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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Which thinkpads can I buy that will play battlefied bad company 2? I'm guessing I'll have to get a dGPU one. Maybe w500?
Reposting from previous
Should I get a T420 now, or save up for a W530? I love thicc laptops, plus I'll be doing moderate cryptography work and infosec in addition to programming.
>>54136130
Get a W520.
>>54136130
get G40, the thiccest thinkpad
>>54136130
Dell Precision or HP if you want a mobile workstation.
Wondering if its OK to overclock a 2.4ghz t420? How hot does it get?
>>54137324
I'm pretty sure you can't overclock a mobile processor. Even if you could, it wouldn't be a good idea on the T420 since its cooling isn't great to begin with.
>>54136028
>>54137479
I wish I could do that shit to my X220.
>>54137479
>>54137494
Anybody got a T430 with a quad-core i7 in it? I could get one for 500 €. It also has a 480GB SSD and 2 x 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3. I'm kinda worried about possible heat issues though.
>>54137494
Intel CPUs newer than 2009 (and AMD newer than 2013) contain backdoors and mandatory proprietary code that makes Libreboot support basically impossible.
I have thought about getting a newer thinkpad, but the x200 does everything I need it to, and I can use it in freedom. My desktop does have a new CPU though.
>>54137479
>>54137532
How do i change the Thinkpad logo on boot? not meaning grub, not using it, meaning the firmware stage
>>54137620
Price sounds about right. No heating problems because of newer architecture, but still being a bulky laptop with plenty of ventilation space.
Go for it.
How to get Power manager 6 on windows 10?
>>54137677
That looks like a mod for the lenovo BIOS. There is probably a utility somewhere.
>>54137648
That's a damn shame. Hopefully somebody eventually finds some way around it.
>>54137691
Step 1: Remove the Malware OS
Step 2: Install GNU/Linux
>>54137648
>Intel CPUs newer than 2009 (and AMD newer than 2013) contain backdoors and mandatory proprietary code
Could you explain this in a little more detail?
>>54137709
yeah but does that even exis ton linux? and I need it for d3.
>>54137724
Intel ME
Intel AMT
Intel AT
Proprietary blobs required to use the CPU without restarts longer than 30 mins
Can I just throw in any quad core in my T420, or am I limited to a particular generation?
>>54137708
I think it would be nice if other CPU architectures became more viable. In a perfect world I would love an architecture that is free and open with no patents that could be made by any company that had the resources, and could be run with no proprietary code. x86 is very ingrained though, so that would be very difficult to do.
>>54137724
http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/discussion/2016-April/010912.html
Intel Active Management is basicaly a low level complete remote control system that works all the way down at the BIOS level, and can be used while the computer is off. It is marketed as a tool for remotely controling servers, and people do use it for that, but it is in every Intel CPU newer than 2009.
If we want to go full tinfoil hat here, if the NSA/other agency were to get access to something like this, it could potentially render all encryption done on those CPUs meaningless, as the keys could be grabbed as the computer is running without the user ever knowing. This probably is not happening(yet), but the code is proprietary and hidden, so there is no way to know.
>>54137846
how would you do that?
>>54137910
Taking the current one off and putting the new one in?
>>54137846
Sandy Bridge (i7-2xxxQM) will just werk. Ivy Bridge (i7-3xxxQM) fits the socket, but won't work without coreboot or a BIOS mod. That isn't fully supported yet though, I don't think.
>>54137677
http://giocc.com/custom-bios-splash-screen-for-new-thinkpad-series.html
>>54137847
I mean, there's Power, but you've got to pay out the ass for it.
>>54137953
Same guy you're replying to.
I believe coreboot is now possible for T420's. Only recently. If I do that, I may look into Ivy's.
hi /tpg/
Does anyone have a current Lenovo corporate login? I see that there's a 10% sale running right now for new models but I want to pick up an X260 and that corporate discount is ridic
>>54138470
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/4flz40/corporate_code_expired/
NJ*CORP
I got a X201 ThinkPad but there is a white pressure mark on the LCD. How much should I pay for a new screen? Ebay? I'm in Europe btw.
>>54138505
Thanks senpai
I searched but I only saw the old thread, my b
HD+ LCD Cable just came in and I'm currently replacing the screen.
Here's an in-progress pic. More to come.
Looks fucking fantastic so far, and takes very little effort.
>>54138512
You could always pop it open and see if you can release the pressure.
>>54138517
It got changed very recently. I'll update the pastebin for the next thread.
>>54138524
I should note that this is the Alienware screen upgrade for the T420
>>54138613
>>54138524
Damn, I wish it were that easy on an X220.
>>54138527
Never heard of that... How? Spot looks like that btw.
>>54138660
Just open it up and see if there's anything behind the spot you can rearrange/remove?
>>54138675
I don't think that that is the problem. It's one of those spots that are created if there is constant pressure against the back of the LCD or something and the while stuff between the liquid crystals and the back-light gets damaged. The spot is actually invisible against a black background.
>>54138723
Ah I see. Not sure about prices in your area, but screens tend to go for $50-$100 here in burgerstan.
>>54138751
Yeah, I find them for around 70 Euro here too. Weird since the whole thing cost me 130...
>>54138792
You could always pick up a spare and have replacement parts.
>>54136165
>ThinkBrick
>>54136077
bump
Opinions about the Precision M4600?
And it's finally done: the Alienware screen swap for the T420.
Coming from a 1366x768 display, the resolution improvement is awesome. However, it's still a TN display, so the angles aren't the best.
The colors are far better than the stock version, I no longer have to use a color profile for my display to unfuck the disgusting washed-out default settings.
As for the replacement, it's about as easy as they get.
The Alienware screen is the exact same size as the stock display, so all the mounting points line up perfectly.
The only tricky part is replacing the LCD cable and then seating the replacement cable properly.
Once that's done, it's a simple plug n play replacement, no BIOS mods or any shit required. My GNU/Linux distro picked up on the change immediately and there was no configuration required.
All in all, if you can't stand the default display and have ~80-90USD (approx 130 canadian pesos, including shipping and taxes) laying around, it's a worthwhile upgrade.
Let me know if you have any questions. I'll be updating Thinkwiki soon with this.
>>54139001
Here's a second picture that's way shittier. Dynamic range on iPhones sucks.
I should also note that there is no longer any of that "screen door effect" when reading text. That was pretty bothersome on the original display.
Also, the display finally has proper blacks/dark colors.
>>54138817
>two inches tall
>weighs eight pounds
my thinkpad could beat up your thinkpad
>>54139001
No questions, but nice job mate. Looking forward to seeing your writeup on Thinkwiki.
>>54139001
>>54139027
was thinking about picking up a t420
is the screen really that bad that it needs replacing
>>54139111
Thanks, just gotta wait on an account to be created and it will be up.
>>54139115
I've used this thinkpad for 8 months (and an X220 for about a year before that) and it was fine. However, at a certain point it becomes worth it to upgrade.
For me, I wanted to be able to put more shit on my screen when programming/working, and I had a bit of money I could spend so I bit the bullet.
If you don't mind the default display (which isn't THAAAT bad) or don't have the money to replace it right away, don't do it.
>>54136165
It makes up for it's size by being ultra-functional. For instance, as a stool, or a weapon for beating off would-be muggers, or as a table for short people.
I have a t420 with Ubuntu 15.10 on it. I'm looking for something a little slimmer for business meetings. Are there any good modern lenovo laptops with good Ubuntu support?
My T520 arrived a couple days ago. It's never felt so good to fall for a meme.
Is there any way to make all the buttons and shit just werk on Arch, or will I have to set it all up with xsetkeys or something.
does anyone know how much the student discount is in the lenovo store?
>>54139793
That T520 is a qt.
>>54139868
Sure is. I dig the look of ThinkPads. It makes me mad when people talk about how "ugly" they are.
>>54139947
THEY ARE objectively ugly though
>>54139971
Don't insult my Think-fu. Just 'cause she's a little chubbier than the others doesn't mean she ins't beautiful. Macbook's may be skinny, but they're so shallow. Nothing more than brushed aluminum and rounded corners. You'll never be able to appreciate the beauty of a REAL laptop.
>>54139971
no you
>>54139676
underrated post
Overall, I think I got a pretty good deal. $325 burgers got me this with 8GiB RAM, an SSD, the 1080p screen, an i7, and the Nvidia card. Only issue with it is pic related. Really liking it, though. This thing feels hella sturdy, especially compared to my old shitty Dell Inspiron.
>>54139971
Some people don't like the Porsche 911 because the design hasn't changed radically over the years.
ThinkPad is the same.
my family
>>54140372
It's a case where you can't appeal to everyone, so you appeal to a certain group.
This fuckin casual.
>>54139027
>>54139001
model of the panel? how much was it?
>>54142317
http://www.laptopscreen.com/English/model/Dell/ALIENWARE~M14X~R2/
/g/ood evenin/g/ /g/entlemen, quick and stupid question here - is the T61p a frankenpad material just as much as the T61 is? In terms of mobo dimensions and connectivity with the 3:4 screen and other T60 parts
>>54142458
There are 14" 4:3 T61ps and their board works for the T601F, yes. Kind of rare and not really worth it, in my opinion. Intel T61 board + Advanced Dock + desktop GPU is the way to go.
Get on my Level.
Been thinking of grabbing a Helix 2 I see on eBay.
Any idea if Lenovo requires original receipt for warranty? The warranty has a start and end date I can see in Lenovo's warranty check.
>>54142675
do 14.1" Penryn T61p and 15.4" Penryn T61p have different motherboards?
This T530. Just put a 250gb Samsung SSD in it. 16gb of memory, bought an ultrabay HDD expansion which I'll put the original 500gb HDD into AND a 34mm express card 2x usb 3.0 expansion.
Gonna drop Bunsenlabs onto it methinks.
>>54142801
Nice setup.
>>54142776
Yes, only a 14" 4:3 T61/p board will work in a T601F. The board is the same size and shape as the 15" T60 board, the T60 just uses a little extension board to reach the Ultrabay and SATA bay.
Do you guys use Open or proprietary drivers on your thinkpadS?
T420 here
Hey /tpg/, I have a question for you guys.
I have a xps l502x that has a battery going on it. It has:
Quad core Sandy Bridge
8gb ram 1333 mhz
gtx 525m
500gb hard drive.
Nothing's wrong with it except for some light wear from ~5 years of use.
I can't really upgrade too much in it, but I can throw a new battery in there and maybe a SSD. Will that get this laptop going for another few years? Is it worth sinking the money into it? I know it's considerably less then a new laptop, but I'm worried about the ram being stuck at a lower speed.
Would you guys go new or go thrifty?
>>54142801
Mind linking ur usb 3.0 express card? Scarred to buy a chink one on ebay and have it not work.
>>54143139
Quad core Sandy Bridge is still a beast, I'm using an old Penryn and still get along, get an SSD in their and enjoy it for a few more years.
Is windows 7 the best choice for a T420?
inb4 linux. I'll dual boot but I play 1 game so windows is needed.
>>54142801
Been waiting 2-3 days for my t530 in mail :( first think pad
>>54143218
Windows 7 was the last version of windows that is bearable to use. I keep mine in a cage:
>>54143174
>>54142890
I use free software drivers on my x200. Once I librebooted it(which removed the wifi whitelist), I installed a wireless fidelity card that works with free as in freedom drivers.
>>54143143
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0045BLP1S/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>54142857
Thank you
>>54143229
It's a good one - the one caveat is although it's a 15inch it feels like a 17 in my arms. A little big but the specs and expansions sold me.
Should I go 16GB RAM for my T420?
What difference will it make compared to the 4GB i'm using?
>>54143474
8GiB is all you should really need, unless you like to have a lot of memory intensive programs open at once or something. If you have the cash to burn, then go with 16 gigs, but otherwise, I'd only upgrade to 8. As for the difference it would make, you won't run out of memory with 16 gigs (or likely even 8 gigs.)
>>54143474
This >>54143538 I never use over 6 (or really 4) unless im opening every image in a /wg/ thread at once.
>>54143474
depends, if your like me you pretty much need more than 8gb and given how cheap it is i dont really see any reason not to
Thinking about getting an x240/50/60
Any thoughts on which model is best? People complain about the 240's trackpad but i'm coming from a memebook so I don't mind
>>54144030
cheapest option would probably be an x240 and then just do the x250 trackpad swap.
>>54144070
Cool thanks
Now what if I don't want the trackpoint?
When are the T460 models with GPUs going to show up REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54144131
Don't use it
>>54136028
what do you guys think of this MS patent?
>pic related
Surface Thinkpad?
>>54137532
How do you customize the boot screen like that? I want to rice!!
>>54144170
custom bios
>>54144161
Looks flimsy and probably wont be replaceable.
>>54137847
If it's sending data out there's got to be a way to block that isn't there? Are you telling me that of I power down my thinkpad or disconnect it from wifi it can still magically phone home? If it's sending signals out there has to be a way to detect that and block it. Couldn't you monitor the power usage and detect spikes when it's being used?
>>54142724
Did you come on all your laptops?
>>54137971
Sweet i'm gonna try this on my x220
>>54139793
Install gentoo
>>54140015
Honestly macbooks w/ the aluminum looks kind of cheap and cliche to me at this point. Plus every other oem is using the aluminum to try to look "macbook-tier". Mac needs to step up their game, it's like they's been wearing the same outfit but still calling it fresh and revolutionary.
Just bought a t430 i5 4 gb for $199
did I do good? Its wangblows 8, gonna install some serious shit on this thing.
>>54144030
get the x250 if you can. x240 only have 1 mem slot for 4gb or 8gb.
also x250 is lighter and other good shit
>>54144347
Yeah, knockoffs and wanna-bes have kinda devalued the design a bit.
I do dig the rose and gold colors Apple started using, though.
>>54143474
honestyl 8gb is everything all you'll need. I never go over 6gb
>>54142801
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Anybody know how long until my recall battery arrives? Do they send a shipping confirmed email?
>>54142724
my level consist of the following:
x220
t420
t430
x200 tablet
t400 x 4 (2 working and 2 out of commission)
who /buyersremorse/ here?
>got a t420s
>wish I got an x220 because of ips
Why do people leave the stickers on? Is there a redpill I must swallow?
>>54144225
You do need a network connection, but if it is powered down it can in theory be started by ME. If you have a properly configured firewall/router it will probably block the needed ports, but if there are any compromised devices on your network it could theoretically be controlled from them.
>>54144558
Just get a new panel then?
>>54144570
Some people do and some people don't.. I sure as hell don't.
>>54144597
What determines if a laptop screen is compatible or not?
How does this look spec-wise? I'll throw an SSD in there later.
>Usage: programming, college junk, animu
>>54139001
Fuck that
768 IPS on X series 4 life
I don't care about resolution on a laptop. Only brightness and viewing angles. I don't use laptops all day though as my primary device
>>54145130
its a 15inch laptop so its not going to be the most portable thing in the world but it should work fine. If i was going to only have one computer i would have a T4xx laptop. If i was going T5xx i would something smaller like the x260 to carry around day to day.
>>54145421
thats a 14 inch laptop though. 1366x768 is a lot more annoying on the bigger screen than it is on x220s
>>54145435
you have a point. I keep forgetting that as I have never used anything but X line laptops
>>54144570
>muh resale value
>muh branding
I don't see any point in it. I would leave them on if I particularly cared about any of the corporations on the stickers (which I don't)
>>54145130
>new gookovo garbage for almost 1000
no thanks
>>54139793
I've used this method to get the trackpoint scrolling working
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint#Configuration_using_xinput
>>54145488
I only leave the relevant stickers on - for example I take off the "LENOVO ADVANCED EXPERIENCE" or whatever and the Windows sticker. I leave the i5 sticker on though, because i5.
I put win10 on my x200, how do I get the scroll click to work properly, and is there something i need to install for power management?
>>54146390
install gentoo
>>54144570
I wish to just remove any sighs from my laptop - simple black pads will be gorgeous.
What's the best Ultrabay hard drive caddy for a T400? I have a spare 160GB mechanical drive after replacing the main with an SSD and I use my optical drive precisely never so it would be nice to have some extra space.
I read reviews for some and people complain about an ugly LED that is on for no reason or that they aren't flush with the side panel or that they don't lock for shit and fall out.
I don't want to waste money on bullshit, help me out here /tpg/
>>54146409
I used to run xubuntu, but I want to try out windows 10 for a while
>>54146554
I went through that phase too, senpai.
Unless you want to play windumb gaymes, or absolutely need to use windows only software, use loonix.
I went from Win7 -> Win8.1 -> Ubuntu -> Xubuntu -> Mint -> Manjaro -> Win10 -> Antergos
Just keep a second partition with windows, or a virtual machine, if you should need it.
>>54144375
X250 also has only one slot.
>>54146523
they are probably all just the same exact one from china. Just get a cheap one. Its easy to cover up the led inside anyways, thats what i did with my t420's one.
>>54138036
>I believe coreboot is now possible for T420's
Sure is, just hacky as fuck, unstable, some ports not working etc.
>>54146654
I would jump on core/libreboot for my T400 in a heartbeat if it didn't mean losing access to the HD3470 inside.
The Intel iGPU is fucking garbage full stop.
>>54144570
They just dont mind how it looks or something. I think that it makes the laptop look way better though.
>>54145130
>that price
Are you not using the discount code in the OP?
Got my first meme pad as you can tell from my shitty resolution.
>>54145130
>>54147468
Discount code has changed
>>54138505
>>54138505
>>54138505
>>54142729
Warranty requires no proof of purchase. It's for the machine, not the owner. I transferred my X230 warranty into my name a few months ago.
>>54144420
I got mine next day via air mail.
>>54147684
Sweet. Should be here today then
>>54147475
1366x768 is GOAT resolution, what are you talking about, anon?
>>54147850
1366x768 is the devils resolution. Does not scale well into any other resolution and exits purely to be slightly more than 720p so manufacturers can put a bigger number on the spectsheet
I've found someone selling an EliteBook 2560p for like 200€, should I get it ? Anyone had any experience with HP's EliteBook ?
>>54147961
nobody here likes elitebooks, everyone thinks they are trash, same with dell latitudes, all of them are shit.
Wtf does lenovo send all thinkpads from china to customers? It'll take over a week to get my new thinpad, it's in shenzen or somewhere currently.
>>54142879
a 14" 4:3 T61/p
so either a 14" 4:3 T61p board or a 14" 4:3 T61 board but not any other T61p or T61 board, right? and are these two identical in all sorts of ways?
also, is the T60 donor supposed to be nothing but a 15" one?
>>54146465
and, preferably, with all keys blank
fucking american new thinkpad prices..
In Switzerland, I pay about double that murricans pay, direct from lelnovo. And that's without discounts.
>>54147961
When I was working at a charity refurbisher a while ago I dealt with quite a lot of them.
Honestly they feel pretty solid, and they look quite good from above. The trackpad feels nicer then the plasticy feeling older thinkpads. The trackpad buttons were much better then the previous 2540p's that were a fucking terrible design flaw (the rubber cover for the button would come off, but then could not go back on again meaning you had to get a new one.) The physical button light above the screen was broken on a lot of the units we received, so I guess more then a few people had run into problems with those.
Also check what the screen resolution is. If I remember correctly there were some that were 768p, some that were 900p.
200euros doesnt seem like a that good of a price though from looking on ebay.
Regarding the battery recall/replacement thing.
Has anyone gone through this process yet?
How long does it take?
Are there any more confirmation emails that its been shipped etc?
(Only did it yesterday for my batteries)
>>54147961
what specs? if it's way better specced than an t/x*20 what you could get for that price, could be worth considering. also, try looking around for a 2570p, they seem to be just a tiny price gap apart from 2560p / t/x*20, much unlike the t/x*30
>>54148582
>In Switzerland
... you have switzerland wages too
>>54148615
No justification for something that costs 1100$ in murrica suddenly costing 2000$ in Switzerland, when it's the same exact product and not even produced in Switzerland.
Swiss VAT is just 8%.
>>54148582
That's Europe in general. Reminds me of how lenovo would gyp 'strayans for years with prices double or triple murrican ones like X220ts starting at $2600 and the like
>>54148700
The thing is, Switzerland is generally not like that.
Normally, tech hardware is around the same price as in America, if you know where to look. Only for the higher-end stuff though, the low-end stuff doesn't even exist here, or is that overpriced you could just get something higher-end for the same money.
Germany for example is usually more expensive for tech than Switzerland, so is France, Italy etc.
Want to buy a new laptop and I need an advice
Is worth buy some lenovo thinkpad 420 for vidya and virtual machines ?
Suggestions ?
>Sorry for Spaniard
>>54148723
>vidya
>>>/v/ is that way.
>>54148732
So aren't thinkpad enough powerful to play dark souls 3 ?
>>54148723
T420 with 8-16GB memory is great for VMs, I still have 4GB on my laptop and run a Windows XP VM for legacy stuff.
>>54148723
honestly now though.
You're not going to play vidya on a T420 beyond shit like Hearthstone.
Works for VMs though, and pretty much anything work-y
>>54148755
>Dark Souls 3
>expecting a 4-5 year old business laptop WITH NO DEDICATED GRAPHICS CARD to run a brand spanking new AAA game
Seriously, buy a gayming laptop if you're such a faggot. Or just do the sane thing and buy a gaming desktop. You don't need to play your vidya on the go.
>>54148500
Yes.
T530 i7/Nvidia 4gb/500gb 1600x900 £250 - yay or nay /g/entoomen?
>>54149623
Didn't you ask this 2 days ago? We said yeah then and will probably say that again now.
>>54148589 >>54148615
Well, I'have contacted the seller, it comes with those specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5 2540M 2.60GHz
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1333MHz
HDD: 500GB SATA
Screen: 12,5” LED WXGA Anti-Glare (1366 x 768)
So yeah, I have been looking on ebay and I have found the same model cheaper. I will be looking for another used laptop for the same price.
>>54149623
Also, it only comes with a 65W charger... Is that enough to power an i7 & Nvidia?
>>54149686
It probably is. You can get a genuine 90w charger for like $10 on ebay anyways.
>>54149631
Yeah - but I've got it now, and am still somewhat ambivalent about whether or not to keep it. It doesn't have the webcam or fingerprint reader the description said it had, and it has an Nvidia GPU that I didn't really want, and it only came with a 65W charger. Oh and the Windows sticker says "Windows 7 Pro OA for Lenovo Singapore". So I assume this laptop has seen some mileage....
>>54149726
>webcam or fingerprint reader
The fingerprint reader is utter shit (at least on linux) and shouldnt you be covering your webcam anyways?
>windows sticker
The one on my t420 says the same thing, its just a manufacturer issued copy.
>complaining about getting better graphics
You can just switch it off in BIOS if you want.
So is Windows 7 the best Windows for a T420? driver wise on 10 I am having issues now.
>>54150089
Yes. 8.1 will work, but that fucking start menu.
Just ordered pic related for my t420s, did i fuck up? it's my only computer so having that much space is to my advantage
>>54150113
You can download shell"somthing" that gives windows 8.1 a traditional start menu.
>>54150472
You fucked up when you bought a 420s, should have bought a 420.
>>54150537
Yeah, i have it on my win10 laptop. In my opinion you shouldnt have to resort to 3rd party mods to get a paid OS to not be shit though.
I'm considering falling for this meme. Looking at the X series in particular. I want to work on developing Android apps. What specs would you recommend?
>>54150542
Nothing wrong with a T420s, it's still a very dank laptop.
>>54150542
t420s had less issues with 1080p
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=118070
>>54150472
Nah 850 evo is great. I would've gone with something smaller, but considering your situation it's not a bad choice. Have a 500gb one in my W520.
>>54150542
im fine w that, but the t420s has a 2.5 in slot so i should be able to slide it right in there right??
>>54150603
The reason it gets flak here is because it lacks the modability a t420 has along with less battery life. Its basically a big x220 in my eyes.
>>54150677
And doesn't the s have a less powerful processor?
>>54150614
I haven't had any issues with 1080p tbqh.
>>54150715
i7-2620m vs i7-2640m, not too much of a difference.
>>54150737
Still less powerful.
>>54150677
Well I think that's kinda cool for lenovo to offer a laptop for someone wants less, but a 14 inch screen and the higher res, still not my cup of tea, I'd get a T420 any day.
Any opinions on these? If money is not an option, should I just get the 260?
>>54150750
By 90 passmark score. Not enough to really matter in real world shit.
>>54146985
YOU, YES YOU
How do you sync your ipod with GNU/Linux? What program do you use? I've been trying to sync my iPhone with Banshee but it just doesn't want to work...
>>54150715
T420s is pretty much the same thing except the largest internal battery is a 6 cell that's smaller than the usual 6 cell
>>54150750
That's literally the same lineage and a step of the multiplier. You could probably find one with that processor out there. Also, shitter battery life in either case due to random issues of the i7s just being more power hungry in general despite having the same TDPs, albeit worse on the T420s because lol6cellprismatic
>>54150935
>iPhone
You cant unless you have itunes running in wine or something. Mine is rockboxed so it just mounts like any other drive. Or at least it did, now it wont show up at all for some reason...
Question for you fellow ThinkPad users:
Do you switch around the Fn and CTRL keys in the BIOS, or are you fine with using them the way they are on the keyboard?
Since all the other keyboards I've ever used in my life had CTRL at the bottom left I just had to invert them to feel comfortable.
>>54150988
By rockboxed you mean jailbroken?
I tried the Wine method in itunes and it wouldn't work for syncing
>>54150991
I have just gotten used to it.
>>54151010
No, its a whole nother OS http://www.rockbox.org/
>>54151010
rockboxing a classic ipod like that is different,
>>54150991
I just leave it. You get used to it especially since ctrl is larger. But others will of course differ
I fn+f4 and or home/end frequently and remember it as the corner
Hi /tpg/, newfag here that is considering getting a t420 for $290 and got some questions.
Can i swap the optical drive for a hdd caddy to get a second drive? if so will those generic ones from ebay work?
Anything i should ask the seller before pulling the trigger?
>>54151061
>Anything I should ask the seller?
Make sure the BIOS is unlocked. You don't want to buy it if it is password locked.
Anybody running Libreboot on a X200 here know if using 1333mhz and 1600mhz ram is possible?
>>54150991
I use Caps as Ctrl..
PLEASE HELP
Some kid knocked my t420 off my desk. It was in hibernation mode thankfully, but it hit with a hard thud. There was no damage on the outside, but now I'm getting a 2100 detection error on hdd0 when I boot up, and there's a clicking noise.
What can I do to fix this?
>>54151591
SSD
S
D
>>54151591
Beat him with the T420 and demand $$$.
>>54151591
Quick googling says its anything from a ded connector to the drive stuck in hibernation mode
>When I have had this issue it was due to the SSD being stuck in Hibernation mode. I was able to go into BIOS and change SATA to Compatibility, Save and then reboot. This would "wake" the drive back up. The PC would then BSOD due to the SATA setting. Go back into BIOS and change SATA back to AHCI and all is good.
>>54151591
Click of death, your shits gone for good
>>54151591
make the kid's mom pay you $ or in other ways!
did anyone smoke a blunt in front of their t420 yesterday as yesterday was 4/20?
>>54151591
>falling for the t420 meme
when taxes are back im thinking of getting a TP for pen testing. what model is a good mix between power and battery life is preferred. also cheaper the better. could hunt on CL
>>54144558
the X220 IPS aint that great.
i have the tablet variant, which guarantees IPS 100% (theres no x220 tablets with TN) and the image retention its pretty bad.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0lIGHhojrQG
Hard drive noise.
Guess its finally time to upgrade the hard drive like I had been planning.
Is there any way to recover it? Any known facts or tricks to fix a clicking drive?
>>54151591
>shitgate/toshita hdds
what a surprise, it broke ;---DDD
I bet you had APS disabled, stupid nigger.
HDD is fucked. Get SSD as an replacement. Restore data from your backup.
If you don't have a backup you're retarded. You could've just used an always inserted SD card or 2nd HDD caddy with 1TB HDD just for backup purposes.
>>54151849
Didn't know about APS. Bought it used and only loaded the necessary drivers.
But now I know that it exists. I'm too cheap for ssd because small storage, so I'm going to finally invest in the 1tb I had been wanting to get, I assume APS will keep it safe.
Same anon with fucked up t420.
Can I get a pcie ssd and use it for the OS? That would be a reassuring way to use the empty space on the side without having to worry about another HDD failure losing my OS.
>>54149726
my X220 says "Lenovo singapore" and it was purchased new on USA
>>54151974
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TGIVRYU/ref=twister_B00U2G8PUO?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I have the 250gb one in my dankmeme. Works really nice.
>>54151949
>too cheap for ssd
what.
Damn, I just got the E6400 I ordered, and the build of this machine is just fucking phenomenal. It even beats Thinkpads by a mile. REMOVE ONE SCREW, HAVE ACCESS TO EVERYTHING.
Repasting was as simple as unscrewing the heatsink and screwing it back in, I didn't even need to unplug it.
Everything fits together so beautifully. And the performance is great for its age too.
Doesn't even turn on the fans with browsing/text editing.
Completely silent coding machine.
>>54152033
Can I use it as my main OS drive?
>>54152096
Glad you like it, they're good little machines.
>>54152118
Yes. That is what I'm doing. I have everything but Documants, Downloads, Pictures etc on the SSD and the hdd is just mounted on it (uncreatively at /hdd) It also as /tmp and swap on it. Quite easy to setup with xubuntu.
>>54150935
iOS devices past 6.1 cannot be sync anymore. limitations of the library. imobiledevice.
i have no issues tho. i have a jailbroken device with PwnTunes (got the license for free in a raffle) and it mounts the /mobile folder the device as MTP so i can transfer music to it.
for you, unless you can jailbreak, theres no other alternative than using a VM, i believe the mobilesupport component of itunes (the one that talks with the device) doesnt work well on wine.
>>54152181
>Linux
Wew lad. I'm running windows 7 on mine because college requirements.
>>54152228
Eh, sorry then. I have no idea how to properly set up windows on a SSD.
>>54152129
Hmm, the fan seems to keep spinning at a certain level once it ramped up - at least for quite long. CPU temps dropped to like 35°c and it still spun, and just now stabilized
Any fixes?
>>54152868
Try updating your BIOS to the latest A34 revision from Dell, my fan shuts off once the laptop cools.
>>54152891
I'm on A34 too, and it seems to stop spinning after a while, but for longer than necessary, which is weird. Welp, I'll see if the problem persists.
Anyways, can I somehow control charge thresholds like with thinkpads?
>>54152958
I agree that it does take longer than it should to shut the fan off, mine is like that, Dell does have control point software on windows, but I've never used it, I think it's got some power management stuff.
What is a good business laptop for virtualization? I need to run some VM's for hax0r competitions and my x140e is sortof lacking in the power department...
Ideally 13 inch, not incredibly heavy, dedicated graphics preferred but not needed I suppose.
thank you friends :3
>>54153060
welp, not really a problem though.
Holy fuck, this is better than I expected. It can do anything I do on pcs except games flawlessly.
I wonder why I even have an x230 tablet now.
>>54153195
Same here, the only PC games I play are Halo CE and San Andreas, and my E6400 with the quadro handles those fine.
>t420
>1tb for animu and games
>ssd for windows 7 and school stuff
Did I do good?
>>54153793
Yes, I always forget how cheap 1tb lappy drives are these days.
So which Ubuntu flavor you niggas be installin?
MSI ge60 apache pro or thinkpad x201t
What to chose?
in reference to the anon who upgraded his t420 screen, would that have a particularly large impact on battery?
picked up a t420 off eBay last week for $140. i5/2430 w/on board graphics.
how'd i do boys.
>>54146985
nice proprietary connector.
living the free life eh?
>>54153793
jesus christ
>$85 for a 1tb 5400rpm
you can just get one of those portable 2tb seagate hdds for $80
take apart the enclosure there'll be a 9.5mm-height samsung m9t inside
>no-name brand ssd
its like you dont value your data at all
>>54153238
Really, I didn't know the Dell memes were that strong. Are the new latitudes still that well constructed?
>>54154894
I'm assuming they are, they still use magnesium, they just changed their design a bit.
>>54154925
There's no more 6000 series? Are the 7000 series the new ones or what? I know the 5000 series are the Thinkpad Es of Dells, so they're shit.
>>54154957
They have the 3000 series for the low end, the 5000 series for the mainstream (like the E6400), and 7000 series for the high end.
>>54154977
I'm just browsing through all of them.. Do none of them have a pointing stick anymore? It's something I really need in a laptop.
Hi /tpg/. I need a new laptop for uni next year as wondering what you guys recommend? My budget is around $1.5k and I need to get something that will last me the next 4 years.
>>54154957
>5000 series are the Thinkpad Es of Dells, so they're shit.
New 5000 series replaces the old 6000 series but contains 6000 series features.
>>54140359
May it serve you well.
I fell for the glorious meme two months ago and got a T510 with a nearly identical crack in the same place.
The interesting thing that I've come to find was that it could easily be broken by improper or forceful palmrest removal attempt. It needn't be a fall damage scar...
Now that I've got an SSD-packed workhorse that I'm satisfied with, I'm keen on getting a smaller ThinkPad like X-something for portability and learning linux
>>54154990
I'll be damned, Dell removed the pointing stick on their Latitudes. I suggest an E6450 if you want a modern one with a pointing stick.
>>54154999
oh yeah cool, I can see that. E5450 sure looks tasty, and they'd even have a sale for it atm.
Sadly not looking to get a brand-spanking new one atm.
>>54155074
>Dell takes the XPS 13
>Puts latitude features in to it
hnnnng
Just researched two interesting offers:
-X201 187€
-X220 199€
What's the best objetively? I mean who i can rice to the maximum? Or who support more ram,can libreboot it...
