buy a ssd
>>54258684
use usb thumb drives in raid 0
d e a t h s t a r
What happens if you cover the hole
>>54259250
The hamster turning the plates will suffocate.
Smells terrible trust me.
>>54259250
why do they put a smiley face next to the warning its like they are tempting me
>>54259250
Impregnation, usually
>>54259250
You get a buildup of pressure and premature failure. Hot air expands. HDDs heat up. There is empty space inside an HDD. There are delicate platters spinning very very fast inside an HDD.
>>54259250
It would be very painful
>>54258883
shhhhh..... don't tell 'em we can do that.
>>54259250
that hole is for adding coolant/lubricant.
you can also put cleaning fluid in there too keep the platters shiny.
>>54259657 <this guy is one of them scientist. do not trust anything that he says. You're not fooling anyone, Sheldon Cooper!
>>54258684
Left is 7200 rpm
Right is 5400
Left has some of highest reliability you can get
Left in a heartbeat
>>54259988
For you
>>54258684
WD Reds for storage, stuff you will never touch, also for NAS.
HGST if you will use the data on the HDD.
>>54258684
Left is a bit more reliable but unless there's a 24 hour load they will both be the same
Are the HDD prices waiting for SSD to be 1:1 to start droping prices?
I bought one of those like 6 years ago and it was the same price
Why fuck people keep buying them just to feed the happy merchant?
>>54262636
Probably not soon.
They are a luxury and will be for a long time, they are too superior to HDDs, selling them for cheap would be stupid.
They should make cheap slow SSDs with storage in mind.
>>54260184
>deathstars
>highest reliability
wew lad
>>54258684
Left is faster and in theory more reliable, you also not fall into buying buzzwords as "NAS drive"
>>54262689
>using the deathstar meme from 2003
>literally information from more than a decade ago
Why the fuck do you idiots keep going for 3 tb drives? Leave that garbage alone you fucktards.
>>54263172
What the fuck is wrong with 3TB drives, they are the best ones in storage/price ratio
>>54262689
They do have very high reliability. They're owned and made by WD now. Get with the times faggot.
>>54258684
OP I've got 5 of the ones on the right in my NAS and haven't run into any issues with them at all so far. If you're looking for a low-powered NAS/server drive, get the WD Red. Especially if it's just a media or file server.
If performance is more your concern, get the one on the left, but it will have a higher power draw and if you're just using it for file and/or media server, you won't really notice a performance benefit. But using it for something like a remote rendering storage or something - you'd probably find a good use for the extra speed.
>>54262728
They're both NAS oriented drives, dumbass. There's also nothing buzzword about them - see how well your consumer drive fairs in a RAID array when one of them runs into error correction and doesn't have TLER in the HDD firmware.
Have fun rebuilding your RAID array.
Why would a hkme user buy NAS stuff
Just go with the cheapest seagate
>>54258684
I have the one on the left in my server. Pretty fast, though HGST has always been kinda loud for me during write operations.
You also have to remember that a WD Red (regular, not Pro) is just a WD green with TLER enabled for RAID support. So it's shit. Go with HGST.
>>54263749
reliability. or lack thereof. the storage/price ratio goes out the window when you need to replace the drive. since their launch, drives of that size have proven to be the worst in terms of reliability. wd is the worst in that size, but not by much. just get 2 or 4 tb. forget 3 tb ever existed.
>>54265111
>have proven to be the worst in terms of reliability.
Citation needed
>>54258684
>use hitachi drives pulled from xbox
>the break like clockwork
>average life is about 1 year of use
>click of death starts on every single one of them
>>54258757
>using ssd for general storage
>not just your OS and a few other key programs
>yfw nobody remembers IBM Deskstar drives
>yfw nobody remembers where HGST got their HDD technology
>>54265652
your mom gave me her pussy technology last night faggot
>>54265426
>>54265652
>stuff that literally happened over a decade ago
>>54265683
>building on a faulty foundation
>>54265690
Just like how Intel has built on top of the P6
>>54265713
>implying the P6 isn't flawless
>>54258684
>tfw you missed out on the $89 4tb HGST
Kill me pham
>>54258727
You do realize HGST is just rebranded Western Digital NAS drives right?
>>54265825
Sure, but that doesn't mean both drives are the same. The WD red pictured is shit, even for NAS usage.
>>54265196
what, are you so new that you don't know to stay away from 3TB drives?
2 and 4TB drives are the only thing worth buying right now for mass storage.
the ideal consumer system has a 'big enough' SSD and a 4TB 7200 rpm, 2TB 7200 rpm if you don't need as much. 1TB 7200 rpm drives cost as much as going out to eat and that's the bare minimum.
Worked at WD.
Get hgst drive. Hgst always better tech
>>54265914
No, you're referring to Seagate's high failure rate specifically for their 3TB line. Other brands lasted just as long as their 2/4 variants.
>>54265914
>paying just as much for a SSD as a good sized HDD and getting much less space for not a huge improvement
lel
SSD is such a fucking placebo pile of shit.
>>54266259
>le placebo meme
>>54265683
What the fuck are you talking about?
I just had to abandon another one of those drives three weeks ago because it was clicking all damn day, and I would have to wack it to get it to boot up.
>>54266404
Are you using a IBM HDD in 2016?
whichever one isn't a seagate. I had a 5tb drive from seagate die a couple days ago. It lasted 3 months. All that money gone... Now I'm back to having 128GB
>>54266227
no shit that's what i'm referring to, that's what most 3TB drives sold are. they're cheaper. people buy them more. and they fail more. gotta get rid of them somehow.
>>54266259
fuck off SSD hater, the performance is real and you just won't accept it.
>>54260144
Idunno, i mean >>54259657 isnt a skeleton so he can be trusted. I mean hes not really a skeleton, r-r-right?
>>54266655
>no shit
Yeah, and you completely ignored that in longevity tests, other brands were fine. The Seagate 3TB models failed significantly faster than the other brands. The rest of their hard drives were fine, the 3TB models were notoriously failure-ridden.
>>54266418
read my fucking post, I said I was jacking hitachies (and seagates) out of xboxs.
>use 5 2TB WD Reds since like 2013 in a RAID 5 config
>still works fine
I don't understand why you guys are so polarizing. Just because something better exists doesn't automatically make everything else shit.
>>54258684
Left
>>54266902
did you even fucking read the thread?
just stay away from that 3TB shit.
fuck.
Right
desktar are reliable as fuck, more than 3 years running almost nonstop (only has been shutdown like 30 times) zero problems unlike my two 1 year old Seagate barracuda and WD blue.
Cons, they can make a lot of sound and get really hot.
they are perfect for data hoarding.
>>54258684
LEFT
Left because Japan
Always WD
>>54258684
>WD>>>> everything
>>54258684
>HGST
>WD
Not buying cheaper/better Seagate
>>54258684
HGST. I own 4x4tb reds myself a d they are pretty meme worthy. Yes they're very quiet and run cool but they're essentially overpriced green drives with a few firmware tweaks.
>buy $250 1TB SSD, put in external case for backup drive
>never fails
>doesn't need external power
>silent
>portable
>can drop it while running no shits given
how does it feel like living in the past?
>>54258684
HGST. It's owned by WD but it's a separate division. They got much better production technology and better quality control.
>>54268854
like $100 richer
>>54259284
>>54259340
>>54258797
What do you need 3TB of storage space for?
Anime? Porn?
Uncultured swine. Get a job and get laid, faggot.
>>54268767
Every Seagate I had died in less than 5 years.
>>54268854
>detes itself if not connected to power after a few weeks
>>54268912
>mfw bought 4x1.5tb Seagate refurbs
>striped the fuck out of them as a steam folder and fucking around
>three die within a few weeks
>last one has worked for about 4 years
That was fun
Seagate are absolute shit.
That said i cant wait for HDD's to get totally replaced by SSD's
HDD's are so fucking slow and unreliable.
>>54268929
>pulling things out of your ass
When is graphene storage coming? I'm sick of juggling drives, trying to back up everything and splitting my shit between partitions. No I won't go JBOD.
>>54268983
What do you NEETs need all that storage for?
I have a single 1TB drive to back up both my PC and Laptop and another one for animu and movies and shit.
>>54269023
pron
I have full rips of sites that closed down circa 2008 that didn't end up on emporium or pornolab and are pretty much lost at this point.
Also posting from work.
>>54268983
Just get a 6tb drive or two to replace most of those.
>>54269023
Backups for several machines, a few terabytes of TV series and films and several terabytes of raw files.
Everything is doubled up so you quickly run out of space.
>>54259250
It will explode if you take it on an aeroplane.
>>54268943
>>54268912
I don't get this meme.
I own a Cybercafe for almost 10 years now with 60 PC units and not a single of my seagate died.
Been asking the same question since 4 years ago and no one ever answer my question.
HGST
Can someone post failure rates of that drives
>>54269103
>He fell for the webmin meme
>>54268912
>3Tb ones are literally the ones with less failure rate
Where is the avoid 3TB drives meme anon?
>>54269782
What's wrong with it? It does everything I need, which isn't a lot.
>>54269782
>he fell for the webmin is a meme meme
>>54258684
WD Reds are trash. Had the 2TB version, died with less than a year power on time, got it replaced under warranty and the new drive only lasted for about six months, dying exactly a month after the warranty ended.
>>54270291
Brutal senpai. I have 4x4tb WD red of which two have about 15k power on time and so far they're good, albeit slow.
Are the 2tb more likely to fail? I don't think I've come across any statistics for reds.
>>54265825
False, HGST drives are manufactured on former Hitachi production lines and have nothing to do with Western Digital products
>>54258684
Deskstar NAS every time
WD reds are just mainstream drives (blues) with modified firmware
>>54270549
I thought they were greens with modified firmware. Either way you're over paying.
>>54270571
Yeah but the green line is gone, Red green blue it's all the same shite
WD Enterprise > HGST consumer > WD black > shite (blues, reds, purples, shitgates)
>>54270838
>the TLER (Time Limited Error Recovery) feature on Western Digital RAID Edition EIDE and Serial ATA hard drives cannot be disabled.
dropped
>>54265849
Got any source or proof for that?
Helium or Air?
>>54268906
No, for backing up music and forbidden MIT lectures. Stop projecting.
>>54270939
the better question is deskstar or ultrastar
>>54271331
Depends on your needs.
>>54270939
Air.
Helium drives will fail sooner than air as they can't vent.
That's why they're usually pushed toward to enterprise cold storage, replacement is expected.
>>54269023
Among other things, I have almost 150 GB of /tg/ stuff - and that's just PDFs. Obviously I could probably delete 90% of that since I'll never use those(and redownloading the ones I do end up needing after all would be a fairly simple matter), but why bother when storage is cheap.
>>54271331
W8, ultrastar is not a karaoke program?
>>54270838
I got a black already. Is it better quality than red?
>>54270496
>>54258824
THIS!
>>54272997
Doesn't really mean shit in today's world. Just look at Seagate/Samsung.
You can find Samsung Spinpoints in Seagate Portable externals and Seagate Barracudas in Samsung desktop externals. Samsung Spinpoints are still made in Samsung's old factories, just with a Seagate sticker label.
HGST factories are still run by the HGST subgroup and WD hasn't really made any effort to swap their production lines over to those factories because retooling the factories in a declining HDD market makes no fucking sense.
>>54259988
You're a big drive
