Unless you've tried every switch type out there, you have no idea what's perfect or best edition.
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Buyers template for new blud:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG
Old thread:
>>54130923
Rate my new mech, /g/.
Think about it: unless you've tried a Razer keyboard, how could you possibly know they're shit? Always something more to try.
>>54151113
Razer makes the best!
>>54151124
Yep
Unless you've tried every switch type out there, you have no idea what's perfect or best.
There's always something more to discover, that's one of the things I like most about this hobby.
Any good entry level mech keyboard?
>>54151171
Magicforce and Zhuque are gud for the money
WHO'S HYPED???
>tfw I finally learned to type properly with my new keyboard and it only took me like 4 months
Where to buy individual switches for cheap?
I'm thinking about making one keyboard from scratch.
>>54151421
Which switches?
>>54151124
>how could you possibly know they're shit?
well i mean, you can just look at them
the urge to throw up should clue you in
>>54151124
Fortunately my local electronics store has Razer stuff on display to try out, so I know they're shit.
>>54151480
Oh really? I for one am happy with my razer products. You're just an edgy contrarian. What's next? I hate apple?
>>54151480
I think it only works for things like switches where you actually have to use em.
Gaymer design and trash quality specs are p easy to spot.
Topre Realforce.
Every mx mechanical keyboard has terrible ergonomics. And the noise holy eww
What do you guys do with all your excess keycaps?
>>54151454
Any mechanical, I'm fine with kailh or other knockoff ones. Since this is my first try I'll probably fuck up something, but you gotta start somewhere.
>>54151553
Excess? Sorry i don't fall for memes.
>>54151517
it's not contrarian
the gaymer aesthetic is just fucking disgusting
>>54151553
save them in plastic bags
>>54151586
Name one keyboard that has acceptable default keycaps other than the pok3r.
>>54151634
>sun
>linux
nice references dood!
>>54151645
My razer black widow and the KUL i gave to my mom.
>>54151645
>pok3r
>acceptable keycaps
Varmilos, leopolds, some Ducky PBT.
inb4 hipster rubberdomes and their paper thin pbt
What's the best Blue board out there? Need something for working at home.
Compact with 10key would be lovely.
Pls grace me with your infinite wisdom, /g/.
Topre is a meme continued by people who have to make themselves feel better about spending so much money on a rubber dome.
>>54151689
>compact
>with 10key
make up your mind
If you really want the numpad, get a separate one, that you can put either to the right of your mouse or to the left of your keyboard. Trust me, it's heaps better.
>>54151689
filco
>>54151689
Zhuque for budget, KUL ES87 GANSS GS87 for midrange, Filco Majestouch TKL and Model M SSK for high-end
>>54151694
this kekkkkk
>>54151746
>ssk for high end
nah, that's just over priced because autist and nostalgia fags.
Is ducky shine 5 worth buying?
>>54151878
Nope.
Ducky One costs half and the only difference is not having faggot lights.
>>54151702
Thanks, that's probably a slick idea for excel shit. Any numpad you recommend?
>>54151717
>>54151746
No budget. Filco looks nice, add to cart?
>>54151990
I would, really nice quality and design.
So i bought this bad boy recent for 40 dollars. Its alright, it works as a mechanical keyboard and all the keys are mechanical. It has some sort of off brand cherry blues. But so far i rate the keyboard a 7/10
>>54151962
Is it worth buying it on massdrop if price goes down?
>>54151634
Why would I want windows keys when its not used on a windows computer?
>>54151421
buy gaterons on amazon or ebay (or slightly cheaper on massdrop)
>>54152094
Because super key is not exclusive to windowns.
>>54151553
Into the closet next to my mags.
>>54152220
edgy!!!!
>>54152220
those keycaps are see through...
>>54151567
Could wait for a buy on MD for Gateron. Not too expensive and you get a bunch.
>>54151124
I have tried razer keyboards at my local electronics store and their switches feel ok, but I'm not a huge fan of them. I'd have to open it up to check out the build quality, but they don't have a very amazing reputation going for themselves in that aspect.
I can tell you though that they look ugly as shit and that the bottom row is non-standard, so there's two great reasons to not get a razer keyboard.
So I unfucked the SD card slot on my camera and now I can finally take pictures of my keyboards again. Yay!
>>54152339
Is that a magpie?
>>54152287
They are. To the naked eye they aren't so bright. The bounce flash is incredibly bright, pierces the blue layer, and bounces off the white layer, making them appear brighter. Under normal lighting they're slightly more subdued.
Here are the old red ones for comparison. They are not translucent and do not brighten under flash the same way.
I have a blackwidow ultimate 2013 before they made the big switch change, I love it; I got a k70 with brown switches for Christmas and that my main board now. Even with that said, I used the bw with my 2nd rig and it's great. I find its smaller than my k70 and it takes time to get back into it, but once I do I do t have an issue with it. I also have the ouroboros and it's fantastic. Because I'm one of those people I changed it out for a rival, I wanted to keep the colors matching. Again I use it with my 2nd rig and that too is fantastic
>>54152344
Honestly not quite sure, I'd have to ask.
Should i go with hana on massdrop?
Filco's keycaps are really shitty.
>>54151242
I actually have this for my htpc. Better quality than any other media/htpc-oriented keyboard available.
Note that that's REALLY not saying much, but still, worth the extra couple of dollars to have a practical mouse-based solution for htpcs.
>>54152103
>>54152298
Massdrop used to be crap for my country - shipping was too high. But I will check that out.
Is there any specific drop active now?
>>54152396
Aliexpress, maybe?
>>54152384
If you want ABS keycaps
>>54152431
GMK uses ABS and they're amazing. PBTs are just a meme.
>>54152339
Bro, how do you know what the buttons do?
A firend of mine recently bought a corsair k95 RGB and with the leds on it lags a lot. is this a common issue?
>>54152384
If you like the looks of it, sure. I almost got onto that myself.
>>54152396
No, but if you press the request button on the gateron drop massdrop will pay no particular attention to that and send you an email should they show up again. Which seems quite likely, they were already up two times in rapid succession and massdrop is always glad to make more money off things.
If you don't care a whole lot about the switch type you could give matias switches a try. They're really damn cheap, you'll just have limited options when it comes to keycaps.
>>54152451
I don't, I'm typing on a rubberdome right now, I only use that keyboard for taking pictures.
>>54152473
If you mean to say that you're considering buying a corsair, don't. They're shit in various aspects.
>>54152431
>>54152447
i've owned realforce for several years. Their keycaps (which is PBT, cmiiw) aren't that great. Maybe PBT is a meme indeed. They're too fuckin expensive aswell.
>>54152483
Hana's a bit too sissy for me, but still alright.kinda love the color combination and the fonts.
>>54152483
So do you just slam your face into it and hope it works?
Where can I buy a PBT spacebar for my Realforce?
>>54152483
>>54152419
Ok, I will check both, thanks guys
>>54152549
Yes.
Or, you know, just have the layout memorised through muscle memory that you got through years of using keyboards. It's seriously not that hard, only thing I'm sometimes one key off is the number row since I don't use that a whole lot.
>>54152451
Whar do you mean by this?
Blank keycaps? If that's what you're asking,
Do you ever touchtyping senpaitachi?
>>54152577
Deskthority, Geekhack or other places where keyboard enthusiasts hang around. Someone's bound to have some Topre PBT spacebars.
Pic related, pre-production samples that matt3o was selling on deskthority some time ago.
>>54152577
Check massdrop occasionally. They do have a drop of it not too long ago.
>>54152585
How'd you get over not needing a wristwrest? my first keyboard is without one, and i feel it gets slightly tiring after a while typing (not gaming)
>>54152654
>How'd you get over not needing a wristwrest?
I dunno, I use that folded towel as a wrist rest.
Really fucking comfy and you can adjust the height by folding it. Best wrist rest ever.
>>54151480
>>54151643
>the gaymer aesthetic is just fucking disgusting
Where exactly is the "gaymer" aesthetic on pic related and what about it is disgusting?
>>54152447
Yeah, amazing. On the first tree months until it wears at least.
>>54151007
they sell razer trash at walmart now.
Their switches are terrible and don't feel at all like blue switches.
>>54152717
The macro keys, the edges, that huge bezel on top (though I wouldn't call that gaymer aesthetic, but it's still disgusting) the font of the keycaps and that logo on the front of the keyboard bezel (more fucking bezel, why the hell).
>>54152717
Font, huge bezel, macro keys, snakes led logo, shitty thin keycaps, non-standard bottom row because "my accidental windows keypress", rubber case that will look disgusting with regular usage.
Looking for a really sturdy, rigid keyboard that'll last me a few years. Was looking at the CM Storm Rapid-I and the Ducky One TKL. Which one /g/entooman (or any other suggestions).
>>54152717
that disgusting font
those cheap backbit abs keycaps
that fuck huge case
look how fucking disgusting those keycaps look after some use
like they're permanently smeared in grease
![b1d409ece228da0d676609af28061db6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mAF6Z6o.jpg "b1d409ece228da0d676609af28061db6[1].jpg")
NEW SWITCH ALERT
Cherry has announced the "MX Speed" a silver stemmed linear switch with shortened 1.2mm actuation point and 45cN needed activation force.
Will be made in Clear and Black housings.
Corsair has 6 month exclusivity agreement.
>>54152585
I was being facetious :P
>>54152717
Snakes logo. Too much bezel. Shit keycaps quality, shit casing quality. Fucked up row. Font
>>54152808
Get a realforce/hhkb if you want longevity. If you want cherry, filco/kul/leopold
>>54152846
Yeah, cherry mx red with 1,2 travel distance.
>>54152506
Nope, i'm happy with my model M i only want to know if that issue can be relsoved, m8
![61xwM41gNrL._SL1000_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zLgM77D.jpg "61xwM41gNrL._SL1000_[1].jpg")
>>54152872
Filco Majestouch-2, Tenkeyless, NKR
PROCEED TO CHECKOUT? No ragrets?
Where can I get ricer keys?
>>54152717
Wow that's better looking than the shitty memes posted here. I commend razer for putting out beautiful industrial design.
>>54152915
yes do it
originative
pimpmykeyboard
massdrop
>>54152959
0/10
>>54152915
Quick notice; If you dont want to change keycaps, look for majestouch ninja. If you want to change keycaps later, go with anything. Remember that filco's keycaps quality is kind of shitty.
And..
Do eet
>>54152959
>>54152915
Oh sorry i didn't read that you wanted to rice your keyboard aswell. Go for it then.
Massdrop, aliexpress, ctrl alt, pimpmykeyboard, etc etc there's so many shops that sells keycaps right now.
>>54152865
It's fine anon, I love you too.
>>54152884
I see. You'll probably be better off googling that or checking the corsair forums, most people around here don't own any corsair products.
Also, what do you mean with lag? If you're talking about the backlight fucking up, then that's pretty common with corsair keyboards.
If you're talking about input lag, I wouldn't be terribly surprised either.
>>54153032
God dammit, why do keycap manufacturers even use the modern windows logo. They should just write "win" on it or use an older one. The modern one looks ugly as shit.
>>54153116
What's the difference on the ninja? Just better quality caps? It's only like $5 more
>>54152846
wewsies, cherry sure has been into churning out new switches for the gaymen crowd as of late, looks like they finally found out that there's a market for twelve year olds and the money of their parents.
>>54153247
>What's the difference on the ninja?
the caps are front printed instead of top printed.
>>54153276
They are crap keys I will want to replace either way?
>>54153299
Pretty much, yes. They're thin lasered ABS.
>>54153299
Regular one has a silver logo, ninja has a black logo. Both have the same shitty thin abs keycaps, only the printing position changes.
>>54153299
The problem with filco keycaps is that the legend gets dirty very quickly. If you're someone like me who doesn't like his keyboard look dirty, you'll want to go with ninja. I learned this hard way.
>>54153233
100% input lag
>with full light on, effect to maximum
>you type "test"
>it write "tpxePT" two seconds later
>sometimes start writing "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
it's 10/10 shit seriously...
>>54152220
Is it difficult to type with guns? How many word per minute?
>>54151124
2 years ago I found an original Blackwidow Ultimate with blue cherry for 20$ on Craigslist because one of the switch wasn't working.
After cleaning it up, changing a stabilizer, everything worked properly.
Yes, it's fucking glossy, the logo and leds scream of gaymur shit, but aesthetics aside, it's a pretty good keyword for what it is. It feels heavy and sturdy, sure there's better out there, but if you can get a bargain on it, I'd definitely go for it.
>>54153371
Heh, sounds like either something is shorting out or the controller is majorly fucked.
He should get a refund if still possible, and not buy a piece of shit the next time.
>>54153411
I think he will that keyboard it's like 250€ i mean they should try to made better things...
Also the corsair drivers fucks his mobo audio...
>>54153372
lol'd
guys, got a ozone strike last moth or so, but the spacebar is killing me, how can I know what kind/model of spacebar is it to get one replace? i made an image to show you what i hate of it, thought i think most keyboards have this shit
>>54153604
Just flip it.
>>54153604
Just flip it.
>>54152762
What about Razer Oranges?
I also don't like the Razer Greens, but I am a big fan of the Oranges.
>>54152778
>>54152806
>>54152818
>>54152872
>the bezel
I see where you are coming from, the bezel is a bit excessive. Sometimes I use the bottom bezel as a wrist wrest when typing anything long, but you are correct that the top bezel is unnecessary and the bottom itself is pretty large.
>macro keys
They serve a useful purpose, though I guess not everyone needs, wants, or even likes them at all.
However, Razer offers a version without the macro keys if they really are that bad to you.
>Snakes logo
You win there, it is pretty ugly. I am willing to overlook it because it is a good keyboard, but the logo is pretty bad.
>Keycaps
I personally like the feel of the keycaps, and I like how large they are and there is no wobble.
However, >>54152818 is right in that they tend to collect grease after some usage, but cleaning the keycaps isnt too hard at all and it rids all the grease.
I honestly don't think the font on the keycaps matters at all, unless you look at your keyboard when typing for whatever reason.
>huge case
True, the size could be reduced. My only real issue with the case is that the top plate hangs over the sides of the case a bit, which adds unnecessary size.
I imagine it would be a pain using this with a very small desk.
>>54153630
>>54153656
I can't do that, it press the n and b
>>54153802
What kind of contorted spacebar is that?
Post a picture.
>>54153958
my phone camera is shit, but i found an image of that on google
>>54153604
Stop being a manlet ffs. Get a razer, they don't have this problem.
>>54154048
You must be retarded or something, there should be no problem flipping that over.
>>54151634
what keyboard is this i want
>>54154080
It's a Razer Black widow tkl 2013 which i've debranded debezeled and painted over. I also changed the keycaps.
>>54154109
>>54151480
So you made to much drug money and don´t know how to spend it cause it is jut tooo much? I like your style, not the product.
What's the smallest keyboard that has the following
>MX blue switches
>media buttons - preferably dedicated or ones where I can lock the Fn button so I don't need to keep holding them to use it. This isn't that important though
>no backlights but if not avail I am willing to use white LED
>dedicated navigation arrows and pref delete key too
I have a cm storm quickfire tk but want something different. bit too tacticool for me and don't want the numpad block .
>>54154048
You might want to get a Razer Blackwidow X Tournament Edition Chroma
>>54153032
oh my those keycaps
>>54153802
flip the things that attach to the stabilizer wire aswell
>>54154202
I did that too, but i think there's something more to flip
>>54154109
that's not even tkl
>>54154289
oh my bad, it's an even bigger meme then TKL.
>>54154318
how is tkl a meme?
>>54154318
>space saving is a meme
>better mouse-keyboard alignment with arms and thus less strain is a meme
Should I buy a varmillo with mx greens?
>>54154374
>better mouse-keyboard alignment with arms and thus less strain is a meme
where did this misconception come from? I'm baffled. As a person who uses a full sized keyboard i've never been bothered by mouse placement. I'm in ESEA invite tf2 and most of my peers use full sized keyboards. I tried tenkeyless and they didn't improve ergonomics.
>>54154435
Do you want a varmillo with mx greens?
Why would I get clears over topre other than saving cash?
>>54151124
Tried one out at PAX, not bad but ugly as shit.
>>54154246
Just tested on mine, yeah, this happens.
Anyway, any 6.25u spacebar will work fine on this keyboard. 6.25 is the standard spacebar spacing, so, pretty much every keyset fit.
You can make it work on the default keycaps tho, you just need to not insert the stabs "legs" all the way down. Put something like double sided tape in the middle to prevent it from entering, and the spacebar will stop hitting other keys.
>>54154246
I made a webm to show it better when flipped.
>>54154579
I'm not sure what you're on about, clears and topre are vastly different.
>>54154551
How is this hard to understand? You either stretch your right hand to the left more while typing, or have to stretch to the right to reach the mouse if you have it on-center.
Unless you're left handed, 60% is better ergonomics. This is for typing and actual work, not gaymer garbage.
>>54154601
Ok, thanks, anon, I jusdt were uploading the webm.
>>54154608
This is why you should always buy razer instead.
>>54154164
quickfire rapid
>>54152610
thanks for hi red m8
>>54154612
Mechanical keyboards are for gaming! Reds Blues Blacks Greens were designed for gaming IMO. Where did you come up with these statistics? 60%? You aren't a professional buddy.
>>54154705
>Mechanical keyboards are for gaming!
>Reds Blues Blacks Greens were designed for gaming
>IMO
first that isnt an opinion
second the switches were here before gaming with a keyboard
>>54154705
0/10
You should tell Cherry that story, maybe they'll revise their history just for you
>>54154655
Sure thing, you're welcome.
>>54154608
holy shit keke
just ordered this
>>54155549
Hey nerd, still going good on the topre?
>>54155631
Yup, typing on it right now.
Though I also got another board that I rotate it with. I feel like building another TKL or 60% (or maybe a 40%) now, but I'm getting some keycaps for the memeforce in pic related first. Also going to put together some numpads/macro pads together sometime, one with alps and another one with gaterons since I still have the switches and plates for both laying around.
Just got a blackwidow chroma... it was free so not too bothered dont know what all the fuss about mech keyboards are so fucking loud and the colors are just distracting
>>54155717
>are so fucking loud
probably because you got one with clicky switches
>colors are just distracting
just turn the backlighting off then?
I'm fairly sure you don't need a keyboard anyway, you write like a retard.
I got this for $70
did i do good?
>>54155850
fixed
Oh my goooood my RC930 from MD arrived today. Holy shit this feels awesome, they're like really nice linears.
Apparently Topre is like this but even better? A lot of people said this would feel like really smooth browns, but save for the small resistance at the top it's smooth sailing all the way down.
>>54155850
>>54155866
>replacing PBT with shitty ABS
>>54155709
Nice goals,man. which gateron switches are you aiming for?
>>54153711
>I honestly don't think the font on the keycaps matters at all
It matters the same way the appearance of anything matters.
>>54151113
Enjoy your kailh switches
>>54155946
I've got gateron clears in the magicforce (excuse the blurry picture) which are really damn nice. I'm thinking of going with blacks for the numpad since I still have a 120 pack of those laying around and I'm not sure anymore if I want to use them for my split keyboard project.
The plate for the numpad will be from my old cherry mx board 3.0 (first mech) which is in ISO and I hence don't have much use for anything but the numpad part. Maybe I'll make a TKL for a friend to whom the reds belong with the rest of the plate (if he can get over his autism which somehow makes the barely noticeable variation in weighting in some of the gaterons a problem (he was somehow expecting cherry quality but smoother from cheaper chink knockoffs)).
Other than that, I just remembered that I'm planning to get a clueboard next. I want a keyboard with an entirely clear casing and I'm quite curious to try out matias QC switches. Should go well with the alps numpad.
>>54151113
>that reflection
nice day for photos
>razer
You are all mindless sheep. Razer makes fucking garbage.
>>54156189
Were you always this slow at picking up on irony?
>>54156158
Can you describe Gateron clears? Or is it just impossible to explain how light they are.
>>54156164
>>54155315
One meme wasn't enough? Now useless memes are a must?
>>54156164
it looks like you [spoiler] took out the garbage [/spoiler]
>>54156218
Sure.
They're really fucking light. Like, if you thought that reds are light you haven't felt nothing yet.
I'd say that it feels a lot like I'm typing on nothing but the keycaps. You just press down and it goes right down, extremely smooth and with just about no resistance (hence I but a red in the spacebar). Holding them down when gaymen feels pretty much the same, it feels almost like I'm just resting my fingers on the keycaps (I used to game on cherry clears). Contrary to my expectations, I'm not making more typos than usual, despite these being so light. I feel like the amount of typos depends more on the keycaps one has rather than the switches under them.
It's an extremely pleasant feeling (typing on them now), they aren't so crazy light that they actuate just by you resting your fingers on them (unless you maybe have extremely heavy fingers). Though I do sometimes have them pressed down in some games without even noticing that I was pressing them. Like I said, it really feels like I'm typing on almost nothing, it's a really fucking pleasant feeling, these are definitely some of my favourite switches. If you want something light that feels unlike anything you've typed on before, I can highly recommend them.
>>54156367
nice [spoiler]
you should probably figure out how to do that correctly on /g/
>>54156164
Now I am imagining some fat neckbeard going to the park, taking pictures of his keyboard.
>>54156630
lol
it's not a park
>>54156791
what
it's just my yard
>>54156830
BOYYYYY
he abouta shoot a school LMAFO. Get this kid a girl friend. Think he in call of duty lol. U frontin'?
>>54156830
just don't shoot up your middle school, all right big boy?
>>54156791
>>54156889
>>54156894
>>54156630
You can stop posting now..
>>54156925
nice prosecution complex, gaymo
play some linkin park and get over it
>>54156889
>>54156894
>>54156933
lol
don't you have something better to do than samefag on /g/
>>54151113
kek the reflection
>>54157024
child labor laws kinda ruin that fantasy, t b h
>>54157062
Dis nigga matches his piece with his keyboard like a hood rat matches his 9mm to his jordans. Boy stupid crazy. He gunna shoot Jerry at accounting lmao.
>>54151480
I think the joke went over your head.
>>54151517
>People who dislike expensive peripherals where most of the money goes to aesthetics rather than hardware quality are edgy contrarians!
>>54152717
>Shitty font
>poor quality ABS caps
>Knockoff cherry switches
>That bezel
>Backlighting, even if turned off.
>That shity looking plastic board
Seriously, you paid how much for that keyboard? And all of it went to looks? I guarantee you could've gotten a better board for the price you paid.
>>54151488
>>54152303
>>54153375
>>54154599
Once again, It was a joke based on something that was said at the end of the last thread and is at the top of this thread. You don't have to try a Razer keyboard to know that they're overpriced for what they are and, while they might not be the worst board in the world, they're certainly one of the worst boards you can buy for $110.
>>54152846
Interesting.
>>54156164
White HHKB best HHKB :^
>>54157137
>I think the joke went over your head.
it went over everyone's head
not a very good shitpost desu senpai
>>54157137
>>54157062
>>54156976
>>54156830
Who willing to bet they're white? Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold over here.
I got 20 tubmans on this.
>>54157137
>>54157181
NICK VS QB NICK VS QB EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE IT HAPPEN
>>54157239
>>54157207
Can we stop treating tripfags like they're special, please? You only enable them.
>>54157239
My money on nick, with a hairstyle like that you know he got nothing to lose.
>>54151242
it's not even mechanical s m h
>>54157282
you ain't seen my hair fampai
Finally got around to cleaning up my tinkerstation.
Time to repair a powersupply, or break it even more trying.
Tfw Planck will probably get here after July 4th.
>tfw no planck
How can I get into keyboard building?
>>54157567
buy a soldering iron and get to work
Shipping label for my Matias Clueboard was created. Pretty excited, except:
>UPS
Fuck off, seriously?
>>54157567
Depends, do you want to hand-wire or do you want to use a PCB?
The latter is significantly easier.
what do you guys do when you feel guilty about spending so much money on something so stupid?
Me? I just think about how much money guys who are into cars spend on that gay shit and then I feel better instantly
>>54157635
i just think about the cozy job I'll have come september, and then I can be just like qb
>>54157635
>Me? I just think about how much money guys who are into cars spend on that gay shit
>>54157611
The latter it is, then.
>>54157677
yeah? I think cars are gay, so?
>>54157635
Yeah same here, my friends are into cars and the stupid shit they spend money on is nothing compared to me.
>>54157635
I don't feel guilty about it, I really like this hobby and it has pretty much been my stepping stone into electronics. Not to mention that it's lots of fun.
>>54157684
If you want to use a PCB you'll either have to design your own (in which case I'd just recommend hand wiring) or take a PCB that already exists. You can find PCBs on mechanicalkeyboards.com, gonskeyboards also sells just about everything you need to build your own keyboard (quite overpriced though).
I'd start with thinking about WHAT you want to build. Chances are someone already made something similar. If it's your first time I'd recommend following in the steps of what someone else did since it's a great way to learn and if you can contact the person who made the original thing they're often glad to help you.
So, what is it that you want to build?
>>54157635
I don't worry about it.
>>54157759
What do you mean what do I want to build? As in, form factor? Probably either another TKL like the Ducky I have now, or a 60%. I'm not sure if that's what you mean.
As for the PCB, I would just buy one myself.
>>54157646
really bad with money?
>>54157635
Well that's a shit comparison. I mean sure the basic purpose of a car is to get you from point A to point B just like a keyboard is just a tool to allow you to input characters on a computer. The analogy stops there.
With cars you get ones for different purposes, some are trucks that haul things around, others are soccer mom mobiles, and others are luxury sport cars. Sure you can argue that customizing a shitbox is a money
pit but what you gain is performance and different capabilities. You can have a jeep that can rock crawl or a FRS that is better tuned for the track. With keyboards you reach the point of diminishing returns with a
single upgrade, everything else is purely cosmetic.
>Custom cable
Cosmetic.
>Pbt double shot keycaps
Mostly cosmetic (having shiny key caps does not make a keyboard less functional)
>RGB lighting
Ricer cosmetic
>Aluminum base/shell
Cosmetic that only affects feel slightly
>Different switches
Purely subjective
>60%
reduced functionality/aesthetically interesting but might give you a more ergonomic feel
>Ergodox
Sure it's more comfortable, i'll give you that.
The only real improvement is when you spend money on a gamer keyboard which you can assign macros but at the end of the day it's just a tool used for typing that might give you a more tactile feel, slightly better
typing speed, and response. All the crap people spend on in these thread is multiple sets of keycaps that are just purely cosmetic and retarded. At least cars can get your a GF and are much more fun than typing.
>>54158018
I know the benefit of having a car. I was more speaking on cosmetic upgrades to cars. Even I, have to spend money on cars so it can run most efficiently or so it wont shit itself on the highway.
>>54157181
Maybe you should learn to read :^
>>54157387
I have and it looks like you could take a hard pounding ;)
>>54157635
I've never felt bad about a purchase without the ability to admit it and find away around it. That being said, I've never made a "bad" decision that costs more than a few hundred bucks, which isn't a problem.
>>54157962
>What do you mean what do I want to build?
Yeah, pretty much the form factor/layout. If you want to build a TKL or a 60% things are simple enough since there's plenty of PCBs out there (Phantom PCB for example).
If you go with the PCB route all you need to worry about is getting a PCB, a case, a plate to put your switches, the switches and keycaps for them. You'll also have to find out how you can program your keyboard (phantom pcb uses a teensy 2.0 so you can use the TMK firmware with that).
Personally not what I'd consider the most exciting way to go about building a keyboard, but certainly a good start to it.
Also, don't expect this to be cheap. The combined cost will probably be more than an already completely assembled keyboard.
One of the reasons why I try to recycle keyboards as much as possible when building shit.
Actually, if you want to keep things cheap, I'd recommend doing just that. Get a cheap chink board or a vintage keyboard and mod it to your liking.
I have a Ripjaws gaymen keyboard with browns. It's a tank.
Biggest issue is the raised keys meaning dust gets lit up like a christmas tree, I am constantly having to clean it which pisses me off no end. Oh and the UK version has a bug in that one of the keys does not light up in single color mode. It also doesn't have the option to assign keyboard shortcuts to macro keys which is lame.
>>54158075
cute maid.
no love for the mighty K70?
I have one with browns and one with blues. love both but spilled beer on both...the choice is between which sticky keys I want to deal with.
browns are a my daily.
>>54158593
kill yourself my man
>>54158600
why? it works great with the greatest OS to ever be written. windows of course. do you even C# bro?
>>54158593
somehow the spilled beer and sticky keys seem right at home
just add some cheeto dust and boy, we have real MLG
>>54158678
lol I dont even eat in my room...got a side table for drinks now....all is well
>>54158675
>>54158811
dude that meemee is dank AF. can I save it? FB will love me
Tell me how bad I did, Complete newfag to /mkg/. Bought a switch tester, liked blues, bought this.
>>54158902
Oh man i like that keyboard. How do the WASD keys feel?
>>54158919
>>54158902
Corsair shills try harder, shit like this only works on reddit.
>>54158902
p gud
There are corsair shills and corsair haters but they really do make nice keyboards, if a tad overpriced.
My K65 just will not quit even after an anon told me last year it would fail in 3 months.
Things that annoy me intensely:
- special snowflake colored or disfigured key caps
- special snowflake Escape key
- any colors other than black or gray
- lit keys
- braided cords
- keyboards smaller than 75%
>>54158919
They feel pretty similar to the rest of the keys maybe a bit more rubbery. The angles on the WASD keys really do make a difference though. It feels really nice and despite the plastic doesn't feel cheap at all.
>>54158902
I just hope that this is bait. Otherwise cancel that order and get a keyboard with standard-bottomrow. You'll pretty sure regret it otherwise.
>>54159008
It doesnt make a difference to me at all how the bottom row is layed out.
>>54158155
Yeah I was aware of the price, I will have to keep that in mind.
So for all of the stuff I need to learn, is there like a keyboard site full of guides? I feel like I'm completely in the dark.
>>54159005
Sweet. I wonder if they are wear resistant. Thinking of coping one of these. probably one of the better looking keyboards out there. Does the space bar bother your thumb?
>>54159064
Its a bit weird yeah but no soreness or anything. The spacebar does have a weird angle though. I guess that can be a turn off. I will get used to It.
>>54158978
Things that annoy me intensely:
-people who think their opinions aren't ridiculous
-people who are annoyed by keyboard colors
-people who whine about others' preferences
-braided cords
-Logitech customer service
>>54159008
It is corsair shills they work like this.
>>54158902
>>54158919
Someone will mention a product and within a couple of minutes they will post a reply asking for details or saying how good it is. It gives them time to pitch their product.
>>54159087
Well if you don't like it the good thing is that you can change it. It's too bad the keyboard doesn't have a cool scroll volume wheel.
>>54158593
Always love the way corsair does exposed keys.
>>54158978
faggot
>>54159051
It doesn't to you, but it sure does to SP, GMK and Gateron. There is literally no reason to buy nonstandard bottomrow in this day and age.
>>54159130
or maybe there are several genuine corsair owners ITT and they are happy with their flashy, overpriced gaymen kbd.
they're available widely at retail so obviously they'll be more popular than fully custom boards and asian imports, and the quality has improved significantly since they started manufacturing peripherals.
>>54159211
This.
>>54159197
>SP, GMK and Gateron.
literally who
Who cares what switchmakers want, they just make the fucking buttons. That's like bitching because your car is Japanese but also left-hand-drive.
>>54159331
Oh boy. You deserve you corsair. Have fun man.
>>54159211
This Anon >>54159130 didn't get the memo that /g/ is now consumerism general, a /v/ brand. Really sorry for his behaviour, I'll give him a slap on the wrist for you.
>>54158978
SHIT IS FUCKIN LIT
>Germans in charge of shipping
What the fuck, DHL? How does it take more than a week to get something across the country?
My Topre numpad just shipped from assdrop as well, and it's estimated to be almost 2 weeks out.
how should I clean my keyboard? Do I need to disassemble they keys? got all oily and shit thanks to my popcorn craving
>>54159641
It should just be the keycaps that need cleaning (and maybe the bezel), so just take off the keycaps and clean them.
Greetings. I come before /mkg/ in search of some advice and shall format as requested in the pastebin. I am looking to pick up a mechanical keyboard. This will be my first ever. I recently bought a $140 refurbished PC to play CS:Source with my little brother. I won't bore you with the whole story but I'm trying to connect. It's been about 6-7 years since I've been "in the loop" and everything has changed. The PC has been running the game fine on minimum settings which is all I need. I bought a cheap keyboard and mouse to match but have been disappointed. I bought a decent mouse which is on its way and while the keyboard I have is functional I feel I should get ahead of the curve and replace it before it dies like my mouse. So....
> Budget
I would like to be spending around $40. I have done some looking and feel like I should be able to get something functional in that range. I may be wrong.
> Location
USA
> Preferred Switch Type
While unsure, I looked at the image ya'll supplied in the pastebin link and feel that I would probably most enjoy Black switches.
> Layout
ANSI
> Form Factor
80% would probably be perfect for me.
> Backlight
Would definitely be cool/handy but I'm on a budget so not necessary. Functionality, durability and overall quality are more priority.
> Previous/Current Keyboard
Currently a walmart purchased "Onn" brand $9 P.O.S. Kinda gave my background in the intro statement.
Thanks in advance ya'll and I really appreciate any help I can get!
How fucked am I /g/oys
>>54160057
Pretty fucked and your logo is peeling off.
>>54160076
That's a feature
>>54157759
designing a pcb yourself is so much easier and faster than handwiring.
>>54159901
Was searching more and had seen magicforce recommended earlier in the thread. Bought this cause it seemed to match what I wanted. Can always return if not happy. How did i do?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01ABUJ1NU/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?qid=1461291664&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=qisan+black+switch&dpPl=1&dpID=410E3LVQIvL&ref=plSrch
>>54160709
Nice job faggot
>>54160057
I've been using one of these for about 2 years and it's held up okay.
>>54160640
It's the same board, you just picked the version with Otemu blacks.
