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Apple haters will try to defend this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnapaZYD2cU
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>after u chopped the vid on the macbook 12 did you cook a turkey on it LMAO
roasted
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>>54135831
And yet he destroyed Linus
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>>54135861
its a video of a video
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>>54135861
indeed
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Why should I bother buying a "better" laptop when the Macbook decimates it?
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>>54135893
decimates atoms and creates a nuclear explosion from the heat or?
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I mean the objectively better Wincucks laptop got btfo by the underpowered piece of shit Fagbook.
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Why would anyone want to edit on such a tiny screen. If you really want to be a macfag they have a 5k display.
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>>54136029
>implying the macbook can't output to larger displays
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>>54136240
Enjoy all of your adapters
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>>54135808
I don't watch videos by assholes who won't show their face.
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>>54136403
Enjoy having a heavier, higher speced machine that performs worse
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>mactoddlers unironically defend macshit
>mactoddlers unironically defend core m
>mactoddlers unironically defend throttlebooks
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>>54136505
>running windicks on a macbook
>ignoring the video evidence
classic /g/
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>>54135808

>12 inch laptop
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BTFO BY PAJEET
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>>54136454
>implying
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thinking of buying a new high end laptop... macbook pro is definitely an option, but i've never worked with OSX and i'm not sure i'll like it. does it make sense to buy a MBP just to run windows 10 botnet edition on it?
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>>54136642
The video doesn't actually shill the hardware that much. It more emphasizes just how well Apple has optimized their software. This is very clearly seen in how much better the significantly weaker hardware performs on similar tasks.
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A macbook pro is really overpriced? It seems like a really good hardware, 1900 for a good battery, 4k display, sdd, i7 and dedicated graphics, doesn't seems to bad.
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>>54137388
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel themselves has admitted it's utter shit now and has trashed the design to go back to copying 90's era laptops with solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>ultra shit tier zero travel chiclet keyboard
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 70WHr battery matches it in battery life
>gets BTFO by 40WHhr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters
>overheats at the slightest task because abysmal crippled cooling system
>throttles to 800mhz because of chronic overheating problems
>retina meme supposedly for "pros" have have <70% sRGB
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling

>good hardware
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>>54136403
You have room for a second screen but not for an adaptor?
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>>54136642
The question was can you edit 4k on an ultra portable not, can you edit 4k on an ultra portable WITH premiere
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>>54137249
You'll get used to it, there are tools for Windows management you can download. Hotkeys are simple and enabling hot corners is a must.
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>>54135808
so premiere is slow? no surprise there.
what's his encoding bitrate? I can make a 4k video in seconds on a mobile Pentium from 10 years ago, but at a shitty bitrate.
this has nothing to do with hardware or OS, but everything to do with software used. stop trying to spark OS wars
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>>54137249
I used windows for many years, then got an MBP back in like 2007/8. Last notebook I bought was Windows though. Cost less, and they're usually easier to work on if anything breaks.
I got used to OSX pretty quick.
If you have any computer know how, you'll figure it out.
I'd only run Windows on it if you absolutely need it. I tend to believe in using things with what came with them. If I need something from another OS, I'll just run a VM, or you could always dual-boot.
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>>54137484
he's talking about the mb pro not the throttlebok 2016, familia
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>>54137486
No. I'm the typical macfag who can just afford to buy a Macbook to sperg about how cool it is in the internet. I don't have money for anything else, because McDonald's doesn't pay enough.
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>>54135808
>advertising for some garbage youtube channel

fuck off
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>god tier screen
>god tier looks
>god tier trackpad
>god tier batter lfe
>ultra thin and light
>btfo the competition on perfomance


This makes me want the 2016 refresh even more now. And I cant afford it. Thanks OP
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>>54138927
>>shit tier screen
>>shit tier looks
>>shit tier trackpad
>>shit tier batter lfe
>>not even thinnest and lightest
>>btfo by the competition on perfomance

Fixed.
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>>54138988
'Its shit'

- /g/
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>>54139121
"It's good"

-Schiller
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>>54136454
final cut just takes advantage of some hardware acceleration in the cpu (i forgot what it's called) and obviously whatever setup linus is using doesn't
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>>54139313
>I dislike apple because cool kids use it in my school
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>>54136642
So another reason to switch? Software is better optmized on mac?
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>>54139611
So you admit the Apple product is better
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>>54140926
final cut pro is better optimized than whatever dumbass setup linus is using
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>>54135808
>video editing

kys
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Windows is nothing more than a poorfag's alternative to barely do some work and for vydia manchildren.
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>Using lagbook """""""pro"""""""
How's the weather in SF ?
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>>54141083
>but i can't play muh vydia
Grow up /v.
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>>54141114
I never said anything about games.
Projecting much?
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I'm loving all of the damage control from the winfags here
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>>54136642
>>54137515
he should do that just to control for variables. We all want to know why it happened the way it did.
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>>54141179
When their OS can't compete in productivity and performance they have to go full damage control.
Windows only survives because of low budget devices and the the vydia market.
There is no real reason to use such poorly made OS outside a VM.
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>>54141268
I agree 100%

>>54141231
The point is to show just how much better Apple is across the board. They can write their professional software to perform better on worse hardware than a competitor's software on better hardware. With that differential there is no real reason to not use an Apple machine over the alternatives.
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>>54136642
what he should have done was wipe both machines, then test both machines with the exact same software setups afterward, both running windows then with both running osx and their respective video editing suites. that's the only fair way to conduct such a comparison.
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>>54141487
worse hardware, but for nearly the same cost. that evens it out pretty hard. It's cool, but the shilling is really real.
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>>54141268
>There is no real reason to use such poorly made OS outside a VM.
Games, do you speak that motherfucking language? The language of PC buyers? Gaming, you fuck.
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Pretty simple. Premiere doesn't have Mercury Playback Engine (HW acceleration) for Intel IGP except maybe a few thing. And since no one professionally does any serious editing on a IGP they aren't bothering. Apples (literally) to oranges.
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>>54141681
how old are you?
I stopped caring about video games when I was 18 and it was probably too late already
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>>54141681
>pc gaming
Just buy a fucking console, it'll last longer and games will actually work for the most part

>>54141552
However you gain access to the far superior Apple software
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>>54141681
>[TRIGGERED]
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>>54141268
active directory
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>>54141797
>wage cuck
Finish that spreadsheet Ricardo.
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>>54141706
>worst filesystem, even worse than NTFS
>ancient kernel held together by spit
>terrible power efficiency, somehow worse than Linux with community drivers, and the real reason why they add MOAR mAH

>superior software
But yeah, those animations are so cool.
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>>54141842
I'm not sure what animations you're talking about in Final Cut. Want to go ahead and explain to me how the filesystem is worse than NTFS? It blows FAT out of the fucking water. What kernel problems have you ever had? I'm starting to think you've never actually used OS X and are just a butthurt wincuck.
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>>54141684
This. Even the iPhone SE can edit 2 streams of 4K thanks to hardware acceleration. But doesn't mean anybody should. Get a real workstation to do this type of video editing. Final Cut might be fast but it lacks so many features, making your end videos look like amateur youtube garbage.
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Literally no one in the know uses Final Cut. It's laughed at by every video editor in the industry. Premier isn't even considered that great either and most pros use shit like AVID.
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>>54141944
Editors still use FCP7.
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>>54141893
i love hfs!
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>>54141976
No they don't retard.
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>>54141995
You must not know many editors.
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>>54141976
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
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>>54141944

True avid and da vinci seem to be the industry standards these days

Premiere and final cut are not used for anything serious. Student documentaries and low budget commercials.
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>>54141980
install ZFS
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>>54141893
Hfs+ has file transfer issues on a regular basis, something ntfs doesn't. Not even going to compare it to ext4.

The kernel itself is outdated and unoptimized, it works and that's all. They added very little on top of Mach 2, it's essentially a compatibility layer. Windows gets better battery life on a macbook than os x, which is designed for that specific hardware. That's how shitty the kernel is.

I understand that you don't know this from daily usage, because that's all OS X is tolerable for: daily browsing, webdev, irrelevant shit like that. No critical system, no server cluster, nothing where things actually have to work flawlessly for months on end has ever or will ever run OS X. Linux will reign supreme here.
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>>54141976

Fc7 barely supports anything modern.
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>>54142069
It supports ProRes and DNxHD which is what pretty much everything gets transcoded to anyway.
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>>54136642
On Pajeet's profile you can see his 200 Windows 10 videos. This is the average Windows shill, a Pajeet.
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>>54142068
When did anyone here advocate using OS X for running a server? This thread is literally about the Macbook, video editing software, and to some extent day to day use of the OS. Literally no one was talking about running a server with it until you did just now.
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>>54137388
Nowadays it's overpriced because of the fact it has old gen cpus.
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>>54142260
And that's why OSX will never be taken seriously by anyone knowledgeable about computers.
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>>54142068
>windows gets better battery life on a macbook


What the hell are you smoking? Must be some strong stuff
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>>54142300
Yeah, he is just blatantly wrong here

>>54142297
>OSX will never be taken seriously because it isn't used to run a server

Are you fucking serious m8?
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>>54142095

I meant the modern hardware and os as well. I can't imagine it being able to handle 4k with colour correction and filters without crashing. It was already struggling when I was editing a 10 minute short a couple of years back.
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>>54142406
Granted most of the people I know that use it are still using the cheese graters. I know one person who is a working editor that has it on their 2015 MBP with 10.11 and haven't heard complaints.
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>>54141980

I have never, _ever_ had a problem with HFS+. I think the issues are wayy overblown
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>>54142549
this
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Why do indians like windows so much? They make me want to switch to Mac just so I'm not associated with them in any way
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>>54142599
Because it's easier to scam people over the phone with a false antivirus.
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>>54142447

Yeah fc7 is mostly for old geezers who don't really do anything outside of color correction and stitching scenes together.>>54142549
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>>54142549

Simple file transfers make the whole os bog down no matter the hardware. Yeah please tell me hfs is not related in any way.
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What do you guys think will happen to the MacBook Air in the close future?

Will it get Retina Display?
Will the entire line be replaced by Core-M Facebook Machine?
Will they make a 15 inch Air and discontinue the 11 inch?

Would it be wise to get an 11 inch in about a year/year and a half for entertainment purposes only and as a secondary computer?
If it was an entry model with only 4gb Ram, how would it perform while working on Final Cut Pro for 1080p video in a situation where you can't use your main editing machine?
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>>54142599
Bill gates foundation probably donated a couple of toilets to India now they have an internet defense force
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>>54142689

Well see it's interesting because I've never ever had that experience of the "OS being bogged down" while doing file transfers. So if we're going anecdotal evidence vs anecdotal evidence, this is my contribution
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>>54142698

My thoughts? It'll be phased out like the spinning disk Macbook Pro. The retina Macbook is its logical successor
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>>54142704
kek
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I wish there would be more devices with true tone displays.
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>>54135808
Laptops are shit no matter how you try to twist it.
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>>54143084
Hello my child. Don't you have school tomorrow? Stop playing video games and go to bed
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>>54143084
I'm sitting comfortably on the couch surrounded by my family. How about you?
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>>54143105

I woke up early to be ready for church, I've checked my projects on PC and browsed /g/ for a while.

Soon I will leave.
YOu know the basic stuff, trying to be functional member of society and not just a consumer.
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>>54135808
>Final Cut is better than Premiere when retards export video
What a surprise anon.
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>>54143084
>twists laptops
>complains
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>>54143084
You haven't used a fanless one yet. No matter how you try to twist it.
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>>54141980
>problems with HFS
>Samsung 840 SSD

is the firmware up to date? have you been doing stupid testing on it?
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>>54143104
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-5557U-vs-Intel-Core-i3-6100/m27386vs3511

Cheapest non pentium processor from skylake generation: price 100$

Better than the best processor used on latest macbook pro.

That macbook also costs you about 1800 usd... if this isn't a test for retards tell me.
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>>54143167
K. but I don't give a fuck about muh CPU benchmarks

The one I have works flawlessly for everything I do. I'm not a gamer kid.

I want a light and solid device that takes my files and all my work anywhere in my house, in my universitity campus or wherever i'm going. A fixed computer is literally useless to me.
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What about Apple Maps?
https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/attending/
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>>54143162
its not the ssds fault.

and it isnt limited to that drive either. but when you actually use a 'pro' laptop for real work, you see what it can really handle
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>>54135893
Fuck you. Asus UX305. Same specs, lower price.

inb4
>muh OSX
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>>54143537
Mac = not poor, read: HFS only on one disk, FAT on second drive you need to buy first.

No wonder you are a nigger with your nigger fat partition you nigger.
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>>54143518
>Apple Maps
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>>54135808
Did he even have GPU acceleration enabled for the test on the non mac?
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>>54143740
I mean it's Linus so probably not, but who knows. That doesn't change the fact that the non mac still had significantly higher specs.
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>>54143554
It's a shit macbook rip-off
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>>54141944
This movie was edited completely in Final Cut Pro X. There are a number of others, but this one came to my mind.
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2381941/?ref_=nv_sr_1
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>>54143950
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2381941/?ref_=nv_sr_1
wincucks btfo once again
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>>54142052
Deadpool was done in Premiere. Not everyone falls for the Avid jew.
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>>54144413
yeah idk where this avid meme came from
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So basically he proved Final Cut Pro is complete ass?
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>>54144477
he proved the opposite, did you even watch the video?
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>>54144489
whoops, mistyped
So basically he proved Premier Pro is complete ass?*
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>>54144501
yeah, apple optimizes way better
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>>54144513
I mean, is anyone surprised that Adobe can't write well-built software? We've kind of known this for years.
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>>54142052
Avid is garbage.

Davinci is great at color grading and just OK at editing. We'll see if that gets better.

Final Cut is babbys first NLE.

Premiere is the only reasonable choice.
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>>54141893
>OSX requires to be installed on a case-insensitive FS to work properly.
>awful encoding of filenames with diacritics

Even NTFS is case-sensitive and stores filenames properly.
(Win32 doesn't support case-sensitivity for compatibility reasons but the FS support is there.
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>>54144729
The only big problem with NTFS is the allocator. It priorizes making the files contiguous to reduce seek times rather than leaving free space between files to prevent fragmentation.
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>>54144563
Final cut destroys premiere
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>>54145547
>final meme
>destroy anything

lmao
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All this poorfag defending their horrible purchasing decisions, how glorious.

Although no real surprises here, anybody should've known that there are no viable Windows laptops at any size or price point.
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>>54142549

It can't timestamp to nanosecond accuracy. Modern computers can do millions of actions in a nanosecond, this is not acceptable.

No concurrent access, only one process at a time can access the filesystem.

There is only ONE copy of the catalog file, the catalog file contains all the information about files and directories on the disk, if this file gets fucked up by anything your entire volume is hosed.

Its fucking awful, kudos to Apple for teaching it new tricks and keeping it alive as long as it has, but fuck they desperately need a new filesystem.
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I hate that jonathan morrison faggot, he's such a fucking normie
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>>54145682
>>>/r9k/
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>>54145688
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>>54135808
I-is this real? I am the first to laugh about idiots who buy Windows laptops but how the fuck do they manage to be so much slower than Core M from 2015? It's technically impressive to bloat your hardware this bad.
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>>54145674
A new FS has been one of my hopes for awhile, but much like Microsoft, Apple is more interested in adding "features" normies care about than anything power users request. It's a lot easier to make siri web search available on osx than it is to do something meaningful.

>>54145547
You literally have no idea what you're talking about.
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>buying the cheap chink shit macbook instead of the superb 1800$ surface pro
lol poorfags
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>>54141684
Exactly. Any serious user, that actually needs 4k would be using something with a discrete gfx card. Cuda/open cl acceleration will be better than igp acceleration desu senpai
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>>54142698
Don't edit on a laptop. I was for years, got a desktop and feels gud man
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>>54143148
>>54145547
What about dynamic link? What about no batshit stupid clip converting in the background, what about having to buy a lut plugin. Go for it anon, eat the shit out of your hands.
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>>54148766
But the wincuck laptop in the demo had a discrete gpu
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>>54148746
>paying more money for an inferior device
Mommy most be proud of you.

>>54148787
Obviously a desktop is better but for something shorter than full length movies even a passive cooled Macbook seems to do a great job.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P5UWEKSUXo
Premiere a shit
FCPX 4eva
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>>54149026
prouder than yours ever been :^)
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>>54149360
She must really have low expectations then.
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>>54148787
>in a situation where you can't use your main editing machine

Learn to read.
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>>54135808
>buying anything other than a chomrebook
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>>54150251
Fuck off with your low resolution trash, no SSD, ugly laptop that can't even run Office.
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>>54150251
Ugh

Google cucks are so much worst than Apple cucks
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>>54150680
Google cucks are awful
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>>54149203
wow,, adobe really needs to get their shit together. Same goes for chrome/firefox vs. edge/IE regarding video playback in windows.
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FCP also is 2x cheaper
so if you want to save money and time go apple
apple is for poorfags
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>>54151613
holy shit the windicks circlejerk has finally come full circle
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>>54136642
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>>54143801
Who cares if it's a ripoff it's not about who comes out first, it's about who does it better.
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>>54154731
> it's about who does it better
Lighter, better battery life, much better trackpad. Macbook it is then.

And yeah, obviously OSX.
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>>54137249
Even as a Windows laptop they're a fantastic option.

That said, OS X is really fantastic - I'd be surprised if you didn't like it.
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>>54154959
>Even as a Windows laptop they're a fantastic option.
Meh, there is quite a battery life penalty and the trackpad loses its awesomeness and becomes just "good". Also the fan gets much more active.

OSX takes a while to get used, specially if you come from Windows and not Linux but it's totally worth it.
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>>54135808
>editing on a glossy screen

kek
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>>54154799
>lists some parts that are subjective
>say operating system
I think this proves my point nicely, thanks for the help.
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>>54154678
saved
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>>54155016
>weight and battery life are subjective
>OSX touch gestures aren't obviously better
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>>54155049
ignore the winfags
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Core M.

No USB port.
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>>54155049
>touch gestures
Holy fuck. Kill yourself.

>weight and battery life are better
At the cost of using a Core M processor lol.
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>>54155116
>Holy fuck. Kill yourself.
>getting this mad over superior input device

>At the cost of using a Core M processor lol.
Just like the Asus UX305?

>>54155088
They are too amusing for that.
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>>54155180
>mad
Hello, newfriend. That's basically good morning, faggot.

>This other laptop has this shit processor, so I'll pay $1200 for Apple to give me the same thing with less features! B-because t-touch gestures.
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>>54155245
>to give me the same thing
It weights less and lasts longer. Besides after a fast search, I found the Asus starting at €849 with slower CPU and half the size of the SSD, which is slower again. (Retina Macbook is €1449 on Apples site, and 2015 version for just €1199)

>less feature
>B-because t-touch gestures
How is a massively better trackpad not a feature?
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>>54155395
>weighs less and lasts longer
And nukes anything it sits on.

>after I googled once, I found a laptop for 350-700 less yuropoors with less specs so hah!
Retard. I never said any laptop is better, Christ.

>t-touch gestures
Seriously blow your own brains out. If you're using this as a facebook machine, sure. Enjoy using a trackpad like a retard.
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>>54155507
Yet the absolute hottest point after stress test is 49.4 °C on the small spot at the bottom, very nuke-y. In normal use it won't even reach 35°

>Retard. I never said any laptop is better, Christ.
>HURR DURR IT'S SHIT BUT I CAN'T NAME ANYTHING COMPARABLE

>Enjoy using a trackpad like a retard.
>he never uses trackpad on his laptop
Tell us more about your l33t haxX0r sk31z, m7+1
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Macs are best
End of discussion
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>>54155116
but that core M processor just btfo the i7
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I d kill for a black matte macbook pro with retina diaplay the black and silver is getting old ad
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>>54155592
Sure, it did, kid.

>>54155576
>in normal use
>read: Facebook machine
Damn. Can I send emails on this $1200 computer too?

>I CAN'T NAME ANYTHING COMPARABLE
What? You want a better processor? You can literally buy a chinkpad with a better keyboard, toss in a 500GB SSD with better read/write speeds and 8GB of ram with a longer battery life depending on use for under $400 at most.

Granted, the screen won't be as nice as the retina display, and you won't have your fucking touch gestures lmao.

>he never uses the trackpad
I don't. Because I'm not a disabled child. You don't need to spell in l33t speak to not be disabled though.

Enjoy your pinch to zoom instead of just pressing a hot key with more control lol
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>>54156150
>in normal use
>read: Facebook machine
If your normal use is FB, sure.

>You want a better processor?
Holy shit, you can name a better processor than the powerhouse that's the core M, impressive!

Now control your autism for a second and name an entire laptop that's comparable and better. A chinkpad with a shit screen, 3x the size and 2x the weight isn't by the way.

> just pressing a hot key with more control
>predefined zoom of a hotkey offers more control
Looks like you lied about your lack of disability.
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>>54156382
>If your normal use is FB
That's the only use that a core M processor is okay at.

>impressive!
I know! Imagine if Apple could name one too!

>that's comparable and better
I did.

>shit screen
Yep, the only drawback really. I'd prefer a shittier screen over a cellphone processor and

>3x the size
Uh, 12 inches is not 3x bigger than 12 inches.

>2x the weight
Latest Air is 2.5 lbs according to Google. X220 weighs is 3.5 lbs. This is improved when you upgrade the SSD to about 3.2 pounds. I know macfaggots are beta numales who can't lift that much, so I see your problem. It explains your emphasis on WEIGHT on a fucking computer.

>predfined zoom of a hotkey offers more control
It does, and it's quicker than fingering your laptop like a retard. Not to mention a nipple is way more accurate and faster.

But hey, enjoy pressing your two index fingers together like a five year old.

So let's recap: better processor, better SSD, bigger SSD, capable of fitting two SSD's, better keyboard, trackpoint, SD card slot, more than one USB port, HDMI port

Drawbacks: worse screen, weight, t-touch g-gestures
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>>54156834
Reminder that this isn't remotely at the same price point. I'm talking about a laptop with upgades that would cost around $200, but if you are retarded can end up MAYBE $300, versus a $1200 Macbook.
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>>54156834
>That's the only use that a core M processor is okay at.
It's like you missed OP.

>I did.
How exactly is heavier, bigger and shit screen "comparable"? Might as well go full retard and suggest some Alienware. It's faster!

>It explains your emphasis on WEIGHT on a fucking computer.
I know right, who gives a fuck about the weight of a portable computer. It's not like you're going to transport it everywhere.

>Not to mention a nipple is way more accurate and faster.
http://www.yorku.ca/mack/CHI01.htm

There are more studies which shouldn't be too hard to find for trackpad-less haxxor like you.

>better SSD
Better than NVMe? Oh man, the worst part is that you probably really believe it.

>bigger SSD
You can get 512gb if you need it that much, any more is unlikely to be useful on a ultraportable in the first place.

>capable of fitting two SSD's
Great but why?

>better keyboard
Not really, no.

>trackpoint
Aye, quite a downside.

>SD card slot
Awesome. Does it come with a floppy drive too?

>more than one USB port
But outdated shit.

>HDMI port
Somewhat of a plus which can be done with adapters if you happen to need it.

>Drawbacks: worse screen
Which makes the rest irrelevant.

>remotely at the same price point
Well, obviously fat shit with shit screen is cheaper. Not really relevant unless you're on welfare though.
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>>54148813
I said for retards. Normal people use Premiere and shitheads doing 4K video of stupid crap that gets upload to vimeo for their hipster friends to watch gets cut with Final Cut.
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>>54157078
>editing video is normal use
>implying you should be video editing on a 12 inch screen
Full retard.

>heavier, bigger, and shit screen comparable
How is exactly is smaller space, slower reads, slower processing, less cores, no AV ports, and a single USB port comparable? These aren't even technical aspects of the computer.

>who gives a fuck about the weight of a computer
If you can't handle 0.7 lbs, you're a little bitch, dude. You're lying to yourself to make it seem like this is actually a big difference.

>There are more studies which shouldn't be too hard to find
Apparently they are for you, and so is a dictionary or google. A trackpoint is not a trackball or joystick. Not to mention this study just blind tested random users, not people proficient with each method.

>better than NVMe?
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7004662?start=0&tstart=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA0ChJVIHak

Yes, faster than 140-400 mb/s.

>You can get 512 GB if you need it that much
At $1800 lmao

>Why would I want to store things on my personal, portable computer?

>Not really, no
Yes, really. Yes.

>I don't have a phone with expandable memory or use any cameras
LOOOOOOOL

>USB 3.0
>outdated

>I'll j-just buy a-adapters
You paid $1200 for a computer and can't even connect it to a screen LMAO

>Well, obviously, my $1200 laptpo shouldn't have more storage, better CPU, faster read and transfer abilities, more ports, and a better keyboard than a $200 chinkshit
D E L U S I O N A L
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>>54157372
>MUH CORE M IS SO WEAK, WHO CARES IT CAN EDIT 4K VIDEO, TEH SCREEN IS TOO SMALL

>smaller space
>slower processing
It has enough space and performance for all sensible tasks one would do with it. More is nice but will be hardly noticeable.

>slower reads
>less cores
Negro what?

>no AV ports
D-do you have a time machine, anon? This isn't 1996.

>single USB port
USB C vs USB 2.0

>A trackpoint is not a trackball or joystick.
It's considered a joystick in the review but reading is hard, eh.

>this study just blind tested random users, not people proficient with each method
Which is what you need for objectivity, nobody cares about fanboys.

>better than NVMe?
>muh handpicked results
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/04/the-2015-macbook-previews-a-future-thats-not-quite-here/5/#h3
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-12-Early-2015-1-1-GHz-Review.143178.0.html

Just two objective reviews, show it around 750/500 with Yosemite, which was pretty shit.

>At $1800 lmao
Holy shit, entire 1800 bucks! You could buy so many shitty Chinkpads for it ... maybe they could fuse their power and be less shit?

>Why would I want to store things on my personal, portable computer?
>I need to store my entire 4K chine cartoon collection and 1TB of FLACs on a computer used for traveling

>Yes, really. Yes.
Again your fanboism talking. The reviews range from "good" to "awesome".

>phone with expandable memory
>2011+5
Nice one.

>cameras
>without wifi
Another nice one.

>You paid $1200 for a computer and can't even connect it to a screen LMAO
At least it has one usable one from start. Also how does connecting X220 to 4K screen work?

>D E L U S I O N A L
P O O R
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I've tried before to start meaningful video editing discussion on /g/, and lo and behold the one time a thread gets more than 10 replies it's the same battle lines - fanboy defense of apple and microsoft.

How many people here are actually professional editors? By professional I mean you do this for a living, either television or a substantive youtube channel.

And how many of you use Avid? I would really love to hear a reasoned, well-articulated argument for why Avid is, in your opinion, the NLE to beat. If you are over 40, please note that "because I've been using it forever" is not a valid argument.
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>>54157763
What made you think that a thread with Apple in title and video of Core M Macbook editing 4K video faster than a technically more powerful Windows device would be about video editing?
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>>54157926
I'm sorry, is a video editing technology thread not for video editing software discussion? My mistake sir, please accept the mildly relevant image I've included with my post as penance.

It is true though, /g/ is just for shitposting now.
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>>54155014
idiot
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>>54157698
>it's enough for facebook(tm)
>300GBs and three times faster processing is hardly noticeable
lmao @ u

>doesn't know an HDMI is an audio/video connection

>USB C vs USB 2.0
More like a single USB C vs 2 USB 3.0 ports.

By the way: The USB 3.1 standard does not offer any performance advantages in this case, because the Core M-based MacBook only transfers files with the maximum USB 3.0 performance of 5 Gbps

>considered a joystick in the review
Nope.

>reading is hard, eh
For niggers like you apparently. It tested with a desk stick from some random pad, which is not a trackpoint. It is quite literally a joystick.

>which is what you need for objectivity
No, it isn't. Retarded normalfags would be more proficient at video editing with something like Windows Movie Maker than a real professional suite.

>handpicked results
You mean actual out-in-the-field reports rather than journalists

>Holy shit, I paid an entire $600 for 300GBs!!
I know, only a retard would do that!

>I don't' need t store anything on my computer because of the cloud, dood.

>transferring data over wifi
>depending on Apple's cheap wireless adapter
>We did not manage more than 70 Mbps in an 802.11n network (2.4 GHz) even in a very good test environment – the 802.11ac mode was almost unusable with less than 5 Mbps

>how does connecting X220 to a 4K screen work
About as well as connecting a fagbook to one with that integrated graphics card.
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laptop mbp
desktop anything other than mac

it's not hard
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>>54158160
>300GBs
So almost twice as slow.

>three times faster processing
You mean 20-30% faster CPU but with 50% slower GPU.

>More like a single USB C vs 2 USB 3.0 ports.
How much would be a PCI card that doesn't gimp the speed? Most Google results show 60MB/s

So how well does USB 3.0 transfer power?

>It tested with a desk stick from some random pad, which is not a trackpoint.
It's also tested with a random trackpad, not the Apple one. It doesn't take a genius to see the physical limitations of the clitmouse and if that and studies are not enough for you, there is also the word of the market. Trackpoints are barely used these days ... it's like they are shit nobody wants.

> Retarded normalfags would be more proficient at video editing with something like Windows Movie Maker than a real professional suite.
Muh apples and oranges.

>You mean actual out-in-the-field reports rather than journalists
>one user with issues
>out-in-the-field reports
Fascinating.

>I know, only a retard would do that!
Dear baby Jesus, better SSD costs a bit more money! WE SHALL ALL STARVE BECAUSE OF 300 BUCKS.

>I don't' need t store anything on my computer because of the cloud, dood.
Alright, do tell how you would use extra 512 or 1TB on a mobile device for work. You was quite outspoken against editing 4K video; it's certainly not optimal to play modern vidya. What other huge files do you need to carry around 24/7?

> 802.11n
You really got a time machine, don't ya?

>that integrated graphics card
Which is 50% better than HD 3000. Also easy supports 4K output. Although I am not sure if USB C on Core M manages 60Hz.
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>>54136642
This video wasn't proving that macbooks were superior. This video was asking whether you can edit a 4k video on a 12" macbook or not.
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>>54139733
>One USB
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>>54143281
> but One Usb and fuck all else is cool
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>>54143554
Looks much worse than the Macbook in real life.
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>>54141893
>It blows FAT out of the fucking water.
My superfluous nipple blows FAT out of the water.
Now, NTFS is bad and only around for legacy reasons, but HFS is objectively the worst filesystem from the ground up.
HFS doesn't even have the basis of legacy to defend itself.
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>>54158634
And by answering that it proved they are superior
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>>54154678
hahahahahaha fuckkkk
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>>54145674

The fact is, I've absolutely never had a problem with it. Neither has anyone I know who uses a Mac. Sure, maybe it's not the best design possible, but for most (all) uses of a computer to a modern user, it's sufficient. It werkz as they say. I'd say /that's/ why it's lasted as long as it has.
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>>54135808
Apple hater here.
I don't defend it, just build a hac and have the best of both worlds.
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>>54158633
Fucking shill.
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>>54160470
http://www.welfareinfo.org/
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>>54160558
>replies this quick after a 2 hour old post
Yep, shill indeed.
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>>54160584
They rejected your application already?
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Netbooks ftw
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>>54136430
He shows his face is almost all of his videos. He just didn't in this one. His profile picture is his face you fucking faggot.
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>>54154959
>Even as a Windows laptop they're a fantastic option.
no, they are terrible as windows laptops
the only thing they are good for is running mac os
>>54137249
no, it's full blown retarded
the only good things about the macbook are the trackpad and the good battery life.
you get none of those in windows and it's going to run hot as fuck
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