Thinking about getting an 8350 and an r9 390 to upgrade from a phenom II 1100t and a 770. Is it too late for me? Have pc games already passed the 8350 and 390? I know zenith and Polaris are coming out soon, but how much of a difference will they actually make? I just want to play 1080p games at 60fps. /v/ told me the cpu is shit and I should get an i5-6600k.
too late for 8350
t. 8350 owner
>>54179381
wait for Zen
>>54179381
Wait for zen.
>>54179381
A 770 can run games at 1080 p just fine 60 fps I'm doing it with a 760 u just need to turn some settings down a bit and get a better cpu get a 6600k
I fell for the AMD cpu meme. Even though I got exactly what I expected out of my FX6300 chip it's a weak performer in many games.
Was on a budget at the time.
I have the money to do an Intel build right now, if I went for an i5 and kept my current GPU (r9 290x) then my framerates would see 40% boost on average, however I'm waiting for the next generation of CPU all together before deciding on a new PC.
In any case it is foolish to buy a GPU right now when the even newer Pascal/Polaris cards are just around the corner.
I'm going to keep living with my mistake until AMD ZEN is released before building a machine that will keep up with the future games.
>ZEN is also going to be a meme but it can't be worse than bulldozer, r-right?
Is zen significantly better than an i5 6600k?
How the fuck are we suppose to know if it hasn't been released yet? you dumb fuck
>>54179557
1100T to 8350 is barely an upgrade. If you were upgrading to an i5 4690K or i5 6600K then it would be worth it though. However with June creeping up you may as well just wait and see since there will be new GPU's with AMD promising better power per watt. Unless you have the 990FX mobo with decent watercooling and OC the crap out of that FX8350 until it's at 4.6Ghz it's utter rubbish, but then you're dealing with a CPU TDP akin to a highend GPU around the 250w TDP ballpark.
>>54179605
I don't know sorry, I'm panicking senpai, I just want to upgrade and it never feels like I'm upgrading at the right time.
now is a good time to upgrade CPU (to haslel or skylake), upgrading GPU would be retarded considering we're weeks away from new GPUs from both nvidia and amd. sadly amd doesn't seem to be putting out any new gaming gpus until 2017 though, we're most likely only going to see a low end 460/470 tier card from them.
>>54179381
Zen is coming out and you want to buy an AMD CPU now? Don't be retarded OP.
>>54179629
Zen is at the very least going to be on par with Haswell IPC. What I want to know, and no one knows, is if there's any new instruction sets they're going to be introducing in Zen.
>>54179695
Intel/Nvidia shill please fuck off.
>>54179718
>facts that i don't agree with are shilling
go back to india h1b nigger
How close is zen? i5-6600k looks very tempting.
>>54179758
Won't happen before holidays.
Just realized my motherboard only supports amd. Looks like I need to get a new motherboard anyways. Fuck my shit.
Whatever dude
If you cared you'd do research yourself instead of asking a mongolian throat singing forum
>>54179891
wat
>>54179891
you will need a new mobo no matter what, most am3 mobos that can support bulldozer/piledriver cpus with a bios update won't have the power delivery required for them and throttle heavily under load.
An R9 390 is a great GPU an will still be good even when games actually switch to DX12. An FX-8350 is just not a good gaming CPU though. It's single threaded performance just sucks, and games are thread limited. Wait for zen or go Intel.
>>54179556
This
>>54179381
Just upgrade to a I5 if zen is shit it will likely be faster either way anyway mate.
I am waiting till june july to get a 490
>>54179607
someone screenshotted my post im internet famous now!
>>54180357
>>54180267
alright I'll go intel. 6600k or 6700k? I'm mainly playing games. Thanks family.
>>54179381
It's not really worthwhile. I'm using a 1090T and have found it holds up really well with an overclock. What gaymes are you having trouble playing at 1080p/60fps? I'm currently working through Dragon Age: Inquisition, Dark Souls 3 and The Witcher 2, with some Dirt Rally and Project CARS on the side, and none of them are limited by my 1090T. And I'm using an overclocked GTX 780. There's no way it's limiting your 770. Have you actually checked CPU usage with something like Afterburner's OSD?
>>54180267
>games are thread limited
This is a stale meme desu senpai. Gaymes have been much, much more heavily-threaded for a couple of years now. I generally see pretty good usage across all six cores in newer titles. In fact, older gaymes like WoW and the original Witcher are where I get heavy CPU bottlenecks, because they rely so heavily on 1-2 cores.
>>54180414
6600k is more than enough
Hold onto your 770 until Polaris stay away from Pascall the DX12 performance will likely be shit and its like twice the price
i have a 770 4gb oc and its capable
>>54180436
I initially had my cpu overclocked to around 4.0, but it started failing. Everything runs okay now at medium settings, I just want something decent for the new games coming out and dx12.
>>54180436
>Gaymes have been much, much more heavily-threaded for a couple of years now.
only AAA console ports like GTA5 are. PC exclusive games are still reliant on single thread perf (like arma 3) and lesser known/indie devs still shit out bottlenecked games.
>>54180537
>ARMA 3
It runs like shit because the devs havent upgraded the engine since 1990s
>>54180493
But the thing is, you're almost certainly limited by your GPU, not your CPU. Again, I've bought most of the latest "big" gaymes and haven't seen a CPU bottleneck in any of them, mainly because they use lots of threads much better than in the past. And I'm only running a 3.625GHz overclock at stock voltage (I can do 4GHz, but the extra performance isn't worth it for the extra power draw).
The one title that does struggle massively is Just Cause 3, but that's a technical clusterfuck on so many levels. I just don't see many scenarios where your 770 isn't the limiting factor here. It can't be the case that a 1090T can let my overclocked 780 run wild and free in the latest gaymes, yet is hampering your 770.
My advice is to buy a new graphics card first, before jumping in and buying a whole new platform.
>>54180537
ARMA 3 is but one example, and the one people always use at that. I've yet to meet an indie gayme that requires any significant CPU power either. Perhaps you can provide some examples. I own a fucking ton of indie trash on Steam from bundles, so I can probably check.
>>54179381
wait for zen
>>54179381
just do it
have a 9370 with an r9 270x and my main issue is that i alt+tab from games and forgot to actually quit because i dont notice any performance drop until i start to play with another game(the vga is a bit faulty somewhere)
if you can get a fury or fury x tho, the hbm memory worth it
but yeah maybe just wait for zen
>>54180564
do you think I would be better off just buying a new GPU instead? Thanks for the feedback
>>54180564
>>54180594
whoops missed the end of your reply. Nvm.
>>54180594
Yes. Worst case is that you have a good GPU that could be put into a new computer.
My advice- get a new GPU, then wait for Zen.
Not because Zen is going to be good, but because once Zen comes out, x86 is not going to get any better.
>>54180594
Absolutely. I'm not trying to kid you here. I sold my 4790K recently because I was planning to buy Broadwell-E and am using a 1090T because I had an old AM3 board sitting around from a previous build. I'd always wanted a Thuban and so bought one to tinker with. They hold up surprisingly well. In 95% of the gaymes I play, I've noticed zero difference from the 4790K, in that I can still achieve a locked 1080p/60fps, which is all I want.
I've actually put my Broadwell-E plans on hold while I have a think about how much CPU power I actually need. I may now stick it out and wait for the first affordable 8-core, be that Zen or Skylake-E or something else.
>>54180572
>>54179699
>>54179507
>>54179416
>>54180642
>>54180611
thanks for the non-meme replies. Appreciate it
>>54179381
fucken wait for zen and polaris
>>54179381
Using a FX8350. Its great.
>>54180642
Nice! Thuban is still going strong i see.
If you want, buy better gpu, but cpu market is now shit, so wait a little.
>>54179381
I have fx-8350 and would take that intel over this.
The only fx chip to buy is the 8320e which you then overclock to 4.5ghz+. Still at this late stage I would consider an Intel chip if waiting another 8 months is off the cards.
While the 770 has been murdered by its competition a 390 isn't that far ahead of in the grand scheme of things. Overclock the 770 as far as you can cool it for now.
Can amd use ddr4 by now? If now, why even consider?
I have a fx8320e and can't wait to get some money and buy a fucking i7. I will never buy amd cups anymore.
>>54181038
It doesn't offer much in the way of benefits over high speed DDR3 until you start hitting mega density dimms (which is irrelevant for the overwhelming majority of gaming pc's).
>ITT, /v/ trying to talk about CPU
Wait for zen or get an intel cpu.
AMD gpu's are fine though, being a r9 290 onwer myself.
I just upgraded my graphics card from a HD7870 to SLI GTX 970's (I got them cheap, otherwise I would've got a 980Ti). But my 8350 was bottlenecking the cards to the point where games would run better with a single 970. If you can afford it, go for a higher level Intel CPU or something.
>>54179556
If you turn settings down almost every card can achieve 60fps, we're talking ultra here m8
8350 is worthless. It won't be much better than what you have now unless you're doing number crunching, but then you'd still be better off getting Intel.
>>54181012
>>54181043
i have an 8320e too, it's a great value cpu but it's absolutely terrible for gaymen. an i3 is priced similarly and offers pretty much superior performance across the board for gaymes.
>>54182633
It really doesn't.
>>54183199
>CoD Benchmark
My 8320 has been great for the past 3 years. With that said, today i would not do it with Zen so close. 3 years ago it was a good choice when i got it on sale for 99 bucks brand new.
Also depends on your workload. I heavily heavily multitask demanding programs, and seldom game (play a few AAA games, some rocket league). Never have any issues with gaymens but if thats your explicit upper bound for stressing your rig, you can do better.
>>54183219
Is this more to your liking?
>>54183256
Not sure if b8 or you're actually retarded
>>54183287
Elaborate.
The statement was that an i3 was faster across the board, which is an incorrect claim.
>>54179381
You will not gain any reasonable performance boost if you overclock your 1100t somewhat close to the 8350 stock levels of 4.0 GHz and boost your NB and HTT frequency as phenoms love those two being high. And to get a decent overclock on 8350 you will need fairly expensive and high quality motherboard with good VRM and NB cooling, much likely you will have to ghetto-mod small fans on VRM heatsinks, not to mention that the CPU itself will require very good air or water cooler. You will eventually end up spending more or equal money compared to brand-new i5-6400 or i5-6500 build with random cheap motherboard and using stock Intel heatsink which is enough.
So, no, OP, don't waste your money on 8350 - this is not an upgrade in your case by any means. Wait for Zen or buy an i5 system for gaming.
