You have 0.00000000001 years to tell me why you call GNU/Linux or GNU+Linux just Linux.
But I don't.
Out of habit, I guess
cause the are so cool caling a it gnu linux ... or gnu
Fuck GNU .... is Allways be Linux
>>54134745
GNU?
I don't, I just say GNU because almost no one knows the name of Windows' os MAC OS X's kernel, and because it is the correct name.
Simpler
More elegant
Everyone knows what I mean
And I am not autistic
I also fail to see the reason why we should damage the Linux brand by inserting some prepositions. How does the community benefits from it?
>>54134745
Because DOS/Windows 95 or DOS + Windows 95 really was not a thing... And neither was UNIX + "muh floppy disk full of programs". So the habit of using simple names for common things is a norm.
Because the OS is linux. Linux is linux, not its license.
>>54134845
by that logic you should go with >>54134827
>>54134745
but i do, especially in technical discussion and conversation. when talking with normies i use the distro name.
>>54134845
If you cared about the windows naming scheme you would call it just GNU.
>>54134888
explain, because no, by that logic he should not
>>54134845
Actually DOS means disk operating system, and MS-DOS means the operating system made by M$, which is and has always been called Windows, so by DOS/Windows 95 I believe you meant Windows 95/Windows 95, so you're wrong. Also Windows is botnet install jantoo :^).
Because it's its real name and the argument for "GNU/Linux" is weak and just a pretense really because the real reason Stallman wants you to call it GNU/Linux is just so he can piggyback on Linux' success and get some free advertising for his failed OS?
>>54134888
Not really because of the common usage dictates else>>54134947
>Actually DOS means disk operating system, and MS-DOS means the operating system made by M$, which is and has always been called Windows, so by DOS/Windows 95 I believe you meant Windows 95/Windows 95, so you're wrong. Also Windows is botnet install jantoo :^).
Sir you have bested me with your wits and I must clearly change my sinful ways. I must say, well done my jolly old chap!
>>54134971
oh, it's you again, how does it feel to run a OS made for routers?
The line needs to be drawn somewhere, why is it at GNU? When I say Linux, I'm talking about operating systems based on the Linux kernel. Not just GNU systems, not just non-GNU systems, Linux based systems.
>>54135045
Stallman talks about it
shockingly he decides to draw line right after he ads GNU
>Since a long name such as GNU/X11/Apache/Linux/TeX/Perl/Python/FreeCiv becomes absurd, at some point you will have to set a threshold and omit the names of the many other secondary contributions
Sane people draw it right after nice clean Linux
>>54134745
>You have 0.00000000001 years to tell me why you call GNU/Linux or GNU+Linux just Linux.
What if I call it Linux+GNU or Linux/GNU?
>>54135045
GNU was first, they wanted to make a Free as in freedom OS, they needed a kernel, which linus started. a lot of people hopped on the thorvalds bandwagon and made linux one of the biggest software projects of all time. there are reasons for both parts of the GNU/Linux name. in fact, calling it GNU/Linux or GNU + Linux is the most neutral way to call it. if i wanted all the fame to go to GNU i would call it just that.
It should be called just GNU really.
The kernel is a tiny and easily-replaceable part of the OS anyway, and can't do anything by itself.
GNU/Linux is just if you wanna be pedantic and specify which particular kernel you're using.
>>54135094
/g/ should start calling it FreeCiv/Linux
>>54135129
>>54135116
>wanted to make
should
would
could
want
What has GNU and stallman did for Linux lately
Its funny how you even call it "linus started" he is maintaining kernel still
stop being autistic and damaging the linux name for useless StallmanGNU which are fanatic political organization now and not technological
They wanted to make OS then they should have made it, now its too late for them
and we are left to deal with fanboys :(
>>54135176
they made an OS, since Linux uses the gpl there is nothing stopping them from making a deblobbed linux-libre, which they did.
it's not like Linux is the ultimate kernel and will last forever, monolithic kernel design can't last forever. even in MINIX3 gnu is used, but because tannenbaum started it as a whole OS and actually made a whole OS with a few others it will be called MINIX.
thorvalds on the other hand wanted to make an OS but never got past the kernel. a monolithic one at that.
>>54135252
So go play with their GNU OS and stop bothering Linux users
>>54134947
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>54135001
>quoting the text of a post with the smiley with a carat nose
>>54135252
This.
Linux is pretty much irrelevant and becoming obsolete.
It will soon be replaced anyway, and most people these days are already calling the OS just GNU and not even GNU/Linux even.
Aside from compiler
Do stallmanists believe that Linus would not be able to make all of the needed GNU utilities or make up a license? Linux first came at various licenses
I feel like faggots just keep saying "just kernel" when in fact thats the important part
>>54135313
GNUcucks are extremely deluded.
Linux is millions of lines of code bigger than the GNU userland.
Also the GNU userland can be and often is replaced by alternatives, including musl, tinybox, uclibc, etc.
Only pinko SJWs like RMS and Matthew Garrett defend this FSF bullshit.
>>54135355
>pinko
>le gommunism is bad maymay
Nice meme.
>SJW
So you're against justice? Interesting.
>muh code size
Your fault for going monolithic.
>muh replacements
Yeah, except GCC - which even the BSDs can't live without. Quite frankly, they should be called GNU too. GNU/FreeBSD, GNU/OpenBSD, etc.
>>54134880
>>54134745
I don't! I call it GNU slash Linux.
>>54135400
>took the bait
>>54135355
>Linux is millions of lines of code bigger than the GNU userland.
It's 90%*uninteresting drivers. Core Linux is tiny
bc linux apps are just jews who leeched from gnu master libraries
>>54135414
no u
>>54135424
>bc linux apps are just jews who leeched from gnu master libraries
The butthurt is strong with this one
>>54135421
>it's 90%*uninteresting drivers
Mostly stolen from BSD.
Should it be called BSD/GNU/Linux?
>>54134745
Because I'm not autistic
>>54135451
bc GNU is what linux system uses, goy
Out of habit, I will try to use GNU/Linux more often now. Thanks rms.
>>54135464
I'd rather call it BSD/GNU even if Linux is used but this way nobody would understand. also rms and the original BSD people where buddies. he convinced them to use a free license.
>>54135390
>saying "maymay"
kill yourself
>>54135643
>he convinced them to use a free license
This is what GNUcucks actually believe.
>>54134745
0.00000000001 years == 0.00031104000 seconds
Impossible
>>54136016
they didn't need a lot of convincing, but it is true.
Because its not ice cream + cone. Its just Ice Cream.
I wonder what people who unironically say GNU/Linux IRL are like. Has anybody ever met one?
>>54134745
How about LiGNUx?
>>54138384
This implies GNU is a part of Linux, which is not.
>>54134745
I don't call it that in normal language, but I do recognise that it is the official name for a distribution of the GNU OS running on the Linux kernel.
I actually think it is very big of Stallman to include the kernel name when he refers to his OS, it really gives Torvalds and all the contributors to Linux some credit. It's pretty unheard of, I mean you don't refer to OS X as OS X/XNU or Windows as Windows/NT or PC-BSD as PC-BSD/kFreeBSD.
>>54134745
How about GNUlix?
>>54137862
I am one, I'm pretty social actually. you wouldn't know i lurk here.
>>54138549
go eat some toe fluff rms
>>54135295
Hahaha sure buddy
>>54134745
It depends on the use case, really. When talking about distros I would usually just call them "Linux-systems" in the sense that they primarily depend on the Linux kernel, NOT the GNU system. On a technical level, the GNU components are """optional""".
However... when the context requires me to describe systems not in technical terms but terms of usage, I would talk about GNU systems because in my everyday life the kernel is absolutely irrelevant apart from being a technical necessity. It is not different from a standard protocol; it's only reason to exist is to be used for things far greater than itself, far more important.
>0.00000000001 years
That's 0.00031556926 seconds, I possibly couldn't do that.
>>54134845
DOS+Windows 3.X was a thing though, Win3.X was an actual application that ran within DOS. And I think the same was true of Win9.X as well, in that it depended on DOS, but Windows stated automatically so the user didn't really acknowledge that. And it's not a perfect comparison because DOS isn't a kernel, it's a command line OS in its own right.
I've never understood why stallman/FSF and linus don't sit down and come up with a brand new name/branding that will please them both
>>54139919
Because in the real world, you can use GNU/Linux and Linux and no one really cares. Only on /g/ is this a "thing"
Anyone who doesn't know this shit won't care what I call it, for one thing.
For another, anyone who knows this shit to the point that they'd care will know that "Linux" is in reference to GNU/Linux. It's the same reason, when I'm discussing music with someone, I don't say "heavy metal music" or "jazz music" repeatedly; I just say "heavy metal" and "jazz." No one on the planet is going to get confused.
So some pedants on a tech board dislike me not explicitly mentioning GNU every time. That's their problem, not mine. They can waste their time correcting me or pasting that "I'd just like to interject" thing for the millionth time. If it brings them some hollow satisfaction, good for them; never mind that I'll just ignore them and nothing will actually change.
>>54139941
stallman definitely cares
i'm not sure if linus cares
>>54135045
So you'd say Android tablets are running Linux?
>>54140006
They literally are, Android is built around the linux kernel.
>>54134745
Because they are just Linux variant of GNU. GNU is a full operating system with hurd or linux-libre
Linus himself says this is "justified" despite being ridiculous
>>54140006
of course they are
so are chromebooks
>>54140061
>linux is a variant of GNU
>implying you know what you're talking about
>>54140061
>Linux is just a variant of GNU
>>54134745
I'm a normie or tryhard normie, I often talk with normies and when I say "gnu" normies think about the animal and it confuses them
>>54140006
Please educate yourself: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/android-and-users-freedom.en.html
Rolls off the tongue better.
>he thinks Communism isn't bad
Gr8 b8
Dropped
>>54140121
>>54140136
What's wrong?
>>54140287
GNU and Linux aren't even the same type of thing. Linux is a kernel; GNU is a set of userland utilities. Either one can be used without the other.
>>54140349
GNU includes a kernel
>>54140378
Linux does not include a userland.
The fact that the GNU project has a kernel (a kernel that isn't Linux btw) doesn't make it a variant of Linux.
>>54140570
>Linux does not include a userland.
Agreed
>kernel that isn't Linux
Yes, it's a fork. Namely linux-libre. Or HURD
I've taken to calling my OS GNU. Hopefully it will catch on.
Because it's recursive. If Linux should be referred to as GNU + Linux, then GNU + Linux should be referred to as GNU + (GNU+Linux), which should, in turn, be referred to as GNU + (GNU+GNU+Linux), etc. I'm not going through all of that when someone asks what OS I use. Especially since I use Windows 7.
it just works
What the fuck why is Windows so shitty why does it have so much memory leak and why is it using all this memory nothing is open currently
I don't use the coreutils.
>>54138511
>Injecting code using text on the car.
Holy shit. Does that wipe the database?
