>zen
>polaris
>custom apu contract for 3 new consoles worth over a billion
>jv contracts
>server apus
>server gpus
*IF* zen and polaris fail than amd will go bankrupt by 2019 but if they don't than amd is here to stay
No, if Zen fails then AMD is bankrupt and finished even if Polaris succeeds (it won't)
amd's debt levels mean they cannot recover without multiple home run products, they have to literally win the entire cpu and gpu market in order to recover. it's mostly impossible and certainly isn't helped by the fact that they only hire shills and indians these days.
AMD is most likely finished, our only hope is that someone competent at design (samsung, nvidia) can manage to get licenses for all of AMD's IP and start producing x86 CPUs.
It's fairly safe to say AMD won't be going bankrupt by 2019. For one we are basing their economic future off of what we know about early Zen, Polaris, and the R9 400 cards. Chances are AMD, Intel, and Nvidia will loose revenue because consumers won't feel the need to upgarde early.
don't worry, apple will buy them
>>54165894
Oh yeah, I'm sure they'll go bankrupt, just like the last 1000 times you economic experts said it.
>>54166266
>nVidia
>Competent at design
How's that 256bit bus working out for you?
Or 3.5+.5?
nVidia are many things. Competent. Is not one of them.
>>54165894
You forgot to mention that Intel and AMD are in talks about Intel leasing iGPU related IP from AMD.
>>54166306
>nVidia are many things. Competent. Is not one of them.
how isn't that a sign of competence? you realize that the 970's gimped memory bus is a die harvesting technique and wasn't the first time nvidia had done something like that, right?
>>54165894
>server gpus
if there were any money in that, matrox wouldnt still be the market leader.
I'm just going to leave this right here.
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/04/21/2313221/a-new-amd-licensing-deal-could-create-more-x86-rivals-for-intel
>>54166350
>licensing x86 designs to china
some executives are going to get tried for ITAR vilations for this, it's inevitable. also not really surprising considering AMD's links to ISIS and other shady govts, giving away technology to china seems pretty tame in comparison
>>54166350
Fuck AMD are traitors giving American IP to Chinese fuck the shitty company should be abolished
>>54166350
Why do AMDrones support the chinese botnet?
>>54165894
Stock price up 25% after hours, from $2.62/share to $3.25. And that's without release of Zen. AMD is back.
>>54166553
If Lisa Su can do one thing, it's certainly improve investor confidence.
>>54165894
Polaris already failed since it's rebrands muh low TDP pussy cards. Zen is not looking so hot from what I've read either. Guess the writing is on the wall.
I just want to buy a new card to go with my 8350. Release some info on the Polaris release date you faggots. Should I just get an r9 390?
>>54166581
>Zen is not looking so hot from what I've read either
Please, do direct us to this reading.
As so far as I've seen, AMD have said nothing about Zen outside of
>14nm FinFet
>SMT
>Expected 40% IPC increase over Excavator
And that was mentioned at AMD's Financial Analyst Day back in January.
I won't bother copy pasting my previous post on Zen's estimated performance, instead I'll just throw it here (>>54165241)
>all the Nvidia shillposting in this thread
You guys need a real job
AMD stock just went up 25% after Q1 earnings report, they're doing something right
>>54166687
nice
time to sell
Being in massive debt does not equal automatic bankruptcy. Plenty of companies operate in perpetual debt.
>>54166687
3.30
Nigga damn.
That's quite a jump.
Are AMD the greatest money printing machine for investors ever?
>Buy at 1.8
>Sell at 3.3
>Money bath
>>54166713
Even then "Massive" doesn't really sum it up.
AMD are, what, 1.6 Billion US in debt?
That's 1 good quarter to pull them into the black.
For an International company the size of AMD to be 1.6 Billion in debt, is nothing.
>>54166718
>>54166710
>crashing a shorted stock 101
It's like you people revel in making good things bad for short term gain
Intel is around 200% faster in single threaded than AMD so 40% zen means absolutely fucking nothing
>>54166758
you hold the bags if you want
>>54166687
>>54166710
>>54166718
It's still going up
>>54166841
Good on them.
Here's hoping it levels out at around 2.9 for a few weeks, no doubt it'll drop in a few hours, maybe a day..question is, drop how far.
>>54166812
lol not even close.
intel is in most cases around 25% faster IPC
>>54166876
Good job replying to the shitposter.
>>54166350
Good. Intel choking the x86 market to death helps no-one.
>>54166841
lol, wait for it..it's going 30%
>>54166876
It's actually closer to 50% on FP and 20-30% on integer
>>54166919
Although with excavator those numbers have been reduced drastically, unfortunately there's no excavator reviews out there, proper ones.
![43ea55ab008d717e2671889fd573438d[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/an3ePOn.png "43ea55ab008d717e2671889fd573438d[1].png")
31%!
>>54166933
SemiAccurate just did a handful of tests with the Athlon 880k
Might find something of use there.
>>54166841
They just licensed their x86 architecture to Chinks
>>54166958
Only X4 845 is excavator
>>54166962
how did they do that? Doesn't their deal with Intel forbid it?
>GOING UP
>Bitcoint
I hope this isn't just wild speculations and come crashing down next week
>>54167018
Intel licenses x86_64 or AMD64 from AMD anyway. AMD can do shit like this.
>>54167033
you wish it ain't, but you know it do
>>54166970
>>54166958
Excavator is notably faster than Piledriver.
http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/threads/419036-Carrizo-volles-HSA-UVD6-VCE3-1-ACP2-HDMI-2-0-und-SOC-aber-immernoch-DDR3/page39
Should bode well for Zen.
>>54167018
Intel owns the x86 license.
AMD owns the AMD64-86 license.
That, and, well, China. Western laws don't exactly apply there.
And there is no doubt some-underkey license objectives that state that X-percent of x86 income goes to Intel, so this deal being for x86 would just essentially mean income for Intel.
>>54166306
>incompetence
They did that shit because they can get away with pretty much anything because they have almost 85% market share.
>>54166475
Every modern x86 processor comes with a botnet coprocessor. If I go the botnet way I would rather get it for cheap.
>>54166266
>le Indians are bad meme
raja koduri is considered legendary in the industry. Stay /g/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6907/the-king-is-back-raja-koduri-leaves-apple-returns-to-amd
>>54167115
Indians are MOSTLY bad, not all of them are.
Please don't respond to American jealousy, we don't want him to drone on about FREEDOM and other deluded nonsense.
>>54167115
Wow, an Indian direct-descended man praising an Indian techie
Never saw that one coming
>>54167134
>Herp
>Derp
>AMD stock on the up and up
>PAXEast just began
Should be interesting.
>>54167134
>Indians are MOSTLY bad
Not the ones that amd hires.
>>54167162
http://venturebeat.com/2016/01/15/amds-graphics-guru-describes-the-march-to-full-graphics-immersion-with-16k-screens/
![6e6332ddcdb3b3a40e9ce81b10968ef5[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/RkXuKrr.png "6e6332ddcdb3b3a40e9ce81b10968ef5[1].png")
Titry Tree!
3.50 !
>>54166940
And still rising. 33.5% up as of now. We might hit 40% today /g/uys!!!!
>>54167189
You should be careful to note that I did not attack either Anand or Raja, nor their work, nor their character.
I've always been a major AMD fanboy to boot.
>>54167162
>Wow, an Indian direct-descended man praising an Indian techie
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/19/amd-hires-raja-koduri-from-apple/
>tfw didn't buy 10000 shares at 1.6
Just end me.
>>54166841
ARISE CHIKUN
>>54167201
NVIDIA IS BANKRUPT
BTFO
T
F
O
>Sony, Nintendo and MS consoles depend on AMD
>Apple moving towards making their CPUs inhouse
>Chinks who want to steal technology
>Intel needs better GPU tech
There are tons of companies that might take over AMD. There is no way AMD is going down.
>>54167205
>>54167201
Is this due to the Chinese deal or does someone have internal info on the number of design wins on Polaris and Zen? Hard to believe it's the former.
>>54167228
>tfw did buy at $1.7
>tfw sold at $2-ish
>>54167246
PAX has kicked off, so whether or not the staff at the booths have said something and it's yet to reach tech sites is a mystery. No one knows what the fuck is happening, but it's amazing none the less.
>>54165894
>than
>twice in a row
Reeeeeeeee
>>54167246
just read their Q1 2016 report
Polaris should be fine, in fact, they might have an edge over Pascal. I'm hoping they release a 490 and then release a Fury replacement with Vega. On the CPU side, I just want them to at least match Haswell. I'd buy their 4core CPU with if it can do that, hell, I'd buy their 8core CPU. I'd love to have more cores for compiling, encoding, and having a little more juice for VMs. Making a server would be fine too. One thing does worry me though and that is their AM4 platform. Do we have any details on what they will support? The only thing I know is that they can do DDR4.
![c7c4c621e1a1659feca84b3e60ea3f72[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/hhEVjVJ.png "c7c4c621e1a1659feca84b3e60ea3f72[1].png")
#360noscope1337
$3.60 now.
>>54167280
Other than "we're expecting stuff in the last quarter" I don't see much to note, senpai.
woah, it's really ramping up
>>54167288
>On the CPU side, I just want them to at least match Haswell
See (>>54166625)
AMD shorts on suicide watch
>>54167268
Any liveblogs?
>>54167296
>>54167302
>tfw bringing shame to waifu
I had the money too, I just had to go for it. Fuck.
>>54167288
It will support M.2 if that's what you're worried about.
And probably they won't drop the number of PCIe lanes so expect a more of them than Intel Z boards.
I'm sitting here trying to learn about compound steam engines and you dipshits are getting your panties wet over trading bots responding to a Chinese company which just dumped 50 million into AMD stocks.
Literally nothing to see here, crash (back to normal growth trend) in 4 hours the stock.
>>54167288
Well shit.
>>54167298
more like "we earned more than projected, we made a big new cross-licensing joint-venture, we've made 3 major wins for semi-custom designs (probably for consoles) which should net us around $1.5b over the next 2-3 years, etc."
there's a lot for investors to grab on to
>>54167361
And that's all *without* including any bump from zen when it comes out later this year. It's a good time to be an AMD shareholder.
I heavily doubt AMD would go bankrupt anytime soon but it would be actually cool to see them do so just to fuck over the console wars and make pic related be the only way to game because Intel would gouge the shit out of OEM if they got a monopoly from lack of competition.
>>54167443
Consoles are fucked without AMD because they're the only ones making low cost APUs
>>54167201
some anon sinked all his money into AMD last year, when they fell to ~1.80 or so. He must be really happy right now.
>>54167482
Well.
They're the only ones making iGPUs that aren't complete shit without the help of insanely expensive edRAM slapped on the die.
This is AMD's highest stock since September 2014
>>54166374
do you seriously think things like this are not veted at a high enough level?
>>54167537
Learn how to not be an idiot
http://www.techpowerup.com/221905/tsmc-to-begin-7-nm-trial-production-in-2017
IT'S OVER INTEL IS FINISHED
>>54166581
>since it's rebrands muh low TDP pussy cards
no, that's pascal
>>54167500
Where's the anon whose wife invested a huge chunk of his savings on stock?
>>54167611
Probably at her funeral because that cunt needs to be dead.
And he should kill himself for giving her the ability to use his money.
>>54167605
tick tock tick tock tick tock tock
Intel's clock is running out
>>54167601
>>54167605
>>54167659
http://anandtech.com/show/10272/samsung-foundry-updates-7nm-euv-10lpp-and-14lpc
IT'S OVER EVERYONE IS FINISHED ALWAYS AT ALL TIMES FOREVER
>>54167101
in high end market, midrange is 60-40
>>54167333
and you wouldn't have to pay premium for ability to overclock
i so much hope market to go back to ~50-50
>>54167746
First of all, capitalize your eyes faggot we are civil people. Second, AMD sells locked and unlocked CPUs too
Get back, Su is on this getting Shit back in order
>>54167804
Why the fuck did I say "eyes" I mean I's
>>54166295
This desu senpai.
>>54167804
none of AMDs are locked wtf are you talking about?
>>54167993
If AMD had marketshare they would be!
>>54167989
they have the money and they love the if you are passionate about your software do your own hardware thing too, it would also be a way to get hipsters even more interested
>that glourious feel when I bought 10000 shares when they were under $2
time to sell all my shares and make mad cash
>>54168041
Keep em till at least shortly after the launch of Zen, and if you have that many shares you can make some mad fucking bank.
>>54168041
>selling on rising prices
>>54167993
Yes they are
>>54167993
anon AMD has been selling locked processors for years, what rock have you been living under?
>server apus
>server gpus
Don't they have like 1% of the server market right now ?
They are like the blackberry for the cpu world.
>>54168107
>>54168143
and for some reason the only examples of locked ones i cant find are Athlon XPs, which arent even being sold anymore. Hmmmmm
tfw I bought in too early and too late
amd literally CANT go bankrupt, because intel won't let them intel can't have a monopoly on the cpu industry and they know it, there has to be competition for progression
>>54168164
>none of AMDs are locked
>w-well I see athlons are locked
Make up your mind newfag
Many A-series are locked too
>>54168164
AMD E series, a good percentage of their APUs, and some of their CPU models are locked. Its just that because the unlocked chips are so cheap no one really bothers buying the locked ones.
>>54168171
Is fidelity a good platform to start investing with?
>>54168164
anon there are entire spreadsheets of AMD shit that either can be unlocked or can't be unlockedhttp://www.overclock.net/t/1005739/what-unlocks-the-unlockable-cpu-reference-list
>>54166687
Two things are boosting AMD right now.
Last night in after hours trading they got a huge boost because of new of a 250m+ deal with the chinks.
And this is continuing on today because the beat analyst expectations (loss of 14c per share instead of an expected 15c per share)
AMD is still losing money/revenue.
AMD has not made a profit in ~5 years now.
>>54168238
that's not true. They had 3 profitable quarters in 2014.
>>54168204
You are retarded, none of the CPUs that anyone would buy today are locked.
>>54168230
Thanks, but i was pretty sure we were talking about overclocking, not releasing disabled cores, interesting read though.
>>54168238
I've had an idea for an OC comic
Nvidia logos on a ship-"Oh shit guys we got a few holes in our hull, we need to go repair that"
AMD logos on a capsized ship, half already in the water-"haha nvidia blown the fuck out no recovery nvidiots on suicide watch"
>>54165894
>implying consoles will save a dying company
Look at sony.
Runaway sucess with the PS1 2 and 4
Look at intel even IoT and other meme things cant keep them afloat
Lets face it they've had their 20 years of fame now its time for mobile arm qualcomm and the like to take over.
We will always need desktops and servers just let the idorts have t heir mobile facebook machines
>>54168283
You are flip flopping all over the place, first nothing of AMD is locked, then only the athlons are locked, now its "nothing anyone would buy today". Lurk more before you post, you're age is showing.
>>54168230
other anon, but this link has nothing to do with locked CPUS. it's about enabling disabled cores.
>>54168283
>psh we were talking about overclocking not disabling essential features
It's ok when AMD does it huh
You're a fucking moron
>>54168336
Someone didn't read the spreadsheet completely, understandable though, I would TL;DR it too. There are whole megabytes of cache being locked away among other things
>>54168270
What's the best way to buy shares if you are a basement-dwelling autist that never leaves his apartment?
>>54168364
aren't you talking about multiplier?
>>54168305
Did i trigger your autism Anon, you really seem to be chimping out on us. obviously it all goes together, none of the chips most people would buy from AMD are locked, exactly what i said
>>54168346
What are you stupid? cores that may not even be working correctly in the first place(which is one of the reasons they'd be disabled) are essential?
>>54168411
its like winning the lottery man trying to pick individual stocks that are 'winners'
Buy index funds and/or DRIPs
>>54168422
>trigger
>autism
>chimping out
Seems like you are new here and are trying to prove you aren't new here by spewing as many buzzwords that you can.
>>54168474
you admit you are out of arguments then? good, i have to leave soon
>>54168427
I'd just buy them to show off my intelligence or never mention them in case of failure
>>54168496
No, It's that it is not worth my time to argue with a person who changes their core stance every time I dismantle it.
>>54168398
that's not refuting the point
>amd will literally survive as a leech
>>54167162
>>54166266
Fucking Americans
>>54166377
Yeah, I bet you're butthurt that Coca Cola isn't pumping "American water" for their products as well you fucking faggot. Do you also refuse to buy products that were produced elsewhere? You know, a lot of Intel and AMD products are produced in Europe and China.
IP isn't even a good thing, it's literally used anti-competitively in the modern world.
>>54166374
>AMD's links to ISIS and other shady govts
Kek, back to /pol/
>>54166475
The American botnet is no better.
>>54168496
Good you don't want to be late for middle school
>>54168575
Here you go.
Yes they had a few 'ok' quarters, but overall they are losing money and revenue.
>1.08 billion in losses
>154m in profits
yep looks like a financially stable company...
Unless Zen is some runaway hit in terms of performance they will remain in the doghouse.
>>54168427
Is there a trading company that's good for beginners? I only have around 5k to invest though.
>>54168775
robinhood
>>54168565
pretty much all of /biz/ only success stories there and everyone makes 4-10% on every trade.
>>54168775
You can ask /biz/
if you want to avoid paying fees there is Robinhood
Realistically though, even with fees you shouldn't be trading so often that it eats at your profits.
>>54166306
They manage to fit a 980 into a fucking laptop
If amd ia good they couldve done it
>>54168841
AMDs architecture sucks dick right now
it is too power hungry and outputs too much heat
Maybe that is what the watercooled laptop was about.. fitting in some Fury in there
>>54168841
You mean that highly gimped version of a 980? Yeah...
>>54168876
nearly every mobile gpu is gimped in some way, unless you want some 10 pound alienware laptop that dies in 90 minutes.
>>54168891
That's the fucking point you damn retard. So, in other words, they didn't put a 980 in a laptop. It's not even near as good as a full 980
>>54168841
AMD doesn't do mobile aside from Apple. That could change with Polaris however, less power hungry but higher performing GPUs are pretty nice for that.
>>54168906
So then the same fucking point can be made about every GPU ever.
>AMD didn't put an R9 in that laptop !
>it's not a real R9, its highly gimped!
>>54166306
Not saying that 3.5 was good or anything but it most definitely happened on purpose
That means they are competent in fucking you over (and realizing that they're able to do so without any kind of retaliation other than some internet cries while everyone keeps buying their products)
>>54168795
>Smartphone only
>>54168991
>not having a smartphone
>>54168978
The dumb thing is, when the 970 came out it as widely praised and it performed great against the competition.
Suddenly the 3.5 scandal came to light and it was suddenly shit.
Literally nothing changed.
I just want AMDGPU to become good so I can ditch Nvidia. GTX 760 is becoming a bit weak.
>>54168991
So when go with a traditional broker, it typically costs $5 per trade these days.
In the overall scheme of things $5 shouldn't matter that much unless you're dealing with some get rich quick penny stocks.
>>54169024
>lies to journalists about specs
>journalists only test games that don't use much VRAM
>months later
>lie gets found out
>only a handful of journalists actually run proper tests
>others are too scared to be blacklisted by Nvidia
>Nvidicucks still believe their card doesn't stutter in VRAM hungry games
>>54166613
I've got that combo currently, everything runs great at ultra and 1080p. You should probably wait though, this is first lithograph shrink in years and its right around the corner you impatient faggot.
>>54168814
I forgot we have a business board
>>54169024
>it was suddenly shit
Because Nvidia are shady pieces of shit. The 970 is still a good buy even if the 390 beats it in every way except power consumption. The nothing changed part is bullshit, people started testing the damn card and found spikes when using the memory. Titles are going to be using more than 4GB soon, and if people want VR then they'll be out of luck with the card since rendering two screens will definitely deplete it. I was an early adopter, I had small Kepler with the 670, since Tahiti was out of stock, and thought it was time for an upgrade. I'll be hesitant on buying Nvidia in the future, I'd rather give my money to AMD when they're going with an open sourced route.
>>54167526
Is that the reason why they're now in the self-driving car buisness?
Because only auto companies have the money to afford insanely expensive iGPU parts to make a car map its surroundings.
>>54168951
It is true, that's why there's letters to denote that they're the same chip, but gimped, like 980M or M290
>>54165894
I havent heard any news on Zen. What is causing the jump in stock price? The Ps4 neo rumors?
>>54169187
Those aren't iGPUs.
>>54168906
Actually they did.
They put a full 980 in a laptop.you can even sli them.
Not 980m, 980.
>>54169253
5kg machines with no battery life don't actually qualify as laptops.
>>54169273
yes they do
>>54165894
>amd stock rose
fuck, I should have bought some.
>>54168767
Nice way to move the goalposts
>>54166306
>I'm a retard that doesn't understand anything, i just go along with the dank memes that /g/ spews
>>54168163
they have something like 90% in client terminals for servers
they are cheap but still
>>54165894
I am personally more excited about the AM4 and new chipsets.
>It will allow for more scalability from office machines to enthusiast rigs.
>More socket longevity because of unification.
>Comfier part changes and upgrades from first PC with midrange APU to FX and dGPU later. It will also accomodate 28nm as well as 14nm, so you can really upgrade alot without changing whole platform. It may make more people stick with AMD as they progress in PC master race ladder.
>Better, and possibly cheaper mobo selection, including ever more popular high-end ITX builds.
I hope this brings some fresh air into the market and chip off the Intel nVidia goldmine that makes us pay through the ass.
>>54169207
>What is causing the jump in stock price?
Better than expected Q1 2016 earnings and huge buy-ins during after-hours
>>54168630
You a really are trying this hard aren't you?
>>54168041
I remember this anon.
Wish I had the guts to lend money to do this
>>54165894
>x will go bankrupt
When will this meme end?
>>54169677
That and overall PC sales are dropping like falling meteors.
Its a buyer's market in this sector.
>>54166227
They'll still survive even if Zen fails. They already got design wins on all 3 major next gen consoles. Meaning Polaris is already successful.
At most they'll just exit the x86 market or end up marginalized to 3% market share like Via was. But that doesn't mean that they can't get design wins. If they come up with a low-cost, low-power SoC with significant graphics oomph and average cpu performange, then they can just sell those for consoles and steamboxes and similar machines. And they can keep doing that pretty much until Intel makes a gpu that isn't shit (which they kept failing at for nearly 20 years now).
>>54168301
>>Runaway sucess with the PS1 2 and 4
>runaway success with 3 consoles out of 4
Okay
>>54169768
>When will this meme end?
When will this when will this meme end end?
>>54169791
People are dumping Intel stocks and have nowhere else to go but AMD. AMD is rock bottom compared to Intel and the only way it can go is up. That's why AMD stocks went up, but ARM, Qualcomm, and other stocks haven't seen the same jump. If there is a suddenly huge demand for the stock, it's natural for the stock prices of a poor-value stock to skyrocket.
>>54168867
>it is too power hungry and outputs too much heat
They us something like a lightbulbs worth of extra energy, and the heat is only a problem cause the reference coolers were shit.
Hell they are efficient enough that the same GPU is still competitive today, 4 years later, against the latest nvidia cards.
It's memeposting like this that results in what they are doing with Polaris right now - no extra performance, just the same card at 50-100W total system power usage.
>>54168867
>AMDs architecture sucks dick right now
>GCN
And still your cheapo 290x is significantly getting better with new driver release
>>54169799
>>54166227
Someone will buy the GPU half of the company most likely if they start to fail, if nothing else just for the IPs.
Hopefully a large company that isn't Apple buys the while company when they start to fail.
>>54168630
You realize you're on an American image board right fuccboi?
>>54169851
then why can't they put it in a fucking laptop?
Why can't they put it in a fucking car?
Don't give me this memeposting bullshit
if they can compete then show it
>>54170016
>Why can't they put it in a fucking car?
Because CUDA has been adapted towards a workload better suited for the software used in Self Driving cars.
When it comes to a car, it's hardly a matter of efficiency, more so a matter of software packages.
>then why can't they put it in a fucking laptop?
Because it would be pointless.
It's designed to be a desktop chip, to get it to a point where it can be used in a laptop, it's hardly the same chip.
>>54169696
Kill yourself.
>>54169993
Yeah, and I also realise that I despise most American posters because they're fucking retarded.
>>54170095
Then why AMD isn't capable of gimping down their flagship into a laptop
>more so a matter of software packages.
If they have great driver improvement this board has been claiming for the past few years
why can't they offer the same deal like Nvidia
in fact, is there any field (e.g. AI or mobile) AMD excelled other than lower price?
>>54170109
>visit American image board
>complain about Americans
>>54170146
>visit a website to discuss anime and manga
>complain about anime and manga
I bet you're one of those people too
>>54170140
>what has AMD ever done for us except offering better graphics performance for a lower price
>>54170216
and the lower price is traded by real hot temperature & power consumption
and these two flaws are not memes
otherwsie AMD would've their own tablet and TV's
and they wouldn't need to keep rebranding their laptop chips
>>54170271
>and the lower price is traded by real hot temperature & power consumption
Some people don't give a shit about that. You know, where I live, energy doesn't cost much and I welcome the extra heating.
>>54166374
>considering AMD's links to ISIS and other shady govts
Yes! Only Intel and their team of our greatest allies in Haifa can save the free worldTM from the communist microprocessor threat.
>>54170324
apparently most people cared enough to let Nvidia occupy 80% of the market share
>>54170348
Even when AMD had a much more efficient architecture it never beat Intel or Nvidia in total sales or marketshare.
>>54170271
>real hot temperature
only on reference coolers. every other cooler on the planet runs the chips under 75C.
>power consumption
the memeiest of memes. if you don't live in a shit third world country an extra 50-60W is not going to make a difference in your bill.
AMD doesn't give a shit about making their own tablets and TVs. Nvidia has never even turned close to a profit on their tablets, they're so poorly received that nobody wants them. No company is even interested in the chips in them.
>>54170348
Nah, I think that has way more to do with Novidya GoyimWorks and shit like that causing performance issues on AMD cards. People don't care about dirty business over performance.
>>54169836
ARM and Qualcomm arent strictly in the PC market, they're still buoyed by the strong mobile market.
Mostly PC manufacturers like Lenovo and Asus saw huge drops in price this week, also Intel and MS lost billions in value.
I dont know the particulars but I imagine there might be some value in these stocks now that they're cheap.
>>54170140
>Then why AMD isn't capable of gimping down their flagship into a laptop
Because by the time they cut it down, and get the TDP and power draw within acceptable margins for mobile use, it will be terrible.
>>54170372
>only on reference coolers.
cool, gimp it and put it in the laptop then
>if you don't live in a shit third world country an extra 50-60W is not going to make a difference in your bill.
but that is big enough for AMD to not develop their own version of tegra
>AMD doesn't give a shit about making their own tablets and TVs.
then what does AMD give a shit?
If I think of Nvidia I think of mobile, low power, constant driver update
what makes AMD special
>>54170485
>but that is big enough for AMD to not develop their own version of tegra
AMD hasn't entered the mobile space, that is true, and it likely has something to do with efficiency problems. However, for a desktop or so, that's not relevant. You see, 50W is not a lot. That's like leaving a lightbulb on, and it's only ever the case under particularly high load.
>tfw didn't listen to anons at 1.7
>>54169347
On a year over year basis, they don't make money.
if you make 20 million in 3 months and then lose 350 million in 10 months time, that puts you into the negative,
Maybe we should go into more detail and say that every other Wednesday before AMD has payroll to pay it has LOTS of cash on hand and is a healthy company. Come Friday they are broke.
You can come up with whatever way you want to spin this, like saying they make money on Monday and lose money Tuesday to Friday, but its ok you see, they made money on Monday so they are doing just fine.
![777f34dc89eb1f76909a97085ccf0b69[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/dzrNmGg.png "777f34dc89eb1f76909a97085ccf0b69[1].png")
THREE POINT SEVEN
AMD IS DOING IT!
GO BABY GO!
HIT $4 GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
>>54171106
When does trading close?
>>54171123
4PM by the looks
The comeback begins!
![a7f2d75a7720dd16629fc8b1991fda10[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/KSUuAhX.png "a7f2d75a7720dd16629fc8b1991fda10[1].png")
>Meanwhile at Intel
>>54171179
staph, I didn't buy shares :_:
(don't know where to buy them anyway)
>>54171210
Various places on the internet, but there's usually a minimum for a couple hundred dollars worth to get a decent deal.
Of course if you have a few thousand, you could probably call up a stock broker
>>54171256
Uh, I have 1000 Euros I could throw on the market right now. Still a poor student so an investment like that is.. eh.
>>54171304
Oh you are buying in WAY too late then..Wait for AMD to drop to 2.40, if they do any time soon that is.
>>54169975
Apple might buy it because it wouldn't be in Apple's best interest for Intel or Nvidia to have a complete monopoly on their CPU/GPUs.
>>54169818
Are you even trying anon
>>54171315
should have bought one month ago .. Ah maybe the stock will drop during the summer again.
>>54171315
to buy/save at the right time you need much more information than those press releases.
>>54171304
>€1000
€10000 or more
![5321dab2472464fb6e1f67128fdd0852[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/lRdNB2L.png "5321dab2472464fb6e1f67128fdd0852[1].png")
GO, GO, GO, GO!
Who knew about the China deal? I sure didn't.
>>54171495
Was something about it a week or so ago I think.
>>54167989
With pockets as deep as Apple's behind it, AMD could wreck some serious shit.
>Wanted to buy a shit ton of AMD stocks in 2015 but family called me a retard so I didnt
>>54171783
Yeah and then our pockets would suffer.
>Sold at 3.62
>Close at 3.99
![4aa766bd012a0af25bc41ec86195ee0f[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/FpgOHjc.png "4aa766bd012a0af25bc41ec86195ee0f[1].png")
So close!
>inb4 opens at 4.3
>>54172332
Monday is going to be an interesting day for AMD's stock
>>54171510
>>54171495
Wasn't it first announced in the Q1 report released yesterday after the stock closed. The after hour stock price immediately shot up to like $3
>>54172200
Don't worry you might have waited too long and sold at even less.
I do not know who is failing or not!. people are reporting Massive earnings from AMD stocks.
Samsung IBM and AMD are working on the next project expected to see Retail sales between 2019 and 2021
Intel has a horrible position taking sides with Nvidia and Nvidia found a horrible position with Intel.
Remember, it is not AMD asking for something, it is Intel showing weakness.
>>54167288
>On the CPU side, I just want them to at least match Haswell.
I think I remember seeing suggestions (on bits&chips iirc) that typical Zen 'IPC' is around the same as broadwell, a little behind skylake. Early samples are clocking about 3GHz which is faster than early bulldozer samples clocked at so there's high hopes for eventual clocks >4GHz.
The memory controller is licensed from a third party, I think it's only good for about DDR4-2400 so as usual AMD are behind Intel there.
The big news is consumer Zen will be 8-core with SMT (not 4-core, though obviously a 4-core variant will exist). This is the reason broadwell-e is going to include a 10-core chip because otherwise there would be a very real risk of AMD chips winning benchmarks outright in the consumer space, and not just against LGA115X i7s.
The big unknown is how many memory channels Zen, and Bristol Ridge for that matter, will have. The AM4 socket pin count is up by about a third to 1331, again according to B&C, so triple channel is definitely possible, but it seems more likely it'll be dual channel (not necessarily a major issue given how much bandwidth DDR4 has) and the extra pins over LGA115X will go into PCIe lanes. Honestly I'm not really sure, I don't know enough about such things to accurately speculate about what that pin count would or wouldn't enable.
>>54175335
>The big unknown is how many memory channels Zen, and Bristol Ridge for that matter, will have. The AM4 socket pin count is up by about a third to 1331, again according to B&C, so triple channel is definitely possible, but it seems more likely it'll be dual channel (not necessarily a major issue given how much bandwidth DDR4 has) and the extra pins over LGA115X will go into PCIe lanes. Honestly I'm not really sure, I don't know enough about such things to accurately speculate about what that pin count would or wouldn't enable.
it's dual channel. the extra pins are because AMD plans to make am4 compatible with both their new cpus and apus.
>tfw mummy said she'd give me money for Polaris and Zen
They will get bailed out by Intel and Nvidia, because those two don't want to get trust-busted.
>>54175500
Ahh right, that makes sense. i totally forgot about that.
Found the article with some credible speculation: http://www.bitsandchips.it/english/52-english-news/6815-speculations-about-zen-after-our-april-s-fool
>If 14nm LPP will be good, Zen base frequency (8 cores version, TDP 95W) will be 3.7-3.8 GHz. Turbo 4.1-4.2 GHz. If 14nm LPP will be very good (or if AMD will commercialize a limited edition, like the Athlon Slot A 1GHz during the good old times), Zen will have a base frequency of 4 GHz (Turbo 4.2-4.3 GHz).
>We can expect an IPC at Broadwell level.
>It seems that Intel will commercialize a 10 cores Broadwell-E due to its own internal Zen simulations (Intel has some data we don't know, yet, and has skilled engineers that know what they do).
>>54169070
>impatient
I still have a 560ti
>>54175651
You haven't really paid attention to the news today, have you?
How have you helped AMD recently?
me: my current graphics card is AMD
Fact: If AMD goes down intel will no longer be allowed to use x64. they are only allowed to do so because of their patent sharing deals
>>54175671
>It seems that Intel will commercialize a 10 cores Broadwell-E due to its own internal Zen simulations (Intel has some data we don't know, yet, and has skilled engineers that know what they do).
corporate spies at work
>>54175651
>this meme again
You realize monopolies which naturally arise aren't illegal, right? If AMD went under because they're too incompetent and shit-tier to stay afloat, Nvidia are Intel aren't just going to get instantly lynched by the government contrary to your juvenile fantasy. They'll merely attract more attention and scrutiny.
>>54175700
They have IA-64 and a lot of money and possibilities to revive it.
>>54175711
1997 called
>>54175711
>You realize monopolies which naturally arise aren't illegal,
tell me why bell was broken up
Did AMD sell their soul to the devil with that Chinese company deal? It sounds too good to be true, how could they just get $300m for nothing?
>>54175793
>$300m is a lot
>>54175810
For AMD it is. Last I heard they had something like $700m left in the reserves and their last quarterly loss was $100m so $300m is a lot of money to them.
>>54175810
That's not including revenue from every single produced and sold chip. So that's a lot.
As long as Zen is cheap and has around Sandy serial performance or better I'll be all over. I just want a cheap quad-core chip that's good for gaming.
>>54175828
Their quarterly loss is also a fair bit less, it turns out.
>>54175687
Though my CPU and GPU are AMD I bought them both used so it doesn't really count. I have been helping AMD customers on various 'tech support' subreddits though (not actually /r/techsupport).
>>54175913
As long as the multi-module Zen has more PCIe 3.0 lanes than X99, I'll buy it no matter how weak the individual cores are.
>>54167115
99.9999% of indians are garbage, but there are some exceptions which are genuinely fantastic at what they do. I know one person like that, but I also know 50 retarded indians I wouldn't give a mcjob to.
