What /g/ think about KDE?
It's awful, use Gnome
I'm more of a guhNOME guy myself... wait that's not the line
>>54209953
>>54209965
>>54209972
KDE and GNOME both suck; use Xfce.
>>54209953
It was GOAT back in the 3.5 days. Nowadays it's a joke, and yet still the second best option (behind mate)
unironically prefer it to ganome
>>54209953
The only option that is as fully featured as Windows
>>54209953
KDE 1 was okay
KDE 2 was good
KDE 3 was almost like XP, very good
KDE 4 and later are just bloated trash
>>54210014
This, m8 ftw
It's shit. Use Xfce or nothing at all.
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I like it, just wish it were more stable on Kubuntu
>>54209953
I run it on Arch Linux and its alright but I agree with >>54210014
Mate and KDE are the only Desktops on Linux that don't suck balls. Cinnamon is pretty good as well.
KDE = Mate > Cinnamon > Xfce > GNOME = Unity > LXDE = Enlightenment >
It's like an uglier, more inscrutable version of the windows shell.
>>54210289
Why is LXDE so low? And since when is Enlightenment a DE?
>>54209953
I want LXQt to put KDE out of it's misery
>>54209953
KDE is ABG* spec compliant for a quality user experience.
*Anything but gnome.
>>54210376
I wound't hold my breath if I were you.
>>54209953
Bloated af and plasma is buggy af.
Cinnamon is alright
>>54209953
Bloated. But the customizability made it worth it for me. Plus, I have a lot of RAM so the bloat's not a problem for me.
The big downside is that there's a lot you have to learn to turn off all the unwanted crap and change all the weird default settings. So I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner.
>>54210433
>>54210459
Do you even know what bloated means?
it's a slow bloated piece of shit
>>54209988
>>54210152
>>54210062
this. based xfce > all
>>54209953
Plasma 5 is pretty gud.
>>54210473
Bloat is just a buzzword around here, anon
>>54210510
>dislikes kde for being slow and bloated
>recommends xfce
xfcefags are literally THIS delusional.
i like it
>>54209953
It's fucking shit and doesn't respond when you need it most.
>>54210473
If you subscribe to suckless.org it means "the GUI isn't in a terminal"
It's my favorite DE. Lxde was too sparse, gnome is alright, mate is alright. Eh really doesn't fucking matter OP.
Everytime I use XFCE I wonder why the fuck I'm using this. It offers nothing that modern DEs have for ootb working experience.
Shit or get off the pot. If you want lightweight and no features, use i3. If you don't want to fuck around with shit and have it just werk use mate/gnome/kde/cinnamon
>>54210983
Is there any DE other than KDE that supports transparent borders?
KDE + Oxygen transparent is pretty hard to beat.
>>54209953
Lxde is better.
>>54210152
>>54210062
>>54210510
>kde is bloated shit
>uses xfce
Lmao use lxde. Openbox ain't hard.
>>54213444
I dislike KDE because it's buggy shit you retarded nigger and openbox is terrible
KDE MASTER RACE REPORTING IN
Why are gtk cucks so salty ITT?
KDE is very shitty, but somewhat good looking and feels good using - very smooth.
Gnome is an absolute abomination.
XFCE is one of the worst optimized DE, people like it for the looks but in benchmarks and various tests with various software it scores among the worst.
LXDE, Openbox - score among the absolute best in performance and are very lightweight.
MATE - I used to shill this, but the more you use it the more shitty it starts to look and feel, you're better with using gnome 3.20 + than this.
+ It's not longer optimized properly, it started to go down the list in tests compared to how well it scored last year.
Is there seriously not a single WM user ITT?
>>54210459
Can you just make a fast pastebin with what a user might want to disable? I'm considering trying KDE.
>>54210314
>>54213411
>>54213444
DEPRECATED
>>54215133
I use KWin
What's wrong with xfce? I was just about to install it after trying different bunt us in VM for 3 days.
>>54209953
it's a piece of shit from my ass
I've had to switch over to openbox on university computers just to be able to resize windows without turning them black or forwarding an X application without totally locking up the system
multi-monitor support is bad, Konsole randomly memleaks all the time, and Kwin crashes everytime the wind blows funny.
Just use XFCE
I would love to love KDE, but its developers are absolute retards.
Now, that KDE4 finally is rock solid and full featured, they completely abondon it, to start KDE5, which is a buggy piece of shit, where nothing works as it should, so that you are stuck with a broken DE for about 3 years or so, till it finally is usable. Then you have a year of joy and perfection, until the retards decide that they cant have a working system, and must now start KDE6 from scratch.
>>54217825
>KDE4
Was shit. Plasma 5.6 is god tier
>>54217846
It might become, just as KDE4 went from an ugly, unstable bullshit, to a rocksolid DE, but currently, KDE5 isn't even beta-quality.
Who on earth thought to release a fuckin pre-alpha into the public?
>>54217903
>release a fuckin pre-alpha into the public
Welcome to free software.
I use GnuNome
It's alright
>>54209953
Just use Windows
>not just using a WM with xorg
holy shit how you likin your bloat pajeet?
>inb4 go away arch user
im a minimal Debian user
>>54217825
Finest bullshit I've read today. KDE5 was not made from scratch at all, in fact it is just a refactoring of KDE4 in smaller components (and a new flat theme for Plasma). If you had ever used it, you'd have noticed that very little has changed in the user experience, certainly nothing you'd expect from a major version increase.
>>54217924
>Welcome to free software.
I'd say welcome to '10s software.
At least FOSS entities have the excuse of limited resources. What's Microsoft's excuse of doing away completely with their QA department and forcing a never-finished product on its users?
>>54209953
Best DE.
ITT: my opinion is a fact
>>54210376
this and >>54210415 . sadly, LXQt isn't in a good state.
>>54209953
I've been using XFCE for years (still using it) and I've recently tried Manjaro KDE. It's really beautiful (personal preference) and looks like a DE that would be appealing to average users.
>>54215120
>benchmarks
>for a DE
>>54219146
>What's Microsoft's excuse of doing away completely with their QA department and forcing a never-finished product on its users?
Microsoft <3 Linux ;)
>>54219093
This. KDE was always a buggy piece of crap, even on later versions of KDE4. Plasma 5 only brought improvements, now I can crash the DE in 2 minutes flat
>>54220323
Just kill yourself poor winxp faggot.
>2016
>seriously suggesting xfce or any crap dependent on X.org
>>54220382
#R E K T
>KDE
>literally needs it's own loading screen
>>54210045
>KDE 1 was okay
>KDE 2 was good
>KDE 3 was almost like XP, very good
>HuuurrrDurrr bloatttttt.
How do you know? You probably born when KDE 4.3 came out.
Antergos/arch and KDE plasma 5.6.3.
Perfect.
>>54210376
There is no reason to use lxqt or lxde unless you have a pentium4 with 1GB RAM and an ATI 9200 from 2002.
>>54220710
You're right it's perfectly awesome and super fast.
>>54220934
MSDOS 6.2 and windows 3.11 are super fast too.
>>54220955
The new plasma desktop is faster and much more capable than your meme craps.
>>54220982
The new plasma is what I'm using now, Mr. Meme.
Forget it, stick to Trinity.
>>54209953
>qt
>>54209953
I am trying it now. Its got a nice system for customizing the look. But in all honestly it cant replace Gnome so far I might be going back.
Going to keep at it a month try the software out see what its like.
>>54210459
>>54215142
secondin this onegai shimasu
>>54220382
>two clocks
>home folder on desktop, not panel
3/10
>>54210049
Its not m8 its mate and pronounced mah-tay
>>54213411
>Lxde
I still like it too. Watching a 1080p youtube video in Chrome using Lubuntu has me using about 800MB RAM. My computer has way more RAM than that of course, but it's kinda cool to use things that aren't bloated.
>>54222807
Source? Why would it be pronounced as Ma-te?
>>54223057
http://mate-desktop.org/
>The name “MATE”, pronounced Ma-Tay, comes from yerba maté, a species of holly native to subtropical South America. Its leaves contain caffeine and are used to make infusions and a beverage called mate.
>>54222857
>800 ram for a video
jesus what
>>54223144
i like chav-linux better
ubuntu-bloke
I want to fuck KDE's mascot.
>>54223795
welcome to the age of javascript abstract meme programming and shitty optimizations lel
>>54224268
the giant cog or the "K"?
Only distro I've seen that has something as simple as a mouse acceleration slider. Not sure about constant acceleration (i.e. make the mouse go slower or faster, but without relying on the speed).
>>54224312
No, Konqi.
>>54224321
>using mouse acceleration
Surely you jest
>>54209988
Tried Gnome, didn't like it
Tried KDE, didn't like it.
Tried XFCE, hated it.
Tried Windows 10, loved it but fuck that spyware.
So what to try next?
>>54224339
cinnamon?
>>54224335
I want to DISABLE mouse acceleration, which you can only do in Gnome through a config file, not the Settings GUI. And then I want to ENABLE constant negative mouse acceleration, so I don't have to switch DPI when I move from Windows to Fedora. This isn't actual acceleration because it isn't a derivative of speed, I basically just want it slower.
>>54224357
You disgust me.
Quite a bit, actually.
>>54224380
why not just lower the sentitivity
Who /openbox/ here?
>>54224397
Because the lowest setting is still too high.
>>54224339
>hated xfce
>loved win 10
try leaving
Krunner is far beyond the compition, meaning if you have tried to use kde, using anything else will be hard.
Kwin has a lot of nice features and they are easy to access thanks to the graphical frontend to the config files
Kde hotkeys are really nice, being able to search through them makes it easy to find the thing you are looking for and change anything if you need to.
The kde file dialog is really good. You can write stuff in the filter field and only show the files you want.
The applications are generally better than the alternatives (dolphin vs nautilus, kate vs gedit, kompare vs meld, gwenview vs eye-of-gnome, etc)
The widget system has been drastically changed from 4 to 5, so they are totally worthless now.
The activities system is a weird concept and it isn't really made that well (maybe I am using it wrong)
The new flat theme is not that good, but a lot of people seem to like it.
There is bugs in almost every feature and it seems like everything is developed and then released without any followup.
There is good and bad about every system. If every feature they have now would suddenly worked as intended, it would be a very good system.
But it is more likely that when that day approaches kde will make a new version so there will be something else to fix.
>>54221595
>two customizable and completely optional clocks
>folders placed optionally on desktop of person likes that
FTFY
>>54220382
Why do you have Chromium and Firefox? Why do you have an extra clock on your dektop? Why does your taskbar/panel have 2 firefox and 2 chromium icons? Why is Chromium on the right and on the left? Can you even read the numbers on that CPU usage graph?
And for fuck's sake why is there a folder on the desktop?
>>54224557
not him but
>And for fuck's sake why is there a folder on the desktop?
is there any other use for desktop than keeping folders and shortcuts on it?
>>54224581
Wallpapers, you savage.
>>54224664
>looking at your desktop
>throwing away the easiest and most productive way of showing icons and folders for just looking at pictures
>>54224704
>>throwing away the easiest and most productive way of showing icons and folders
So a file manager?
The biggest indicator that someone is tech illiterate is when over 20% of their desktop is icons. Especially if it's
>accounting-September-2015
>accounting-September-2015(1)
>accounting-September-2015(1)(1)
>accounting-September-2015(1)(1)(1)
>>54224736
>how do i open x file\folder
>i go to my file manager
>i navigate to the disk the folder its on
>i go down the folder tree to get to the desired file\folder and then open it
>simple convenience, you know?
>>54224373
OK, I'll try that tomorrow.
>>54224780
Or you add it to the favorites section that exists in pretty much any file manager.
>>54224862
so instead of using a small part of a gigantic area i should use a gigantic part of a tiny area? thanks for the advice.
>>54224450
Does it help that I only tried it because it came pre-installed on my new Thinkpad?
Was going to install Arch anyways, but wanted to make sure everything worked first, to eliminate hardware issues from potential errors I would encounter.
>>54224912
>a gigantic part
What? A favorite in Nautilus uses about 20 pixels of height, and the width is draggable.
>of a tiny area?
Again, what? You can full-screen a file manager.
Use whatever you want, but stop trying to make it look like all the alternatives give you AIDS, especially when you have clearly never tried them.
>>54224993
by gods autism is real.
>>54224339
Windows Vista had pretty nice design.
>>54225013
>can't form a coherent retort
>le epic autism maymay from 2011 xD
Ok dude.
>>54224433
This font rendering
>>54225054
Not going to install a different OS, only switching DE's.
>>54219566
Is there a way for using Manjaros Maia Design in Kubuntu? Don't want to use a rolling release yet.
>>54225123
Did you open it in fullscreen? I think it looks fine.
If you can show me a better one I'd be curious.
>>54225163
>>54225307
To me, my rendering looks better and I like my font more.
>>54225346
Your Firefox fonts are bad rendered and are fucked up. Your "Mouse and touchpad" window is rendered differently.
