ITT: Things that Windows users will never know or experience.
I'll start, they'll never know what it's like to have only <200mb being used while idle.
Unused memory is wasted memory.
>>54199548
That's why my memory is for applications, not bloated system processes :^)
>>54199505
That isnt <200mb
Also, a tweaked W10 is able to achieve ~150mb on idle.
>>54199608
How much is it then m8
>Windowsfags will never know what it's like to update all their packages with a package manager
>>54199505
>things archfags will never know
Arch users will never know what an actual pussy feels like
>>54199505
4GBtotal used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 15478 191 15142 70 143 15078
Swap: 0 0 0
>>54199505
dmenu
>>54199648total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 20068 6521 133 6222 13414 7180
Swap: 4095 579 3516
>>54199638
>How much is it then m8
You don't need to be a genius to realize 241mb isnt <200mb
>Windowsfags will never know what it's like to update all their packages with a package manager
github.com/OneGet/oneget
>>54199555
Why not let the system use that memory for file system cache etc? And just let it go when it is needed by your applications?
>>54199685
>6521
You seriously don't know how to handle properly a computer.
>>54199705
i'm actually running programs
>>54199714
Pleb.
>>54199505
accidentally bricking your motherboard while deleting everything in your system root
>>54199881
>accidentally bricking your motherboard while deleting everything in your system root
What the fuck?
That doesn't happen... to anyone...
>>54199891
there's at least one MSI motherboard with a non-standard UEFI bios that is unable to boot with a blanked configuration
>>54199891
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=rm+rf+uefi
>>54199881
Ehehehehe.
>>54199608
yeah and totally cripple your system's utilities
>ITT: Things that Windows users will never know or experience.
how to survive without drivers.
>>54199891
Arch mounts UEFI partition in rw mode for systemd utilities.
why is everything closed on sundays
i want pizza reeeeee
>>54199967
Pizzahut is open :^)
>>54199647
SAVAGE
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>>54199891
>>54199881
It only happens to certain MSI motherboards with a faulty EFI implementation. If you erase the EFIVARS on these affected motherboards, the motherboard gets bricked. Windows is actually capable of bricking the motherboard in the same way because it's not a Linux or Systemd problem, it's a motherboard problem.
>>54199505
Tweaking my finnicky hobbyist OS for 2 hours
>>54199647
Everyone was birth from pussy... it's overrated, and you're dumb
>>54199991
>Tweaking my finnicky hobbyist OS for 2 hours
Yopu don't have the option to, though :^)
>>54199997
Cesarean section...
>>54199505
Shit man, i need that terminal color Palette.
>>54199505
wat? You want all your ram used, even if it's just caching shit.
>>54199638
But I do. In virtualbox. The kernel update also broke it. Definitely perfect as a daily driver. Giving you convenient excuses to skip work to debug your system.
>>54200248
>wat? You want all your ram used, even if it's just caching shit.
Why would I want half of it being used on redundant and bloated system processes?
I want it to be used for applications.
>>54199505
they'll never know ubuntu filling up /boot and complaining about it being full and needing manual admin to fix it fuck thats annoying
def things_windowsfags_will_never_know():
return 241<200
>>54199647
No one on /g/ will know
>>54199505
>GTK
>>54199703
Why not accept that more than half the RAM windows or ubuntu is using is just botnet tools ... dont tell me they need to read my whole disk every day without a reason and no its not indexing cuz its off
>>54200294
Jesus Christ, why don't you Google how RAM actually works
Having to search for hours to find a compatible program, or running all kinds of sketchy shit just to get it to work.
>>54201201
>running all kinds of sketchy shit just to get it to work
Sounds just like Windows.
>>54201218
it really does. After getting used to package management and repositories, websites to download Windows software from keep reminding me of used cars salesmen or the niggers annoying you at beaches trying to sell sunglasses.
I'll never know what it is using an OS with no functional compositor or window server.
I'll never know what it is using an OS with no hardware accelerated video decoding on web browsers.
I'll never know what it is using an OS unable to hibernate unless you use a concrete combination of hardware and software.
I'll never know what it is using an OS where you have to manually compile shit to have several versions of the same program coexist because the "wonderful" package managers are unable to handle this basic use case.
I'll never know what it is having to check if all the hardware components are supported before buying a new computer.
>>54199505
we knew,
but it was 15 years ago.
>>54201330
Even for someone pulling random shit out of his ass, you did a horrible job.
>>54201330
>I'll never know...
Then you should probably go out and finally replace that Commodore 64 with something a bit more modern. Pretty much everything on your list can be handled by Windows, GNU/Linux, and OS X. Pick one and welcome yourself to the 21st century.
>>54201415
Except for GNU/Linux, of course.
>>54201116
>Jesus Christ, why don't you Google how RAM actually works
I know how it works you retard.
I'm saying that on Wangblows or Ubuntu it would be spent on some useless shit that I don't even need or use.
>>54201424
No, it handles all of that just fine as well.
I know that "feel" though.
I run XP.
>>54201330
>I'll never know what it is using an OS with no functional compositor or window server.
wat
>I'll never know what it is using an OS with no hardware accelerated video decoding on web browsers.
Works in chromium
>I'll never know what it is using an OS unable to hibernate unless you use a concrete combination of hardware and software.
Hibernation works best in Gnu/Linux. On windows it always broke some of my programs forcing me to restart my computer.
>I'll never know what it is using an OS where you have to manually compile shit to have several versions of the same program coexist because the "wonderful" package managers are unable to handle this basic use case.
This doesn't happen.
>>54201451
>I run XP.
It's not supported anymore, why would you keep using it?
>>54201464
Because he thinks it makes him look like an "old school" computer user, and he's too stupid to use a UNIX-like OS for the "actual" old school poser image.
>>54201437
Nope. All the compositors are buggy as fuck, hardware accelerated video decoding isn't enabled by default in any browser and forcing enable it causes crashes (for example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1463598), hibernate doesn't work reliably, especially when using propietary drivers, you can't install multiple versions of any program on most package managers, and of course the last one doesn't even need any explanation.
But keep believing everything is fine. I bet that 1% marketshare and the people that go back to Windows after trying Linux is just some Microsoft conspiracy! Year of Linux on the desktop!
>>54201507
Yeah, man, Linux is, like, totally stupid or something.
>>54199505
You're right, because people with Windows are actually using their computer to do things other than take screenshots of terminals.
>>54201524
>i liek vidya gaems
That's okay. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
>>54201524
>You're right, because people with Windows are actually using their computer to do things other than take screenshots of terminals.
Like play videogaymes?
>>54201545
>>54201548
LMAO
Gnu/Linux master race hivemind.
>>54201578
Less hivemind and more just pointing out the obvious little kid still obsessed with gaming.
>>54201433
Apparently you don't.
Look up the memory hierarchy so you gain an understanding of why it's important to use as much memory as possible on frequently / recently used resources even if said resources aren't currently being used. Cache misses cause a lot of cycles to waste waiting on retrieving from a disk.
>>54201588
I get it but you can't honestly tell me that on Windows all those fucktarded processes are actually useful for resources and not just bloat for telemetry or downloading the latest Windows10 update files.
>>54199505
they'll never know the wonders of setting up a flexget script that shits itself and stops working all the fucking time.
>>54199505
frynotsure.jpg
What difference does it make if you're idling? You like to do nothing but stare at your stat indicators?
>of course he does, this is fucking /g
>>54201723
this
>no documentation of possible configuration in config.yml file
>have to look at old user configuration and adapt that to your own user configuration
>half the time the old user configuration shit is outdated and you have to look through a fucking huge log to check for the updated configuration lines
fuck flexget. Like seriously. I'm sure it's great once it's finally set up, but why can't they make it more user friendly instead of me having to go dig up through the internet and old user files just to know what configurations are fucking possible and not.
I thought this was going to be a simple process, but I've spent half a day writing my fucking config file just because of the fucking asswipes lack of documentation.
>>54201763
>What difference does it make if you're idling? You like to do nothing but stare at your stat indicators?
Because it's interesting to see compared to Windows when it would be eating a MINIMUM of 1.5gb at all times no matter what.
>>54199505
>241mb of ram usage
uninstall your shitty bloat and maybe you'll get it to normal levels OP
>>54201872
i-i-i-i-i-i don't have any...
>>54199714
>programs
>not apps
Kill yourself gramps
>>54199909
>>54199953
>>54199987
But isnt that a good thing? Delete proprietary closed shit and put your cfw
Bloatfags everywhere
54 MB
Posting on /g/ in riced browser
>>54202018
>python
Uninstall that bloat
>>54202018
>uptime
>>54199548
>Run Linux with 2Gb of single channel RAM all day every day
>Cant use Windows because of RAM ussage
How does it feel to spend 80$+ on RAM just to get your OS to work, faggot?
>>54199647
>tfw sex every weekend
>tfw Ubuntu and Arch
>tfw it has literally nothing to do with your OS
WINKEK BTFO
>>54202109
This.
When I used to use Windows it was simply fucked.
Do ANYTHING and you're at 3gb usage
>>54199997
As a person born by C-section, I'm offended tbqh
>>54202018
>uzbl
Ah, the teenage years. Just fyi, this is an 18+ board
>>54202018
>look at that VM I boot only to look cool on /g/
>>54201330
>hibernate
It works well on Ubuntu, but top fucking kek, who needs that shit in current year?
>leave PC on if I want to work on it
>shut it down if I dont
>4 second boot time on Arch
>if I want to fall asleep to a video or audiobook just shutdown [time]
People using hibernate in current year have no fucking clue of technology.
>>54201330
>I will never have any clue of GNU/Linux so I'll just pull shit out of my ass
ftfy, faggot.
>>54199505
Windowsfags will never know how it is to be connected directly to Amazon so when you search for, say, a picture of an apple on your HDD, and you search "apple.jpg" you will also get 1000 Amazon ads for various Apple products.
>>54202241
But they do except for a different company
>>54199505
More like ITT: archfags pretend to understand computers
>OP will never know what ram caching is
>>54202292
>Ram caching for telemetry and windows 10 installation
lmao
>>54202241
>Winfags will never get Adds from Amazon
They actually do when using google or Skype
>lolkek I run adblock and dont use Skype
lolkek, I dont run Unity on Ubuntu, so your whole argument doesnt apply to me.
On the other hand:
>Linuxfags will never know what its like to get monitored 24/7
>Linuxfags will never know what its like to get literally all your data sent to companies and governments
>Linuxfags will never know what its like to get all your privacy and security restricted
Top kek, kill yourself.
>>54202317
>gets btfo
>still tries to act like he's superior
lmao indeed
>>54199684
this
if you don't use i3 or awesome, you're basically a winnoob and should die
>>54202377
But then the world population would be 27 people
>>54202168
Not a vm...
>>54202360
How am I getting btfo?
Windows does not use all that memory to improve your performance. It uses it for bloat.
Why do you think 6-year old laptops with shit processors and <4gb of memory function amazingly with a lightweight distro in comparison to Windows?
>>54202413
sure
>>54202458
It's a Pentium M rig with 512 MB of RAM
>>54202476
post screenshot of dmesg | grep -i hypervisor
Can you share your zsh config please, OP? I just want a barebones and nice setup to build upon
>>54202581
>zsh
hipster shell detected
>>54202581
Why not using fish?
The friendliest shell out there. :^)
>>54199987
Yeah but linux isn't actively trying to prevent it. For some reason the dev behind the thing at fault chose to continue mounting rw 100% of the time instead of only when necessary.
>>54200047
>>54202155
How's it feel having a shit immune system?
>>54202607
>le zsh is bad meme
>>54199505
jokes on u
60mb idle
>>54202848
>fagian
Lmao the creator killed himself because he was a beta, just like you
>>54202888
Get a load of this alpha
>>54202757
>linux isn't actively trying to prevent it
Do you mean the kernel or systemd here?
Either way, I agree that it would be nice, but they're under no obligation -- it's the hardware's fault.
>For some reason the dev behind the thing at fault
But Lennart/Kay/whoever isn't at fault.
>chose to continue mounting rw 100% of the time instead of only when necessary.
Even before systemd, mounting efivarfs as rw was pretty common, because tools like grub-install/efibootmgr need to modify them.
For instance, look at the Gentoo wiki page for efibootmgr, which suggests rw-mounting: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Efibootmgr#Configuration
>>54202888
name a better distro than debian
protip: you cant
>>54202902
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402
Read that thread and cry.
>>54202888
Actually he killed himself because he got bullied by grill policewomen, just like you were bullied by grills in highschool.
>>54202902
samefagging because I post too fast every time
>because tools like grub-install/efibootmgr need to modify them.
Yeah, and those things could instead be configured to remount as rw while they do their shit since they need sudo anyway.
>>54202915
>name a better distro than debian
For desktops? Literally anything.
For servers? CentOS.
>>54202925
At least i didn't kill myself over it like he did, lmao.
>WAHHH THIS POLICEWOMAN IS BEING MEAN TO ME BETTER KILL MYSELF
- Ian "the meme" Murdock
>>54202504
Did u see the date bro?
That rig is no longer in commission
I got 32 gig and use lots of it now
>>54202917
I read the thread a long time ago.
>>54202929
Unfortunately they don't yet. But yeah, it'd be nice.
>>54202956
>Did u see the date bro?
>That rig is no longer in commission
How convenient, you lying faggot piece of shit.
>>54202965
Lmao fag doesn't know how to minimal
I've been using Arch for a few weeks now (previously used Funtoo for several years). Surprisingly, I've been loving Plasma 5. Systemd, on the other hand...
>>54202935
>litterally anything
>haiku OS
>DSL
>slackware
>>54202377
Stumpwm please
>>54202377
i3 is fucking amazing but don't be a fag.
ram thread?
>>54202935
why are they better than debian
explain
>>54203134
plz, be photoshop
>>54203135
They can't, because they're talking right out of their asscrack.
CentOS is useful, but Debian is the bomb.
>>54203198
Why, what's your problem?
>>54203292
Why do you need all that RAM?
>>54203310
confirmed jelly af
>>54203319
Not this much...
>>54203310
VMs and VM accessories.
>>54203347
You are mad as fuck, I like you
>>54203334
get on my level, kid$ free -m
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 3906 3482 423 360 77 1293
-/+ buffers/cache: 2111 1794
Swap: 4095 468 3627
>>54201507
in ubuntu and fedora everything just werked.
meanwhile on windows 10 i did a driver update and it bluescreened every 5 minutes.
>>54203347
>>54203134
Reich oder dumm?
>>54203660
you know how you can do more with computers than gaymen and post desktop threads?
>>54199647
ad hominem: the post
>>54203011
http://systemd-free.org/
You can switch to OpenRC on Arch, although it isn't officially supported. Works pretty damn well, too.
>>54201464
>>54201482
Why wouldn't I?
It's stable as fuck and it doesn't eat up my computer's resources to render inane animations.
I'm not pretending to be an "old school" guy either, my computer's just old.
>>54203347
niiiiiiice
>>54202754
Because zsh is better
>>54202137
GF busy with Tyrone on weekdays?
>>54202377
nigga dmenu can be added to basically any wm
