Any Botnet 10 users here? If so, why haven't you moved to Linux?
My reason: To dumb to install Linux in fear of whipping my SSD.
I have no reason to switch and no reason to not switch.
Remote Desktop Connection Manager
Visual Studio
>>54247751
Because I'm not paranoid and Linux is shit.
need to get creative work done
>muh surface book
In all seriousness, this thing is amazing. That and my work uses visual studio
>>54247751
Name one useful thing I can't do on Windows 10 that I can only do on Linux OP. I'm waiting.
I used various flavours of Linux before buying a Surface Pro 3 with Windows 8. I still have a Linux machine and an iMac but I love Windows 10 the most out of all of them.
>>54247839
I wasn't shitting on Windows. But /g/ seems to like Linux.
I messed around with Linux years ago, it's great when you take the time customize the hell out of it but now I just don't care.
>>54247751
I just switched. It's nice and if you install a user friendly distro (*buntu, fedora etc) than it's pretty straightforward and you can't fuck it up.
Honestly if you haven't already switched than botnet is not a large concern for you. Do you have any other reason to go to linux?
>>54247751
I use both
>>54247751
I got Ubuntu dualboot on my SSD, but it lacks the software I need on my desktop and got OSX on my work laptop. Would love just to go Hackintosh on desktop too but I had to be a jew with AMD cpu.
I enjoy playing games
wine blows more cock than a vegas hooker
>>54247874
Your question was
>Any Botnet 10 users here? If so, why haven't you moved to Linux?
I gave a perfectly good answer.
Games. Good luck running any game made less than 10 years ago on Linux
because i dont want to fight my fucking os when i do normal shit. and if i need linux i will use a vm
Windows for home use, work and games
Linux for servers.
>>54247911
Also I've always got my bash terminal now
Games. Good luck playing a game less than 10 years old on Linux
>Windows
All options for software development
All options for graphics related
All options for gaming
All important options for IT and servers and shits
>Linux
Some software dev
Some shit graphics apps
Few games
Some IT apps
+ bonus +
Good luck configuring everything, probably going to take you forever, might as well install windows
>>54247751
Open VirtualBox and try the Debian netinstall in it. You'll see that it's easy and you'll be able to use the system before installing it in bare metal.
>>54248022
>Windows
All options for software development
All options for graphics related
All options for gaming
All important options for IT and servers and shits
>Linux
All options for software development
All options for graphics related
All options for gaming
All important options for IT and servers and shits
+ bonus +
Good luck configuring everything, probably going to take you forever, might as well install windows
SAPGUI for Java doesn't support certain transactions, and SAP supports my entire occupation.
Muh video games.
My spending less time fighting the OS and more time using it.
>>54248070
>All options for gaming
So I can fire up Rainbow Six Siege on a Linux machine?
>>54248072 here
That being said, performance wise, Linux/Unix flavors BTFO Windows for SAP usage. Windows has automatic memory management for SAP but that's about the main advantage (well, easier single-sign on as well).
Both IBM DB2 and Oracle outperform MSSQL handily as well (when installed on non-Windows OS).
>>54247918
nice meme
>>54247751
only have it on my craptop
wish I hadn't done the switch on it but oh well
desktop is win7
as for why no linux?
can't be arsed
because I do work on my PC
I just use VirtualBox on Windows 10 Enterprise
>any distro I want
>16gb RAM starting
>>54247839
I'm curious exactly what it is that you want to do on Windows 10 that you can't do on Linux.
Don't get me wrong, there are things. AutoCAD comes to mind. So does Photoshop. But it isn't exactly a huge portion of the population that needs to use those "industry standard" programs in order to make a living.
>>54249827
Visual Studio, MS Office
I use both at least weekly.
No reason to use Linux when Win10 with Classic Shell and Grid Move is the best OS available.
I pretty much only use Linux with an Xubuntu chroot on my Chromebook, and with a VM for testing a few things for work.
The only real use-case I have for Linux is on low resource hardware.
>>54249848
You can't use those on Windows 7? You need Windows 10? (I realized I moved goal posts there, btw. Not attacking, just curious)
Also, Google docs and Libre Office both do the job of handling office docs.
As for Visual Studios, I'll grant you that necessitates Windows, so long as you are actually seeing money for using it, and understand your choice to stick with Windows in that event. But, moving goal posts again, is there a reason that necessitates 10 specifically?
>>54247802
By now it's paranoid to think you're not tracked. How delusional.
>>54249889
Windows 7 is deprecated.
>Also, Google docs and Libre Office both do the job of handling office docs.
They're shit and they mangle .docx. Also, editing in a browser is a meme.
10 is just the latest edition of Windows so I don't have any compatiblity issues.
10 is faster than Windows 7 so there is no reason to use Windows 7.
>>54247751
I use both and you should kill yourself. Remember, down the road, not across the street with the razor.
>>54249914
>Also, editing in a browser is a meme.
Except that it's not. I use it 40 hours per week for work.
>so there is no reason to use Windows 7.
Are you sure that's your stance? There's literally no reason whatsoever for anyone anywhere to not have 10 instead of 7?
It seems like an absolute, and I can think of plenty of reasons not to, from privacy concerns to the limitations of some people's hardware, to compatibility issues for some people.
>>54249889
>Also, Google docs and Libre Office both do the job of handling office docs.
It's hilarious to me that this is what people actually think.
No, Google Docs and Libre Office aren't capable of handling linked sheets with all sorts of VB running in the background.
Docs, Libre Office, and Open Office are perfectly acceptable replacements for students and people that want to make bake sale flyers for the local Rotary Club.
They aren't anywhere close to replacing MSOffice in the workplace.
Same goes for Linux - way too much internal tooling that is Windows only, either VBA or C#.
And no, you can't use Windows 7 in any business that requires security audits or adhering to a security standard. Pretty much every industry security standard in the world requires using an OS "that receives regular security updates and patches" and mandates installing them within 30-90 days of release.
Windows 7 can't be used in tons of places because it breaks certification or industry compliance standards because it is past the Windows EOL.
>>54248088
You can't even find enough software and the ones that are alternatives are shitty.
It's too much work to get something working on Linux.
>>54249948
Lmao this guy tries to shill 7, for no reason - but he shills 7 he insists that it's the way to go.
>>54249948
>I use it 40 hours per week for work.
You are a memer. I have used it for extended periods too and its crap. The latency is bullshit.
>from privacy concerns
I'm not a retard who believes memes, so this is a non-issue.
> limitations of some people's hardware, to compatibility issues for some people.
You're moving the goalposts again. We are talking about my needs, not other people's needs.
Windows 10 > All other desktop operating systems
>>54249948
>>from privacy concerns
Unfounded nonsense that no one actually cares about except bloggers.
>> the limitations of some people's hardware
Win10 runs better than Win7 or 8.
>to compatibility issues for some people
What compatibility issues would those be?
You're advocating using an unsupported and depreciated 7 year old OS. The only compatibility issues are forward, not backward - Windows pretty much supports everything from the old iterations in the new version.
Have you even used Windows 10?
>>54249910
If they suspect you got something worth looking at on your pc, linux won't help for shit
>>54249961
You're dumb. W7 receives timely security updates until 2020.
>>54248088
i see you're a gaymer
i'm pretty gaymer too, razer 4 teh win, amirite?
u got steam, skype? maybe we should hang out...
is you're mom cool? my mom is so dumb, she won't buy me these new cool asus gayming shoes all my friends have...
they're moms are cool
what's you're favorite brand of energy drink?
mine is monster, i fell it's the only brand that gives me that extra boost when i gayme, lol
Too busy deving my game in Unity. I would lose my progress and the money people invested into me. I'd be homeless.
Windows gives me a job. Linux will make my homeless. I would rather have a good life than one I can barely survive day by day.
>>54250046
What's wrong with playing video games?
>>54250056
He can't so he pretends he doesn't need it. It's a copying mechanism when using Linux.
>>54249961
Guess it depends on the job.
Shitty dumb phone camera, but you can see that this very second, the work pc is using google docs on Win7.
>>54250000
Not shilling anything. Asking questions is not shilling. I prefer mint, myself. I don't need any MS products, and I don't game on my laptop that cost 300 bucks 6 years ago.
>>54250004
>You're a memer.
No idea what that means. But pic related was freshly taken.
>I'm not a retard who believes memes, so this is a non-issue.
Except that it isn't just a meme.
>http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
>You're moving the goalposts again.
No I'm not. You said, "There is no reason to use Windows 7," not, "There is no reason for me to use Windows 7."
>>54250009
>What compatibility issues would those be?
Our printer won't work for it. No drivers past Windows 7. Work Computer states in the evaluation that Trend Micro Security Agent won't work for it.
>You're advocating using an unsupported and depreciated 7 year old OS
I'm not advocating shit. Asking questions isn't advocating, otherwise I would be shilling the OS I use (mint).
>Have you even used Windows 10?
I'm not sure how that's relevant, but yes, I have.
I switched to linux cause I quit playing games on PC. Had nothing to do with the spying stuff. Also I was tired of troubleshooting and repairing my PC and fixing any buggy software/firmware issues so I'm just using vanilla Ubuntu.
I'll probably end up selling off PC parts and getting a laptop either from Apple or another company that allows me to have linux installed and support. Probably Dell most likely since they have long warranties and allow linux laptops.
>>54250056
this
if you're implying that it's a hobby for kids, then you're wrong
my mom says that i'm a big boy now with a big boy pee-pee so she buys me all these cool new gaymes and hardware to go with
all i have to do is to let her sit on my pee-pee every now and then
she seems to have gotten closer to me ever since my dad left, lmao
dunno what that is about, but hey; free hardware and gaymes can't be beat! fuck yeah!
>>54250099
Who's side are you on? You're making this unclear.
>>54250079
Using Windows 7 is honestly dumber than using a current Linux distro. Microsoft is dropping support for that shit, and you eventually won't be able to run any useful programs on it.
Have fun doing large calculations in Excel in your browser.
>http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
Meme tier amateur analysis, just like the voat fag.
>>54250130
>you eventually won't be able to run any useful programs on it.
You don't need Microsoft's support to run programs. They actually are attempting to remedy this in Windows 10. Which is why people are sticking to previous versions.
>>54250160
You didn't understand my point.
New stuff will be designed for Windows 10, not Windows 7, so it won't be compatible.
>>54250187
I will think about this if this happens. Windows 10 is a downgrade, so switching to it because something might happen is insane.
>>54250130
>Meme tier amateur analysis, just like the voat fag.
Ok, then. Have some more:
>http://propakistani.pk/2015/07/30/windows-10-can-be-your-worst-privacy-nightmare/
>https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150820/06171332012/windows-10-reserves-right-to-block-pirated-games-unauthorized-hardware.shtml
At any rate, I'm not attacking Win10, just pointing out problems that some people could have with it.
I have no problem pointing out the problems people could have with Linux. Why is Win10 such a touchy subject with you? Are you a MS shareholder or programmer working for MS or something?
>>54250200
>Windows 10 is a downgrade
It's not, for reasons I explained.
Honestly, unless you're putting child porn or other illegal shit on OneDrive you have nothing to fear from Windows 10.
>>54250204
I'm just sick of people memeing so hard over a fucking operating system.
>>54250228
It is, for reasons I explained.
Also great job responding to other person.
Out of arguments? Scream meme!
>>54250228
>I'm just sick of people memeing so hard over a fucking operating system
yeaah boii; giving a crap about privacy is memeing, aight shit nigga!
>>54247864
Contrarian detected!
>>54250070
I think you are confusing wants with needs. Try going a week without any sustenance, then a week without games and see which made you feel worse.
>>54247911
Gamer fags belong in /v/, probably underage anyways.
>>54248022
Winshill detected, enjoy the M$ botnet.
It's a better system.
>>54249889
Google docs is shit compared to Office
>>54248088
Once you reach age 13 and start puberty you'll find out that there's these things called girls that are much more interesting than lame video games.
Go back to /vg/ kid.
>>54250228
>I'm just sick of people memeing so hard over a fucking operating system.
If there wasn't a single grain of truth in the memes, I would understand. Fuck, I would understand if the upgrade remained as an "optional update," rather than being moved to a "recommended update." I would even understand the "recommended update," if their terms and conditions were simple and easy to understand, rather than like the Terms of a credit card. Or, if the Terms stay the same, the "I do not agree" option explicitly states that disagreeing to the Terms will roll you back to the previous version.
I get that their OS is no worse than iOS or Android, but then, you don't see me using a smart phone. For proof, see the quality of the pic above>>54250079
I understand that you're probably as frustrated at the OS naysayers as just about any other OS out there, but remember that there are people who are trying to put biases aside and understand the reasoning behind others.
>>54250046
>>54250099
>>54250079
Turn on hidden files and folders in folder options, go to C:\ and look for anything related to ~Windows.BT or anything resembling that. Delete it.
While you're at it, uninstall the windows upgrade update, hide that update, and delete GWX.
Also turn off windows update service, your dumb ass doesn't need it anymore, firewall up, remove adobe flash, and don't browse porn while on your work pc.
>>54247751
>muh adobe
>muh games
>muh random work software (but it's going to be replaced by something running on a webserver)
I don't have problems running Windows on a desktop computer, but I find it is herecy to run it on a laptop. I'm running xubuntu on mine. You either use linux or osx on a fucking laptop, windows sucks balls.
Probably I'll end up using linux if I learn to properly setup gpu pass through on some vm running windows to run a couple of games and photoshop/illustrator.
>>54247751
>MUH GAYMES!
>MUH GAYMES MUTHAFUKA!
>>54250349
I'm not posting on that PC, and the IT guy would have my head if I touched anything without his explicit permission.
I do my work on that PC, and not a god damned thing more. It could catch on fire, and I would let it burn.
>>54250315
Last year Microsoft would test if your computer is compatible with windows 10 prior to getting the upgrade option, and if it couldn't support windows 10 they wouldn't give you the update.
Has that changed and is M$ now pushing it regardless of whether it will run on your PC or not, thereby breaking who knows how many god damn computers?
>>54250311
lmao you can watch porn on any OS
>>54250379
Get your fucking useless IT guy to remove it then. Or don't bring up the issue and gamble on the odds of whether everything will go to shit or not if you upgrade so his ass can get fired.
>>54250383
No idea what their policy was, or what it is now. Test on the work PC explicitly states that the printer won't work, and explicitly states that the Trend Micro Security Agent won't work, and even though I took the liberty to hide the "recommended update" on Windows Update, it will still try pushing it through the infamous windows icon that appeared a little less than a year ago.
>>54250402
I only brought it up because someone asked what wouldn't work on Win10. If it upgraded this very second, I wouldn't give a shit. I would just tell the boss in the morning that it automatically updated, and that he needed to call the IT guy.
>>54247751
>why haven't you moved to Linux?
I'm too stoopid to learn computers.
280x has poor driver support
>whipping
If u can't spell properly, don't bother installing Linux. You might as well type sudo rm -rf if u do anyway. It speed up ur pc by removing any unnecessary junk.
>>54247751
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
There is one program I use a lot daily, it has no gahnoo slash loonix port, performs terribly in wine, and my system doesn't support PCI-e passthrough.
>Switch from windows to linux
>Gee I guess I won't be able to play many gayteeah 5 on this shit
>Dual boot, try not dual booting
>Still go back to windows
>Hey man did you try that hackintosh shit
>Nah you know what the cool hip kids say, apple is shit and for homosexuals
>Try hackintosh anyways because the tear jerkingly bad font rendering on windows is tear jerkingly bad
>Shit actually works
>No games
>3 months later, still no games
>Can't go back to Windows now but I left the games
Video games and I'm a lazy bastard.
I'll do it one day
I can already run Linux natively on my Windows 10 install. Why would I switch to a Linux based operating system?
>>54251517
V U L K A N
U
L
K
A
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I fucked around with linux 5 years ago on my netbook and laptop, both of which were pretty bad even when they came out.
I've never actually tried linux on a decent computer (4690k + 660 ti) but there's no point now. I play games on windows.
>>54247751
Well just learn about Linux, start with Ubuntu and move onto more advanced Linux operating systems. It's really not hard. It's just not windows.
>>54247751
Because I need my mouse macros.
>install linux because /g/ told me so
>installer stuck at 800x600
>"no worries, I'm sure I will be able to fix this after installing it"
>try enabling the video drivers
>they don't work
>google the problem
>it's a bug that hasn't been resolved
>install windows 7
>download and install the drivers
>it just works™©
>>54250024
what is home folder encryption
what is disk encryption
what is password
whst is 5th ammendment or similar in other countries
SSDs are a bitch for proprietary management tools that keep them alive
>>54251545
oh wow, the whole 1 emulator with DirectX 12 as a base has a Vulkan fork.
>>54251793
Vulkan has the potential to take over, but we won't know until like 2019.
>>54251796
just like OpenGL had "potential". With Apple walking there are even less chances.
Vulkan will get Mobile and Web, maybe enthusiasts sector, like emulators. Just like OpenGL did. It's definitely a win, but not the one Linux gamers want.
>>54249914
>Windows 7 is deprecated
>10 is faster than Windows 7
Wrong
>>54250009
>Unfounded nonsense that no one actually cares about except bloggers
>Win10 runs better than Win7 or 8
Wrong
i have a life
>>54251884
>>54251884
>Wrong
Wrong
>>54250275
never thought i could experience physical cringe from a single line of text
>>54251897
>Wrong
>Wrong
Wrong
>>54251903
you should visit dpt more often
>>54251543
>>54251914
>>Wrong
>>Wrong
>Wrong
Wrong
>>54247751
Visual studio. Vidya.
Literally the only reason since I recently switched from 3DS Max to Blender and from Photoshop to Krita & Gimp.
Also m scared to death that i'll fuck up my PC in the process of installing it.
Can't think of anything else I use that would be irreplaceable to me and not work on Linux.
My reason: Linux is shit. Xorg is shit, all DE/WM are shit, both the nvidia proprietary and free driver are shit, and all I need from Linux, the UNIX shell, is available on Windows thru Cygwin. Don't take it personally Linux users, but it just doesn't suit my needs.
>>54252005
>Cygwin
Biggest piece of shit
>DE
One of the key reasons I use Linux
Muh games. Muh software.
>>54251929
no u
If you are concerned about the install process check this guide out
it walks you through installing Ubuntu in the various ways
worldoflinux.org/install-linux.php
>>54247751
>>54247751
I installed Arch with AwesomeWM on my laptop to play around with as a hobby. In my shallow experience of using the OS, I won't be switching because:
- games. (Starcraft 2 and visual novels)
- texthooker and OCR software like kanjiTomo
- Epwing2Anki
- Mozc and Anthy is shit compared to Google IME
- I can't find a file browser comparable to XYplorer. Even clover for windows has double click to move up directory. Why doesn't Linux with all its amazing customisation have this.
- No Logitech Gaming Software to conveniently manage my G502's and G510 keyboard's macro keys on a per application basis
- Does it have something as good as Autohotkey, letting me customise keys on a per application basis?
- MS office
The last time I tried to use linux a clean install of it almost ruined my laptop
It ruined its read/write speed and the fan started spinning much much faster than normal all from using debian
I think these are the only windows applications I use that aren't available on linux now.
SSD Tool
MPC-HC
foobar2000
RivaTunerStatisicServer
BorderlessGaming
CheatEngine
daemontools (literally only for sega saturn CD mounting)
puNES
Project64
bgb
gambatte
KEGA fusion
SSF
nullDC
ePSXe
blueMSX
vidya
Clearly most of it is vidya related, but the first 3 aren't.
>>54247751
I'm not hosting a server and NVIDIA driver support on linux is bad.
>>54253011
>using daemontools in 2016
nigga at least use WinCDEmu not that malware
>>54247918
>muh gaymz
>>54253044
wincdemu mounting isn't supported through SSF, so it's useless for mounting sega saturn CDs. As I said, I literally only use it for that. Also, I use an older version that's before the botnet, supposedly.
>>54251775
Don't bother him dude, he just plain retard that move to /g/ from /v/
