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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/DujvzEzU
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
first for just buy a macbook and move out of your mums basement you neet piece of shit
>>54172447
WHAT IN FUCK IS DONE TO THIS POOR LAPTOP? STUPID FAGGOT AMERICAN WITH MACINTOSH PHONE AND GIANT ORIFICE OF BOWEL LOOKS AT PERFECTLY FINE MACHINE OF INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AND SAYS "NO, LAPTOP NEED LESS DUMB FEATURES ON IT"?
WHAT IS REASON FOR ISLAND KEY? IF YOU NEED TO TYPE QUICKLY IN EMERGENCY, NOW FINGERS TWISTED INTO PAINFUL ANGLE AND YOU MISS EVERY KEY! LOOK AT WRONG ANGLE OF SCREEN VIEWING! LOOK AT CHEAP PLASTIC CASE THAT CRACK LIKE TRASH FROM CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY! WHERE DID POINTING STICK GO?
I HEAR OF CANCER OF MACINTOSH IN AMERICA. ADDING ISLAND KEY TO LAPTOP MEANS YOU CHANGE OTHER PARTS. WHAT ELSE YOU FUCK? YOU PUT CHEAP SOLDERED RAM? HOW ABOUT BAD SCREEN OF TWISTED NEMATIC DESIGN AND ASPECT OF HOLLYWOOD TO SHOW OFF AT CAPITALIST COFFEE HOUSE AND NEVER COMRADE CAN SEE WHEN SIT NEXT TO YOU?
SURE, IS ONLY CHINESE SLAVE FACTORY COPY TYPE BUT IS STILL PROUD DESIGN OF RICHARD SAPPER. THIS IS LIKE SENDING HIM BIRTHDAY CARD WITH SEVERED OFF THUMB OF DAUGHTER IN ENVELOPE. "HAPPY BIRTHDAY COMRADE SAPPERI! I PISS ON ALL YOU CREATE!" LARGE MOUND FORMS OVER LANDFILL BY CONSTANT TUMBLING OF ANGRY MACHINE SPIRITS. IS FAULT OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
LAPTOP WAS FINE BEFORE YOU FUCK IT. NOW IS TRASH. MAYBE YOU CHECK IN FACTORY AND ORIGINAL DESIGN OF CASE AND KEYBOARD ARE STILL THERE. MAYBE IS NOT TOO LATE TO KEEP LAPTOP SOMETHING NOT SHAMEFUL TO TAKE TO PLACE OF EDUCATION OR WORK. TAKE SHIT OF GOAT AWAY AND COULD STILL BE GOOD LAPTOP.
>TFW can't use my comfy x100e because heatsink is busted and the new one is in transit.
Btw tpg is the x220 more comfy than the x100e?
>>54172537
Yes. X1**e series aren't real Thinkpads anyways.
Hey /tpg/. I have an old x201 that's about to kick it soon, and I'm wondering if any other models can accept some of the parts. The screen, keyboard, RAM, HDD, charging cable, and some other components are all still in good shape. Can I put some of those in an x220 or a T500? Or, is my best bet to get another x201?
>>54172645
https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd010141
>>54172668
Thanks anon, that's exactly what I was looking for.
Anyone got any advice on x201 vs x220. secondhand laptop place near me has a couple. the x220's just under double the price of the other
what linux should i install on my x60? i haven't used it for a while, but now my hands have started to hurt after i've typed a lot on my new retina macbook
i'm running crunchbang now but it's kill
>>54172782
Xubuntu
how do i underclock/overclock my cpu since they dont give a option in bios
t420 btw
>>54172749
if one of the x201s has an IPS panel, get that.
>>54172782
moar pics of QT pls
>>54172782
Crunchbang Plus Plus (#!++) or BunsenLabs
Same thing, newer packages. I'm running a modified #!++ on my x230 and the testing/sid repositories.
>>54172447
Living in 5 bedroom three bathroom house alone.No funs,just an android and ps3.Selling shit to pay for new shit (t420 & tactical wifi pineapple) move to city have funs.Fuck your deadjobsBook
i have 80 gbp, what thinkpad do i get
Is going for 16gb on x220 overkill ?
>>54172962
Why would you bother,seriously? What you going to do with 16gb that you can't do with 8gb?
>>54172992
thats what I am asking, never had any machine having more than 8, so I wonder if its overkill or should I spend $ 20 less and go with 8
>>54173045
Right now, its really just future proofing/bragging rights.
>>54172962
Depends entirely on what you do with it. If you do photo/video editing, CAD design, or run multiple VMs, sure 16GB may be nice.
Otherwise, no. Get the best two 4GB modules you can.
>>54173068
>>54173054
>>54172992
thank you familio
How do you like the x240? What are the pros and cons?
>>54173045
On my old laptop I had 1gb ram and it only ever used about 650mb so I thought it was enough, until one day I had a spare 2gb stick hanging around so I installed that and now I always used about 1200mb and its twice as fast. Makes me think that the computer will use as much as it can get. Id like to try 16 one day.
The integrated camera on my T420s is not working. I bought the laptop used, with the Windows 10 upgrade installed.
There's no Camera section in the Lenovo Settings app, and Device Manager doesn't even detect any imaging devices.
I thought it was just the lack of drivers/support in Windows 10, but even when I installed Ubuntu it can't detect a webcam.
Any ideas? Or should I just get my money back.
I want to wrap a t520 for a new look.
What can I upgrade before doing this so I dont have to open it up twice.
I know I can get a 1080p screen and 16gb of memory. It has a i7-2640M 2.80GHz cpu which I think is dual core with hyperthreading called quad. SSD already on my desk ready to put in it.
all i has open was speccy
can someone help explain why its running at these temps?
just put in some new thermal paste
>>54173697
You can upgrade to a real quadcore (i7-2***QM). Maybe get an Nvidia motherboard if you want a graphics upgrade.
>>54173667
Check if it's enabled in the bios, if it's still not working, refer to the t420 hmm and reseat the camera connector
>>54173749
dusty vents?
Should i?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172147955186
>making custom bios
>lelnovo: have to mod the fucking bios, reflash it, etc.
>hp: just put any bmp in a folder on the efi partition
for some reason my t440s is quickly getting loud
the fan starts spinning and warm air comes out of the side as soon as I open Eclipse or something like that
really annoying at uni
>>54173837
>buying a used rubber dome keyboard
>>54173848
Did you leave a CD in the drive?
>>54173779
Cleaned the cpu fan while it was open
Runs at a spicy 85c with this thread up
>>54173763
Is all of this listed somewhere? All the potential upgrades? I was looking through the buying guides but it seems to me that even that has half the cpus wrong.
>>54173242
Shit trackpad and chiclet keyboard really. The trackpad is swappable, but it's a hassle to order parts for something that shouldn't have been shit in the first place. I'd reccomend just getting an x230 or waiting for the x250 to drop in price.
>>54173969
6 row layout is primary issue, not the keycaps
>tfw no recall batteries in the mail
Apparently i dont get next day air mail like that one anon. Did the thing on late Tuesday.
Well, guys, today I brought home my new (and sort of first) thinkpad.
It's a T420S, with the i7-2640M and 16GB RAM. I also think it has the NVS 4200M, because it talks about nVidia Optimus in the BIOS. I have a 500GB 850 EVO arriving this evening, then I will be installing Fedora. Laptop was $215 with tax, and the SSD was $150. Pretty excited.
>>54174552
Trackpad and keyboard are a little worn, but not too bad. All in all it's in very good shape.
>>54174552
>2640m
That has to be custom somehow. The T420s only came with a 2620m for its i7 option. https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd015743
Seriously though, how do you fix these things' battery life? Every replacement battery seller is sketchy as fuck. What's a good external battery?
>>54174625
The t520s say the same thing but there are loads on them on ebay listed with that processor.
>>54174711
Weird. must have been an option they added later on or something.
>>54174777
Its not in the buyers guide but I accepted it after I saw a dozen from multiple sellers.
In addition is there a site somewhere with all the possible upgrades? I want to know everything I can do to a t520 before applying a wrap.
Ayy what's going on in here
More t460s love
>>54174961
I would rather have that T40 there than the T460
>>54175000
I do like it's 4:3 screen, but everything else about the t42 is inferior to anything remotely modern. Still my baby though.
for upgrading the cpu where do you find cheap laptop cpus? what should you expect to pay?
>>54175000
>pick up T42 in the corner
>gpu cracks
nope
>>54175381
You don't. At best, you can replace the whole motherboard.
There was a thing a while back about some chinks making a skylake mobo for the X200 or something, but I don't know where to find one.
>>54174625
>>54174711
>>54174777
>>54174827
Dunno, it is listed as an option on thinkwiki:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T420s
>>54175381
Ebay. Core 2 Duos are cheap as hell, i-series less so. The T9300 I got for my T601F was $25. Sandy Bridge quadcores are around $100.
>>54175413
Not all laptops have soldered CPUs.
>>54175596
are all core 2 duos interchangeable i.e have same socket??
>>54173837
You should. I've been planning to for way too long, I'm gonna get some sleep and sober up, will get one tomorrow.
>>54175688
I did. Someday i will have a fancy all black Model M13... But today isnt the day because there arent any on ebay.
>>54175660
The socket is the same across all generations, but not all are compatible with all boards. A Yonah T60 will only take Yonah CPUs, a Merom T61 can have Middleton's BIOS installed to use Penryn CPUs that have 800MHz FSB, but 1066MHz FSB Penryns will only work in --00 generation Thinkpads.
Was really thinking the t420 screen was going to be as bad as you guys were making it out to be. Just got one today and it's really not terrible, a lil dim but totally livable.
>>54175710
Ah, good boy! I'm on a model F atm, would kill for a clit on it..
>>54175858
Someone in a battlestation thread recommended i get one of those. Looks weird af but i still might.
>>54175888
It's really nice, but big.. So many extra junk buttons to map to whatever shit you want!
>>54175851
Was thinking about changing the 520 screen. Is it being dark after a problem? I saw that googling. Did not know if it was common.
>>54175858
>>54173837
massdrop has an option if you don't mind waiting for it to show up again
>>54175950
forgot link
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tex-yoda?mode=guest_open
>>54175961
Pfft, why not get the Thinkpad™ version of the TEX?
http://www.thinkworldshop.com.cn/pm/51077.html?twsrm2
>>54172537
Not as small... probably not as underperforming either.
>>54172840
You are confusing the regular TN WXGA+ screen and the modded AFFS display which is about just as good as IPS.
>>54172962
Not if you are going to use music editing or photoshop
>tfw 12GB on my T430s
need 16 tho
>>54173837
I didn't care for it.
>>54174892
>T460
How do you like it?
What is it replacing?
>>54175000
>wants to own the worst of all Pentium M era ThinkPads
Have fun sempai
What are the odds a part will work in my t520 if is not listed as an option for the original shit?
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T520
>>54175961
>60%
>>54176013
>2000 Yen
If that isn't rubber dome I'll eat my shoe
>>54175596
Wow I feel that is a steal.
>>54175851
Yeah, I mean I expected a lot worse, I've had a few T420's and some at work, not bad displays.
>>54176035
What part(s) are you considering?
Also I think you might be able to swap a W520 mobo onto it.
>>54176079
>What part(s) are you considering?
>Also I think you might be able to swap a W520 mobo onto it
Going to do some cosmetic wrap to the outside of a 520 I have and looking for any upgrade options before I do so. Would like to have as much done at the same time as possible since Ill be disassembling for the wrap.
>tfw going to buy a thinkpad x260
>tfw won't be using it for programing
>tfw won't be using linux
>tfw won't be doing things like installing programs from terminal
>tfw it will be brand new and expensive as fuck
>tfw will be using it like any other normie laptop
To be fair though i'll be using it for the police academy.
>>54176070
It's yuan, chink money, not jap.
>>54176127
well that's about $280 worse then.
>>54173045
how much of a fucking retard can you be? really, your brain must not function correctly if you contemplate on getting more ram when you never had the need for it; if you'd need it, you'd know, you fucking brain dead monkey!
>>54176166
Stream your meal pls.
How do I replace my screen for my thinkpad t450?
>>54176119
Unless you are going to wrap the bottom or the LCD bezel, you should be fine, for the sides... I think only the express card would be the thing in your way.
>>54176181
kek
>>54176311
probably like this
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvokhDoyQ0s
They are really easy.
You don't need a special cable if you are going from 720p to 1080p IPS, unless you fucked up and got a glossy touchscreen.
Hey /g/ yesterday my trusty t420 mysteriously died. I was doing some light work on word and went to get coffee, when I came back from the kitchen the laptop was completely dead. I tried another power source and didn't worked, the battery was around 90% too. There are no lights whatsoever when I plug the charger in.
I pressed the power button 10 times and held it for 30 seconds as it is advised on similar cases to discharge static, but had no luck. I've tested the ram, hdd, optical drive, keyboard and they are all working fine.
Do you guys have an idea what could be wrong?
>>54176396
Thinkpad goblins senpai. Should have never left your t420 unattended and vulnerable.
>>54172957
An £80 one
>>54176396
Have you checked for broken USB ports?
Very strange case.
>>54172957
>>54176698
x200/t400 or x201/t410 if you're lucky
>>54174552
>>54174582
Jesus Christ, the keyboard is orgasmic. So much better than my HP Pavilion chiclet keyboard.
For those who bitch about the X230 having a shit chicklet keyboard...
>http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=120776
There is a mod to get an X220 keyboard working fully and potentially a T430 with a T420 keyboard... (though they all should be the same, I havent checked FRU's)
I don't believe I have any T420 keyboards laying around to see if I could mod mine yet.
Also remember you have to grind/cut some parts of the keyboard for it to fit into the laptop.
>>54176877
Good to hear, I presume you have the non backlit model?
I've heard that there is a difference in keyboard feel when its backlit, I can confirm my T430s backlit keyboard isn't as great as the non backlit T430 i used.
>buy 8760w for $227 from arrow direct
>came with 4GB RAM, ad 12GB for a total of 16GB for $20 a stick each
>sold it for $600
>ebay, paypal and fedex chewed me to get $220 profit in the end
Didn't stress this laptop to its full potential, its fan blew hard but w/e
>>54172030
What do you guys use your obsolete refurbished thinkpads for? Just web browsing and porn, or do you guys actually do productive work?
Anyone running visual studio?
My two finger scroll isnt working on my t420, any suggestions on how to fix it. Is there a program to track movements? I'm using debian
>>54177240
it's enough for gretl and latex. compiling even, as long as I don't care for palemoon.
>>54177240
Back to your POO street, rajeet
>>54177249
Google is your friends. There's a line of code you have to edit somewhere with Debian-based distros.
>>54177240
What is your definition for obsolete?
Maybe I am biased but I have my T430s on the market on craiglsist, someone said it was outdated and offered $400 for it.
I had it out for $600 w/ the IPS mod (I would of been fine if he offered $500), but its otherwise perfect.
Anywho, my computers are good with being able to web-browse, stream 1080p at a constant FPS, not die with photoshop and play League at highest settings without framedrops under 30fps.
I take my laptops to work but all that is needed is to be able to connect to a camera and post photos and post listings on eBay.
Basic work like every other business.
After is press the ThinkVantage button during bootup, then press F12 I have two of everything.
How do I fix it so theres only one of everything?
It happened while installing Linux
>>54176123
You're better off with a T60 if you're going to use it to beat darkies back in line.
T460s guy here, why don't you dipshits go to the thinkpad subreddit and search for corporate discount code. It werks. When you build a thinkpad it shows nondiscounted prices for parts but they get marked down heavily after selecting them.
>>54177815
you mean the exact same thing that's in the OP?
>>54174625
>>54175557
T420s 2640M i7 processor, not modded
>no backlit keyboard
Literal garbage
>>54177228
Not bad. Now someone has to find how the new EC interacts with the accelerometer and then the APS would work again for **30 and newer series.
>>54178080
One LED for the whole keyboard > one LED for each key
>>54173749
why is the core speed at maximum could be that?,
Ayy. lelnovo actually sent me a free battery. i thought it was a meme.
>>54178144
>chink light
>your hands cast shadows over the keys
You haven't used a backlit keyboard for a meaningful amount of time have you?
>>54177228
Neat.
Interesting news on the keyboard swap.
>>54172030
protip: search for typos of lenovo on ebay
i'm letting you guys snag this deal
also my offers of $100, 150, and 175 were autorejected so you know where to start from
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenono-T440-Laptop-corei5-windows-7-/301929593884?hash=item464c67fc1c:g:kooAAOSw3mpXD9s7&autorefresh=true
>>54178080
go make more pictures of taking your $150 mechanical keyboard with no ins/home/del row, no arrow keys, and no numpad, for a walk in various new locations, like the other keyboard faggots
>>54178386
>le no-no
>>54178251
>i'm literally blind but also can't touch type
backlit keyboards are hideous and inefficient
>>54178432
>backlit keyboards are hideous and inefficient
Then why do the new thinkpads have them?
>>54178447
Because new ThinkPads are hideous and inefficient.
>>54172030
maybe this is for the stupid questions thread but I hope you guys can help me...
Is it a good idea to install powertop and tlp on my x220?
I already have tlp installed and I'm running xubuntu, would I see better battery life if I also run powertop?
>>54178466
Ok, Mr rossmann, go back to your little old ass T520 and 5yo hardware over a damn keyboard.
>>54178480
>Implying it's just the keyboard and not a bunch of things
Typed from my T520 :^)
I have a Thinkpad T23 in my closet. Is it worth anything on eBay?
My x140e. I bought it for university, and it's great.
Replaced the HDD with a SSD, and added a stick of ram for a total of 8 gigs.
>>54177228
you dont need to do any grinding if you get the x220 palmrest to, drops straight in.
>>54178677
Looks cozy, especially for its use.
Was it a bad decision to choose a x220 over x230? $120 difference where i am living.
>>54179295
x220 is GOAT. Does it have the IPS screen?
Battery life is vital
Preferably i5 Sandy Bridge+
Upgradable up to at least 16GB of RAM
Must be 13" ~ 14"
16:10 or 16:9 aspect ratio
What are my options?
>>54179322
t420 and t430
>>54179314
Fuck no. Same with the x230 at my local store, both are TN panels.
Im planning to buy an ips panel from ebay or aliexpress, but kinda hesitate that the Chinks will give me a low quality IPS panel from their "might send a compatible part" policy
ITT: kill yourself moments
>go to replace thermal paste on t42
>spend 20 minutes trying to take it apart
>break two plastic clips
>replace thermal paste pretty easily
>go to start putting it back together again
>completely forget where all the screws go
>half the slots are un-numbered
>two of the longest screws dont fit anywhere at all
>end up putting a screw through the whole thing and straight into the palmrest
I just cant do it /g/. Im fucking ashamed of myself, i just fucked up my nice little oldschool gaming laptop by being a god danm idiot.
It works just fine, but ive needed to put it away before it pisses me off. Its with the other two thinkpads and thinkstation, which are going to go untouched forever now.
>>54179518
You're a big guy for admitting it.
First time I took my T60 apart, I drew a map where all the screws went and their relative lengths (S/M/L).
You'll pay more attention next time and not fuck shit up. Comes with experience.
>>54179518
Happens to the best of us. Take better notes on the screws. I've found the best way is to make a rough sketch of each layer as you go. Place each screw upside down in the appropriate place on your sketch. Another tip is to use different colored sharpies to mark the top of the screw and place the same colored dot next to its hole.
>>54176013
Has anyone bougth anything from this store before? They do offer some nifty shit. Too bad its in fucking Chinese. Also, I seriously doubt that's an actual Yodatex Keyboard.
I feel for the meme and just ordered an t420s off ebay. Will it play csgo?
>>54179295
Not at all
X230 is marginally, to a nearly unnoticeable extent, better in only the cpu department. The only reason the X230 might be considered is for the intel HD 4000 over 3000 which is quite a bit better.
If you don't play the latest games or have a desktop already there is literally no reason to get the X230
>>54178677
Of the really small thinkpads, aside from the x140e, weren't there a couple others that were rather good outside of the X/T/W series?
I might get a smaller one, i'd like to know which ones are the good ones
Can 4gb DDR3L fit in x220 ?
>>54181618
should work fine, all ddr3l does is use less power.
Is it a good deal to buy x60 for 30 bucks without battery? Is usb booting is avaible on this model? Can I mount ssd in it?
Specs:
- 1gb ram
- Core 2 Duo 2x1.83
- 40gb hdd
- 1024x768
I just want to have something to learn programming, lurk 4chin and listen to music eventually watch something in bed.
>>54182721
Yeah it will be good but I'd strongly advise you to look into getting a t440. Lurk ebay long enough and you should get a decent bargain
>>54182840
My budget is very low right now and I want to have something really small.
>>54178386
>not lenonovo
>>54183108
By the time you buy a battery you might as well spend the money on a x200
>>54183158
sweet thinkpad bro
how much does eGPU cost for a t420?,anyoen got a ebay link?
>>54172030
I just put 8gb of ram into my x220, ran screenfetch and that says I only have 3.5gb, what gives?
>>54183158
>Lenonovo
whats a good thinkpad for occasional gaming (older games like battlefield and the original call of duty black ops etc)
>>54183826
32 bit
not seated properply
defective
>>54183826
nevermind just found out its because I'm using 32 bit like >>54183976 said, guess I'll reformat sometime next week
>>54178181
>Ayy. lelnovo actually sent me a free battery. i thought it was a meme.
How long did it take after you submitted the initial form?
I did it on wednesday and havnt received anything past the initial ' We have received your request for a replacement' email yet :(
>>54183826
Nvidia ram.
>>54184902
Ok, I chuckled.
>>54179518
Go get the service manual pdf, it will tell you what screws go where at least.
Looking to do a couple of upgrades to my x220.
Firstly upgrade to the IPS screen.
Do I go for the LP125WH2(SL)(B3) or the LP125WH2(SL)(T1) model? And does anyone know a 'safe' place to buy it from in the UK/Europe.
Also anyone got any recomendations on which mSATA ssds are good? Looking to get a 128gb one.
>>54185057
850 EVO works really nice in my T420. 250gb is only $20 more than the 120gb one too.
>>54183906
none by default. These are business machines not gaming laptops. If you want to game you will have to look at eGPU setups and the best ones for that are probably t420s or t430s because they have socketed cpus
>tfw I've found a bulk seller of t420 thinkpads but the minimum order is 100
I'm not even going to bother ringing up to ask what the unit price is.
>>54185178
>not spending over 10k on thinkpads so you can make a laptop fort
>>54184902
Alright, I have a couple questions about my new 420S.
Is the main drive bay SATA II? Same for the optical bay? I remember reading somewhere that it was. Also, is the mSATA slot SATA II as well?
I want to get better WIFI speeds. I was sort of hoping to see a difference from my shitty HP, but I am still getting around 2MB/s transfer speeds. They are both from around 2011, so I assume it's that 'draft-N' bullshit. My 420S came with the Advanced-N 6205 2x2, would I see any difference if I got the Ultimate-N 6300 3x3?
>>54178470
anyone?
>>54179295
no if it has the IPS screen.
>>54185425
Should be the same as the regular T420. Sata III for the main drive bay and optical bay and Sata II for the msata.
Heyo,
Swap to using my T430 as my main rig is closing in. Before it becomes the only comp in my hands, i'll try to do all sorts of maintenance to prevent problems in the future.
Bought the T430 used, but it was in MINT condition. Original battery was had only gone trough 1 charging cycle.
Still, T430 was build around 2012, right? So even thoguh it's clearly not been used i'm wondering should i change the thermal paste. Planning to use Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra (i5-3320M). Any reason why i shouldn't? What else should i do while i'm at it (besides dusting the guts?)
>>54186684
isn't liquid ultra designed more for sub zero use, and i would replace thermal paste that old regardless of use. It's a pretty easy thing to do.
Is the screen of the X220T interchangeable with the X220 screen? I may be able to get a cheap defective X220T and since they all came with IPS panels, I thought that this would be a great way to upgrade the shitty TN panel, if it's possible.
>>54187086
the x220t is as heavy as a t420
any reason to buy a t420s over a t420?
>>54187662
not as heavy, a tad bit slimmer, usb 3.0
I have bought an used T420 and the only thing bugging me about it, is a gap over the touch pad. I cant slide the keyboard all the way in it seems. Any idea how i could solve that? Or is this normal?
>>54188282
I don't own a thinkpad, but a little gap around your touchpad is normal, I have a gap around my mine
What does /tpg/ think of my new consumer grade thinkpad I scored for $30? I wanted it for its HDMI port, for movie box.
>>54188518
Nice thinkbook.
Does it run OSX too?
>>54188518
wtf is that thing
>>54188761
I put Linux Mint on it for now. I just prefer Linux personally.
>>54188892
Thinkpad Edge series. I think it's a series 14.
My problems with the T420:
1. Ctrl key is in a stupid place, although you can fix this by swapping Fn and Ctrl in bios. It still triggers my autism though since the labels don't match what they do.
2. I keep accidentally opening the DVD drive, the button is super sensitive, I guess I could just swap it for a HDD caddy.
3. No HDMI.
What are your problems with the T420, /tpg/?
>>54189006
It doesn't have a big bottom panel, and you need to remove the keyboard/palmrest to really get in there. Still want one.
>>54189084
>you need to remove the keyboard/palmrest to really get in there.
Removing the keyboard is really easy though.
Much easier than removing the back cover, like you have to do on most laptops and on modern Thinkpads.
My main issues are the shitty screen and the fact it just isn't fast enough for my modern needs.
>>54189174
>Much easier than removing the back cover, like you have to do on most laptops and on modern Thinkpads.
this level of delusion
What would be a good thinkpad to play some games on but nothing super impressive or expensive? what is a good step up from a T420 1600x900?
>>54188282
The gaps on my T420 look identical.
Only difference is electronics that are visible in yours but not on mine. (that's probably what's bothering you).
I suspect you're missing some kind of internal cover.
>>54189270
t450s with 940m
>>54189006
>screen quality
>screen aspect ratio and bezels
>ultrabay design
>runs hot under load even when repasted and running the fan at top speed
>only one headphone/microphone jack with annoying drivers on windows that disable the internal mic when anything is plugged in by default
>linux can't into optimus
It's very much a Thinkpad for people who don't know what Thinkpad they want. Cheap and flexible, but no real strengths.
>>54189373
>one headphone/microphone jack
I understand this because in 2011, any mic youd buy would be a usb, 3.5mm mics died years ago.
>>54189215
It's literally two screws:
One to open the maintenance hatch, and one to unlock the keyboard.
By comparison: on my new T460p it's 8 screws and a whole array of plastic clips that can only be unclipped by ripping the plastic back cover off with force.
>>54189413
It's more the drivers that are the problem. It took me forever to figure out which setting I had to fuck with to make the internal mic work when I had headphones in.
Why do people shorten their battery life by upgrading their T420 resolution from 1024 x 768 to 1600 x 900?
Not worth it tbqh.
>>54189215
I thought it would be hard to get keyboard off. mainly just one screw and you gotta lift keyboard in a certain spot. pops right open. It felt good when i first did it. i was nervous though.
So, I just scored an x201 with the Ultrabase. I have another x201, but it has pretty much shit the bed. The problem is that the new x201 doesn't have a trackpad. While this isn't a huge deal for me, I figured I'd ask, how difficult is it to replace a palmrest on an x201? I'm thinking of stripping my old x201 and adding some parts to the new one. I have very little experience with taking apart computers, and almost none in taking apart laptops.
could this be worth it?
already have some spare HD's
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-T410-Laptop-CPU-i5-M-520-2-40Ghz-No-HD-For-Parts/172175161282?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D777000%26algo%3DABA.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36471%26meid%3Df905f7f3d290422884e748f498138019%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D282010544283
yoda 2 pro any good? what are their pros and cons?
>>54189473
>you gotta lift keyboard in a certain spot.
No, you slide it up (which is possible once you remove that one screw) and then it's fully unlocked so you can lift it out easily.
>>54189537
lenovo adapters are nothing to buy, and a battery is up to you, go for it.
>>54179518
Ok, a bit of an update on this mess, i got some good sleep, and went at it again.
I removed every screw, took the whole thing apart, found that the long screw i put through the palmrest didnt affect anything else, it fit through a big empty space where nothing was.
I finally got the top plastic plate in correctly, and i glued it down as i broke the clips last night.
Its all working, but i have an apple hard drive for some reason which i never noticed before. And the caddy screws are missing, so its being propped up with a rolled up bit of plastic.
Works though, and thats all that matters.
>>54179654
i was just really fucking tired, this was disgraceful for me, im not usually so inept at computer things
>>54179689
ive thought about color coordination on all screws with nail polish, ive got 2 other thinkpads and i intend to replace the thermal paste on them aswell, i dont want a repeat of my t42 fuckup
>>54184979
this is what i ended up doing, but one of the back corner long as shit screws is missing a nut or something, and wont screw in, other than that, every screw is now in the correct place.
>>54189423
>buying shitty laptops
>>54183816
Search for egpu on gearbest, there's a $50 adapter.
>>54189287
Thanks for the info. Any idea on what part it might be, my t420 might be missing?
>tfw starting to want more than my T520
>in talks with mother to give her my T520 and to get a legitimately good laptop, cuz our birthdays are both on the same day (today)
>really want a decent 1080p laptop, used or new, for 300-400
>really like thinkpad aesthetics and design sensibilities, not sure what to buy at this point
pls help friends
>>54190446
The best thing to upgrade towards would be a W520/W530, you get the old design and you can have a quad core with a 1080p screen, and I believe you can put 32GB of ram in it.
The hardware switch for my wireless card sometimes shuts off the wifi completely until I restart it. Is there a fix or am I stuck with it?
This is on my x200
Any thoughts on the Helix (both gens?) seem to go for decent prices on eBay and I've always wanted a detachable.
I'm basically needing a throwaround laptop for travel that won't cost more than $300-$400 so that if I break/get it stolen/etc I won't be too butthurt but the idea of being able to leave the keyboard part and use it as a laptop is appealing in tight spaces, bed, etc
>>54177324
backlit keys make me puke
If you don't know all the keys you need by muscle memory you should just stop using a computer
>>54190614
Anyone else just want backlit for the aesthetics? I mean I've been touch typing since I was like 10 but I still want backlit for the look.
>>54188518
The amount of diarrhea shit that Gookovo has managed to cover the Thinkpad line with never fails to amaze me
>>54189498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-85SSvVxhWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utqjm4hrpAA
lel
>>54190724
Seriously, what were they thinking?
>>54190667
>for the look
I'm sick of this meme
>>>/fa/
I miss the days when computers weren't marketed as fashion accessories for consumertards
It takes a large effort in 2016 to even find a good laptop because there is a mountain of shit marketed to the pseudo-intellectual le geek cancer that likes to discuss how thin their new toy is over cum frosted lattes at the local obscure coffee shop
>>54190724
top lel
>>54190786
>no capslock
>touch keys
what the fuck is this
Got a 460p and it's nice, love the 1440p but while watching something that had a complete black screen I noticed the top left corner of the screen isn't completely black but has some light green light coming in from the side, similar to when you press on the screen. Is this a warranty case, something that I can give a couple of days to see if it's going to go away on its own?
>>54190720
Thanks m8. Seems pretty straightforward.
>>54191012
>>54175021
T42 is a realy good retro gaming machine
I use it and it can max out unreal turnament 2004
>>54191030
>>54191012
>Security lock on that piece of garbage
Two keks.
>>54174961
t42 is love
>>54175403
what had one for years and it never broke but tbf I realy take care of it
>>54191057
If they stole it they would have to probably pay someone to use it
>>54190859
I have the same setup, but I don't have that problem.
Depends on how bad it is I guess.
Usually warranty on screens are very loose.
btw: did you discover the screen test at the "hardware diagnostics" boot option? - pretty nice to test these kind of things and be sure it's not an OS issue.
>>54177240
GNS3, programming, virtualization
>>54190483
Thanks, friend. <:
>>54191116
Haven't done that yet but I'll try it later.
It's hard to photograph but here is what it looks like in the dark. The bigger areas are just light reflection but there's two spots on the top that annoy me to no end every time the screen is black.
>>54191345
Hope you paid for the onsite warranty anon.
Reseat the screen bezel? Maybe a screw is over tightened?
>>54190999
That looks comfy as fuck desu
>>54191378
If I send it in within 30 days of purchase they'll just send me a replacement. I'd rather try that than make it worse myself. Thanks mate.
>>54191199
vad är tempens like?
>>54191531
No idea. I'd check if I had everything running. But it doesn't feel hot to the touch and the fan noise is barely noticeable.
>>54191345
>not getting a VA display
IPS is only good for graphic designers, VA is the best for consuming media
>>54173916
The T440s doesn't have an optical drive.
>>54172529
maximum kek
>>54190786
>>54190835
>>54190724
You can replace the trackpad with one from a T450.
Quickly /g/ Thinkpad historians and collectors, post rare thinkpads you want!
Are there any rare Thinkpads to look out for?
There is a cheap 755C on sale locally but they seem to be worthless in terms of monetary value. Would still be nice to have.
Some models that could be called rare:
The Transnote
W700DS
701C
IBM 755CV/CDV
730TE
IBM 700T
240Z
Power PC 800
>>54191743
yes because now you have to unfuck Lenovo's design blunder yourself fresh out of the box... It's like a feature
>>54191743
>no touchpad buttons on either one
The trackpoint is in a shitty position on most larger (15") thinkpads
>>54191757
Relax, Lenovo fixed it with the T450 and T460
>>54191744
That one with the folding keyboard. Was it the 701C?
>>54191345
You've shown me yours so I'll show you mine.
First a normal picture to show what it looks like to the naked eye.
The recycle bin and the cursor indicate the top corners, and serve as a reference to white.
>>54191767
Yeah, that one even made it into the NY museum of modern art
>>54191821
And the same, but with a higher ISO and longer shutter time to emphasize the difference in black levels.
This shows there are some "light leaks", but nothing I could see with my own eyes, only the camera (set to f/1.4, ISO 6400 and 1/25s) could capture it.
>>54191766
yeah, they fixed one out of a hundred fuckups while not listening to the community regarding numerous design changes. All they had to do was continue making quality machines and instead they decided they will start making consumer-tier trash
>>54191744
>tfw let a perfectly fine W700DS slip for less than 400USD
>>54191864
>>54191345
Why are cheap IPS screens so shit? Even my HP compaq with a TN display is better.
>>54191663
It wasn't an option.
>>54191864
This is unfortunately what it looks like to the naked eye for me.
So I am having some problems with my new T420S.
I am trying to install Fedora and it worked OK for the first few hours of the install, but then it became unstable and eventually would not boot. I try to input my encryption password and it just does not boot. It drops me to the dracut terminal.
When I boot the live image it is very unstable, with lots of graphical errors, eventually crashing and forcing me to log out.
Also, the laptop will not stay off. I turn it off (either from within the live image or manually by holding the power button), and it turns off, but then a few seconds later it will power on on its own.
The temps looked fine when the install of Fedora was working. I am currently running memtest to see if it's the memory.
Any suggestions or ideas?
>>54192024
sounds like your computer is haunted
>>54191951
you son of a bitch
>>54191958
IPS has advantages and disadvantages when compared to TN.
Black levels is a weak point for IPS, don't know why exactly.
I am very happy with my T460p screen, btw.
It's certainly not "cheap" in terms of quality, and it's great for outdoor use. (I plan to work outside once the weather gets a little better).
>>54192024
Update:
Upon inspection the two memory modules seem to be mismatched. They are both Kingston 8GB sticks, but one is 1333MHz and one is 1600MHz. Would this cause instability?
>>54190667
Backlighting wouldn't even be necessary if they wouldn't have fucked up the layout in the newer keybards. It's practically necessary now to find those less-often-used keys.
>>54173749
>Just put in some new thermal paste
Probably fucked it up. Try reapplying and make sure you don't trap any air. Also, make sure your thermal sensor isn't faulty.
>have a t440p
>need sidekick buying a x220
- 2540m i5
- 8Gb Ram
- 250GB ssd
- 500GB HDD
- IPS Panel
>rarely use the t440p
Why is the x220 so comfy? Even the speakers got better comparing to a x201. This is the ultimate TP
I recently got a T420 and put some loonix on it. However, suspend/hibernate doesn't work. When i trigger it, it goes into a pseudo-suspended state when the screen is off, the power button is rapidly flashing and the battery keeps going down; also it can't be resumed from, only turned off. A plenty seems to have been written about making suspend work on thinkpads it seems, but I can't seem to find the right solution. Anybody got any ideas?
got a t420, recently got some new drives and did a fresh install of win7.
I've got an SSD with my OS on it, and a terabyte HDD for file storage.
How can I be sure APS is running to protect the HDD and not just running for the mSATA.
>>54193291
>APS
>SSD
>APS a system that tilts the head of a HDD back
Nigga wat?
