F-22 RAPTOR
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How would you improve the F-22 Raptor?
>>54149860
we are not aerospace engineers
>>54149860
Take this shit back to /k/ where mods allow spam.
>>54149860
Make it transform into a giant robot.
>>54149860
F++
>>54149860
LED's
They improve everything.
>>54149915
nice ass
>>54149860
By giving it a cute paint job
raptor decals
>>54149915
Wow, nice aircraft.
>>54149957
>Idolmaster
>not Rabu Raibu
It's shit.
>2016
>Not having one of these in your garage
If the software crashes in one of these does it literally crash?
>>54150045
Are you asking if this piece of metal can glide on the air?
>>54149860
by never having produced it
>>54150045
Yes. The aerodynamics are such that they would crash without computer assistance. The jets are just too unstable and too fast for a human to control.
Hey guys, would it be hard to make this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8F27CC78X8
bluetooth
>>54150208
Stop pulling shit out of your ass, retard.
>>54149860
Make it open source and see what happens.
>>54150313
Aircraft with low static stability become very stable in supersonic flight, and the tail surface has to create a high down-force so that the sum of all lift stays where the CG is. Creating lift always incurs a drag penalty, and in supersonic flight it has to be payed twice: One for the excess lift on the wing (which is needed to compensate for the tail's down-force) and one for the down-force on the tail.
Using a flight control computer offers the possibility to allow the pilot to let go of the stick without the aircraft going off course. Now the stick does not command elevator deflection, but pitch rate, and the CG can be moved back from maybe 12% of MAC (mean aerodynamic chord) to -2%.
Can a human still fly such an aircraft? In glider competitions, the more daring pilots fly with relaxed static stability and have no problem to keep the aircraft under control. Even the Wright brothers could handle their unstable airplane, and handling improved when they moved the CG further back (If you want to know why, please post a new question. This answer is getting too long already!). However, the speed of an aircraft's pitch response is proportional to flight speed (and inverse to the pitch moment of inertia), so faster aircraft are harder to control. You can compare dynamic pressure with the stiffness of a spring: A stiffer spring moves the eigenfrequency of a spring-mass system up, and the same is true for the eigenvalues of the equations of motion of an aircraft. Given that the reaction time of a good pilot is at least 0.1 s (and more if he/she is tired), it is impossible to counteract motions with frequencies of more than a few Hertz. The lag means that the reaction comes too late and will support the motion.
>>54149860
More wings, more bombs, more naked ladies painted on top of it. And maybe a Raptor's pawn on the bottom.
>>54149860
>How would you improve the F-22 Raptor?
Upgrade it to the latest standards. F-22s haven't been upgraded in fucking forever, they can't even carry AIM-9Xs
Trash the fucking F-35 and give the proper amount of funding that the F-22 was supposed to receive and give it a chance to have a full production run. The F-22 program was going perfectly fine until Congress decided to axe it prematurely for no goddamn reason.
>>54150646
>Trash the fucking F-35
That's a retarded idea
>>54150514
I'm surprised they even let the pilot touch the stick at those speeds.
>>54150740
Because it is Too Big To Fail/Trash?
>>54150299
If you have to ask us, I'm 100% sure it's beyond your capabilities.
You should try something like pic related. Even that will take you shitload of time and will be challenging af.
install arch on it
>>54149874
>smug faggot pretending /g/ isn't a bunch of weeb spam, >tfw u fell for the 16GiB meme
Yup, /g/ is so spam free and not a shit board.
>protip: this board is amoung the worst on 4chan, everyone here suckls.
>>54149860
Lasers
>>54150646
>for no goddamn reason.
we can't export the f-22
>>54150852
So much money has been thrown at it already and most if not all of its development issues have been solved
>>54149860
A lookout tower and a bigger gun.
>>54150842
The pilot doesn't get to manipulate the control surfaces, when he twiddles the stick all that does it send a signal to the control computer which decided how it wants to apply that input to the control surfaces. That's the whole point of fly by wire.
>>54150874
Not installing Ubuntu + Unity with Amazon bloatware.
>>54150740
Well it was a retarded idea to trash the F-22 in favor of the F-35 in the first place, and the F-22 program was never even doing as badly as the F-35 farce has gone so far.
>>54149860
I wouldn't the PAK-FA is already perfect
>>54149864
I work for an aerospace company maintaining simulation software
>>54150514
>Even the Wright brothers could handle their unstable airplane, and handling improved when they moved the CG further back (If you want to know why, please post a new question. This answer is getting too long already!)
Yes, please.
>>54149860
>How would you improve the F-22 Raptor?
add IRST and side-looking radars like it was supposed to have.
but there's no point in improving it. the cold war is over, f-22 is pointless now.
they should scrap the planes and use saved money to make f-35 not suck.
>>54150920
unity oficially supports arch, sorry
>not making a f22 simulator inside an f22 itself for maximum information gathering
make it transformable.
>>54150045
>>54150514
>f the software crashes in one of these does it literally crash?
Not so easily. Fly-by-wire has very high redundancy.
If one of the flight-control computers crashes or gives weird signals, the others computers overrule the faulty one (or even two of them) and continue flying the aircraft safely. The faulty computers will get rebooted or shut down (if reboot is not possible).
In the space shuttle they have four digital computers running its primary flight-control software PLUS a fifth back-up computer running a separately developed (reduced-function) software flight-control system.
Doesnt the Tesla have more lines of code?
>>54149957
I would escort this to safety and shoot everything down that came near. Cute/10
>>54150934
The F-22 wasn't trashed in favor of anything, it was just trashed
Plus it's an air superiority fighter, not a multirole
>>54150855
>zefirek
>czuje zapach cebuli
>>54151147
F-22 is early 1990's plane. it's CPU is slower than intel 286.
>>54151200
>>54151147
>more code is better
No wonder our current systems are bloated.
>>54151227
>thinks F-22 from the 90' is the same F-22 as the modern one.
>>54151271
yes it is. avionics upgrades were intended but scrapped.
>>54151271
It basically is, it has barely been upgraded at all
>>54149860
First idea, recognize it is junk and start over. (or maybe relocate funds to other projects I think are better)
Some other things would be to use coordinated proper machining. The fact that parts were made by many manufactures, in many location with little coordination has lead to most parts being re-machined and surfaced at final assembly, defeating the gains of monolith part construction. This more then doubles the work and stresses parts lowering performance.
Reduce and add redundancies to computer and software. The fact that the time to main system crash is less then 2 hours is pitifully sad, and the mid-flight reboot takes so long that at cruise the plane nearly crashes before controls reactivate. There is a secondary system to stabilize flight to prevent crashing, but it doesn't handles sharp maneuvers well and do not sync with the navigation system. Which is why one test pilot ended up using his cell phone to figure out how for he drifted off course during reboot. (I am more surprised it worked given the type of phone he reportedly had)
Better paint job, not just to make it look cool, although I like to see it have some bight non-tactical colors just for fun even some LEDs which could actually be useful. But more to deal with the water issues with the paint they used. I know it has the best radar reduction value, but if it soaks water like a sponge leading to weight and friction gain, and icing issues, while loosing nearly all of its paint related stealth when wet or in high humidity then it is better to just have a lower stealth value and save a fortune on maintenance and while increasing reliability. Remember it is not always the most expensive weapon that wins the war.
>>54150900
The technology has been solved, but the core integration is still junk.
>>54150895
If someone bought it they could reverse engineer the amazing tech, then incorporate the tech into a more sensible structure making a world class war machine.
>>54149911
>>54149860
make it su-47
>>54149957
I wish my 360 didn't overheat and burn itself to death. Loved Ace Combat 6.
>>54151227
>>54151249
>>54151265
>i7 tri 980ti SLI
>watercooled custom loop
>4K Unigine at 60 FPS
>still gets destroyed by the Raptor in real world tests
>>54150885
>protip: this board is amoung the worst on 4chan, everyone here suckls.
agreed, still it's always fun to see the mac hating meme squad in action
>>54151362
>the core integration is still junk.
How ?
>>54151362
>the time to main system crash is less then 2 hours
uh, are you talking about f-22 or f-35?
>>54151362
>recognize it is junk
Yeah, but the design is pretty cool.
T50 >all
>>54151446
Well for starters they tweaked it too much, over too long a time with too many engineers.
At some point it is better to just charge ahead, less this happens.
I will try to use an analogy /g/ should get.
Let's say you are building a high end gaming computer. You plan it out. You know you want X GB of RAM and a Y GHz type CPU among other things like the latest Firewire port at the time.
So you start building, but do to funding and other things it takes you decades to build the thing. In the mean time new tech comes out, which you add to your design. Once you are done building you turn it on, and it works. But not nearly as well as you hoped.
The controller you used to convert the now outdated Firewire port to USB 3 adds a sizable amount of lag and doesn't really improve anything. The new CPU you replaced the old one with can't use all of it's features because of the older motherboard you had got years ago. The double slot graphic card you got, took the slot you had originally planned to use for the high speed internet card so your online games lag despite your insanely fast graphic rending. Which also now draws more power heating things up a lot and making the cooling pumps get loud which you find distracting during play. ...
So in the end if you had just built a decent gaming computer for a bit less with the best you had at the time you could have played the games you wanted to instead of waiting to finish building. Or just waited and invest in a nice new one years later you could play your new games, along with the old ones you had been saving, then you would of had a blast.
But no you had to have bleeding edged tech layered on outdated bleeding edge tech, resulting in a Frankenstein contraption that runs like a regular computer your mother would buy for work. Is it bad, not really as it does play most of your games, but you can't call it good either given all the issues it has.
>>54149860
>don't talk to me or my 10% smaller F-22 Raptor ever again
More cores
Install Gentoo
>>54149860
Radar absorption paint
F-35 Interactive helm
Retrofit and improve Engine/Fuselage bays
Revamp the logo
it looks like shit
>>54150970
L3?
