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Can any of you /g/uys actually prove that Windows 10 actually spies on users?
>inb4 stfu pajeet
stfu pajeet
stfu pajeet
>>54233585
stfu Radesh
>>54233606
I'm a linux user though... Thing is, I don't really believe the whole spying fiasco.
We proved it weeks ago. We're not doing your googling for you.
>>54233585
http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/17/technology/windows-10-privacy/
>>54233614
>>54233611
>>54233606
And I thought /g/ might not be complete shitposters for once.
>>54233621
The only thing I found in google was a 'The Guardian' article and some shitty articles on how to opt out of their spying.
>>54233621
>We
>>54233632
Then you're an idiot who doesn't understand how to use search engines.
>>54233627
Thanks, but there isn't much proof there. It's just some claims.
>>54233642
Show me your pro googling skills, senpai
>>54233621
>>54233646
There are a lot of articles but they're just claims, no real evidence.
>>54233585
stfu pajeet
>>54233658
I guess I asked for it...
>>54233656
stfu pajeet
>>54233585
>prove that Windows 10 actually spies on users?
can you prove that it doesn't, prajeet?
>>54233673
I asked first
Shameless self-bump because I really wanna see if this is a meme.
>>54233702
Then to answer both our questions, no you can't prove or disprove spying in windows 10 because it's closed source.
All you can do is make judgments based on the available facts.
Does win 10 send back more data than 7/8.1? Yes.
Were telemetry options inexplicably deprecated in an unprecedented way? Yes.
Is Microsoft pushing win 10 for """free""" with borderline malware style tactics? Yes.
Is the telemetry data hosted primarily in a Five Eyes complicit country? Yes.
Is Microsoft a part of PRISM and known to comply with law enforcement requests for user data? Yes
Is win 10 a shitty OS compared to basically anything else regardless of all this? Yes
glad I could help
>>54233767
Finally something constructive! Thanks man.
I was surprised how onedrive would start itself (running in the background with no icon)on my android after I stopped it, with camera roll off in settings and backing my pics/vids and saw this after 2months it's handy work,it backed up everything!
>>54233585
It has been shown by more capable people than me that windows 10 is sending data to microsoft servers on multiple occasions.
We don't know if it's actually private data but it's more than likely, since microsoft wants to make money from advertising to you, which gets more effective and more profitable when using your data to determine your personality.
Honestly, even without all this privacy stuff, the fact remain that a "free to play" operation system is a terrible idea that should never have existed in the first place.
>>54233585
MS literally posted stats of apps being used, what sort of photos were opened etc on their site
You don't have to know how to use wireshark to see that
>>54233632
>make shitpost thread
>And I thought /g/ might not be complete shitposters for once.
Install Gentoo
And read the EULA and terms of service and Microsoft privacy statement the fucking registry note on telemetry and snoop your fucking traffic
>>54233585
http://propakistani.pk/2015/07/30/windows-10-can-be-your-worst-privacy-nightmare/
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
http://lifehacker.com/what-windows-10s-privacy-nightmare-settings-actually-1722267229
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150820/06171332012/windows-10-reserves-right-to-block-pirated-games-unauthorized-hardware.shtml
Hope I helped.
>wincucks lol
>>54234447
>editing a news article and screenshotting it because you can't find the news you desperately want
>>54233585
Yes.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+10+spyware+wireshark
/thread
>>54233585
I will do something like this OP - I just need to know what tools I should use - going to install latest updates on w10 enterprise, block everything via group policies then leave it on for days to collect IP's - can I get some guidance? I have all the time in the world to research how to properly use the tools just give me names.
>>54234447
Tbh people that consume child pornography should be detained.
>>54233585
>>54233702
You just dont fucking get it, do you.
You dont need to know if its spying or not to know what "risks" are and how to deal with them.
>is there a risk of Microshaft spying on you?
Yes.
>Is there a high risk of Microshaft spying on you?
Probably.
>is it worth to switch to GNU/Linux to prevent being spied on in case they are
You decide, but every moderately smart person would say yes.
People on /g/ still using the "you cant prove it so it doesnt happen" meme are fucking retards.
>>54234564
>desperately want
I actually very desperately want W10 to be good so that I can abandon 7 and move on, but microsoft does everything they can to keep me away.
>>54233585
This shit is everywhere, but Windows 10 is even worse.
>>54233585
Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1
Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu
Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX
https://archive.is/qLRZx
Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/Zny36
https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ
https://archive.is/ko469
https://archive.is/l6pmO
Micrcrosoft automatically downloads Windows 10 on PCs running
Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 (between 3.5GB and 6GB), even if
users have not opted-in:
http://archive.is/CEvKh
Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy
> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
>>54234447
That's actually great. I hope they catch all those pervs.
>>54235843
I wish you could update this pasta, reposting links about technical preview version is not helping the cause.
>>54235843
The Arstechnica article among others were proven false, I don't know who keeps copy pasting this but it badly needs to be revised
>>54233585
stfu pajeet
>>54233585
So, does /g/ know about spybot-antibeacon makes all this privacy issues pointless? I see threads all the time, but hardly anyone mentions spybot has already fixed the problem.
Hell, I'm macfag (only built a PC for Steam) and even I know this.
>>54235924
[citations needed]
>>54235919
Non of these links are about technical preview, retard.
Besides, I tried asking before and couldnt get really any answer, save for posts calling me "marketeer" or "pajeet" because I refused to simply swallow the dogma about "good linux, bad windows". Oh and old links as "proofs" where even authors was clearly saying that they only "suspect" something.
Of course, the biggest bullshit is that - and nobody sane can deny this - unless you dig in registry, use third party program or block tons of adresses in firewall, users of "Pro" or "Home" versions cant even block all the options. This basically takes away control from the user. Only companies with their Enterprise can officially gain proper level of control - and not all.
You see, the reporting fuction is build-in in OS and you can read MS own articles about that (for example, https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/disconnect-your-organization-from-microsoft#bkmk-moreutc ). The "Connected User Experience and Telemetry" is always on - packages content is controlled by other settings and in case of Enterprise/Edu, with disabled all options, turned off MSRT report and installed third party AV, only contains machine ID, device and OS class. But as you can see - it always connect. Basically calls back MS servers and then think about what it is allowed to send. Same with connecting while you enter something in Start Menu search - if you told it to not doing that, it will still first connect and then realize it shouldnt, basically empty call. Whole mechanism is designed in full data exchange in mind, which is limited only when user is actively refusing to do so - but only limited, not prevented. And you must be aware first.
>>54236059
The very first https://archive.is/Zny36 link uder "Windows snoops on the users' files..." section, you dumbass.
Another parrot that only copy pastas, without even reading it. You are just as bad as all those "NOTHING TO HIDE, NOTHING TO FEAR" retards.
>>54233585
You could get away with downloading an illegal ISO installing in a VM and disable NAT, or wait for a full retail DVD release. Install and don't allow it to connect to the internet. By that I mean, unplugging your ethernet cable.
Still, I wouldn't use this retarded piece of shit anyways
>>54233767
>Is win 10 a shitty OS compared to basically anything else regardless of all this? Yes
Like loonix?
Bwahahahahahahaha. Sorry dude, but you're absolutely delusional.
>>54235906
Maybe he wasn't a perv. Maybe those were his damn kids.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-privacy-statement
So you are looking for proof that a closed source system is doing something untrustworthy? Isn't that the whole point of free software? That no one can actually know is it is safe or not. I have no idea what is in the encrypted packets leaving my computer everytime I use my keyboard on a win 10 machine. I'm also not going to assume it's safe because rajeet said so.
The NSA literally makes a copy of the Internet at the major backbone ISP routing level. It really isn't that far-fetched to see data mining from an OS as a possibility. You can by default believe things that can't be verified as trustworthy. Most inelegant people will not.
Years before snowden:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A
>>54236072
Continuing, Win10 have data collection, hell, even keystrokes collection in EULA, since the services proided along with the OS does use that - Edge will collect keystrokes, unless you will tell it to stop, OneDrive will check your photos by "Photo DNA" if they dont contain anything illegal and so on. They have to mention it in EULA, even if this is optional - but many people dont even realize that this is an option and happily feed MS with their data. This is not even about providing them with passwords and such - they are not interested in that. But creating patterns out of thousands of users behaviour is worth hellload of money.
There was a video of russian guy showing how Win10 made screenshoot of his desktop. It was called bullshit numerous times on /g/ already, but is still being used.
Another guy made webm about how Win10 sends packages of his keystrokes and such. Other guy (https://youtu.be/sF5U4tAzQZc) called it bullshit, showing how he did the same and yet nothing like that happened.
A lot of "Windows 10 spies on you" articles provides as proofs "network analyze" of how W10 connects thousands of times. This was again proved biased, for example by http://www.zdnet.com/article/when-it-comes-to-windows-10-privacy-dont-trust-amateur-analysts/
There is a lot of shit on both sides. Much of it could be avoided, if MS would think ahead and instead of forcing it down users throat with options to say "no", would first ASK. But somebody was too greedy on that sweet, sweet metadata.
And of course, the big bullshit of letting companies control the information flow and typical user not.
>>54233585
Sure, my virtual machine with Windows 10 Enterprise sends data like this to bing.com
>>54236310
>Isn't that the whole point of free software? That no one can actually know is it is safe or not.
>Implying anyone has audited the millions of lines of code in the linux kernel, which includes NSA contributions
Kek
>>54236367
Is searching bing.com when you use cortana really spying?
Big fucking surprise when you search for something it connects to a search engine
>>54236464
Not him, but thats part of my problems listed in >>54236354 post - MS could avoid most of the mess with just stopping forcing various services on people. Cortana could be option at installation, not coiming along and by default with full invasion. OneDrive too.
All they need was being honest.
But does the "typical user" care? They happily feed metadata with Home and Pro versions. Fe anons and companies that install Enterprise/Edu and limit the bullshit are marginal case.
All they want is what phone companies want - patterns created out of people behaviours. This is worth absurd amounts of money and it still grows. It have to break someday.
If you install windows 10 on a virtual machine on your computer do Microsoft still have capabilities of basically botnetting your whole pc?
>>54236686
Provide your definition of "botnet" since Im afraid that we know different ones.
Do you ask if MS will turn your PC into "zombie"?
>>54236438
With how spergie the average Linux user is you think the code has never been audited? Come on now...
I'm sure even you can understand the difference between having the option to check and simply not being able to check ever. If you can't understand this concept freedom may be too advanced for you.
>Thinking Windows and Linux are no different in how source code is treated.
Why even post here?
>>54236771
Basically the whole telemetry , monitoring of keystrokes and hard drive being backed up on the cloud and so on
>>54236814
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/windows/manage/disconnect-your-organization-from-microsoft
Here you have official explanation of telemetry functions.
A lot of it cannot be (officially) disabled if you dont run Enterprise/Edu version. At lowest possible level, telemetry include only your machine ID and class. Keystrokes are being collected if you run Edge or use Cortana, so if you want to use W10, look up for solutions on disabling it. OneDrive and other cloud solutions should be disabled right away as well.
>>54233585
The EULA is enough.
>but that's not actual proof!
well, maybe you should stop being such an easy consumer.
start thinking critically for a change. the company doesn't act in the best interest of their consumers.
if doing this shit helps them legally or financially, of course they're going to do it. they even wrote it in their nice little EULA.
>>54235906
catching child porn is the super easy excuse.
if you aren't critical about this shit, letting private firms play law enforcement, then you're putting yourself up to a dystopian future.
how much do they pay you for these posts suresh?
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>>54233615
Why are you a Linux user then?
>4/?
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>>54238798
The same thing stallman is paying you.
>>54239636
>>54239656
>this goy believe blocking shit on the hosts file mean shit
>this goy doesn't know m$ bypasses this shit
your best bet would be installing a 3rd party dynamic firewall that warns you the moment something is trying to call home
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0.0.0.0 www.cds26.ams9.msecn.net
0.0.0.0 www.lb1.www.ms.akadns.net
0.0.0.0 www.az361816.vo.msecnd.net
0.0.0.0 www.az512334.vo.msecnd.net
0.0.0.0 www.msntest.serving-sys.com
0.0.0.0 www.secure.flashtalking.com
0.0.0.0 www.s.gateway.messenger.live.com
0.0.0.0 www.schemas.microsoft.akadns.net
0.0.0.0 www.settings-win.data.microsoft.com
0.0.0.0 www.msnbot-65-55-108-23.search.msn.com
0.0.0.0 www.vortex-bn2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net
0.0.0.0 www.vortex-cy2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net
>are some the have been caught by wireshark i will post more after some getting some food in me
>>54239757
why not pastebin it, idiot
>>54239757
>>54239756
or at least block this shit on your GNU/Linux freedom respecting router
>>54234158
>b-but... but Google does it too!
>>54235919
>>54235924
What would you update / change? Improved pasta is better pasta. Please improve!
>>54235924
>where proven false
can you provide a link to this?
Trying Windows 10 right now.
Sure, it feels nice to have something new, but the novelty is slowly wearing thin...
Everytime my computer is't used for 5 minutes or so the fans start whirling and cpu usage skyrockets - no idea why, I think it's Update shit.
On that note, Updates are awful - all forced/automatic, and the group policies as far as I can tell are ignored!
The spying may be overblown, but relinquishing control over Updates is pretty shitty
>>54233585
but according the Microsoft privacy statement, they are well within their rights to send all microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
>>54233585
https://blog.robseder.com/2015/08/16/whats-the-real-deal-with-windows-10-and-privacy/
>>54240002
This what pisses me off the most, I can live with the spying rumours. The updates are just inexcusable, locking home users to be forcefully updated no matter what is just criminal.
There should at least be some ability to defer updates temporarily for all users to account for the possibility of system breaking updates. The only thing they've offered is that update hide/remove tool, which only works AFTER you install the update. Well what if the update puts my PC in a reboot loop?
stfu pajesh
>>54240163
Not sure how powerful this setting is...
Shame all the good settings are hidden away in Group Policies now
>>54240289
Last I checked only Pro/Enterprise have access to the Group Policy editor
I was noting that Home has no way to defer updates at all. Lots of people that aren't complete novices use Home such as students like myself, usually because it came preinstalled.
I could happily just AutoKMS the shit out of 10 and enjoy Pro, but I'd rather keep my genuine license for now. So I'll stick with 8.1 where I can at least control my updates, and I'll be on the lookout for something with Pro preinstalled next time I'm in the market for a new machine.
>>54240163
There is literally an option to defer updates in the advanced settings on the settings panel.
>>54240527
Pro only, I want to retain my genuine license right now for reasons
>>54233614 >>54233627 >>54233658 >>54233673 >>54234088 >>54234104 >>54234226 >>54235429 >>54235451 >>54235503 >>54235735 >>54235843 >>54235928 >>54235940 >>54236163 >>54236367 >>54238698 >>54240123 >>54240138
The delusional level of you, goym, is staggering.
If you dare beLIEving that two snaps can hide your porn from the botnet you deserve to get gassed ASAP.
Le t me interject with a little pill of HARD TRUTH, you gullible ones.
>vortex.data.microsoft.com
Let's look at ONE (1) of the many botnet enablers in a long and updated list.
It is connected to hundred (100's) of Autonomous Systems, from:
AS10098 Henderson Data Centre Limited (HONG KONG)
...to:
AS9984 Microsoft Ignite (Australia)
And it is related to hundred of IP from:
2c0f:fd58::/32 Data Pro Business Online (SOUTH AFRICA)
to:
1.160.0.0/12 Data Communication Business Group, TAIWAN
So, you need an HARDWARE FIREWALL TO CLOSE THE BOTNET, not muh TWO (2) CLICKS ON MUH SHITTY TABLET
>GULLIBLE FUCKING GOYM
>..\ProgramData\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl
..\ProgramData\Microsoft\Diagnosis\ETLLogs\AutoLogger\AutoLogger-Diagtrack-Listener.etl
>>54240594
Mine is just 1.08 MB on a barely used tablet.
Also, sadly, I can't DELETE, as I do not have the '"property'" on such botnet.etl file.
Running as ADMIN
>>54240594
>>54240622
64kb
it let me delete it as well
>>54236289
you should get arrested anon, CP is not ok.
>>54240562
Why you keep going with that "botnet botnet botnet" talk?
Is everything that connect with homes server botnet?
>>54240653
Maybe he is using Home or something?
The lack of control for user on "Home" version is truly disgusting.
As far as I understand it, W10 ( the coincidentally free update) is a CIA/NSA project to spy on you "legally" after the Snowden fiasco.
>>54240768
I'm using Home too
>The lack of control for user on "Home" version is truly disgusting.
Sure is
>>54240768
HOME EDITION
With all the talk about MS spying and all - why no companies went mad about it yet?
I mean, if they are selling Enterprise edition for companies and similar customers, their admins should refuse to install OS that does not provide proper security for companies networks. After all, this is about large sums of money.
I can imagine spying on free users and leaving paying ones alone but I cant really imagine situation, when both are being spying on.
>>54240801
Then why the hell he cant delete it? Sounds fishy.
>>54240801
""""""""""""""""HoMe""""""""""""""
Edition
Can't be debotnetted. WIDOWS CONFIRMED FOR NSA CLIENT @ HOME
>>54240749
"""CLOUD""""
>>54240886
You dont have to use cloud services, you know?
>>54240893
bad trolling
>>54240921
Likewise.
For hell sake, people cant even setup their own OS?
>>54233585
Yes. Microsoft even tells you that it spies on you in the Windows10 EULA.
What's the point in proving anything if Microsoft themselves admitted they spy on you and you can't avoid it?
>>54240969
Because /g/ claims that MS does more than what they admitted they do, like:
>collecting keystrokes
>collecting audio/video data
>scanning all files
>detecting illegal software (how?)
>making screenshoots
Hence articles trying to prove that false and another ones trying to expand that list.
Sadly, you rarely can have discussion about that, since it quickly devolve into "SHUT UP PAJEET" shitposting.
>>54241174
No, Im not. Probably missed linking my previous post.
Did I called myself "OP"? No, then I dont see a problem.
>>54241222
Well you didn't > anything. Sorry, I'll delete my bold claims.
>person A makes a claim
>it is person's B job to disprove it
>otherwise person A is correct by default
Sums up most of this thread
it is pretty simple, if you dont like the OS (or anything else for that matter) don't use it.
>>54239697
not him but i use freebsd because everything is sane and it just werks
had so many headaches with windows
but i could not really care less if pajeet wants to jerk off while he watches my desktop
>>54233614 >>54233627 >>54233658 >>54233673 >>54234088 >>54234104 >>54234226 >>54235429 >>54235451 >>54235503 >>54235735 >>54235843 >>54235928 >>54235940 >>54236163 >>54236367 >>54238698 >>54240123 >>54240138 >>54240956
Do U even gfx.ms ???
See:
https://auth.gfx.ms/wLiveBasePackage_T1wdJ_DlpnsJmHM56Xm2sg2.js
Copy/pasted here:
http://pastebin.com/LTp2J50b
gfx.ms [JS]
>http://pastebin.com/LTp2J50b
Wiondows 10 goes to gfx.ms (MS REDIRECT URL) and points to some JS...long JS.
>>54241315
But do you agree with my claims and worries?
Because sometimes I feel like Im alone in refusing to simply accept dogma about "W10 spy everything, Linux is savior of the world".
>>54241203
>Hence articles trying to prove that false and another ones trying to expand that list.
nothing will ever be able to prove or disprove the spying, it's a closed source OS.
>>collecting keystrokes
>>making screenshoots
both of which occurred during the beta period, so it's certainly still possible
>>detecting illegal software (how?)
Microsoft has already demonstrated the ability to uninstall user software without prompt as part of an update
>you rarely can have discussion about that, since it quickly devolve into "SHUT UP PAJEET" shitposting.
because these discussions are ultimately self defeating (see first point) and there is strong evidence that there are paid shills on /g/ trying to improve windows 10's shit image
>>54241924
>nothing will ever be able to prove or disprove the spying, it's a closed source OS.
This sound like denying any closed source software, because it is closed source.
>>54233585
Stfu Pajeet
>>54242201
>This sound like denying any closed source software, because it is closed source.
Not at all, I'm primarily a wangblows 7 user.
While you can't prove specifically what data is being sent back you can prove that data IS being sent back and make judgments about the software based on the available information, see >>54233767
If that doesn't matter to you then fine, but as I said there will not be any hard proof for/against spying in windows 10 until it's open source, which is probably never.
>>54242201
That's what it is.
Deny everything that has the potential of being malicious.
It's that simple.
>>54242303
But a lot of closed source is useful and dont have open-source counterpart.
>>54242300
What if I believe official documentation about group policy settings and such?
>>54242365
then
>If that doesn't matter to you then fine
and there's no other discussion to be had
>>54242392
Well, it matters to me, but everyone is saying that the official documentation and articles denying those spying revelations or showing their own tests that dont end with same results (and having more detailed "experiment" setup provided) are lies and I get worried.
After all, I will have to switch to Win10 at some point, for the same reasons why I stay on Win7.
>>54241782
>keeps using dogma when he doesn't know what that word actually means
>>54242828
>Dogma is a belief or set of beliefs that is accepted by the members of a group without being questioned or doubted.
Dont worry, Im pretty aware what it means and thats why I used it.
>>54242862
A more accurate definition would be, "a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true." Merriam-Webster gtfo.
>>54242862
Your definition is more synonymous with the word religion, while dogma is what drives the religion
>>54243102
Yet I used it in a sense I described in earlier post.
Yet, the only true difference between our definitions is that second specify source of principle/belief. Both however treat is as religious version of axiom/paradigm.
>>54243122
Yes, indeed. I already noticed that many Linux users act like part of religious group.
>>54234158
>>54243616
>Debunking Myth Myth
So, this is debunking of double negative, that means positive, then it should be about debunking the spying claim?
>>54243707
myth is not a grammatical affirmative or negative. this is not a double negative in the same way that double double 2 is 8, not 2.
>>54233632
3 harmless posts triggered someones autism today. its not like /g/ was ever a good place anyways
>>54243616
Remember when Google was being trashed for privacy violations simply for building a database of wireless network IDs and locations, solely in order to improve their location API for mapping?
>>54233585
just install bwmeter and see for yourself
How do I stop it? There's no option for "do not schedule" or anything anymore.
I already have windows 10 on my main rig, I DO NOT want it for my shitty laptop running Windows 7, which they think it's compatible but it's not and I know my laptop will fail if it goes through with it.
>>54246423
Why do you think it's not compatible?
>>54246423
step 1. stop using windows
step 2. pick your favorite gnu/linux distribution
step 3. install that instead of windows
>>54246446
Hard drive has always been a bit iffy but this install could kill it, it "died" on me in the past and I've had boot errors as well even with what it does have. Computer is already slow - it's a 5 year old laptop. Too many old programs I risk losing and not working with windows 10, need 7 to do things that 10 won't allow me to.
>>54246490
Gentoo it is, then
>>54246423
GWX Control Panel. It'll disable the OS upgrading and nagging, and delete the downloaded installation files. It can also re-enable it all later if you change your mind.
I'm surprised nobody has posted the webm of video data being sent to Microsoft's servers yet.
>>54246490
you forgot one step
Step 4. Be preachy to everyone about unfounded claims that windows spys on its users every chance you get
>The OS that has the most annoying users ? any Linux variant
>>54247051
>The OS that has the most annoying users ?
OS X easily. At least Linux users will mostly give you semi-valid reasons they want to use Linux. Mac users usually spout bullshit about how Macs can't get viruses or similar.
>>54239757
I hope you're blocking these at your inline firewall appliance rather than entering them for every single device on your network
>mfw every time i boot up win10 it says "can't download updates, needs at least 650MB space
>10 gigs free space on windows drive
all i ever used was OOSU10 program that anons were linking to when win10 came out.
>>54233621
>weeks
>>54233585
>Can any of you /g/uys actually prove that Windows 10 actually spies on users?
You dont even have to look hard, they are transparent as a company. All you have to do is read their fine print
It all being right there in plain sight is what caused the uproar
>>54241777
r=e+k(n)+(t?t:X),
n checked
>>54233585
>>54247051
>microsoft: uhh, yeah, we're spying on you. here's a writeup explaining what we're doing and how we're doing it. don't like it? tough.
>you: CAN YOU FUCKING PROVE IT FAGGETS?!
Every time.
>>54242499
Please respond ;_;
>>54233585
Faggot.
