Fuck your copypasta edition.
The HD650 are on sale for $350 on newegg with the code 042MTHRSDAY11
Join the 650 master race
>>54139728
>$350
>still has the cable flaw
No thanks, they sounded amazing but I flipped to akg years ago. Doesn't sound as nice but at least it fucking works.
Most tragically flawed audio product in history, yes I'm still mad
>>54139765
What is this cable flaw. Happy owner of the flawless hd650 for going on 3 years. No issues. Only auditory bliss
its HIFIMAN HE400S the best sound i can get for 300$? ( including nice new set of pads )
>>54139805
Do you have an amp already?
>>54139960
No , do i must have one? i found this review
''the HE400S is so efficient that they can be driven to solid listening levels with a smartphone.''
What changes?
The impedance HD650 requires an amplifier. If you don't wanna invest the same price for a decent amp, go for HD598 which still is a top-tier headphone.
>>54139728
Bumplimit is 310 not 300.
Looking for some earphones/buds that won't fall out and are under £30 they have to be on amazon uk also
I mostly listen to metallica, taylor swift, mystery skulls and queen
>>54140056
>The impedance HD650 requires an amplifier.
My Note 5 and Cowon DAP drives the HD650 just fine.
>>54140109
Yeah, its output has more power than a regular smartphone / laptop, so it should be ok. But HD650 + onboard soundcard is not a good idea.
>>54140056
>>54140109
i think it's sorta the opposite now. because of the loudness wars, the hd650 doesn't really need an amp. And the sennheiser 598, because of the way it's impedance changes, needs low output impedance, ie, a good amp, to have the proper frequency response.
>>54139728
>headphones
ahahahahahah
>>54140256
I think you need to do a bit more research in regards to the "loudness war." Brickwalling was limited to the tracks not the players. Didn't the that end like a decade ago?
Many portable players don't have the power to push anything but the easiest to drive headphones (notable example was the old Sansa clip) which had nothing to do with the loudness war.
>>54140382
Sansa can drive the HD650. They are an easy load. You need to learn how to interpret voltage sensitivity and impedance together, not just assume high impedance = difficult to drive.
>>54140473
>Sansa can drive the HD650.
At near top volume and then it's kind of quiet. On my Note 5 it hits loud at the warning limit and on my Cowon C2 it's loud at 25/40.
Should I buy an Audio-Technica M50X for general use?
>>54139728
And have a permanent "veil" over my music? No thanks, fampai
>>54139728
>>54139728
Comfy as fuck with my B&W P7's that arrived in the post today. Breddy fugging gud, would recommend. Getting shot of my memeheisers on eBay to some unsuspecting soul ASAP
What is the next logical upgrade to my ATH-IM01?
Etymotic ER4P-Ts?
>>54140382
so in the 80s the average loudness of an album was in the -15db to -20db range and now it's in the -5 to -10db range. So simply listening to modern music now is like having an amp with +10db gain in the 80s.
The cost of this was the dynamics of the actual music. But on the flip side, that's why all these anecdotes of "i can drive these headphones with my shitty device" are plausible. Cause modern music is mastered in a way that an amp is dramatically less important than it used to be.
>>54141247
For pop music, yes. But keep in mind the style of most pop music is well suited to that kind of treatment. So much of it is sampled and blended, the natural volume of voices or instruments is kind of bedside the point, it's like bitching that your CGI monster film has unrealistic lighting.
You can still get high dynamic range acoustic recordings, they are getting harder to find especially with the demise of Telarc, but they didn't stop making them. It's just that the kind of music that HDR recording flatters the most happens to be unfashionable.
Is hd800 good for rap/r'n'd and hip-hop? I need top headphones to reproduce quality music.
>>54141247
>So simply listening to modern music now is like having an amp with +10db gain in the 80s.
How many amps does that convert to? None. Simply because the track sounds louder does not mean you get more sound actually coming from the driver.
>>54141419
the beats are going to sound flat and the snares will rape your ears
HD 800 are not good for any kind of music, really
>>54139728
The OP should be the SHP9500 because they're better.
>better build quality
>non proprietary single entry 3.5mm cable
>much more comfortable.
>fits bigger heads
>has a tiny bit better bass extension
>not veiled/actually has treble
>much better design that conforms to your head.
>no amp needed
>a 4th the price
>better imaging and sound stage.
>Budget
$50-80
>Location
US
>Source
Phone/iPod
>Preferred type of headphone
Wireless, really need these to be wireless
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
Any
>Preferred tonal balance
Any
>Preferred music
Audiobooks and pop music
>Past headphones
iPod headphones
>>54141649
(You)
>>54140628
Confirmed for not having a proper DAC/amp. The hd650 is far from veiled. Their sound variest greatly depending on the source tho
>>54142018
they have no mids
>>54142044
Have you heard the 600 or 650? They produced mids better than anything else in their price range.
>>54142078
even ad900 has better mids and if i could get those they would cost under $200 on ebay
>>54140016
sound quality
>Budget
$100 no more
>Location
Canada
>Source
Android phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Buds with inline microphone and preferably action button.
>Open or closed
N/A
>Comfort level
I would rather not have them fall out of my ears all the time.
>Preferred tonal balance
Any
>Preferred music
Video game music, so... instrumental and low-definition, I guess.
>Past headphones
MEElectronics EDM Universe
I am looking for headphones that won't fucking break after 2 months.
>>54140535
Cowon Masterrace!
Still have 2 Cowon D2.
>>54139728
just a reminder that i bought hd650s for $350 of ebay
they're worth that, but you can find a used pair for $200
>>54142018
hd650 owner here
there is a veil -- its slightly suppressed midrange that can make certain recordings sound muddy -- also, they do benefit greatly from an amp -- sound quality is not just "loudness" (you fucking imbeciles)
>>54142285
I hope they fill the void for that wife and family you'll never have.
> Budget:
100$
> Location:
USA
> Preferred type of headphone:
on-ear
> Comfort:
Yes please, I care more about isolation though (if you can have isolation with on ear headphones?)
> Tonal balance:
neutral
> Preferred music:
All sorts, pop, EDM, indie, rock, hiphop. Probably in that order
> Past headphones:
Beyerdynamic DT770, some 50$ Hifiman IEMs
Is the Sennheiser HD 202 IIa meme?
>>54142338
>>54139728
>The HD650 are on sale for $350
isn't $350 basically the old price before they hiked up the price up $100 for no reason
am I remembering wrong
> Budget:
500$
> Location:
USA
> Preferred type of headphone:
open over ear
> Comfort:
if I can wear it for hours at a time then it's good in my book
> Tonal balance:
balanced with a good bass response
> Preferred music:
weeb shit, jazz, rock, brass band, chiptune/electronic
> Past headphones:
NVX XPT100, hifiman e10, shitty walmart earbuds
>>54143159
HE400i
>> Past headphones:
>hifiman e10
Wot
>>54143200
soundmagic e10 I mean, I fucked up big there
>>54140099
Try the KYS URZ3LF
>>54143200
how shitty is the 400i's soundstage?
>>54143311
Soundstage is a the biggest audio meme.
>>54143321
>I can't afford anything better than portapros
>>54140550
yes, i recommend. Ignore those who think it's a meme, they are genuinely good headphones for the price.
>>54142122
Amps can't increase sound quality. That's where a DAC/Amp is needed.
>>54140550
>>54143465
I can second this, I love my pair and use them all the time
Need headphones ~60 euros
Closed back
listen to meme compilations, hip-hop
Thinking about Ath-m30x
Any suggestions?
>>54143465
>>54143536
What's the average amount of time you can wear them before they get uncomfortable? I'm most likely to be wearing them for really long periods of time. (4-5 hours)
>>54143796
about 1 minute. Horrible headphones. SELL
>>54143796
I could wear them endlessly without discomfort when i first got them, although after a few years the pads get hard and you need to replace them.
>>54143500
They do alleviate the problem of underpowering headphones which can degrade sound quality.
>>54144059
I suppose, i assumed that by quality you meant fidelity. i suppose volume levels factor into audio quality.
>>54143159
HD650 or 600, if you like bass 650
bump.
wireless earphones at the gym
holy fuck amazon has a bunch of chinese stuff it's hard to filter.
>>54144235
>wireless
>>54144306
but I've got denons ahd2000 and audiotechnica for gaming
D:
>>54144363
What does that have to do with the idiocy of wanting wireless headphones?
>>54144418
to use at the gym a wire coming out of my pocket is becoming a nuisance
>V-shaped headphones
what the fuck are these supposed to be? How do people manage to wear them?
>>54144439
Run the wire under your shirt or get a wireless adapter and tie it together with a zip tie. Wireless headphones are retarded. They add cost, complexity and proprietary tech just to get nearly as good as wired headphones.
>>54144470
just ran into wireless adapters while searching for alternatives
looks like i might go with the audiotechnica import from japan
>>54144467
Under the chin
>>54139728
But for like half the price of those you can get yourself a pair of AKG K240 Studios and a decent DAC and EQ those to your preference.
>>54144507
that's the most retarded thing I've ever seen
they actually make headphones that's supposed to be worn that way?
pic related, who thought this was a good idea?
>not wearing a beanie wireless headset
>2016
Just ordered a pair of Echobox Finder X1s. Anyone here have hands-on experience with either the Finder IEMs or their Explorer DAP? It seems like they've gotten quite a bit of praise for a startup with their first offerings.
Also, a lot of reviews call the X1s "U-shaped". Anyone ever had any U-shaped headphones before? I tend to like V-shaped signatures, so I'm sure that I'll enjoy these, but they've got my interest piqued.
>>54144467
>>54144527
Memes aside, V-shaped refers to the sound signature: boosted bass, boosted highs, recessed mids.
>>54144576
>2016
>not willingly having radiowaves beamed close to your brain for prolonged periods of time
it's like you plebs don't want cancer
Thinking of getting the HD700s, mainly for production / mixing but also just for listening. Any other headphones to look for in the same price range?
>>54145013
HD700 are literally worse than the HD558. Get the 600 or 650.
>>54139728
>Join the 650 master race
Get the fuck out.
In the sub $100 open back game is the Sennheiser HD 558 the best choice?
>>54145031
The 600s are very warm and pleasant to be sure, but I'm after something very precise and analytical that reveals any little flaw in mixing or mastering. The 700s seemed perfect for me in that regard, because well-produced music sounded great while it was easy to hear that some other songs had some issues.
>>54145318
600 are more neutral than the 700. The 700 is colored and bright, technically speaking it's worse in every way.
>>54145330
I'm more concerned with detail and instrument separation that how flat they are. You can learn the headphones' character and compensate, but if the detail isn't there, you can't just imagine it into existence. Do you use headphones for mixing at all?
>>54145382
Name a single person on this planet who uses the HD700 to mix or do any sort of critical audio work.
They are not more detailed than the 600 or 650, if anything they're less detailed as the glare from the spiky treble masks it. HD700 also don't have the stage or imaging capabilities of the 800. They basically take all the bad aspects of the 800 and make them twice as bad while retaining no good qualities from the HD800 outside the build and comfort, even then the comfort is questionable as the cup is shallow like the 600/650.
>>54145013
Get a pair of studio monitors.
>muh germancuck engineering
high-end chink shit sounds just as good for a quarter of the price
![attachment[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zqyJViu.jpg "attachment[1].jpg")
Should I buy the IE-80's?
Otherwise any other IEM's with ear hooks and a replaceable cable? Really tired of my headphones getting destroyed because the cable breaks or frays
>>54145458
Just like their cars, amirite?
>>54145407
All I'm saying is I prefer the 700's in terms of what I think I could accomplish with them, if there are better headphones in the same pricerange I would love suggestions, but I personally would not pick the 600's.
>>54145451
I have a good pair of monitors, I need something to use when working in the evening / night.
>>54145521
HE-400i, HE-560 depending on what is considered the 700's 'price range' these days.
>>54145552
The problem with planars is that they generally don't resolve treble very well, you may screw up the high frequencies due to the strong roll-off, they're good for enjoying music but not referencing.
If you really have to produce music on headphones for whatever reason, it's better to err on the side of plain bass, bright treble than thick bass and no treble.
>>54142307
It indeed isn't but amplification is not rocket science and the purpose of an amplifier is to increase the power of the signal to increase volume.
>>54143321
Not when it's used accordingly. It's a thing which mixing has the largest effect on and loudspeakers do present you with a soundstage. Headphones really don't, not in the same way.
>>54145662
>The problem with planars is that they generally don't resolve treble very well
You're really talking out of your ass here, I don't know what has you so hung over the HD700 but nobody with anything close to a respectable opinion on headphones considers the HD700 good in any sense.
>it's better to err on the side of plain bass, bright treble than thick bass and no treble.
HD700 have a huge midrange hump making the bass and upper midrange seem even more anemic and lacking.
>>54143500
That's a ridiculous statement.
>>54145382
Detail is in the frequency response(+nonlinearities). HD 700 sucks at the most important part - frequency response.
>>54145013
You don't mix and master with headphones, you do that with accurate pair of loudspeakers. And as for accurate headphones, HD 700 is on the other end of the spectrum. HD 600 is fairly accurate and some closed backs like DT 250 and MDR-7506 are too.
>>54145464
Get the ATH-IM70 instead. IE 80 is shit. Horrible midbass hump and way too pricey.
>>54145875
god damnit all this fucking compromise, just make headphones flat and boring as god intended them.
>>54141419
No one else want to bite?
>>54146063
>flat and boring
Flat is the opposite of boring.
>>54146145
With speakers yes, headphone 'flat' (diffuse bullshit) is horrid. Hence why Harman are trying to figure out a better curve for headphones.
>>54143159
philips fidelio x2, fug the bass in these are good
>>54146177
I've got them to and love them, but I might grab myself a more neutral HD600 or HE400i in the future to establish a baseline.
I think I should've started with more neutral headphones before deciding on a coloured set.
Tempted to try a brighter set with more prominent highs, but I am worried about sibilance and becoming more aware of my tinnitus frequency which is somewhere in the high end, guessing around 19Khz based on tone generator it is really hard to figure out.
It is not severe and most of the time I can ignore it, but sometimes the ringing is loud enough to be a little irritating and hard to ignore.
Oddly enough sometimes when I play a pure tone around 12.3Khz at reasonably loud volume for a few seconds the ringing seems to subside for a short period of time.
The sound doesn't change at all if I muffle my ears, block my nose and blow, or pour some water in them so it must be in my brain.
>>54146177
no subbass and bloated muddy midbass
Do I buy the new Etymotic ER4SR that will release? Or do I save up for a custom IEM? ie. UE 18? I already own all current Etys except HF5.
anything wireless that's decent and cheap to get?? must be wireless
>>54146386
paid $200 for 'em. not much else around that price point that does as many things as well as the x2s. willing to forgo the deepest bass and a little overrun into the midrange for what these offer overall.
>>54146543
x2s do nothing right, the frequency response is a mess, the distortion is worse than the other dynamics in that price range.
the only thing they boast is their build quality and detachable 3.5mm
>>54146499
What's the problem with the Etys?
If you want different then something coloured with similar form factor, like IE800, would do.
>>54146589
No problems. I'll keep an eye out for a used IE800. I did had a chance to get a used mint SE846 for $470 but I hesitated and didn't get it.
>>54140764
bump
>>54146687
How much can you get the Ety for? Don't over pay because there is a new one coming out in May.
>>54139765
the fuck are you talking about these things still keep going strong after a decade
>>54146687
Get them if you don't mind the literal ear rape triple flange.
>>54146159
Which is almost DF with bass shelf. No headphone matches the targets too well. EQ is the answer. DF is great for in ears and makes more sense in them.
>>54139765
Cable flaw?
>>54146862
Bass shelf and lowered treble.
>>54146721
like 250
>>54146769
I use triple flanges on my ATH
I'll be using them no matter the IEM
I'm just wondering if theres anything else to look out for in the sub 300 range
Has anyone tried these yet? Do they suck ass?
>>54147889
not personally
http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/18/11261586/bragi-dash-review-wireless-bluetooth-earbuds
lol at that fucking hifiman exchange program for a he1000
>nano thick membrane made out of cling wrap
>patented window shade system made from screen doors
>meticulously crafted quality-checked by hand that's until you open it up and see it's made of glue and shit
>exchange program and it's still too expensive
>>54148056
forgot link
store.hifiman.com/index.php/trade-up/trade-up-from-sennheiser-hd800-he1000.html
In lay terms can someone tell me what I would benefit from by getting the IM02 over the IM70?
I don't currently own the 70s, but I want one of these two.
>>54148176
While both _generally_ have a balanced response, the IM02 is flatter and not in an ugly red.
Basically, get IM02.
Thinking about getting the vsonic gr07 classic
Any better alternatives for IEMs in the 100$ range?
>>54139728
Enjoy your dark wall of sound
>499 YOU ASS DOLLARS
what dac/amp combo can i get thats cheaper and performs just as well
>>54148279
No one knows how well it performs until you've posted some measurements.
>>54148279
O2 ODAC is the endgame.
>>54148279
O2 and ODAC
Magni and Modi
Likely both of those exceed the performance of that thing while being cheaper. Impossible to say without measurements.
>>54148387
http://www.changstar.com/www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,734.0.html
http://www.changstar.com/www.changstar.com/index.php/topic%2c2617.0.html
>>54144467
Are you retarded or is this bait?
Describe why you arent using tri-flange IEMs?
-'they fall out' can not be a reason why.
>>54148491
These we know but we don't know the performance of that 499 dollar DA-converter headphone amplifier -combo.
>>54148556
Uncomfortable thus I use comply tips.
>>54148556
Tried them on my 535 and it started hurting after a minute so I stick with olives.
>>54148556
tri-flange tips are fiddly and the tip if not wet loses seal so easily.
>>54144467
Someone should make massive headphones with drivers the size of small dinner plates which slide on with straps that go under your chin and over your head.
For shits and giggles.
What's the lowest bitrate AAC can go while still being transparent
>>54148603
just take a motorcycle helmet and put huge drivers on the sides for muh authentic bass
>>54148719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBW4l2TcZw8
Are the Sennheiser Urbanite (xl and normal) good enough for 150 dollars and 100 dollars?
I have some shitty senn 180 for street and hyperx cloud ii for PC and sometimes when i go out
>>54148556
Inferior and fiddly sound quality.
>>54148275
GR07 is a vented dynamic driver with little isolation. Possibly the Fiio EX1/Dunu Titan 1.
>>54146537
How cheap is cheap? Mee Air-Fi Matrix 2 was okay.
>>54146159
>>54146862
You don't seem to get what diffuse field EQ is. Nor the result of Sean Olive's studies, for that matter. Did you even read them?
>>54148673
There are many variants of MP3 and AAC encoders.
If by transparency you mean mostly (90+ %) indistinguishable, probably around 128-160 kbps with Apple's version.
>>54148673
Depends on your ears, the audio content, the encoder used as well as on your equipment. I'd say with the best encoders the AAC gets completely trasparent at around 192kbps but generally lower than that. It's really good on low bitrates.
>>54139728
>Beyerdynamic T1 on sale for 600 €
Is the HE400i a worthwhile upgrade to HE400S?
>>54149201
still 3 times as expensive as it should be
>>54149240
yes, but you're better off placing the stock pads and learning how to EQ
These are the best possible headphones you can get for <$500, only $150 with some complications and DIY involved:
SHP9500:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=527403076360
Replace drivers with Berilliyum Drivers x 2:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=522143325904&ali_refid=a3_430582_1006:1121685624:N:50MM:c5f344fb582ddbafb4ad0c008236a2e6&ali_trackid=1_c5f344fb582ddbafb4ad0c008236a2e6#detail
Use a taobao agent (check /cgl/) for shipping.
>>54149347
Brainwavz pads or focus pads? Any resources for EQing / a premade one?
>>54149240
From what I've read in previous threads, many consider it to be a side-grade at best.
>>54149356
focus pads are probably best, but both will do.
Equalizer APO + Peace GUI. it's pretty intuitive if you aren't completely clueless
>>54149377
Sweet I'll check it out. I'm assuming I want to check the FR graphs and "cancel out" any peaks or recessed frequencies?
>>54149413
you can use FR graphs for bass and mids, but it's better to do treble by ear due to different anatomy between you and the dummy head used for measurements. SineGen can help you discover dips and peaks.
Fuck yeah Zeos reviewed my headphones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7GxmSw32Gc
He fucking loved them!
>>54139728
>tfw bought my HD 650's new for $280 a few months ago
Feels good, man.
>>54149377
I'm not that other anon, but thanks dude. The wiki on EQ was pretty confusing, but I'm just playing around with Peace right now and I'm actually hearing shit, which I normally don't.
>>54149603
i'll see if i can clean up the section on the wiki about EQ. seems like it has been requested a lot recently.
the first line about lowering the preamp is solid advice. the link to the head-fi article should be removed entirely.
>>54149466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oDtqdrDInI
They sound great! Should i get a pair? They don't seem to isolate well.
>>54149676
Thanks man. I'm pretty new to this, and it seems like what's out there is geared towards people who already know what they're doing.
Let me see if I've got this. So if I boost 500hz to +3db, I should lower my overall volume by -3db?
>>54149749
click on pic related to see the affect on the FR and lower your preamp accordingly.
a numeric +3dB boost might not give a 1:1 boost, especially not when using several bands.
What is a good AMP/DAC combo I can get for around 200-300. I want one that also has bananaplug outs for speakers. Need something for my desk because I'm moving it out of the room with my receiver.
Massdrop has the Kanto Yaro 2 with speakers set for about 250 which seems a decent choice, but I'm not sure how their quality compares. Was thinking about getting a TEAC.
>>54147889
Yes, they're shit. Why don't you watch LinusShillTips?
>>54150092
I watch zeos, he has the final word in it. patiently waiting for his review. Linus will say anything is good for money, if he doesn't get money he will only say bad things.
>>54150047
Modi2/magni2 get the uber versions to power your monitors
>>54150261
So I would need both and still have only headphone out? That doesn't seem worth it really.
>>54148352
I would say o2 amp and any fucking dac that's clearly cheaper than the o2 one.That's what I do.
>>54150368
No you would also have RCA outs on the back and multiple inputs. Schiit sound good.
>>54150590
Ah the uber magni also has outs. I've never used RCA out to speakers, can I plug in any speakers with some sort of converter and banana's or do you need speakers made for RCA?
$180 for each of the two plus a new set of speakers seems awfully steep compared to that Kanto Yaro set though.
>>54150639
I just use a RCA to 1/4" to power my JBL LSR305's. What the hell are you using that needs banana plugs?
>>54150927
I don't even know what I'm going to use for the desk speaker wise yet, but I've got Pioneers off my receiver for TV surround. Just never used RCA for speakers. I like how banana lets you customize length and setup easily though.
i tried to fix the wiki section about EQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Headphones#Equalizer_and_how_to_equalize_your_headphones
going afk for ~40 minutes now.
>>54148275
RHA MA750
Been using some AD700Xs for the last couple of years. Really was liking the opens, since trying to talk with closed headphones on feels terrible. 700s Starting to wear thin on me, what's the next step up if any? I suppose a step down as well, since I might have to look for a more desirable price.
>>54145464
UE900
>>54148673
I ripped most of my CD with iTunes years ago at 128 kbps M4A, aka AAC. There's no difference between the digital files and the original CD copy. For how much I generally hate Apple products and policies, I have to admit that their lossy file type is great.
are the Fostex x Massdrop TH-X00 Purpleheart Headphones a meme or worth getting? they're $449
I currently use AKG K7XX from massdrop but not too impressed with them and use an oppo ha-2 amp/dac.
would these be a decent improvement in the sub $500 price range?
I'm really considering getting a pair of HD-800's.
What amp/dac would you guys recommend to go along with it?
>>54152655
For that price you could get a good 2.1 speaker system and you'll surely hear a much larger improvement.
>>54152738
i use a klipsch promedia 2.1 system but i rarely use them since my neighbors always fucking complain about the noise
>>54152711
800 or 800S ?
I hear tubes go well with the 800.
>>54152836
800
i've been considering tubes, there's just so much information about tubes and tube amps that it's almost overwhelming
>>54152782
I'm sorry for you then. The Fostex won't grant an improvement over the K7XX, even though it's twice as expensive.
>>54152889
Yeah once my lease is up in 7 months im going to definitely move to a new place with thicker walls
>>54152655
Zeos loved the TH-X00 they are not a meme.
>>54152921
Or you could get a pair of monitor speakers. They may be even better than the speaker setup you already have. But yeah, frankly I don't recommend to spend more than 300$ for headphones, the best open headphones in terms of price/performance ratio cost less than that.
>>54152981
yeah but are they substantially better than what I currently use the AKG k7xx?
>>54152441
Should probably mention my price range is like 70~150
I've had my Gamecom 780 for several years. They're pretty astounding for the 40 bucks I paid for them, but they're either starting to break down or I'm just noticing the sound quality isn't good enough.
How is the Sennheiser PC 363D?
I'm getting mixed reviews with people saying the sound quality is shit, and others saying it's good.
Other suggestions welcome, my price range is <200$. I'd prefer wired, good sound quality surround sound headphones. Mic quality isn't necessary, if it's bad I'll just buy a standalone mic.
>>54153560
shp9500
v-moda boompro*
xonar u7*
*just a suggestion I don't own either
>>54153125
Oh yes, 10x better. Amazeballs with the bass extension. It just chuffs bass at you.
>>54152883
I have HD800's and I use the HA-2 because I'm on the move all the time and have most of my music on my phone, it's plenty powerful. The Geek Out V2 uses nearly the same components but has more output if you plan to use planars.
I don't think tubes are as important as people think they are, as long as the amp is a good match for the 800's they'll sound good, but the only way to tell is by trying them out. Contrary to what people say, they're not hard to drive, they are actually fairly sensitive, you just need an amp with very low output impedance because of the massive impedance swing of the 800's.
I follow the O2+ODAC mentality of leaving the DAC and amp as neutral as possible and letting the headphones and EQ color the sound; if you don't like the 800's clinical sound then maybe you didn't need 800's, or mod them or get the 800S. To my ears and the music I listen to the sound is just right, and it's basically my end game.
That said, I very regularly see on here and elsewhere is that the bottlehead crack + speedball is one of the best synergies with the HD800 and at $415 isn't terribly expensive. It's a DIY kit that you have to put together yourself, which I'm honestly too lazy to ever bother doing, but you might find it interesting. People also mention Woo Audio amps a lot in the same breath as the HD800's so there's that.
>>54154521
im too lazy for diy, so if i ever decide to get a tube amp, ill probably just get a one from woo
but thanks for your impressions, ive listened to the 800\s and i really cannot admire them enough for classical, which is most of what i listen to anyways
Does anyone here know what the difference between the K7XX first edition and limited edition is?
>>54152883
Get a lyr2 so you can have both. Suppose to sound great with hd800
>>54153560
Hd518 with a separate mic of your choice. This is not the thread for gaming headsets
>>54155244
Figured. I wasn't necessarily looking for a gaming headset, but headphones with virtual surround sound are few and far between.
>>54155272
Surround sound is a gimmick in headphones. Any high quality headphone with a good source and recording will have way better imaging than those programs that simulate surround sound
If you can afford the hd558 or 598 it will be better than any headset you could get under $200. They don't need an external amp either which is nice.
What do you think the best pair of over-ears are in the UK for under £50?
>>54154618
What a coincidence, I also listen to classical, acoustic and intimate stuff like fados where you might have just a singer, guitar, flute and percussion.
Generally anything with decent dynamics where digital effects don't rear their head is where I think the strong suit of these cans are.
>>54155272
While >>54155393 is right that in-headphone surround is a gimmick, you don't necessarily need the function to be in the headphone. Razer Surround is a purely software-based 5.1/7.1 to HRTF DSP that should work with anything, and Dolby Headphone is available on many sound cards or as a (fairly limited) Foobar plugin. Alternatively the old Creative X-Fi has arguably the best HRTF implementation as CMSS 3D, which if you happen to play any old games with hardware audio, will give you fully 3D sound and not just a 5.1 simulation, but finding one and getting it to work is a problem. You have plenty of options in this regard and good headphones will just improve the immersion.
Your opinion on wireless bluetooth headphones? I have a nice set of speakers but can't play music loudly late at night because of the people in the apartment next door.
I like the idea of being able to move freely around but don't want complete shit quality.
>>54155698
Sony MDR-1ADAC are not completely shit. Pretty comfy too.
>>54155223
Don't forget to buy 120$ fuses. I heard they are greatly improve sound from lyr
So why are bluetooth headphones bad?
I'd imagine it's just cause the price is due to the bluetooth itself and the sound quality is terrible because bluetooth headphones as of now don't primarily focus much on the audio quality. But lately I've heard people say that it's just cause the bluetooth is distorting the audio
Are bluetooth headphones bad the same way gaming headsets are bad?
>>54148951
Eh is there anything out there with a better quality cable?
Both the dunu and fiio have shitty build quality
I have a he400s at home, I just need something when I'm out and about
>>54155912
>So why are bluetooth headphones bad?
>Are bluetooth headphones bad the same way gaming headsets are bad?
Partially. See below.
>I'd imagine it's just cause the price is due to the bluetooth itself and the sound quality is terrible because bluetooth headphones as of now don't primarily focus much on the audio quality.
Price is an issue. You pay a tax for wireless that you can save by just buying a bluetooth adapter to work with regular wired headphones (and coil it up and ziptie the adapter and wires to the headphones for a diy "wireless" setup). However, even the adapter has the same issues with wireless in general. To wit, they need to be charged, they have a short range, getting them to mate can sometimes be a pain, it's an added component to break (which is easier to replace with an adapter rather than replacing the whole headphones), and worst of all bluetooth by default compresses audio meaning significant loss in audio quality. Some companies have proprietary technology to alleviate the audio compression but that's still getting the audio quality to about as good as wired headphones _and_ you have to use specific compatible hardware.
I'm considering Shure SR215 for work (long usage comfort, no sound leaking etc) is there anything I should look into in the same price range? (100 USD or rather up to 100 GBP)
>>54157051
Senn Momentum In Ear and RHA MA750
Anyone know a good IEM to isolate the sound/music?
I really need to tune out all the yelling and screaming (domestic violence shit thrown at me) and I need to escape.
>>54157104
Bose Quiet Comfort 20 ($299)
Full review
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/travelers-sanctuary-bose-quiet-comfort-20-noise-canceling-earphone#JLKQWoEoQE4rqmvs.97
torn between rha 750, se215, and the ath-im70
anyone here have any insight on which would provide the best noise isolation and build quality?
>>54157104
Most IEMs isolate well. Though if you have DV going on around you it sounds like something you should try to resolve rather than escape from.
>>54157334
Shure offer the best isolation. RHA have the best build quality.
>>54157364
rha it is then
thanks brother
>>54157093
Thank you, I will check them out
What the hell happened to the OP while I was out of town?
>>54157364
>sounds like something you should try to resolve rather than escape from.
The only way that happens is if I commit a family member to the insane asylum. For real.
>tfw spent $740 on a headphone setup for occaisionally listening to music/vidya/anime just because I'm obsessed with sound quality
fug :DDD
>>54158956
>obsessed with sound quality
Gets closed back headphones :')
How do you describe the difference in actual sound between amp and no amp? I don't care about pure loudness
>>54159048
Some headphones = better sound quality with amp
Some headphones = no change beside loudness
>>54139728
Were I to buy headphones right now, it'd be those, or possibly the Massdrop Purpleheart Fostex if I was feeling a bit more spendy.
But I just spent a few hundred building some speakers and an amp, so no, I will not be getting new headphones anytime soon. :(
>>54159025
Muh noise isolation
>>54158917
Counseling is an option, but it's not like I know your situation.
>>54159048
There wouldn't be one. The purpose of an amplifier is to amplify. Effects such as impedance buffering are secondary effects.
These aren't guitar amplifiers either, their only purpose is more output.
>>54155912
>bluetooth headphones as of now don't primarily focus much on the audio quality.
Some do, most don't.
>But lately I've heard people say that it's just cause the bluetooth is distorting the audio
Bluetooth isn't much of a problem itself these days. It has more to do with most "consumer" sets being of substandard acoustics rather than electrical or data problems. The lossy compression factor isn't nearly the core issue, contrary to what you might read otherwise.
>>54155987
Not especially poor build, but do you have any additional constraints to place on what your are looking for?
>>54159276
I don't get it... I assume it amplifies the spectrum better so you hear more of the full sound even at lower sound levels?
My friends personally think I'm crazy for having my headphones too low, but I can hear music fine and hell if I'm damaging my ears
>>54159276
>Counseling is an option, but it's not like I know your situation
Maybe. It's just tough dealing with people with legitimate dementia.
My sony mdrv6 earcups are fibally destroting themselves. I remember suggesting another headphones' earpads or whatever theyre called. Which headphpnes were they? I really need to replace these
Does anyone know what other headphones are compatible with the BoomPro mic? Exceptions are the SHP9500 and X2, the X2s since I already have them and the SHP9500 because they're fucking impossible to find in the UK
>>54159301
By amplify we mean to make louder. It makes the volume go to 11, so to speak.
>>54159367
Only so much you can do when the mind is going out.
I would think palliative care or hospital care is more appropriate than throwing them into the asylum, as stressful as it is to live with someone like that. They fall ill more easily, especially when are they incapable of helping themselves. But that's your family, not mine.
Any other IEMs any good around 250? besides the etymotic ER4P-T
Can /hpg/ recommend an entry level dac/amp for use with Roland RH-200s? I'm in NZ but budget is roughly 250-300 USD. Source is my desktop so it doesn't need to be portable
>>54160265
Schiit modi/ magni 2
Got these dt990's from some old lady on craigslist for $80. She said they were her dead sons.
Anyway, the jack seems to be fucked and I can't get any sound. I didn't think to test when I got them because the lady didn't look like the type to rip someone off (read nigger).
Is this an easy fix?
>>54159716
Literally anything with a 3.5mm jack.
We lost a warrior today.
My trusty portapros bit the dust today
The headphones were on my head, but the cable was not plugged in. It was then that my computer chair rolled over the cord, got it caught in the wheels, and pulled very hard on the cord.
No sound emanates from the headphones anymore.
I forgot how much I paid for them, so I looked them up on amazon. I found my price, but I found something else.
Amazon showed me that I bought the headphones 3 days short of 7 years ago.
My heart thumped. I could not believe I had them for so long. Fuck.
So good night portapros. I remember hearing about you first here on /g/ and how much they praised you. And now you are nothing but an empty vessel.
Forever in my memories. ;_;7
>>54160777
You're funny but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't know how many headphones have proprietary jacks/twist lock systems which the BoomPro isn't compatible with
>>54158869
Just bought the same IEMs
They are coming in tomorrow
How are they
>>54158956
>obsessed
>closed back
Pick one
>>54160614
Never had those cans but if the cable isn't removeable from the headphones then he gonna have to pull some DIY shit
Just bought a dt770 80 ohm and fiio a3. Thanks for the advice guys!
>>54160892
if you werent lazy you could just solder a new cable on them
>>54160265
Modi 2 + magni 2
U can get the uber versions if you want to upgrade a wittle too
>>54161014
Unfortunately, they're not removable.
I've never soldered anything so I wouldn't have a clue on how to do anything like that.
Would there be a way to replace just the connector?
>>54159552
I've got Brainwavz pads on my 7506s and it is much more comfortable but they lift the drivers a bit too far away from my ears and the sound loses detail.
Beyerdynamic EDT250 pads are also known to fit but I haven't tried them.
Picking up some Sony 7506 headphones tomorrow. Anything to look forward to about them?
>>54161296
amazon has a 30-day return policy
>>54160892
like what do you mean "pulled very hard on the cord"? Did the cord sever where the chair rolled over or did the cable jerk so hard it messed up the connections inside the 'phone? Either way it seems pretty simple to fix with a soldering iron.
>>54161296
Stock pads are small and uncomfortable
>>54161366
I hear Amazon gets shady products now and then. Ever since they sent out fake CPU's I have had a strong stigma from buying online again.
My local music store also has that policy as well.
>>54160977
Good clarity. A little v-shaped. Robust build so there's no need to baby them. I just wish it came with a changeable wax filter.
>>54139728
give me ONE reason you don't have the senneheiser 558
in the /g/ headphone >$200 guide, why does the 400i say "amplification benefits" if it's already easy to drive considering its low impedance?
>>54160892
They are so ugly but they are pretty good headphones, especially for the price. Though I think the Px100 is a little bit better because it folds flat instead of curling into a ball like these do.
>>54162183
some headphones have better damping and/or they have impedance swings that make them sound off with cheap amps, even if they get loud enough. my mad dogs and 668b have slightly tighter bass out of my e10 than out of say my phone. its a small difference but it's there. maybe the 400i is like that? most headphones don't do this though.
>>54163252
orthodynamics are (essentially) purely resistive loads, damping factor is meaningless with them.
you're imagining things if you think mad dogs have 'tighter' bass on a low impedance source. they have a flat impedance like all other planars.
>>54153284
>>54152441
some people swear by the ad series but personally I think the 558/598 is the perfect gaming/talking/all-day headphone. all open ATH headphones besides I think the r70x have pretty noticeable bass roll off.
>>54163497
if you're gonna be buying nobass headphones may as well buy the best - ma900
>>54163513
HD598SE user here. There is plenty of bass in the 598. They are very neutral, so some use to a V signature may say that. While the mid bass isn't as forward as my HD650, the bass and sub bass on the 598 extends just as low as my 650's
>>54163525
650s don't have any subbass extension, you're making a terrible comparison if you think them matching the 650 is a good thing.
>>54163541
Just comparing them to other open backed headphones from the same company but are 3x more expensive. They do not have bass like close headphones. But it is there, and isn't lacking in any way. It is just neutral.
>>54163548
it's not netural and it is lacking, because it's rolled off relative to a flat response. this isn't rocket science.
>>54163567
go back to your beats. I've listened to them and ended up keeping them. They sound great and are super comfortable. They are certainly neutral and have bass. Now go fuck off 3/10 for me replying.
