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This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
https://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ [Embed]
Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
Previous thread:
>>54112162
first for MADE IN GERMANY
>>54139783
What is a good kit that wont break the bank to buy that i could use to fix broken watches and sell for a profit?
>>54139783
Anon from the last thread, i think i found the watch i wanted.
For anyone that's interested it's a seiko MECHANICAL self-winding SARY023
Fourth for 36,000 bph
>>54140107
That is hideous.
>>54140107
I kind of feel like the smaller 24 hour dial sort of ruins the aesthetic of it all.
>>54140205
in your opinion
>>54139783
>>54137642
>modern day omega, tissot, tag heuer
>also panerai, bell&ross I would say even iwc
If you're just whining about watches built on ETA movements, be sure to add Cartier, Hublot, Audemars Piguet, etc
As long as we're engaging Muh Inhouse snobbery, let me just say that anything built off a lever escapement is pleb-tier.
>>54140220
Not that anon, but I think it's hideous too.
>>54140107
It's ugly as sin.
And I love Seiko, usually.
>>54140076
P-pls respond. I really wanna get into watch making/repairing.
PEASE STOP BUYING OVERPRICED GARBAGE WATCHES
RATHER SAVE YOUR MONEY AND SEE THE WORLD
Threadly reminder that the true cost of a cheap "reproduction" is measured in human misery.
>>54140367
>human misery
They're usually very well paid, for chinese standards.
They're specialized labour force, after all.
>>54140396
lol no.
Not even remotely true.
Repro shops are usually run by organized crime.
>>54140425
Source?
>>54140431
Google.
>>54140489
No sources, okay.
>>54140431
>counterfeit manufacturing
>run by honest respectable people
I wouldn't be surprised if they smuggle drugs in the cases.
>>54140503
Yes, run by respectable chinese people (if you can call them that), because patents and trademarks simply don't apply to chinese companies. Those things are totally legal according to chinese laws.
>>54140316
Actually this!
An awful lot of brands are just marketings money milking mashines. You pay way too mutch for some brands.
Save the money for something actually fun. Overpriced dogshit will have you justifying it to everyone, and feeling like ppl only want to annoy you.
Thus making you bitter and miserable.
>>54140526
Stoning women for being raped is legal in some counties too, that doesn't mean those sandniggers are respectable in any civilized way.
>>54140557
Stop moving the goalposts retard.
The point is, those counterfeit factrories are NOT run by organized crime, they're run by legitimate chinese companies that employ skilled workers that are payed like chinese skilled workers (well, for chinese standards, like dogshit, for western standards).
They're not starving children being abused by mafia in any means, like you're implying.
>>54139783
what's the general consensus on Revue Thommen?
>>54140585
Alright, so they're criminals and liars because of their culture.
Fine with me.
>>54140499
>>54140526
No really. Just google it. You'll find dozens of sources. It's common knowledge that the counterfeiting rings are controlled by triads and the like.
And no, it's not legal in China or Southeast Asia.
As with other criminal organizations, the ringleaders escape prosecution with bribes, extortion, having people take the fall for them, and so on.
You're just mad because your willful ignorance is under attack.
>>54140585
That's wrong, though...
Counterfeit factories ARE run by organized crime and DO exploit un-payed & under-payed laborers.
You can find this out very easily. You are trying to deny it because it makes you a bad person.
But hey guess what! Being willfully ignorant doesn't make you any less of a bad person.
>>54140686
SWISS INDUSTRY IS ORGANIZED CRIME
THEY ROB CUSTOMERS IN DAYLIGHT WITH CHINESE SLAVE LABOR PARTS
>>54140812
This is also true.
where my niggas at?
>>54140367
I didn't know cheap watches were made with sewing machines and cloth...huh
>>54141161
Worst case.
710 best case.
>>54141194
some hot opinions right there
wristlets usually don't like what they can't use
>>54141300
Don't worry m8, the 420 case is shit too, in my opinion.
>>54140076
One of you answer damnit
>>54141425
If you don't know, you should not be repairing watches.
>>54141311
I just dont get why the 110 always receive so much hate.
For me it have some feeling from like those flat divers from the 70's
>>54141534
Protip: those flat divers from the 70's were disgusting.
>>54141551
I like them
>>54141570
Lunes
>>54141570
Lunedi you mong
>>54141368
What watch is that?
>>54141613
A Sturmanskie. Don't know the exact ref though.
>>54141448
3-handers are Lego-tier to work on.
>>54141425
There's no simple answer.
Different watches require different tools for different repairs.
It's not really a great plan to buy broken watches, fix them, and flip them. If you have the knowledge and equipment to do this, you'll make better money servicing other people's watches.
>>54141167
Thats my you are meant to keep them away from water.
>>54141613
The watch that looses 15 minutes per day
>>54141567
Honestly thought you put your watches on your dog with that thumbnail
>>54141951
>It's 300€
>Works perfectly, I swear!
Hans, pls.
>>54141647
Its more of a hobby to make money off of, for me. I like watches and i want to learn more about them. What should i read to learn more? About watches in general. If you could also give a link to a pdf i would love you.
Found this Scubapro 500 Automatic on my flooded attic after being left unattended for two decades or so.
The crown has fallen off (I believe broke at one of its thread), there are rust spots all over it, the lugs are stuck and one of the pins has broken inside the watch.
And most importantly, even though it's missing the crown, if I wind it through movement, the seconds hand it will start moving though it doesn't seem to store power. If I wind it for a minute it will completely stop in two or three minutes.
Also couldn't open the back with the duct tape ball trick. Humidity and rust has sealed it shut.
Is it worth having it fixed and regulated? If so, should I expect it to be expensive? I'm kind of broke right now.
>>54140367
This is a sweatshop? just looks like any manufacturing plant. is it because they are asian?
>>54142046
The best thing to do would be to take a watch repair class. They'll be able to direct your learning in an informed manner.
Failing that, start by learning about escapements.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escapement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lever_escapement
http://www.nawcc-index.net/Articles/Headrick-EscMechanics.pdf
From there, move on to watchmaker channels on Youtube and keep an eye on watchprosite to read about interesting escapements & complications. Again consider receiving professional instruction.
If you really want to get into fixing things, there is a fairly well developed hobby industry revolving around the repair of old pocket watches. It is my general understanding that this is more affordable and often more interesting than tinkering with wristwatches.
>>54142148
Yes, it will be expensive.
>>54142329
Could you elaborate?
>>54142428
Not him, but the movement is probably water damaged to hell. Doubt it'd be cheap to repair.
>>54139835
Me too man, me too.
>>54142428
Pick a number that you think would be totally impossible for the repair price. Add fifteen percent, and you have the quote. Add ten percent on top of that and you have the final repair bill.
>>54142287
Ok. Thanks for the help!
What are some very thin automatic watches that dont cost the same as a house?
>>54142608
For obvious reasons, there aren't any.
Get a hand-winder.
>>54142576
Ah, the old 4chan art of using a bunch of words to say nothing. If you have no idea what you're talking about you're not forced to speak up.
>>54142435
Isn't the fact that it works upon hand movement an indicator that the movement is at least decently preserved?
Any way to open the back myself without the proper tool and without ruining the back?
>>54142695
The movement briefly working isn't necessarily an indication that it's in good order. Take it to a good watchmaker, see what they say.
Looking for a sub-$120 watch that looks better than my Casio F91W but will look alright on bitch wrists.
>>54142608
Get a vintage micro rotor movment.
>>54142951
Timex weekender
>>54139835
What is it?
>>54142608
Google it
>>54142951
Literally throw a dart at the Seiko 5 catalogue and pick one.
>>54143662
a sinn automatic one would presume
>>54142989
ive been trying to get a vintage ham for ages now, its impossible to find anything but frankens
ive even been checking out estate sales, like another anon recommend, with no luck
Is it okay to ask for recommendations regarding smartwatches in here, or should I go kill myself for even thinking about it?
Just checking.
>>54144079
not the thread for it. youll just get told to buy a real watch
which i happen to agree with, but just a heads up
>>54144138
Alright, thanks.
>>54141951
I haven't even regulated it.
>>54144079
>>54144138
>>54144153
how to avoid shitposting and thread derailment 101, wudda guy. take notes faggots
Ok, update on the Scubapro 500 from here >>54142148.
Managed to open the caseback by using a superglued nut + WD40 + a wrench.
The movement doesn't seem all that bad or am I wrong? Some tarnishing on the rotor but most of it seems conserved. Maybe I lucked out it was a diver/scuba watch?
The (hopefully) most exciting part: the rotor was stuck. By manually moving past its stuck point a few times it began to work and started to store power. The rotor is moving much more freely now but it's still sticking at a certain point.
I didn't want to push it very far but I turned the rotor by hand for about a minute. So far it's been 30 minutes and the watch has been running absolutely fine.
This is reason to be hopeful, right? If it's just the rotor sticking and the broken crown, am I wrong to assume the movement itself is mostly fine?
Those damn Swiss, I'm seriously impressed this thing survived.
>>54144295
You're probably okay. It was only exposed through the crown tube, and probably not completely submerged if at all. An ultrasonic bath at a watchmaker would likely take off any gunk and get it running great again. As a cool alternative to the usual vintage Seikos, I'd do it. I wouldn't run it much until then.
>>54144377
Thanks. It's been 40 minutes and it's still running but I'll move it carefully not to charge it further.
Really psyched, just found out these (especially the silver bezel one which I what I have) often go for $1,000~2,000.
Quite a step up from my shitty Rodina.
Fucking mail is slow.
>>54144430
>not 3d printing your watches
what year is it?
>>54144412
I'm looking on Ebay and they seem to be worth more around $800. A service should only cost a fraction of that just for the movement though.
>>54144483
Eh, your figure may be right, but all sold listings on eBay I saw were around $1k for the black bezel or the quartz one.
Still, even if they go for $800, still a pretty damn great score.
![IMG_0607[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Es32Zyi.jpg "IMG_0607[1].jpg")
>>54144588
Nice bracelets, faggot. Love the red glow in your room from your mouse and rig. Totally not gay.
1970 Omega Geneve cal. 601
>>54144295
Not too terrible, but it really needs service.
It's definitely not "mostly fine". There is discoloration in places and even a little bit of rust. It needs professional cleaning and lubrication. In the meantime you should avoid letting it run.
It's a really nice watch though. Well worth it.
>>54144619
Yeah, definitely. I meant mostly fine in a general sense, as in the movement isn't ruined as people initially assumed here.
I'll definitely get it cleaned, lubbed and serviced. It still needs a new crown after all.
I'll also see if it's possible to clean the dial a bit and maybe relume the hands.
>>54144588
>much red glow
>braclets
>wrist facing watch
>minifigure of the worst girl
can you be any more of a gigantic faggot?
>>54144614
The red glow isn't come from my rig, it from the lamp. I'll never put any led on my computer just let you know.
>>54144719
I'm not actually wearing my watch like that tho
>>54144617
Is that supposed to have gold hands with a stainless case? It looks pretty odd to me.
>>54144784
>I'm not actually wearing my watch like that tho
We have photographic evidence that you are, in fact, wearing your watch like that. Faggy bracelets and all.
>>54144812
Yeah, the hour indicators and Ω are also gold. The ref is 131.019.
Here's another one for sale: chrono24.com/en/omega/antike-vintage-geneve-herrenuhr-edelstahlgehaeuse-neuwertig--id3263099.htm
>>54144821
Ninefag has returned to shower us with his unforgiving wisdom of old. You seem like the guy that IRL is afraid to make a sound when peeing in a public toilet, but doesnt have a problem with sticking his boogers on the walls, amirite?
What's the general consensus on Armani or similar branded watches here? Someone wants that as a gift but I'm not too sure.
Anyone heard of this brand? I suspect it being shitty but I am not sure.
>>54146271
Overpriced quartz fashion watches. Personally, I think they have some of the better looking part of that sector but they're still just branded Chinese junk. But if it's a gift and they won't know or care about getting a quality watch then you could just get one if that's what they really want.
>>54146271
Mall-core overpriced pieces of shit
Got this as a present, is Skagen a well established brand?
>>54147024
Unfortunately.
>>54147133
New to the community can you replace the strap on a watch?
>>54147196
On most watches, yes. On this one, not sure. Can you show a picture of the back?
>>54147230
Anyone got the name of one of those gain/loss indicators for the AppStore on iOS? Been looking for some time now but can't seem to find one.
>tfw have almost 3000€ to blow on a watch but don't know what to get
My most 'expensive' whatch is a seiko 7002, so I would like it to be somewhat 'special' not some generic moutain jew scam like tag heuer.
Also what are some brands with the best resale value for that budget? I don't plan to sell it but I would like it to keep it's value through time.
>>54147860
Rolex tend to hold value pretty well. The name goes a long way to selling them.
If you're looking at dropping €3k, you're going to be looking at Rolex, Grand Seiko, Omega.
Omega's have a little bit of markup, and aren't necceseraly worth what they ask, but very good pieces none the less.
Grand Seiko, similar boat, marked up a bit, still very good.
Rolex..Well, they're Rolex. Fantastic time pieces, with the equivalent of the "Apple Tax" meaning half of the time you're going to pay for a name, but the other half, you're getting a quality item. Personally I think most rolexes look pig disgusting, with the only ones I find "good looking" are Explorers and Oysters.
>>54147392
No. Unless the brand offers some kind of proprietary strap.
>>54147898
Being Swiss, your estimated 50% markup compared to 'actual worth' is really good though.
Omega for example is more like 1500%
>>54147860
Speedmaster?
My new G-Shock
>>54147898
I have thought rolex but I just feel It's not for me, I'm a carpenter. I people would think it's fake, or think I just get it to flash it around.
>>54148001
I like them, but the swatch group makes it souless for me.
>>54148081
>I people would think it's fake, or think I just get it to flash it around
If you're in a line of work like that, wearing a higher end want will only make people think it's fake.
Get a Rolex diver or something along those lines, something sturdy to look at.
My cat
>>54148081
If you want something durable, Sinn's high-end models are in your price range. They hold value pretty well, nowhere close to a Rolex though.
>>54147860
do you have a specific style you're looking for? from what I gather this will be a watch for everyday wear? I suggest looking at the Tudor BBs or maybe even consider an IWC. Most people here don't like IWC but I think the pilot is quite stunning. Comes in black, white or blue.
>>54148339
the U1 is a beast of a watch, made of submarine steel which in some aspects are better than Rolex's 904L steel
too bad I have bitchwrists and will never pull it off
>>54147984
Okay thx
>>54142608
JLC Master Ultra Thin
>>54147024
Skagen is a pretty shitty brand, their build quality is bad and I don't know if it's the picture or it's really like that, but the "paintjob" on the dial looks terribly low in quality. Although I do have to admit, I like how some of them look and even had one, before it shit the bed
>>54142608
Why only automatic? Non-automatic mechanicals are always thinner than automatics, and it's not really that hard to wind it every day or two if you really care about it being thin
>>54148030
mfw I got the exact same watch on the watchuseek forum for $140. Should be here within the hour.
>>54148879
Too bad those hands look fucking retarded...
Otherwise, it looks pretty good.
>>54148879
The hands are such a flaw in the design..
If they went with something less..Retarded..Then the watch would sell in infinitely higher volume.
To look at the watch as a whole, it is very nice, but those hands man..
>>54149421
Are you me, two minutes in the past?
>>54149480
5 minutes.
Maybe.
I've been pretty traditional watch nigga my whole life, but I started experimenting recently.
>>54148879
>submarine steel
Can we stop for a second and talk about how utterly ridiculous this is?
It's literally just "muh katana steel folded over one trillion times" all over again.
Congratulations. Your perfectly normal steel case has an extra buzzword on it somewhere and MAY have gone through some kind of extra heat treatment.
>Seiko 5 hasn't arrived yet
>Already lusting an Amphibia and more expensive watches
I fucking knew it.
>>54145511
Wat.
Is that some sort of reference or just crazy ass projection?
>>54149390
mfw it isn't here yet
>>54149675
Germans seem to like exotic/military steel. Here they make hammers out of commie vehicle armor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sDjBsKota8
>Your perfectly normal steel case has an extra buzzword on it somewhere and MAY have gone through some kind of extra heat treatment.
I don't think it's only that. I think what Sinn did is used the same steel alloy German submarines are built of. It's supposedly antimagnetic and more resistant to saltwater, which explains why they dared to give them a blasted finish which would normally be more prone to rust spots.
Anyone want to buy this?
Excuse my robin Williams cosplay
>>54150455
unexcused
>Sinn
I'm the only one who have the impression there is only one anon shilling this watches in every /wg/?
>>54150455
This isn't the inside of a casket
Awww shit
>tfw will never have a rolex no date sub and omega c321 speedmaster
>>54150439
I'll give yuh bout tree fiddy nao!
>>54150712
>>54149401
>>54149421
How can you possibly not like those hands?
>>54150820
Cuz they look like bloody tampons.
>>54147024
Skagen = Fossil
>>54150439
$350?
>>54150811
>>54150897
>>54150897
>>54150921
Why the extra protective case?
>>54150921
>>54150944
The seller included it.
I suppose it's so I'll be able to swap out the current one if it gets banged up over time.
>>54150886
Its on UK eBay for £200
>>54150406
Those hands on the model pictured here (>>54148879) would be amazing.
>>54149695
Good luck, it's not stopping anytime soon
>>54150668
There are at least a couple, and one for Damasko too. But I'm sure they just really like the brand. And most people in the thread seem to at least respect it.
>>54151247
I can only think of one reason to sell a vintage omega to so cheap..
So..Just how many hours a minute does it gain?
>>54151338
Stainless steel Semenmasters really aren't that expensive and they're very common. That still sounds pretty cheap but it's not necessarily that outrageous.
>>54150439
You got a better picture of it?
>>54151247
>£200
link?
>Nato looks to sportsy
>Leather looks to dressy
Is there a mid term?
>>54151526
Bracelet
Leather nato
>>54151338
>>54151414
It starts at £200
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1959-omega-seamaster-Calendar-Stainless-Steel-Case-Black-Dial-Rare-/121959767803?nav=SEARCH
>>54151540
Is bracelet usually considered less dressy than leather? Because it feels the opposite to me.
>>54151526
>>54151540
Leather nato is where it's at
>>54151566
Depends what kind of leather strap, but yeah leather can be pretty dressy.
>>54151552
>http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1959-omega-seamaster-Calendar-Stainless-Steel-Case-Black-Dial-Rare-/121959767803?nav=SEARCH
Made a bid :)
>>54151566
A bracelet is very sporty. Pretty much always more sporty than leather, unless you're getting some sort of orange leather or something.
Citizen ecodrive atomic time
>>54150921
>>54150986
>not square g-shock
ya dun guffed
>>54151635
Nice one, hope you win (not at £200)
>>54148250
ayy
>>54151848
Maybe...
As of now, though, I'm happy with it.
>>54151848
>having this outdated opinions on g-shock in 2000+16 A.D.
Get the fuck out.
>>54151953
>timex
>amphibia
>cats
Once again goes to show that people owning either of these two brands should not post in /wt/
>>54151997
No need to be so upset because people are shitposting on your Gshock.
Does anyone have a suggestion for a nice looking digital watch that isn't fuckhueg?
I'd like something to wear while doing sports or riding my bike. I looked at the Suunto watches at first, but I saw one on a girl at work and it was incredibly big, so I won't even consider it anymore.
I've got a regular Casio right now, but it's a bit too subtle imo.
>>54152041
fw91
>>54152031
Dont own a g shock at all, famiglia :^)
What is that, your grandads watch? Give it back to him, he needs to know when to take his medication
>>54152041
DW5600
>>54152081
Only shitposting so far, yet not watch posting.
>even when buying cheap russian watches it turns out you have to worry about fakes
What the fuck is wrong with this world?
>>54152120
Xoxols mostly.
And usually they are just franken watches, not exactly fakes.
>>54152105
Well you did try watchposting but ended up shitposting, seeing that your watch is shit - so its even
>>54152156
So far you've shown that you ain't go shit to post, except to shitpost.
Here's your (You).
>>54152170
I'd tell you to tell me the time as well, but ww both know you'd be off by at least a minute.
>>54152041
DW-M5610
Can someone give me some good digital watches? I'm trying to make a guide of sorts and I'd like opinions and more watches.
>>54152272
Terrorist watch or bust
>>54152272
Make a digital watches thread and see what people post. I can start with my favs, the OutGear line from Casio (imagine budget ProTrek), sgw 100 and sgw 500. Then the ProTrek line, then some older g shock models, some cheaper Suuntos and Garmin, definitely something budget related from Timex and so on. Godspeed Anon :)
>>54152307
Yeah, I've got the Casio lineup, but I'm looking for alternatives.
>>54152272
Z E I T W E R K
>>54152272
ALS Zeitwerk
>>54152272
Don't bother. The best looking digital watches are not being made anymore. All you are left with is practical and "meh" designs.
Hey bros anyone know where I can pick up some vintage seikos in Europe? Delivery fees are so high to order from the US.
>>54152343
>>54152345
I'm not adding that. If you're the sort of person that could consider a Zeitwerk, you probably know more about watches than I do.
Twinks, we love you and all, but please dont get watches bigger than your arm. It just looks sad
>>54150811
Was the dog in the picture implied as dog shit?
>>54152706
Good luck when most new watches are 42mm and up.
Why won't companies rerelease iconic vintage models with no design changes?
>>54152752
>most new watches are 42mm and up
They're actually not. But sounds like an excuse someone would make to buy a watch too big for them
>>54152371
My fucking dick.
I just want stylish digital watches instead of something you would be proud of wearing in elementary school like the gshock.
>>54152706
:3c
>>54152905
>implying Lip isn't elementary school tier
>>54152878
They sometimes do.
>>54152905
>I just want stylish digital watches
I guess style is a matter of taste in this case. Personally I like wacky digital watches with retrofuturistic designs.
>>54144617
domed crystal master race
What watch brand has a logo that looks like Jaeger-LeCoultre's? I saw a watch with a logo like that but it couldn't have been a JLC.
>>54153030
Maurice Lacroix? Nor really similar logo, but the layout of logo and brand name.
Seiko should make a wrist watch with this design.
Cheap fuck coming.
>>54153398
Nah, Seiko 5 is amazing value for the price. I think everyone in the watch community respects them.
Just needs a new crystal and perhaps I will switch over to a green perlon strap.
>>54153477
kill yourself
>>54152375
There's a German guy on eBay that sells vintage Seikos. I bought my penis quartz from him.
>>54153398
Watch on hand/10
>>54153588
Got a name or a link?
>>54153398
Did it come with the bracelet?
>>54153767
Here we go:
SNZG13K1
>>54153838
The fuck?
That's the SNK809 with a bracelet you nigger.
>>54153030
Maybe Jacques Lemans.
Shitty watches.
>>54152716
This guy gets it
>>54152878
Have you missed the seiko turtle? Other than the different second hand that shit is identical.
>>54152906
You're wrist are 10x bigger than mine. Pls kill me
>>54154339
That's the 38mm one.
You're either delusional or you must have the same wrist circumference as a 5 year old child.
>>54154434
Excuse me for the horrible typos. I was obviously exaggerating. Maybe it's just the photo but your wrists look way bigger than mine.
>>54154477
Not the same anon, but measure your wrist and post it while you're here here.
For shits and giggles.
>>54154477
thats not me you're responding too
but yes thats a 38.5mm
unless your wrists are 5.5in or under they're not significantly smaller than mine
>>54154527
I'm stuck on a train for five more hours. I will try to remember later.
>>54147860
Resale value isn't great, but that means a used one is a bit more affordable.
>>54154548
I'll be waiting.
>>54139835
Free service for ignorant Amerifats: Sinn means 'sense'.
>>54150921
>>54150897
At least it wasn't another Seiko.
I'm please. Enjoy your new watch, anon.
Mods are asleep, post lume.
>>54154745
Lume my ass, a fucking lamp
>>54153912
Didn't notice the different hands.
Calm down m80.
Today is vintage thursday for me, and I'm extremely happy about taking this reliable work-horse from the vault.
>Omega 1969's Connie
>In virtually LNIB condition
>Completely original, never restored
>Still running in chronometer range
>tfw I want to buy an Amphibia but I am a libertarian and would probably look retarded
>>54154949
>I am a libertarian
what that have to do with anything?
>>54154980
Some Libertarians get triggered by commie gear. If I wore a Vostok with a don't tread on me shirt I might get lynched.
>>54155009
there are many pretty neutral models, that have 0 remembrance to soviet russia.
>>54155009
>commie gear
Then don't buy one of the models with the Red star Dirskie dials.
>>54154949
dude, I'm libertarian too and ironically own a ton of commie shit was well. Nothing wrong with that.
Anyone know what exact model Omega this is?
>people calling a watch that is under 10k and readily available their grail
>>54155248
is my grail ok anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auvaAFK3vi0
anyone got one of them guide pictures? :3
>>54155348
>>54155361
thank yaw
Orient Ray II, y or n?
>>54155679
As much as i like the slightly quirky 2 o'clock pusher, hacking and handwinding are a bigger plus.
>>54154917
10/10
I'm so jelly of your collection lawyersan
>>54154917
This is how a vintage watch should look. I have no idea how most vintage watches get so beat to shit that even the hands get fucked
>>54154917
>1969
>almost 50 yo
B-but this watch looks... new??
>>54154825
>you will never have a watch with a complication that ignites an actual flame to illuminate the dial.
why even live?
>>54155708
>>54155778
>>54155846
Thanks m8s.
>>54155851
I always liked MB&F as a company and some of their watches, but imho that thing is ugly as fuck. It looks like a tumored watch.
